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[–]irwin08M'onetarist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did anyone else hear Trump mispronounce Kasich's name in the post-"debate" interview?

[–]turtlefucker472 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Come on it was under 500 comments, no need for emergency sticky

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

/u/besttrousers, this debate made me like Rubio again.

[–]besttrousers 4ポイント5ポイント  (11子コメント)

Wouldn't it be amazing if none if this bullshit mattered and in 6 months we got to watch Clinton and Rubio debate?

[–]Rekksuneo-libeler 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Clinton might not beat Rubio, and that'd be a pretty bad outcome.

[–]laboreconomist3ClintonBro, Cuck Knight for Shillary 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

No. A Rubio/Kasich ticket would be insurmountable for either Clinton or Sanders. A president Rubio with all 3 branches of government Republican and virtually zero state elected Democrats would be legitimately terrifying.

I honestly hope Trump wins the nomination because a Republican party with control of all three branches of government and the majority of state legislators would be destructive for this country.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

It will still have mattered though. Trump, Cruz, and Bernie have shattered the Overton Window. Trump is the heavy favorite and is beating Rubio in fucking Florida. And I've been burned (Berned?) enough by Rubio that my support is still provisional.

Romney could have won. He was way ahead in the polls in December. What the fuck is he doing instead?

[–]Webby911What is RIII? 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Cruz isn't anything new. And to an extent neither is Bernie, I mean he's not even gonna come close. Extremists have always been able to gain support from other extremist.

I really think the only interesting thing is Trump, who isn't really an "extremist" as much as just such a dipshit I can't imagine who's voting for him.

Like you can imagine why people could like Cruz or Bernie, but no one should like trump.

Also yeah, I think if Romney hadn't run against McCain in 2008 he would've had this whole thing wrapped up, he's probably just tired of this shit. Like Hillary would be SOOO much easier for him to beat. He'd be able to mention how he's just as a good a businessman as Donald while ALSO being self made, and running Massachussets, which like we all know is the third most important state.

[–]DarkestBeforeTheDon -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Trump would have smoked Romney. He lost the last election to Obama and was viewed as a "hold your nose" candidate by GOP populists last time around. Romney is about as good of a personification of the "establishment" as any Bush. Trump would have been on fire destroying those two as symbols of the loser establishment. Not to mention, how Mitt made his money. It would have been a bloodbath.

Also, Romney's dad was governor of Michigan, a CEO, and a presidential candidate in his own right. Not sure if "self-made" is the right term.

[–]Webby911What is RIII? 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah...exactly, Romney IS the establishment but he's the greatest moderate Candidate since Bill Clinton.

The establishment attack wouldn't work because Romney's likable, polished, and experienced. He's like Bush if Bush was a bit smarter, better looking, and didn't stutter.

You think Romney would take shit from Trump? Romney's the guy who would chuckle and then has the quip that makes Trump go read. He can't be rattled and he's he's quick on his feet.

Plus when it came to the general where it was him vs Hilary, her integrity could actually be called into question because she'd be running against a canidate with almost no dirt on him.

Remember the worst thing we heard about Romney was his "Binders of Women" comment. Like that's the one line he had. He could STROLLLL into the white house.

There was no clear frontrunner at the start of this race, Bush had "the lead" but there were a lot of questions. If Romney announced he was running than I can't imagine that Kasich, Bush, Christie, etc would have even entered, Carly would have been out the first day because her professional career is shit to Romney's. If Romney had announced would Trump have even entered the race?

[–]gizitistatismologist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The establishment attack wouldn't work because Romney's likable, polished, and experienced. He's like Bush if Bush was a bit smarter, better looking, and didn't stutter.

Great, now I'm thinking about how much better the country would have been if Romney '00 happened.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Polls from December showed Romney destroying the rest of the field both nationally and in early states.

[–]2x4yPhilosopher King 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He also looks incredibly healthy for being almost 70. Meanwhile Bernie looks like he was re animated.

[–]Jace_MacLeod 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

MODERATOR: Dr. Carson, what kind of person would you select to replace the late justice Scalia?

CARSON: The fruit salad of their life is what I would look at. They would need to have a proper balance of grapes, sliced bananas, strawberries, pineapple, and shredded lettuce. The freshness and sweetness would be very important. Ideally, they should look something like this:

[–]DrSandbagsDow Jones Propaganda Index 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Disappointed this wasn't your picture

[–]gizitistatismologist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the last election they ran a woman against our local haunted ice sculpture, she made a reference to "7 layer salad" in some ad or something. They hit her so hard for that. It was awful.

[–]miscsubs 7ポイント8ポイント  (10子コメント)

I think that is it for the GOP for me this cycle. Im probably more to the right of most people here. I want to find a GOP candidate I can like economically and from a policy perspective while I can tolerate some of the extreme elements of the party.

But what happened is GOP tied themselves so much to the voodoo that they can't even call BS when they see one.

They can't call out trump's ridiculous tax plan because it assumes the same stupid "tax cuts pay for themselves" crap except on steroids.

They are trying to pin down trump on Israel/Palestine so far from the right, they don't even realize most people don't give a shit about how super duper pro Israel you are as long as you're not a jihadi or some shit.

They can't call him out on foreign policy when none of them have even a clue about foreign policy (except Kasich a bit).

I mean trump said he'll cut one fucking trillion of fraud out of the budget! Even if you're a die hard conservative, you can't believe that. But none of them can call him out. Because that's what they've been telling the public forever.

Democrats are not that much better either with their voodoo economics and all the labeling but at least they will let gays live free and at least their trump is a reasonable man.

I wanna punch McConnell in the face (hey maybe trump is my candidate after all). Fine don't confirm obama's nominee. No problem there. But you can't secretly worry about Trump hijacking the party, and then the moment you have a chance to look like you guys are statesmen, act like Trump himself. All the fake outrage and drama with no substance in anything they're saying.

/rant

Note: I'll probably give up on the Dems after they debate. I'm gonna end up writing in Jim Webb. At least he killed a man or two. Nobody messes with that mofo.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

What's wrong with Shillary?

[–]miscsubs 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I go between liking her and hating her. Look let's be honest, she has the whole Democratic Party behind her, cleared (bulldozed even) the way for her and she still can't stop tripping her own foot. One second she's a policy wonk and can see two sides of an argument, the next second she is trying to prove she is more to the left than Bernie.

I also have this feeling she has some really bad political reflexes. You know how people are saying nothing is sticking to trump? Well, everything is sticking to Hillary!

Does she understand the power of choice, markets, incentives? Or is she basically agreeing with Bernie on everything but thinks we gotta get to that utopia just gradually? I can't tell. What do you believe in, Hillary?

The only thing i know she really cares about is children. And that might just be enough for my vote.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh there's no doubt she's a terrible campaigner. But as Trump and Bernie prove, that's not the same thing as being a good potential president.

[–]2x4yPhilosopher King 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Did you like Romney or Jeb?

[–]miscsubs 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I never liked Jeb. I think he's a decent person and has a lot of qualities but the fact that he had $150M line up behind him before anyone even spoke a word made me quite uncomfortable. If he ran a more Rubio-like campaign to begin with, and earned that support, I could have been on board with him.

I thought Romney could have really made a good president. Someone who has spent time both in real life and public life, someone who served in a liberal state as a conservative governor. But trump is right his campaign was just not good and I have to say Obama crew landed some low blows (but hey it's fair I guess).

[–]2x4yPhilosopher King 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Who is your dream GOP Pres?

[–]---FARTS---DO YOU SMELL IT? 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someone who can eat a banana without pealing it.

[–]oneofyourFrenchgirlsmajoring in misapplied mathematics 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Condoleezza Rice : ^ )

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Did you like Romney or Jeb!?

FTFY

[–]gizitistatismologist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To make it clearer perhaps the order should have been "Jeb! or Romney?"

[–]mobysniperProponent of Geckonomics 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trump at the debate.

[–]DarkestBeforeTheDon 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I miss Ron Paul. This shit would have been off the mother fucking hook if he would have just manned up and ran again.

[–]Rekksuneo-libeler 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah Ron Paul was such a great candidate. His economic sense was sound, and his social views were in line with the 21st century.

[–]HumanKapital_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Out of Happenings?

[–]kogno 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

run

[–]gizitistatismologist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, Rand just didn't have it. It's sad. He's a pathetic little guy.

[–]DarkestBeforeTheDon 1ポイント2ポイント  (12子コメント)

My prediction:

Trump has plurality of the delegates but not enough to seal the deal at the convention. Tensions are high as political posturing begins to shake things loose. Just as it looks like a semblance of sanity is about to emerge, Karl Rove takes the stage. Snoop's "Lodi Dodi" starts playing over the loud speakers as Rove announces that the establishment has decided to nominate a Jeb!/Romney ticket.

The NY Times publishes a piece two days later uncovering massive investments in talk radio/right wing news sites by a cabal of GOP establishment types.

[–]Webby911What is RIII? -3ポイント-2ポイント  (10子コメント)

Wow... A Romney/Jeb or a Jeb/Romney ticket would be the fucking dank. Can you imagine?

Would be so reasonable, quite 8 years of efficiency.

[–]lorenzorye 2ポイント3ポイント  (9子コメント)

Except that with a Repub president Congress would probably try to outlaw immigration, homosexuality and vaginas.

[–]Webby911What is RIII? 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

"I want that to be the favored system for immigration. I also believe that we should have temporary work visas consistent with the needs of the employment community and by the way, if the student does so well that they get an advanced degree, I'd staple the green card to their diploma. For those young people who, for instance, serve in our military, that they should be able to become a permanent resident."

"I like legal immigration I'd have the number of visas that we give to people here that come here legally, determined in part by the needs of our employment community. But we have to secure our border and crack down on those that bring folks here and hire here illegally."

"Romney added that he believes states should be able to decide whether to offer certain legal rights to same-sex couples, according to the Associated Press."

All of these are reasonable things. And abortion is murder so fucking good.

[–]lorenzorye 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ok, but you can't seriously tell me that if a new DOMA came to his desk he wouldn't sign it. He would have a base to support and TEAs to keep in check.

[–]Rekksuneo-libeler 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Jeb! and Romney only look decent if you compare them to Cruz and Trump. That's not saying much.

[–]Webby911What is RIII? 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

He got his JD/MBA at harvard and then became Vice President of Bain. Salt Lake Olympics and people in Mass like him.

He's a great candidate no matter where you put him. He's a better Jeb and Jeb was the best GOP candidate this race

[–]Rekksuneo-libeler 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

All of the people running for president are highly successful. I don't see how that makes their policy ideas not shit.

[–]Webby911What is RIII? 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's more successful.

And isn't crazy.

Also seems like a nice guy, did his mormon volunteer shit.

[–]Rekksuneo-libeler 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

How is he "more" successful? Not everyone is trying to be super rich, if that's what you mean. And Trump is richer.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or, like, Bernie. If you would be the second best candidate in an election that initially had 20 people, I think you're pretty fine.

[–]Rekksuneo-libeler 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What makes them better than Sanders other than the nebulous assumption that a ""moderate"" Republican will have decent economic policy?

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

#DraftRomney

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck it, I'm done. Early class and I've got enough out of this. The democratic debates look like Lincoln-Douglas next to this crap.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 6ポイント7ポイント  (10子コメント)

What. The. Actual. Fuck. You. Dipshits.

[–]IntegraldsI am the rep agent AMA 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

These are the actual debates wherein a major political party in the most powerful nation on earth decides who they're going to run for the most powerful single elected position on the planet.

If I were a Republican Party leader/elder, I'd be pissed the fuck off.

[–]Homeboy_JesusI'm Mr. Mises look at me!!! 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Context for those of us stuck at the airport because YYZ can't unload checked baggage before the second coming?

[–]___OccamsChainsaw___Sensible Knave 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

God doesn't Pearson suck? Fuckin' hate that airport.

[–]jsmooth7 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously, it's just terrible.

[–]instrumentrainfallI'll take 'Bonferroni Correction' for $500, Alex 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

The Republican debate has devolved into name-calling, shouting, and squabbling (even more than usual).

[–]---FARTS---DO YOU SMELL IT? 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, I think this is happening only because of Trump. In fact, if he was on the dem side or if he is the general debates, I think we will see the same thing.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Republican debate has devolved into continued with the usual name-calling, shouting, and squabbling (even more than usual).

[–]instrumentrainfallI'll take 'Bonferroni Correction' for $500, Alex 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMO, this is a new low though.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cruz was asked a question and he and Trump literally spent the entire answer yelling at and over each other.

More generally, everyone is acting totally bonkers other than Rubio on Apple.

[–]miscsubs 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think people are being unfair a bit. It's basically Trump instigating all of this. If the stage were the other four, sure they would disagree but they wouldn't talk over each other more than Hillary and Bernie do and they wouldn't call each other liar, a joke, basically names.

I'm actually mad a Kasich doing his "I'm an adult" shtick while as an adult he wouldn't even dare to call out Trump's ridiculous tax plan. Come on, John.

[–]instrumentrainfallI'll take 'Bonferroni Correction' for $500, Alex 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ben Carson: "Could somebody attack me please?"

#bless

Edit: Omg, this is literally children bickering.

[–]130911256MAN 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

God this is embarrassing... /u/grevemoeskr, let me stay at your place until Hillary is nominated in November.

[–]grevemoeskrPhysics 101 don't account for air. Hence, physics is bullshit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uhh... ok. Do you mind sleeping on an air mattress?

[–]DarkestBeforeTheDon 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

Is there some upper-bound on how much postmodern irony can infect a national election?

[–]flyingdragon8Retro Neoclassical Kanyesian 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

Is Trump some kind of Black Mirror style conceptual artist?

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Relevant

[–]mjohnson062 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

7:47 in.... hadn't heard of this before. Thank you Reddit, for providing another means for me to maintain a low rate of productivity.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

The entire show is great, but depressing af. "The Waldo Moment" was panned as one of the worst episodes when it cam out in 2013 (for one, too much politics, not enough tech), but it's been utterly prescient.

[–]PonderayFollows an AR(1) process 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I thought it was one of the better ones. I'm not sure why it gets so much hate.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When did you first watch it? I feel like it would have seemed much more ludicrous had we not already seen it come true.

[–]mjohnson062 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, that did end disappointingly.

[–]gilgenk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It might be even more disappointing come November.

[–]flyingdragon8Retro Neoclassical Kanyesian 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iha1umZ9hw

[–]messenak 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

REMOVE THE IRS!

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

When will Cruz start yelling at Rubio in Spanish again?

[–]Jesusloveseggnog 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

Kasich is looking good

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Like physically attractive?

[–]___OccamsChainsaw___Sensible Knave 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Meh.

[–]Jesusloveseggnog 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That too

[–]flyingdragon8Retro Neoclassical Kanyesian 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What do you think would happen if you posted him to /r/ladyboners?

I wish I was your running mate, siiiigh ;)

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

John Baesich

[–]gizitistatismologist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

/a/s/cop/not a cop?

[–]futileses 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cruz seems to think that being a Republican is about being against Democrats, and not about being a Republican.

[–]Lyreface 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sounds an awful lot like the GOP election strategy for the last ten years to me!

[–]ipraxiactipraxagain 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

That attack on Trump by Ted was crazy. Who is Cruz hoping to win over by hounding Trump for saying "I won't let people die in the street"??

[–]gizitistatismologist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's called being principled. That's his appeal.

[–]IntegraldsI am the rep agent AMA 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

He's going to make a "gotcha" attack ad, because he recalls Trump supporting some kind of public health care system in a previous debate.

[–]ipraxiactipraxagain 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I can remember Trump saying something like that too, it just seemed super weird to me that Cruz made that particular gotcha question. "I won't let people die in the street" doesn't really scream "I want public healthcare" and I just don't see any candidate saying they do think it's ok to have people dying in the streets when asked.

[–]ledankmemes 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I actually knew someone who supported ron paul and said this is part of the reason. That he's the only candidate willing to let people die to fix healthcare. That everyone else is just pushing the bill around.

So apparently at least some people have that stance.

[–]HumanKapital_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sure your friend would think that, if he was the person who lost his insurance and contracted a disease.

[–]ledankmemes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wasn't a friend, was actually an uncle.

But yeah, I don't support that at all. Frankly I can't imagine anyone doing it.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Let him die" is an applause line in GOP debates when it comes to providing healthcare to the poor.

[–]lorenzorye 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just as Jesus would want it to be, but he was fired for voting for Hillary in the Nevada primary.

[–]futileses 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Just resucitate Steve Jobs and you get +100% JOBS!

JOBS JOBS JOBS

Easy peasy.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Isn't his daughter a Jobs? So 50%?

[–]gilgenk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When you have one and get one more, I think that's a 100% increase. When we lost Steve, we lost 50% of the Jobs that we had before that. But I could be wrong. I only have a BS in Economics so I'm not sure how qualified I am to be here.

[–]vShockAndAwevSupply don't real 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

"The Tax Foundation says your plan will cost $10 trillion over the next decade, adjusted for the increased economic growth that will result. How do you plan on paying for it?"

"Growth."

R.I.P. fiscal responsibility.

[–]gorbachev 22ポイント23ポイント  (15子コメント)

Trump is genius. So, by bluster and demeanor alone, he could win the GOP nomination -- all without being pinned to a conservative platform! I mean, he's literally defending Planned Parenthood and tepidly supporting Obamacare, the individual mandate, and universal health coverage. He's running as a general election moderate in the GOP primary and pulling it off. He's selling Obama policies to a fervent GOP crowd.

So, this is the question I guess. Is it better to win your primary through crazy policy and smart demeanor, but then have to walk back the policies? Or is it better to win your primary with smart policy and crazy demeanor, but then have to walk back the demeanor?

I don't know. I guess we'll find out.

Edit: And now he is tepidly supporting Palestine.

Edit edit: Come to think of it, in the midst of his Jeb bashing, he said W should've been impeached, fully divorcing himself from the legacy of the Iraq War.

[–]lorenzorye 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Please point out which of his policies are smart.

[–]gorbachev 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I mean, that's a stylized characterization of the situation. More accurate if you replace "crazy" with "very conservative" and "smart" with "relatively more moderate".

[–]lorenzorye 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Um, outside of the debates, his platform is not what I would characterize moderate.

[–]gorbachev 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Relative to the GOP, yeah. Look, mostly, he hasn't been pinned down to a platform. He just blusters and runs with it. Ban the immigrants and build a wall? Great, he's in the GOP. Now, weigh that against his apparent pivot toward Palestine, support for Obamacare, the works. Look at the vector, not the current position.

He's managed to convince the GOP he's a hardliner mainly via rhetoric, albeit partly via policy. Now, he's bringing out non-hardliner policies. Next, he backs away from the rhetoric and other bits. It's genius tactics. I'm not like, telling you to vote for him. But, it does take some brilliant politicking to figure out this pretty unique path to victory. (Not to mention: he's step by step gutting the GOP platform.)

[–]NakedOldGuy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was saying the same thing earlier. He is pandering to the GOP crowd through rhetoric. His policy positions are practically nonexistant and when pressed, he spouts something that is not far from an Obama stance. But he then immediately plays it off with more extreme rhetoric that means nothing "build a wall, amirite?"

[–]gorbachev 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

++

I'd feel smug for having assumed it was a cynical scheme from the start, but I really can't given how I absolutely didn't foresee this particular path forward.

[–]lorenzorye 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not convinced anything he says has permanence. He's a rudderless ship to me.

[–]gorbachev 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a rudderless ship to me.

Do you really think the hypothesis that Trump is behaving randomly is a good one? There probably is no "permanence" in whatever he says, but it's probably for very well ruddered (heh) reasons -- namely, cynical ones focused on winning.

[–]gizitistatismologist 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just tuned in a moment ago to hear Rubio shouting over Trump that Palestine == Terrorist and Trump saying, "Look, you got to negotiate a deal, it's hard, but you gotta negotiate." And I'm like, shit, this is Trump?

[–]Sheev_is_a_meme 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is just crazy, huh? This is just nuts. Jeez oh man.

[–]ipraxiactipraxagain 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Weirdly with Planned Parenthood, Trump defended the thing for 30 seconds, and then at the end said he won't fund PP regardless of all that because he's pro-life. I didn't get why defend it if you want it gone anyway.

[–]gorbachev 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because he's pulling the GOP to the left. And that's how you start.

[–]NakedOldGuy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, it is his way to play both sides. He can say he was on the right side of history and of the people, regardless of how wrong he is on stage because he is on both sides of being wrong. He is intentionally contradicting himself because he knows it has no consequences.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's...he's really not though. I'd rather they focus on the pointless red meat of Planned Parenthood than on banning immigrants based on their religion.

[–]gorbachev -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay, but he's also basically defending Obamacare and Palestine. And claims W should've been impeached for the Iraq War. I mean, I'm not saying the random bigotry he's been throwing around is like, left wing or something. But I think it's hard to deny that his policy platform is leftier than the rest of the GOP.

[–]FuturesaurusRex 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

Trump has a 0% favorability rating among latinos on this stage.

[–]IamthelolrusCorn on the Cobb-Douglas 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What about people born in Canada?

[–]instrumentrainfallI'll take 'Bonferroni Correction' for $500, Alex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS DEBATE IS A SHIT SHOW AND I LOVE IT!

[–]ledankmemes 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

So is Ben Carson's healthcare plan a basic income plan for only healthcare? Or just a savings account? What does he actually mean?

He gave lots of specifics but its still vague.

[–]IntegraldsI am the rep agent AMA 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's a health empowerment account. duh.

[–]ledankmemes 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean, his page says its a savings account...but like, why not just get a savings account?

[–]-Piglet- 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's talking about an HSA.

[–]ledankmemes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He actually compared it to a HSA and said its without the bureaucracy. Unless I misunderstand it, a HSA is different because of the bureaucracy.

[–]usrname42post-neoclassical endogenous growth theorist 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Emergency stickies with fewer than 400 comments in the original sticky? Mods are going full Volcker.

[–]IamthelolrusCorn on the Cobb-Douglas 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Vote for me for Automoderator. We're going to make badeconomics great again!

[–]gizitistatismologist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

HELICOPTER STICKIES.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

We are going full Bernanke. Volker would have cut the stickies to one per week until people stopped making so many comments. Then after the sub slowed to a halt he would have returned the daily sticky to watch people rejoice in comments.

[–]turtlefucker472 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

thanks mr bernke

[–]Murray_BannermanListen all a ya'll it's an Arbitrage 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

thanks mr bernke

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is anyone familiar with "shipping the good apples out"? Just curious if it's a common thing talked about.

[–]lord_of_the_rallyPraxxing my way through college 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not watching the debate but I can give a Brazilian perspective. As a poor nation, we've always exported our best products and kept the crappy ones. Coffee, cars, you name it. Top-grade coffee is still called "export type", BTW. So if it's about that what you're talking about, it's a really common thing down there in Brazil.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wasn't in the debate. Just something I was wanting to discuss.

If you have high quality goods and low quality goods, when adding shipping costs, the high quality goods become relatively cheaper which means the substitution effect pushes consumption towards higher quality.

I think the issue with coffee is that there are two kinds: commodity coffee and single origin (boutique) which are somewhat separate markets. Commodity coffee is priced uniformly whereas single origin varies by quality. The boutique market is relatively new, so perhaps it's just that quality as a part of international demand is less important.

[–]lord_of_the_rallyPraxxing my way through college 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The thing about exporting high-quality coffee is actually from the 19th century. I found a blog post by a very good Brazilian economist on exporting high quality goods. You may want to put it on Google Translator and give it a look. The model he proposes is exactly the one you mentioned.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

Oklahoma is killing Nebraska in trade. They are being killed. When I'm governor, it will be a Beautiful thing. I'll put tariffs on goods from Oaky. The Oakies love me.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

OK then

[–]dreamshade 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oklahoma is killing

OK then

I see what you did there.

[–]IntegraldsI am the rep agent AMA 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

BREAKING: Trump: "We should get rid of the borders."

Wow, what a turnaround. We won!

[–]flyingdragon8Retro Neoclassical Kanyesian 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

THERE IS LEBRENSRAUM IN MEXICO

MAKE AMERICA REICH AGAIN

[–]futileses 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd support that lolI_want_to_go_over_there_and_steal_your_jobs

[–]roboczarWe're here, we're hetero, get used to it! 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh Jesus christ

[–]lorentz65DEMAND FOR THE DEMAND GOD! 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Where's the chat man?

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Paging /u/thechatman

[–]lorentz65DEMAND FOR THE DEMAND GOD! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

clever

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm tempted to start asking Mark Levine questions on Reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/47kuf5/cut_it_out_sen_toomey_senator_toomey_zealously/

[–]Murray_BannermanListen all a ya'll it's an Arbitrage 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hate his politics, but that man is so goddamned hilarious.

[–]TychoTiberiusKeynes was a volcano 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He just yells the entire time. It's great.

[–]lord_of_the_rallyPraxxing my way through college 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love poorly educated stickies

[–]bdubs91You Can't Scrub The Dub 21ポイント22ポイント  (4子コメント)

THE MODS ARE BEGINNING TO DEPORT PEOPLE.

SOMEONE TEACH ME R SO I CAN RUN A DATA ANALYSIS PROVING IT.

#WHYSTICKIESFAIL

[–]jingzi_factory 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

help(speakingwithoutanaccent)

[–]a_s_h_e_nA stable currency, like bitcoin 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was going to make a shitty R graph detailing the situation, but I turned out to be drunk

[–]Fallline048Tricky Ricardo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was going to build a shiny app interactively showing the effect of changing the size of the stickytary base on memecome inequality but Paul Krugman smashed my computer muttering something about job creation.

[–]gizitistatismologist 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

GGPLOT HAS GREAT DEFAULTS NO NEED FOR AN R GRAPH TO BE SHITTY

[–]BenJacksLabor is lumpy due to irrational actors 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh oh can I be the FIRST to be deported?

[–]bdubs91You Can't Scrub The Dub 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

no R question. Deported.