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[–]Reiker0 41ポイント42ポイント  (38子コメント)

We literally got a clue about how we need to solve puzzles using team work a couple days ago and the first thing people do is break off into their own private communities so they can share information only between themselves.

Disgraceful.

[–]Panzer_Girl 15ポイント16ポイント  (7子コメント)

We keep cracking jokes about the extent that they are watching us, but it makes me wonder.

Were they listening in on the Discord Chat? Did they know that it was all going back to fall apart, because communities were splitting?

Was it a warning all along?

[–]little-lion-sam 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Monsters come in many forms.

[–]TheZombi3z 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Discord monster confirmed, the only way to kill it is by using Teamspeak

[–]Ghosty53[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

For real, you just blew my head off!!

[–]DopeandDiamonds 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Wow. I didn't think about that. Timing is on point.

[–]thebuggalo 19ポイント20ポイント  (29子コメント)

I don't know how to feel. On the one hand, I hate not being able to contribute on ANY level anymore. It feels like I'm just watching this whole thing play out. This is less about coming up with theories and more about just waiting for information to be released. And now we have a group of people controlling the information they deem is worthy to know. I haven't seen ANY pictures of the locker, Paris bag, or phone. I saw it briefly on the twitch stream which I had to turn off because I found it extremely disappointing in the way it was being handled. I just really feel like everyone feels worthless and it's not a good feelings. It feels like there are teams now, and people forming an alliance to hold information to themselves. Yet they claim they aren't moderating or stopping anyone from participating. But then turn around and withhold information.

Now. On the other hand I can understand not wanting to fill up the voicemail of the phone number they have to call. They have a lead and don't want to ruin it. They are being cautious and I appreciate that.

But overall I just feel helpless and annoyed and feel like I'm just going to have to read about what came of this later on. Further is sets a dangerous precedent. What if the information they get from calling this number isn't shared because they want to investigate it first? Obvious the GameMasters could make it public eventually but the people who control the phone could now potentially control the ARG. That is a scary thought and really annoys me. I'm sure they have the best interests of the community in mind, but you never know.

[–]Reiker0 11ポイント12ポイント  (23子コメント)

As far as I can tell this group formed around the time the SIM started, you can probably even find a post of mine about week ago complaining about them withholding the sharing of config information to help others progress further in the sim. It was apparent that they were the ones who wanted to "solve" the SIM puzzle before anyone else. This is about the time it stopped becoming a community thing for me.

I can absolutely guarantee you that any further information from the phone call will be withheld from this subreddit and shared amongst their own private group. Something that was supposed to be fun for the community has been hijacked by people who want to be the first to "win." It's sad.

Hopefully the ones in charge see what's going on here and can calibrate the ARG to bring the community back in to it.

[–]Echo354 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's depressing. I also hope the game masters can make changes to make sure the whole community can be involved. They would have a vested interest in doing so, because the more people working on the ARG and coming up with theories and such, the more hype will be generated. If there really is as much info being withheld as you're saying, I expect the activity of the community on this to drop like a rock.

[–]JackJustice191 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Agreed. They didn't share any of their configs because, as they put it, they wanted to be the ones on the leaderboards in case there was some sort of giveaway at the end of all this.

I guess winning a T-shirt or something is more important to them than all of us participating.

[–]thebuggalo 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I thought the SIM was a lot of fun, but I do somewhat agree that there were clearly strategies and load outs not being shared too widely in the community. It's the only explanation as to why the leaderboard was filled with the same people.

I saw some great theories and I know the top players were active in here, so I don't blame them or anything. It just felt a little unachievable for anyone else to get involved or crack the 3 year mark.

I'm glad someone made it, and I'm glad the info got out. But the events around sharing the information of the end game of the SIM seem really really shady.

[–]Reiker0 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I tried to discuss optimal configs for the sim on this subreddit and I was told to join the Discord chat. It was very obvious from a week ago that they were not interested in working with the community.

[–]Mochalada 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I just want to butt in on this conversation and let you guys know that the person who finally beat the game was using stats that were posted in this subreddit by someone else. He said so in the discord chat, he had only tweaked things a tiny bit after the first go around. And the person who posted those stats used them as well and got their name on the board too. The information WAS available. It was about math, anyone could have done the math.

[–]ObFuSc8 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I'm not sure that anyone could have done the math - I will say that I've posted SIM supply usage rates & configs here, as have /u/willdroid8 & /u/cloverfield_gamer. And I've also posted the info at Unfiction. So it is available. (I'm not sure but think it was willdroid8's MAX Ration & mega-aid strategy the /u/the_magic_jesus based his config on.) The supply configs have been a moving target - especially over the last 2 days, with these closely spaced updates.

That said, doing well in the SIM isn't just about having the perfect supply config. There's luck & actual skill & strategy involved in when you schedule tasks, aid etc. the_magic_jesus first had to master rationing all the time while juggling aid & other jobs. He did that in under 24 hours & then had to adapt to the Research update. So regardless of "optimized" supply configs, that takes a level of skill & commitment.

I've never been on the Discord chat at all, so this isn't just a knee jerk reaction to defend them.

[–]shadowofahelicopter -1ポイント0ポイント  (14子コメント)

That's just false. The group has been around since before fun and pretty things. I know this because I frequented the chat when we got the employee of the month page but haven't been on it since the sim came out before tonight. The chat has always been a subsidiary of the subreddit since it was created and everyone has been welcome to join it. If you check the main theories sticky thread, the link to the chat has been in there since the employee of the month page came out. Everyone here has always been welcome to join it and it was always supposed to be the live chat version of this subreddit.

[–]Reiker0 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

Sure they may have been "around" but they weren't active and they didn't solve anything. So by my standards, nah, they weren't around.

And for the last time, no one cares that this chat exists, people care about that they've stepped up to moderate the game for everyone else.

[–]shadowofahelicopter 2ポイント3ポイント  (12子コメント)

Except that's the thing. The chat was meant to be a part of the subreddit, you're welcome to join the chat. The subreddit doesn't have to be the central hub of everything that's happening in this ARG. And actually they were active. We were working on things nonstop everyday for fun and pretty things. Literally for weeks before the sim came out.

[–]slushojamie 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

So what if you dont feel like joining the chat and try to follow too many Pages. I thought this was the main ARG page. Now were outsourcing to one specific subgroup. So we should all now join a second group also. Why cant we keep.stuff simple. Its kinda confusing shit for the people who sit in the background.

[–]shadowofahelicopter -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

No this is not the main ARG page nor does it have the right to be he main ARG page. Unfiction, IMDB, discord, and here are all active in this ARG. You don't have to follow everything though because everything gets posted everywhere eventually. Before this, unfiction and cloverfield clues had found leads that had to be cross posted here. You pick the place you like to follow, but there is no main place to follow the ARG.

[–]Reiker0 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

I literally just said no one cares about any of that, they care about the fact that information is being withheld from the community. THAT is the issue, not anything else. Why is that hard to understand?

[–]shadowofahelicopter 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

What information is being held from the community other than Howard's number, which there's a valid reason for that not to be public?

[–]Reiker0 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because in fact there is no valid reason to keep the number private.

[–]toonytoon180 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

What "valid" reason is that?

[–]shadowofahelicopter -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Clogging up the voicemail with crap! Someone on the ARG has to go through the voicemail for that number so why fill it up with crap.

[–]dchrisd 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree this whole thing is being handled weird, and I didn't like the Twitch stream at all but the pictures of the locker contents were released at least an hour before you made your post.

It's one of the edits: https://www.reddit.com/r/10cloverfieldlane/comments/47sax1/the_next_clue/

[–]thebuggalo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks!! Last I had checked that thread it wasn't posted. Thanks for letting me know it was updated.

[–]Echo354 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I really, really hope the game masters won't let someone completely derail the ARG. If they intended the number to be shared with everyone playing (which I think is very likely!), I hope they will find another way to get it to us.

[–]thebuggalo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If nothing else they GameMasters have clearly been watching the communities and adjusting to our theories accordingly.

I have no doubt they are aware of the issues going on right now and will make things right. If they want us all to have the number they will post it on FAPT.

If new information comes from the phone and is withheld I'm sure they will realize very soon and find way to get us the info.

[–]Ghosty53[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

For real, I'd hope people wouldn't do that just given how awesome everyone on this Sub has been. Reading most people's comments, they were so pleasant I wasn't even sure I was on the right Internet lol.

But I'd guess BR would kinda be to blame as well. We shall see what happens AND THIS MOVIE BETTER NOT SUCK!!