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[–]Behold all these lives for the taking!ThatOnePerson [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

I'm just enjoying all the posts making it to front of /r/all, can we get this one there too?

[–]WTHelvetica [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Holy shit, you're right, top 2 posts.

[–]Behold all these lives for the taking!ThatOnePerson [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

[–]Mech9k [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

WTF mods?

This doesn't help at all.

[–]Boxxi [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It's all the brilliant idea of idiot /u/leafeator I surmise.

[–]Murranji [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not necessarily. If you listened to his interview on Defence of the Patience leafeator was actually one of the mods who was opposed to deleting the mafiaLAN information thread while the other mods supported it. If he's doing this it's because all the other mods have gotten together and said to do it.

[–]Murranji [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I counted at least 4 on the front of r/all a few minutes back. Seems like at least one of the threads has been hidden/deleted because I know I upvoted it.

[–]TriangularTables [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Christ when the Dota community gets angry, all will know.

[–]http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198039475565/MrTheodore [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

we got 3 now, used to be 4 before some posts got removed and linked here.

[–]chaveescovado [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Visiting from r/all.

Can someone ELI5 what's going on?

[–]Behold all these lives for the taking!ThatOnePerson [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Well there's a Dota 2 tournament going on right now which is supposed to be big, 3$ million prize pool.

Production value has been terrible, delays and stuff, and suddenly we learn that the host that everyone/twitch.tv loves has been fired.

Tune in http://www.twitch.tv/dotamajor to see twitch chat for example

[–]chaveescovado [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Why was the host fired?

[–]Behold all these lives for the taking!ThatOnePerson [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

No proper statement yet.

[–]chaveescovado [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the quick explanation!

grabs popcorn

[–]Sleepykins958 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Presumably for being too much like himself. AKA enjoyably "unprofessional"

[–]DOTA USED TO BE A GAME FOR WESTERN PEOPLE :(bananaBombst3r [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So there's a kinda big DotA tournament right now, hosted by a company named Perfect World in China. The problem is that everything that could go wrong did. Bad quality, long pauses/delays, and on top of that the only person who could entertain people during the long-ass pauses and delays got fired mid-game. So there's that

[–]ergertzergertz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Currently, there is a Dota 2 tournament going on in China. Organization hosting it decided to invite James "2GD" Harding as a host of the event. However, after 1 day of hosting, Valve(company making the Dota 2) decided to remove James as the host for reasons unknown to us.

[–]My beloved waifu, resting in trash tierYuri_VH [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The Shanghai Major's host (?) was suddenly removed from the event after 1 day because of him trying to entertain the viewers due to delays and now r/DotA2 is in flames and is spreading out to r/all

[–]Onstriker [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

JAMES, PLEASE STREAM THE MAJOR! I WILL 110% WATCH YOUR STREAM OVER VALVE'S SHITSHOW

[–]DAVAI DAVAI WHAT THE FUCK DAVAIYouGotDoddified [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

If the stream got good exposure and he invited a few people who weren't invited to cast the Major (Maelk, Purge etc) I would be happy to watch it for the rest of the tournament

[–]Evernight27 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He said on stream that he was sad Maelk wasn't there. He said Maelk was invited but turned it down when he saw the casting roster because it was to much of a sausage fest.

[–]Bomcash [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Honestly this.

If 2GD streamed from a shitty laptop with a shitty mic, a lot of people would switch from the main stream to his. I personally switched to Lyricals stream to not endorse Valve atm.

[–]@leafeatorleafeator[S] [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Something something Thorin and Lewis.

RIP all the comment karma that was lost today.

[–]Sleepykins958 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Oh James just has to be unfunny and choke someone and they'll bring him back.

[–]My beloved waifu, resting in trash tierYuri_VH [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As if millions of karma cried out and were suddenly silenced..

Ty PW for the top notch tournament value and the 1 hour delays. Must be thinking of their Western viewers Kappa

[–]bzzzzztTraece [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Sorry about your phone battery, Leafeator. It'll be missed. o7

[–]@leafeatorleafeator[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz buzz

[–]marshall02 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

https://twitter.com/PaulChaloner/status/703143583981789187

Trying to replace host midst tournament ? Seems Like Perfect World

[–]Artour #BleedBluelethalitykd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Major major respect to redeye. Fuck you PW & Valve

[–]TweetsInCommentsBot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

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2016-02-26 09:04 UTC

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[–]frostivusiscancelled [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't think he was asked. I'm assuming he was just showing some solidarity and distancing himself from the tournament.

[–]teeheeshishamo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

it looks like chobra will replacing yames for the rest of event..

[–]Don't lose your wayyyyyimperfek [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

they will prob just use sheveer for the rest of the tourny

[–]DAVAI DAVAI WHAT THE FUCK DAVAIYouGotDoddified [スコア非表示]  (18子コメント)

What is the best, most effective and productive thing the community can do about this? I'm not talking about spamming Metacritic or harassing Volvo/Obama - I'm serious, how do we let them know that we're legitimately not happy with this decision?

[–]TriangularTables [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I think Valve knows. Unless they are all asleep right now.

[–]artonico [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Well, it IS kinda midnight over in US

[–]Mech9k [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well if Valve made the decision, then someone of import is up.

[–]FrenziedMan [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Don't watch the major.

[–]Bomcash [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well - watch someone who is not getting a paycheck from Valve casting the major instead. I switched to Lyrical for example.

[–]jingo04 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Write a politely email to valve expressing what you liked about James at the major and what you feel about the major now he is gone.

[–]SirBelvedere [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How do we let them know that we're legitimately not happy with this decision?

Valve knows. They did it anyway. Clearly they had their reasons that were stronger. Now what are those reasons? We may never know.

Bruno and 2GD are close friends especially. If something like this came by to happen, then clearly there was some shit that was not unresolvable there.

So all we can do right now is wait for the fully story -- which be prepared -- we may never get.

[–]http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198039475565/MrTheodore [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

don't watch major on twitch or in dota tv

stop spending money in the dota store (in game and real life items), especially the next compendium/spring pass, whatever they want to call it.

spam valve from here on this sub, their forum, steam, write angry letters, just piss off valve, not anyone innocent.

[–]moo dotaclapland [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Don't watch the major. If you must watch, then do so on a non-official stream.

[–]KappaPridePipotchi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

when reddit starts complaining im pretty sure everyone finds out theyre not happy

[–]you_earned_this [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Requesting refund for compendium might work. Not sure if they'd do it but telling them you don't want them having your money is a message most companies listen to.

[–]wow mb are not doing terribly? okay sure maybe i'm deadblastcage [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Stop watching Dota, stop playing Dota, stop buying hats

Even playing and not buying their hats still adds value to their product, and even not watching non-Valve streams (though I don't want to shit on studios and streamers who are generally good people) shows a diminished audience and sends Valve a message through that

[–]shubhank008 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Create support ticket with steam, contact them via eMail or apply for refund on steam store (compendium)

[–]Swaginitus [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Why link all these threads if everything's been deleted? This whole subreddit's been nuked

[–]Anderkent [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Because this way you can go in and read the comments. It's not like the main posts had any real content in those anyway.

[–]http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198039475565/MrTheodore [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

you can still comment on removed threads, you just need a link to see it. if it was youtube, the video just went private, you dig?

[–]The Grand MagusZuneNebula [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nice Going Valve, what did you expect was gonna happen when you fire someone mid broadcast. If you werent happy with his performance, waiting till the major ended and then firing him, might have been much more reasonable. Not that I can see any good reason to fire him in the 1st place, considering Thorin and Lewis still have their jobs.

[–]Envy-chan so kawaiiKillroyomega [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Every time Yames goes to China something terrible happens.

[–]Muntberg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Aw man. I was looking forward for us to dominating the front page of /r/all.

I guess 4 posts would be pretty good.

[–]itzSchwix [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If Valve want to fire someone they should fire their shit tier production.

[–]JothHago [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm really not a big fan of pitch fork or jumping into conclusion so perhaps I shouldn't.

But, it's fucking hard not to have an opinion on this. If they are not happy with the way James has been hosting, they could actually pull him outside during the break and tell him to slow it down a little.

By just letting him go flat out, and by the looks of it, even the casters/panel are shocked at it, goes to show this is EXTREMELY BAD TASTE.

Maybe, just maybe we'll get information on this. Maybe. But fuck, this is really really fucking bad publicity for an event this scale.

Also, you would think, this is the bottom of the abyss of a poor production/organization. Or maybe people thinking it might be better from here on. I don't really know that this might be the abyss. It might be a bigger fuck up from hereon.

Seriously...this is bad..

[–]SirWombaticus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Was about to raise my pitchfork when the threads all went away.

Doing God's work there leafeater (you prick).

[–]robboelrobbo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

James has always been one of my favorite dota personalities. This sucks.

[–]4k AUSRoom-for-activies [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Again, just like diretide, most people are just annoyed at lack of communication. If he was let go, Valve/PW should of been the first to release a statement about it.

[–]nice junglevidyadawg [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

NOW THIS IS PODRACING

[–]cdxliv [スコア非表示]  (6子コメント)

At this point I am convinced Tencent (LoL Parent Company) just paid off all the Chinese teams and the event organizers to suck as much dick as possible. This effectively kills Dota 2 in China. Piss off the fans, piss off the teams, piss off the casters/analysts=no more Chinese dota.

[–]PPD FangayDamnationSC [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Are we really losing much in that situation though?

[–]cdxliv [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not really, dota was on the way out in China anyways. East vs West will live on through Korean Dota.

[–]frostivusiscancelled [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There are a fair number of problems that have nothing to do with the Chinese stream. Even the Russian stream had had far fewer production problems. It's a disaster for us, but not sure how upset anyone else is. I know the games themselves have had delays and problems, but things like 2GD getting the boot will not effect the Chinese scene.

[–]Sitchu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Has the production been bad on chinese stream tho?

[–]MultiNati [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

CIS deserve a major more than China.

[–]erbazzone [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I bought all compendiums since the first, I wasn't obliged to, I don't care about hats, I liked to give something to valve and the dota events (and players).

This is the last time unless some BIG explainations.

[–]Kanalplus [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

[–]huskerfan711 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Modern Warfare 2 Boycott Group

Majority of members playing Modern Warfare 2

Sweet boycott, that's pretty much what would happen if the same thing was done for DotA 2

[–]Bradllez [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Too bad Yames didn't have Aegis...

[–]PiersJS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What's with all these posts having removed comments? Is someone taking them down on purpose?

[–]kappa 4headsadmanrafid07 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bruno betrayed 2gd. Brothers no more. kappa

[–]eericson000 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Anyone that is in China right now, shout some drinks for James.

[–]Winicedrnk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

All personalities, Commentators should do something instead of us yelling each others

[–]Zett, the Arc WardenTheZett [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Daily reminder that the German Major was flawless, despite being the first.

[–]U GOD Void Kreygasmjjas01 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Agreed and i'm not a huge ESL fan. But that tournament was run amazingly.

[–]smittymj [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Anyone here have words of what's going on in Chinese forums?

[–]kharsus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I hardly think this is/was a witch hunt, also this kind of shit is the only way valve listens.

honestly i think this is a bad move, moderator.

[–]nesteheppaChinBaoe [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why is every thread text removed... wtf

[–]U GOD Void Kreygasmjjas01 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

James better be hosting TI6 as a make up job or I am so fucken done with any more of your fucken shit show delayed fucken majors.

[–]bodzaital [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Valve went full retard on this issue. Should've let Yames do the event, then solve the issue.

[–]Alequo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Firing the host trying to hold their shit show of a tournament together might actually be the dumbest solution to a problem I remember ever seeing.

[–]brooksta [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

i think its time to get a refund on compendium

[–]Sleepykins958 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So the Major is a complete disaster and the ONLY thing people are happy about seems to be James, and they fire James.

Brilliant.

Fuck "Professionalism". Fuck the disaster of an event. I don't blame the remaining hosts for staying but they honestly could just walk off, it isn't like Valve is going to prevent literally the only casters and analysts the Dota scene has from returning.

[–]dragovianlord9 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can I get a refund? This "major" is a complete shit show. Not only does it fucks my planned scedule up, when the game is actually on the problem is FUCKING every where. The only redeeming thing about this is MVP rekting people and 2GD and one of them is GONE.

Just take all my compendium set and give a refund, i don't care anymore.

[–]GodK-Sama [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Maybe its a dick move but reporting the twitch channel for production issues is so satisfying right now

[–]kut3b0y96 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

RIP Perfect World's reputation after this one. Don't think there will ever be another major hosted in China, at least under PW

[–]dankq [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

james was literally keeping the stream alive with all this stupid downtime between games, bad decision to make honestly when you fire the most entertaining person there trying to compensate for how shitty this tournament has been ran so far.

[–]XxLokixX [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Valve, you're fucking pathetic.

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[–]kawaii birdobnoxiousloudmouth [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

People start quitting the Major 1 by 1 and by the end it's just Merlini except to make the couch appear fuller Valve just copies and pastes him onto every separate couch WTF 3 MERLINIS

[–]http://steamcommunity.com/id/PuroYOSuperPuro [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't care about 2GD, I just want quality dota, something PW is failing to deliver.

[–]emeldavi_dota [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Call Valve and make sure to email them too.

http://www.valvesoftware.com/email.php 1-425-889-9642

[–]westcoastmaximalist [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

ha ha yeah Valve DEFINITELY pays utmost attention to their customer support

[–]emeldavi_dota [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Reminder that email servers and phone lines cost Valve money. Attack their bottom line.

[–]westcoastmaximalist [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

yeah if we send approximately 2 billion emails Valve might have to invest in buying another TB server. that's a cool $30!

[–]emeldavi_dota [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

...You actually have no idea how these things work do you? Bandwidth. The cost of actually sending data from A to B.

[–]sweetguysigh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I wonder what the other casters are feeling...are they living in fear now? They sound so defeated now :(

[–]DeVilleBT [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If anyone wants to watch decent esports production from china, LPL stream is currently live...

[–]notathrowacc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

10k+ people here online. Is this a record? /u/leafeator

[–]obyh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

James solo queued into a group. Everything the group did was a fuck up. James still almost salvaged the game. The group blamed him anyway.

[–]75000_Tokkul [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Realistically most of those upset about this tournament will still watch it live.

Something those people can do is watch alternative streams as a statement so if you know a good one post it.

[–]RIP DawngateGrey_Ferret [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

This tweet looks just sad now. :(

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2016-01-21 21:14 UTC

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[–]JothHago [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And what's worst..its the the tournament has been surprising to say the least, and attention should have been on the team. Instead, people are just going to end this tournament about all the fuckups that has happened.

Fuckme.

[–]just_let_me_sleep_in [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Was this addressed on stream at all, or was he just removed?

If it hasn't already been addressed, I'd really like to see a verbal response from the panelists, though that might mean putting their job in jeopardy and I wouldn't want that.

[–]dipdripson [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They shadowbanned Yames IRL :(

Pitchforks aside, after the numerous and frankly unacceptable issues this tourney has had thus far, firing the host on day 2 is just unreal levels of scapegoat-bullshit to me.

I guess the trade off in Valves eyes is amazing compendium or terrible tournament quality, and we all lose.

[–]KebBanu-Ring [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Valve must regret not letting Xyclopzz host...

[–]JPsynergy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He needed to tone down the envy hate, was over meme'd.

Otherwise standard James.

[–]lockethegoon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How is reddit not working when everyone is expressing their opinions? I thought the idea behind reddit was that everyone was able to express their opinions, unless we have Chairman Pao back or something....

[–]PeriganFire [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've never been more proud of Twitch chat. Expressing our collective emotion through copy pasta.

[–]Carl_Skaggs [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I thought 2GDs hosting was pretty cringe-y and unprofessional. If that's what Valve felt, and they felt strongly enough about it to remove him, so be it.

Seems a little extreme to do it in the middle of a tournament day, sure. I'm sure Sheever will do a fine job.

And the talk about the english casters "striking" is so incredibly misguided it's mind boggling... presumably Valve released 2GD for not doing the job to their satisfaction, that's not something you band together and protest against. You just act like professionals and move on. Sorry for the unpopular opinion, I guess.

[–]Karahx [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

From valve's directions? This seems like a dream for them, making the whole issue disappear. Wouldn't surprise me with Leafator as a mod.

[–]VyxNandoz [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

James '2GD' Harding was asked to be himself by Valve. 2GD: Ok Valve: Don't bUrself Fired

[–]Midas -> Refresher -> OctarineZeruvi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is a red cloth in front of a lot of internet bulls, but I kinda prefer Sheever. It sucks for James, and I'm kinda curious why he got the boot, but I'm not unhappy at the hosting switch.

[–]Crazy SeaMonsterthechudude1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Who was host for Frankfurt Majors? Was it RedEye?

[–]ThanesAdvice [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Obviously we can only speculate as to why it happened but I'm very curious. Was there anything that James said on today's panel that could warrant such a decision?

I mean if you invite James, you get James. Valve and Perfect World should know that. I hope he is doing okay.

[–]holysmoke532 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

a three merlinis joke is probably one strike. While i think the community understands it I get how valve think it might lok bad to have what is essentially a race joke in their multi-million dollar tournament.

[–]ThanesAdvice [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wasn't TI5 full of those as well though? I guess this time you are in China so maybe you have to be a bit more careful, but still...

[–]suh dudemufumafa [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Hey if you hire a dude with two gigantic wrecking balls for testicles, don't get salty when he uses them to demolish your socially inept "panelists". Valve's such a shit company these days. Fuck them.

[–]bloodmage7 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Calm down please and let valve come out with their reasons.

It's a major and not a joke tournament to fire shots and use f-word every sentence. That's why they fired him.

Don't act like kids and stop spamming.

[–]valio0524 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is my first and probably last post. They want something different get James, he said it himself hes been living under a rock for a while and hasnt really been doing much. They have issues with his "unprofessionalism" while having asked him to be himself and then fire him mid production. Hypocrisy much! May as well have went up on camera and fire him at that time at least there wouldnt be speculations why he got fired. Fuck this shit Im outie dont care even if Alliance wins, this tournament is done for me.

[–]B[A]CK!Sheruk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wheres a thread where reasonable people talk about how James deserved it and we are honestly not surprised this happened?