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Does anyone carry concealed when running? (self.running)

Jailescape が 投稿

GF and I are wanting to start running but due to my work schedule most of our running will be after 9PM. I do live in a fairly nice area, but would still prefer to carry a firearm concealed while doing so.

Does anyone have any tips about this?

Edit: As /u/aewillia said, this turned into a shit show. I did state I would prefer to carry not that I 100% was going to. I was looking to see if anyone in this sub already carried while running or if anyone knew someone that did. If I did choose to carry it would be for if the shit hits the fan I am properly able to defend myself and my loved ones.

I carry about 90% of the time while I am out of the house. I have never actually had to use my firearm, but I am trained and capable of doing so if needed.

All I was simply asking was if anyone has or does carry while running.

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[–]aewillia 30ポイント31ポイント  (22子コメント)

This thread is probably going to turn into a shitshow. /r/running is pretty anti-CC. I would look for advice elsewhere.

[–]ChickenSedan 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not anti-CC. It's anti-carry-around-bulky-shit-that-kills-people. Personal beliefs aside, I just can't fathom the logistics of carrying a gun while running.

And if you ask this advice in some pro-gun forum, you're going to get the "you need to be packing all the time" circlejerk from people that don't even run.

[–]aewillia 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, if you ask for advice for carrying while running on a CHL forum, they usually give you advice on how to run with a concealed handgun. I've looked before. People make holsters and all sorts of getups specifically designed to keep a handgun secure while running, actually.

[–]BenDarDunDat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Logistics-schmogistics

[–]Planzorg1 5ポイント6ポイント  (16子コメント)

Why are people so against it here? We are constantly talking about people feeling unsafe or the danger women runners have to deal with, I would think that a way of feeling safe would be encouraged

[–]NovemberWednesday 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because many people believe that permissive gun laws do not lead to safety but rather the opposite.

[–]hulking_menace -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

That debate seems best suited for other forums, as it has nothing to do with running.

[–]eflowb 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well judging by the other thread about women being harassed/feeling unsafe, the majority of the awful things happening to women/girls is happening when they are not running. So I guess maybe people should just be strapped at all times?

[–]philipwhiuk -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

What happens if you carry a gun is that gun gets used against you. This is borne out in all the statistics on robbery and assault.

[–]stevo_of_schnitzel 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, this is the inverse of the "concealed carriers are less likely to be victims of violent crime." Both are completely anecdotal because the huge majority of defensive gun use goes undocumented.

[–]JasperAndJinx 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Have you ever been in a situation where you wanted to use a gun while out running?

[–]YourShoesUntied 38ポイント39ポイント  (3子コメント)

Every day! That's why I don't run with one. lol

[–]JasperAndJinx 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nice one! I walked right in to that.

[–]Iunius_Faber 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could be worse. Could have ran into it.

[–]OldGilGunderson 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate slow pedestrians too.

[–]Planzorg1 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, absolutely. I run in an area that has a large amount of homeless, and while the vast majority of them are just in a bad situation, there are a few crazies who I would much rather not have to get stabbed by

[–]cousinbebop 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just a logistics question - where would you put it during the run? Sometimes I can't fit my keys into my runners belt. Where would I put the Uzi?

[–]Planzorg1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hyperbole aside, this very thread was made to answer the question of how to carry a reasonably sized weapon. We could all get an answer if anything besides derision was launched at OP.

[–]BenDarDunDat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm against it because I've already had a dog walker to draw on me because I scared him .... while running on a public trail.

I held my hands up and squeaked, "Just running." I did not get killed, but it was far closer than it ever should have been while on a public trail in broad daylight.

Come on...how many times have you scared the shit out of someone who is off in la-la land. Do you want them all to have a gun? If you are so scared and paranoid you think you need a gun, I'm sorry, but the rest of us a much better off without you having one.

[–]Jailescape[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I see what you mean. Some decent responses. It's not even about me 100% going to be carrying, more if I choose to, I wanted to know how it could be done.

[–]hulking_menace 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good luck. I've been trying to figure it out for years and come up empty. Really the only comfortable way to run with a gun is to hold it in your hand, which is unworkable for all kinds of obvious reasons.

[–]a1ien51 48ポイント49ポイント  (6子コメント)

Maybe you should stick to a treadmill in your locked house.

[–]Oh_My_My_My 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the person feels the need to wear a CC when running outside, they will probably want to wear one when running on a treadmill in their house haha

[–]RedKryptonite 18ポイント19ポイント  (4子コメント)

They also need a moat full of alligators to feel truly safe.

[–]JKrusas 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

The alligators should have knives for teeth

[–]YourShoesUntied 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

The alligators should have BuckTM knives for teeth

FTFY

[–]mattack73 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

and lasers strapped to their heads.

[–]RedKryptonite 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a good call. If I learned anything from the Atari 2600 game Pitfall, it's that alligators are no match for a correctly timed jump.

[–]K_S_U 19ポイント20ポイント  (17子コメント)

Answer: There is a little .22 cal pistol that has a clip holster that would fit on running shorts fairly nice. I can't remember the name of the manufacturer.

My two cents: Personally I wouldn't go into a situation where I felt I needed a gun for safety. If you feel that threatened with two people together, then you should buy a treadmill. I am a former police officer.

[–]mini_apple 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

A clip hooked onto an elastic waistband? I'm having flashbacks to trying to wear sweatpants with a circa-2005 flip phone clipped onto my pocket.

Spoiler: My pants fell down. It was sexy.

[–]K_S_U 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ha. That is funny. This gun is light enough I don't think it would be a problem. Again, I would go back to my point of why would you go into a situation where you felt you needed a gun in the first place?

[–]hulking_menace -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This gun is light enough I don't think it would be a problem.

Sounds like a piece of junk, then.

[–]ChickenSedan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just think, if it was a gun, you'd go all Plaxico Burress on yourself.

[–]itsmyotherface 7ポイント8ポイント  (9子コメント)

And how realistic is it that someone (presumably not LEO/millitary, who would have had training in maneuvers like this) could un holster the gun, remove the safety, chamber a round, aim and fire at least some of which while running/slowing down? Probably with sweaty hands to boot.

[–]OldGilGunderson 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

There might be a couple biathletes on this sub.

[–]itsmyotherface 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those are rifles though. While other animal, IMO.

[–]stevo_of_schnitzel 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does one get into that by the way? I just moved to a really snowy part of the country.

[–]itsmyotherface 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It looks like there are clubs.

[–]K_S_U 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

You bring up great points, other than a round would most likely be chambered. It takes a lot of repetitive practice before it would become natural to use a gun in a threat situation. Most people don't have that kind of time.

[–]itsmyotherface 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm just a novice shooter, but I've been taught never to walk around with a round chambered, fwiw.

[–]K_S_U 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get that. "If" I choose to carry, and I have the ability to in Kansas, I would carry with it chambered.

Hopefully I don't get a brazillion downvotes if people think I am advocating for carrying a weapon. My first choice is to be safe. If I feel that I need to carry a gun then it obviously isn't safe. I wouldn't run in those conditions.

[–]OldGilGunderson 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah but what about running?

[–]itsmyotherface 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never came up as ranges generally discourage running.

[–]howibityourmother 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I imagine that a gun clipped to the back of running shorts would bounce around more than a kangaroo on cocaine.

I mean, smartphones clipped to shorts bounce around a fair bit and surely they aren't nearly as heavy as a firearm.

[–]K_S_U 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This one is like two bic lighters taped together. It is pretty stable when moving. The holster/clip would hold it tight on a waistband.

[–]Jailescape[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not that I would feel threatened, it's more so if I choose to carry, then I know how I could. If I choose to, it would be my Ruger .380 LCP that I would carry.

[–]mini_apple 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm actually curious about this, not from a self-defense standpoint, but from a "concealed" standpoint. I mean, where would you even put it? Do they make flow-y running gauchos where you can stow a piece? I guess you could run in a hoodie, but depending on where you run, doesn't that just make you a target for... well, everyone?

And goodness, the chafing. How much Body Glide would you need to slather on a holster to make it not leave welts?

This question has me mesmerized.

[–]cousinbebop 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was just asking the same thing. I guess the obvious thing is you strap it to your head like a go pro and activate it via bluetooth.

[–]freedomweasel -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can get pretty darn small handguns. For running, some folks use something similar to one of those spibelt things.

[–]freedomweasel 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would check in /r/guns or /r/ccw

[–]cousinbebop 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

You live in a nice area but you want to run with a gun? Are you mad?!

[–]BenDarDunDat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It may be a nice neighborhood, but you never know when you could meet a crazy paranoid! Every person I meet, I wonder...could this be the lunatic who wants to kill me and my family?

[–]BIGDICKDRAYMOND 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

You'd run faster with a knife.

[–]cousinbebop 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, I would love to see my mile splits if someone chased me with a knife.

[–]stevo_of_schnitzel 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey, OP, sorry people are being condescending. It is weird to be prepared for dangerous eventualities, but that doesn't mean it's a bad idea. I have a full first aid bag, E-tool, parka, gas can, road flares, snow shoes and pistol in my car. I'll prolly never use any of it. I also occasionally carry when I run. Springfield XD subcompact in 45. You will come to resent it, and I guarantee you will eventually run without it. Running becomes more enjoyable when you carry fewer things, and it's completely worth the negligible risk. When you do carry, use this.

http://www.pistolwear.com/pt-one-concealment-holster/

[–]Jailescape[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're similar to me in regards to what you carry in your car. If I choose to carry it would a Ruger .380 LCP so fairly compact and lightweight.

It's more if I do want to carry or if it will just be a nuisance.

[–]runwichi 8ポイント9ポイント  (2子コメント)

Kind of a shame with the amount of opinion and mis-information present, but yes you could feasibly run with a firearm. You'll need to make some decisions about caliber and ultimately weight as it will have a huge effect on whether or not it's something you even want to consider because there's just no free lunch. If you want a high power factor in a light package, you're not going to want to shoot it. If you have a high power factor in a duty weight firearm, you're not going to want to run with it (far). If you want a low power factor firearm, what's the point of carrying it at all? So ultimately, you need to decide what you're comfortable with and accept all the short comings of the platform.

The other half of the issue, the holster. Belly bands work okay, but they're hot. Belts bounce too much IMO. I've read good opinions on the Hill People Gear Runner / Snubby Kit bags in terms of access/containment/comfort, but to me it's more of a off trail kit than a city kit and screams "hidden gun". Your opinion may vary.

Getting back to the root of the issue, though - I routinely run late at night through "questionable areas" and the one thing I really wish I had on me is not a firearm, but rather 5 times the amount of flashing LED's that are on my reflective vest to make every vehicle in ten miles know exactly where I am. I'm more worried about vehicles than shady characters.

Just my opinion.

(Edited in case anyone misconstrued my quotations, it was not in regards to people, but rather areas that could be considered questionable - I changed the wording to reflect that)

[–]Jailescape[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I already have the firearm (I have 7 different firearms) that I would choose to run with if I decide on that.

I appreciate your input as one of the few people who actually tried to answer the question (if not the only one).

[–]stevo_of_schnitzel 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Geez, guys. Downvote the only guy who makes an effort to answer OPs question.

[–]eflowb 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shit like this is just odd to me. Why is that everyone is so afraid to go for a run at X time or in X place etc... I just dont get it. Yes, there are random events where some bad shit happens to a runner, but you all realize bad things can happen to you even if you aren't running right? Like, what is it about running that makes some people so insecure or is it that you are insecure but also want to run? Help me understand.

[–]Jailescape[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not that I am necessarily "afraid" to run at any given time, my GF is slightly more worried than I am after a few tires being stolen in the complex.

I carry 90% when I am out of the house, more as a just in case. If something is going to happen, I want to be able to properly defend myself and my family.

[–]heidavey 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

Lol, America, bits of you are funny...

...and terrifying.

[–]tdammers 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

This part is more of the terrifying kind though.

[–]Jailescape[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

What's terrifying about it? If we met in public, you wouldn't even know I had a firearm on me. I carry it everyday & yet it has never shot a person before.

[–]tdammers 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The terrifying part is that some people are so scared of their fellow citizens that they consider it necessary to carry a lethal weapon, and that even more people consider this perfectly normal.

[–]philipwhiuk 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

What's terrifying about it? If we met in public, you wouldn't even know I had a firearm on me

I find concealed carry feels more dangerous to me.

At least I can actively avoid people who make it obvious, rather than be freaked the fuck out halfway in.

[–]Jailescape[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Halfway into what?

I find open carry to be more dangerous as in my state (CO) anyone can buy a gun & carry it openly. At least with concealed, you have to go to a safety class & get a permit from the state.

[–]philipwhiuk 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Halfway into what?

The conversation

anyone can buy a gun

Yeah well that's the problem with that, not how you're displaying your thousand feet per second weapon.

[–]aewillia 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Most people who are concealed carrying actively avoid letting strangers know that they're carrying. They're not just going to bring it up in conversation at the checkout line in the grocery store.

The point of him emphasizing the concealed aspect is that the permit required to conceal a weapon requires you to sit in a class where (presumably; I don't know exactly what curriculum CO's CHL classes follow) they have you captive in a room for 6+ hours so that they can impress upon you how important it is to remember that it's a goddamn deadly weapon and that you should pretty much never use it.

I've taken all of my classes and tests for my CHL and I'm waiting on my state to issue my license to carry right now. The holdup is due to the fact that they run a full background check on everyone that applies. I'm not really planning on carrying, I just want the option to be able to.

I have a deep respect for human life and understand the implications of the decision to carry a weapon. I understand that if I were to ever use it, I wouldn't just be taking someone's life, I'd be taking any future they have and any chance they have to rehabilitate themselves. I'd be taking away their children and grandchildren. I would never even contemplate pulling my weapon on someone if they were just trying to rob me. Nothing I could ever own is worth risking killing someone for, because every human life has potential and value. I have no delusions that a) I would ever actually be part of a mass shooting situation or b) I would be the hero to stop such a thing were it to ever actually happen. My focus is on getting the fuck out of there if that happens. And while I hold all of those beliefs on my own, all of that stuff is part of the curriculum that Texas teaches for you to get a license to carry any handgun in public, concealed or otherwise.

I'm sure none of this changes your mind about how dangerous concealed carrying is, but I like to try to introduce a point of view that contradicts the stereotype that people who are interested in carrying a handgun in public are all insane, trigger-happy sociopaths.

[–]sharkilepsy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've sat in classes for way more than six hours on topics I don't remember fuck all about, so no, it doesn't make me feel better that you had to sit in a room for 6 hours...

[–]aewillia -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guess the rest of the comment wasn't worth addressing?

[–]wowGUdquestion 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

My wife carries a small pocket cannon for protection.

[–]Jzig_g 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have a tough time envisioning any setup that wouldn't be extremely uncomfortable after a short period of time aside from stowing a gun in a camelbak or similar backpack.

In that case you'd be looking at some difficulty getting to the gun if you needed it.

[–]Oh_My_My_My 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a joke....right?

[–]room317 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't do that.

[–]JasperAndJinx 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I can only suggest that you move to an even nicer area.

[–]Jailescape[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, Beverly Hills is a pretty nice area and shit happens there too.

[–]BillTheBestRunner 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

CCW is bullshit. But if it makes you feel better why not?

[–]Jailescape[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why is CCW bullshit? It gives you a feeling of safety (as long as you're comfortable with firearms) and no one knows you have anything so no confrontation about it.

[–]monk3yboy305 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not everyone is a responsible gun owner. I'd feel safer if I knew I was interacting with someone that can kill me at ease.

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    [–]YourShoesUntied 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I am not a runner myself...

    Why are you in the running sub? lol

    Not that it's restricted to only runners, but what series of events lead you to this point?

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      [–]YourShoesUntied 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ok I was super curious how you found your way in there since it's not often someone shows up who doesn't run. Just thought it was funny.

      [–]philipwhiuk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Lets be honest, going purely on first impressions you have quite the username.

      [–]cousinbebop 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Sound advice though.

      [–]YourShoesUntied 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I wasn't knocking the guy/girl...just curious how they found themselves here.

      [–]cousinbebop 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Ha! I was being sarcastic myself. Perhaps they thought it was a thread for the hit Pharcyde song of the same name?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hZKN4AZ63g

      [–]BenDarDunDat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Just carry a buck knife, toilet plunger, gel, garmin, iPhone, and a audible copy of Born to Run like every other runner and you will be covered for any eventuality no matter what the sort of shit hits the fan.

      [–]MonkeyManDan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      There is a dick joke in here somewhere.

      [–]Macatron -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It's reasons like this that I am genuinely scared to go to the USA.

      [–]Pachanga496 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Workplace shooting in Kansas leaves several people dead, including gunman http://gu.com/p/4h4cv?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

      [–]shortfox -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Somewhat related, I can see why this guy would look better concealing his guns http://m.shutterstock.com/images/199094213

      [–]OldGilGunderson -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

      By the sounds of this post just buy a gun and start running/skiing around with it.

      [–]Pachanga496 -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Fucking hell. Only in Anerica ....

      [–]zeebrow -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I carry a wallet size photo of Bernie Sanders when I run, so if my dick happens to graze the inside of my pants, I can find a bush or tree and whip out. I guess you could say it comes in handy.