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[–]MoederPoeder─╤╦︻[M] [スコア非表示] stickied comment (1子コメント)

Let's just enjoy the music, people.

[–]peduxe 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is impressive, don't know what influence Vincent (if he has) has on the tracks but it's such a unique good style.

[–]burnzkid 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I thought this shit was lit before I even read the comments and learned that it was a girl. Y'all are trippin. Its music, listen to it and chill.

[–]rh0p 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like it. I don't think it sounds that much like Vincent and that is totally a song that Nest HQ would premiere.

[–]boomboxcartel 14ポイント15ポイント  (13子コメント)

Everyone in this thread is a misogynistic fuck. She's a super talented producer so yall better start giving credit where it's due and stop patronizing women as incapable of producing dope ass electronic music.

[–]DubzMC 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

thank you god damn this shit always happens when anything about her gets posted here

[–]hk_beast 5ポイント6ポイント  (10子コメント)

Who the fuck is patronizing women. My favorite artist is Alison wonderland rn but this chick is definitely not creative as an artist. She definitely puts her gender out there to get clicks on her songs unlike Alison wonderland did when she was starting out. Stop fucking defending her because she's a girl. Her music is not that great compared to other bedroom producers. There are GREAT female artists i.e. Anna lunoe, Alison wonderland, mija (more of a great dj) , tokimonsta, j phlip. Fuck r/trap and their fucking dick comparing complex when it comes to cray. "Who can defend her the best" bullshit is dumb af for real. Her shit is mediocre and if it weren't for Vincent she would have 300 followers on soundcloud. Come on

[–]wififorever 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

don't let me crush you but AW doesn't produce her shit whereas people like Odesza do (check the number of producers on both albums - AWs album has 4+ whereas ODESZA has 1)

More so, Mija wouldn't be famous without Skrillex, AW wouldn't be popular without a major deal, majority of people start with a mentor.

not defending CRAY fyi just showing you another side.

[–]brosephd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mija def is a byproduct of skrillex. Her track selection ain't bad but sometimes her mixing can be questionable. VenessaMichaels surprised me as a good dj when she opened a show one time. I had to google her name and it came up a pornstar if you spelled it Vanessa Michaels lol.

[–]xTrill 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Who the fuck is patronizing women.

Alison Wonderland doesn't "put her gender out there" as much because she has a great record deal & the majority of shit she genuinely produces alone is bland as fuck like that WDYM remix. Anna Lunoe is great, no argument there. I know from various producers that Mija can barely produce a tune herself so kinda stupid to put her in there. Other 2 are fine, yeah.

But this thread is so hypocritical lmao. Is it because "SHE SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE VINCENT" or because "her shit is mediocre"?

[–]LettuceTurnip 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a "blind" fan of Mija, you're on point and it makes me sad. Why can't she drop an original tune that goes hard as fuck? The world may never know.

[–]hk_beast 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I say her stuff is mediocre.

https://soundcloud.com/craysounds/alive

https://soundcloud.com/craysounds/by-your-side-cray-remix

https://soundcloud.com/craysounds/bbhmp

AND https://soundcloud.com/craysounds/fortune https://soundcloud.com/craysounds/1up are the same exact percussion kit

Come on don't stand there saying shes producing "dope ass" electronic music. Power to her for chasing her dreams but I cannot agree with anyones opinion saying she produces dope music. AW works with other artists for sure but majority of the bigger names do. Doesn't subtract from the fact that their tracks are their ideas and creativity. You can hear an AW track and can link WDYM remix with her other stuff on her album. Mija is a god behind decks but her songs are pretty lack luster, I shouldn't have named her.

There are definitely those who are patronizing Cray but I'm looking at it from an equal light. She's mediocre compared to other bedroom producers out there and if you want to bring up her gender she is mediocre compared to the other girls doing it (gender shouldn't even be brought up when judging ones music). All im saying is, if this was a guy I'm 99% positive /r/trap would agree their stuff is mediocre.

[–]xTrill 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Come on don't stand there saying shes producing "dope ass" electronic music.

Come on, you can't be for real? It's all down to musical taste / opinions. This is one of my fav songs rn and sounds like a slightly better version of 1UP so I'm personally loving what she's doing. Again, I'm sure some people here hate SOPHIE, but I absolutely love what he's doing and would lean towards saying he produces "dope ass electronic music". Still, just my opinion.

if this was a guy I'm 99% positive /r/trap would agree their stuff is mediocre.

That's totally subjective. The majority of this sub has been really behind the whole minimal / weird percussion trap movement for a while now and if there was never any of this stupid "vincent produces for her" or "shes only got attention because of her gender" then I'm sure she'd fit in there quite nicely. Eh.

[–]hk_beast 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I wouldn't say Cray is anywhere close to reaching SOPHIE level though. SOPHIE is dope because he has a niche that no other artist really can copy. He knows different is what keeps real fans and doesn't throw super saws to make future bass drops because it's hot rn. 1UP is the one song that impressed me back then because it was her first song and I was in love with that losco,carmack shit. If you told me she'd make 2 other songs with the same 808 and percussion I'd be sad. I'm probably trippin hard and sorry if I stepped on shoes. Just got strong feelings against calling certain artists creative and their tracks unique. Also when people think their music is on the same envelope pushing lvel as artists like djemba, baauer, mura masa, ookay, GTA, nghtmre, dj snake, flume, in their respective genres. I know its unfair to compare but on a smaller scale, Im sure there are dope artist like the one you pointed out that are doing it different and better instead of playing it safe. Even those PC music guys and LuckyMe fam are trying to constantly make new shit. I seriously do not fuck with A LOT of their stuff but that one or two a semester that really are "wow this has never been done before" good are, to me, what makes a good artist.

[–]xTrill 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I love SOPHIE and wasn't trying to compare them. Was just using that, as not long ago, enjoying SOPHIE was against the "wtf is this" circlejerk and now he's pretty much blown up, producing for Charli XCX and all, it's the norm.

Just got strong feelings against calling certain artists creative and their tracks unique. Also when people think their music is on the same envelope pushing lvel as artists like djemba, baauer, mura masa, ookay, GTA, nghtmre, dj snake, in their respective genres.

Okay. Now see, for me, NGHTMRE is hugely overrated and I'd prefer listening to Vincent tracks and CRAY esque stuff any day of the week; If I said this in a NGHTMRE thread, (probably this one too now that I think of it) I'd get downvoted to oblivion as it's against the hive mind. What I'm getting at, is that it's all just down to personal preference. I also haven't seen CRAY, Vincent or anyone in this thread call their tracks unique? I'd say that Vincent is rather creative and CRAY is getting there, but that's just me. Then again, I'm not the sort of person to hang around for an artists 1 super unique song, but to try to stick with a style I'm enjoying at that time and listen to various artists / labels etc.

[–]hk_beast 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah lotta people jumping on SOPHIE. I admit I'm being hugely biased because I don't like that percussive wood block trap that Cray does or future bass really like this new Cray song and a lot of Vincents new stuff is. It's all good though different strokes for different blokes. I eat up nghtmre tracks like fired up and street all day so I can see the tables being flipped here.

[–]xTrill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hah, funnily enough Fired Up and Street are like the only two I thoroughly enjoy, along with the unreleased LOUDPVCK collab but that uses Virtual Riot samples so I won't get into that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–]yungjoc911 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

i'm so sick of people saying it's because shes a woman. It's because SHE SOUNDS EXACTLY LIKE VINCENT.

[–]swat24 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Out of true curiosity, is she riding off of vincents wave? I just dont understand how in 8 tracks she has a nest hq premiere. Doesnt make sense to me compared to others on sc.

Edit Plz dont attack me for being a "misogynistic fuck". I just want love for others like Fluxxy who have been it in for much longer.

[–]jipperr 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

i think the nest premiere has more to do with being a girl

[–]wififorever 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

she has the same management team that he has so I don't think it has to do with him..?

[–]spacemana 0ポイント1ポイント  (14子コメント)

i love this new Vincent song!1!111

[–]peduxe 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

cut some slate...

[–]spacemana 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

because it's some attractive white girl from LA? if this was a guy being ghost produced you'd all be bitching him out complaining that the authenticity of trap music has died etc etc yada yada but nooooooo cute girl from LA it's all chill bro!

[–]MintLobster 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

Yeah right. Half of these guys are being ghost produced from Diplo to Major Lazer to Borgore to Carnage to Tiesto to Calvin Harris. So many more to be named, yet nobody bats an eye. Every single time something by a female DJ gets posted on this sub people point out the fact that it's probably ghost-produced. The unruly male bravado that this sort of music attracts is bewildering. I think everybody should read this short article by Bjork (a female musician) just to get a little insight on the benevolent criticism they get from men over their music. I'm not saying CRAY doesn't produce her own music, but the fact that you feel entitled to call her out because she's a woman is misogynistic in every sense.

[–]spacemana -5ポイント-4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I understand where you're coming from and believe me when I say I am disgusted about gender inequality in the music industry but Cray reinforces that, getting others to produce her music because she knows she's attractive and can "get big" with her looks, if anyone is misogynistic, it's her.

[–]MintLobster 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not buying it. If her boyfriend is a producer/DJ that travels the world, why is it such a bad idea for her to try and do the same. She has a friend and most importantly a mentor who can oversee everything she does, you really think she's incapable of making music? So what, she's cute. A lot of girls are. Mija is. Alison Wonderland is. That doesn't mean you can discredit them for their accomplishments and call them misogynistic for being pretty, it's beyond their control. Whether it's a marketing scheme or not, it doesn't matter. It's good music and that's that. Is Alison Wonderland reinforcing that sort of behavior by asking Djemba Djemba and others to help produce her album?

[–]spacemana -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I could out Cray right now if I wanted to, I have all the proof I need and I'm friends with the people who make her music but I'm not about that life and I don't want to bring other people into it. I completely get what you're saying tho, there's a ton of dope amazing Genuine female artists out there, Tokimonsta for example, Imogen Heap as well but Cheney has seen an obvious social flux of guys wanking over mediocre music that's fronted by a cute girl and she's straight up exploited that for her own benefit. At the same time though, I can't really blame her haha 😂

[–]xTrill 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck outta here with your bullshit.

[–]ninjabubbles3 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well its not a bad song, and her other stuff on SC isn't bad either. There are many artists of a a higher caliber and they dont have a Nest HQ premiere. Then again having a famous BF might help a lot

[–]hk_beast -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wtf the other songs on sc sound like everything else out there. Especially the first 3-4. People are fuckinng tripping saying she's good. Stop this white knight attitude bruh fake ass dudes on the internet

[–]CellarDoorVoid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

CRAY has been putting out great songs for a while

[–]lnikka -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

yeah exactly. if it wasn't about her being an attractive girl she wouldn't market it that way by putting photos of her on every single track image and playing up this "quirky" personality.

[–]crunchsmash -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

She's got a pretty shitty name if you're looking at it from a marketing viewpoint. The only thing that comes up on google is lobster traps when you search her name.

[–]yungjoc911 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

no that's not why, it's because it sounds like exactly him.