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[–]DarkestBeforeTheDon 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I miss Ron Paul. This shit would have been off the mother fucking hook if he would have just manned up and ran again.

[–]gizitistatismologist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, Rand just didn't have it. It's sad. He's a pathetic little guy.

[–]DarkestBeforeTheDon 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

My prediction:

Trump has plurality of the delegates but not enough to seal the deal at the convention. Tensions are high as political posturing begins to shake things loose. Just as it looks like a semblance of sanity is about to emerge, Karl Rove takes the stage. Snoop's "Lodi Dodi" starts playing over the loud speakers as Rove announces that the establishment has decided to nominate a Jeb!/Romney ticket.

The NY Times publishes a piece two days later uncovering massive investments in talk radio/right wing news sites by a cabal of GOP establishment types.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

#DraftRomney

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck it, I'm done. Early class and I've got enough out of this. The democratic debates look like Lincoln-Douglas next to this crap.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

What. The. Actual. Fuck. You. Dipshits.

[–]Homeboy_JesusI'm Mr. Mises look at me!!! 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Context for those of us stuck at the airport because YYZ can't unload checked baggage before the second coming?

[–]instrumentrainfallI'll take 'Bonferroni Correction' for $500, Alex 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Republican debate has devolved into name-calling, shouting, and squabbling (even more than usual).

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Republican debate has devolved into continued with the usual name-calling, shouting, and squabbling (even more than usual).

[–]instrumentrainfallI'll take 'Bonferroni Correction' for $500, Alex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMO, this is a new low though.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cruz was asked a question and he and Trump literally spent the entire answer yelling at and over each other.

More generally, everyone is acting totally bonkers other than Rubio on Apple.

[–]miscsubs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think people are being unfair a bit. It's basically Trump instigating all of this. If the stage were the other four, sure they would disagree but they wouldn't talk over each other more than Hillary and Bernie do and they wouldn't call each other liar, a joke, basically names.

I'm actually mad a Kasich doing his "I'm an adult" shtick while as an adult he wouldn't even dare to call out Trump's ridiculous tax plan. Come on, John.

[–]instrumentrainfallI'll take 'Bonferroni Correction' for $500, Alex 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ben Carson: "Could somebody attack me please?"

#bless

Edit: Omg, this is literally children bickering.

[–]130911256MAN 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

God this is embarrassing... /u/grevemoeskr, let me stay at your place until Hillary in nominated in November.

[–]DarkestBeforeTheDon 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is there some upper-bound on how much postmodern irony can infect a national election?

[–]flyingdragon8Retro Neoclassical Kanyesian 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is Trump some kind of Black Mirror style conceptual artist?

[–]messenak 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

REMOVE THE IRS!

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

When will Cruz start yelling at Rubio in Spanish again?

[–]Jesusloveseggnog 4ポイント5ポイント  (5子コメント)

Kasich is looking good

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Like physically attractive?

[–]Jesusloveseggnog 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That too

[–]flyingdragon8Retro Neoclassical Kanyesian 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What do you think would happen if you posted him to /r/ladyboners?

I wish I was your running mate, siiiigh ;)

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

John Baesich

[–]gizitistatismologist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

/a/s/cop/not a cop?

[–]futileses 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cruz seems to think that being a Republican is about being against Democrats, and not about being a Republican.

[–]Lyreface 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sounds an awful lot like the GOP election strategy for the last ten years to me!

[–]ipraxiactipraxagain 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

That attack on Trump by Ted was crazy. Who is Cruz hoping to win over by hounding Trump for saying "I won't let people die in the street"??

[–]gizitistatismologist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's called being principled. That's his appeal.

[–]IntegraldsI am the rep agent AMA 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

He's going to make a "gotcha" attack ad, because he recalls Trump supporting some kind of public health care system in a previous debate.

[–]ipraxiactipraxagain 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I can remember Trump saying something like that too, it just seemed super weird to me that Cruz made that particular gotcha question. "I won't let people die in the street" doesn't really scream "I want public healthcare" and I just don't see any candidate saying they do think it's ok to have people dying in the streets when asked.

[–]ledankmemes 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

I actually knew someone who supported ron paul and said this is part of the reason. That he's the only candidate willing to let people die to fix healthcare. That everyone else is just pushing the bill around.

So apparently at least some people have that stance.

[–]HumanKapital_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sure your friend would think that, if he was the person who lost his insurance and contracted a disease.

[–]ledankmemes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wasn't a friend, was actually an uncle.

But yeah, I don't support that at all. Frankly I can't imagine anyone doing it.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Let him die" is an applause line in GOP debates when it comes to providing healthcare to the poor.

[–]lorenzorye 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just as Jesus would want it to be, but he was fired for voting for Hillary in the Nevada primary.

[–]futileses 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just resucitate Steve Jobs and you get +100% JOBS!

JOBS JOBS JOBS

Easy peasy.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't his daughter a Jobs? So 50%?

[–]vShockAndAwevSupply don't real 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

"The Tax Foundation says your plan will cost $10 trillion over the next decade, adjusted for the increased economic growth that will result. How do you plan on paying for it?"

"Growth."

R.I.P. fiscal responsibility.

[–]gorbachev 14ポイント15ポイント  (10子コメント)

Trump is genius. So, by bluster and demeanor alone, he could win the GOP nomination -- all without being pinned to a conservative platform! I mean, he's literally defending Planned Parenthood and tepidly supporting Obamacare, the individual mandate, and universal health coverage. He's running as a general election moderate in the GOP primary and pulling it off. He's selling Obama policies to a fervent GOP crowd.

So, this is the question I guess. Is it better to win your primary through crazy policy and smart demeanor, but then have to walk back the policies? Or is it better to win your primary with smart policy and crazy demeanor, but then have to walk back the demeanor?

I don't know. I guess we'll find out.

Edit: And now he is tepidly supporting Palestine.

Edit edit: Come to think of it, in the midst of his Jeb bashing, he said W should've been impeached, fully divorcing himself from the legacy of the Iraq War.

[–]lorenzorye 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Please point out which of his policies are smart.

[–]gorbachev 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean, that's a stylized characterization of the situation. More accurate if you replace "crazy" with "very conservative" and "smart" with "relatively more moderate".

[–]lorenzorye 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Um, outside of the debates, his platform is not what I would characterize moderate.

[–]gorbachev 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Relative to the GOP, yeah. Look, mostly, he hasn't been pinned down to a platform. He just blusters and runs with it. Ban the immigrants and build a wall? Great, he's in the GOP. Now, weigh that against his apparent pivot toward Palestine, support for Obamacare, the works. Look at the vector, not the current position.

He's managed to convince the GOP he's a hardliner mainly via rhetoric, albeit partly via policy. Now, he's bringing out non-hardliner policies. Next, he backs away from the rhetoric and other bits. It's genius tactics. I'm not like, telling you to vote for him. But, it does take some brilliant politicking to figure out this pretty unique path to victory. (Not to mention: he's step by step gutting the GOP platform.)

[–]gizitistatismologist 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just tuned in a moment ago to hear Rubio shouting over Trump that Palestine == Terrorist and Trump saying, "Look, you got to negotiate a deal, it's hard, but you gotta negotiate." And I'm like, shit, this is Trump?

[–]Sheev_is_a_meme 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is just crazy, huh? This is just nuts. Jeez oh man.

[–]ipraxiactipraxagain 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Weirdly with Planned Parenthood, Trump defended the thing for 30 seconds, and then at the end said he won't fund PP regardless of all that because he's pro-life. I didn't get why defend it if you want it gone anyway.

[–]gorbachev 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because he's pulling the GOP to the left. And that's how you start.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's...he's really not though. I'd rather they focus on the pointless red meat of Planned Parenthood than on banning immigrants based on their religion.

[–]gorbachev 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Okay, but he's also basically defending Obamacare and Palestine. And claims W should've been impeached for the Iraq War. I mean, I'm not saying the random bigotry he's been throwing around is like, left wing or something. But I think it's hard to deny that his policy platform is leftier than the rest of the GOP.

[–]FuturesaurusRex 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trump has a 0% favorability rating among latinos on this stage.

[–]instrumentrainfallI'll take 'Bonferroni Correction' for $500, Alex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

THIS DEBATE IS A SHIT SHOW AND I LOVE IT!

[–]ledankmemes 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

So is Ben Carson's healthcare plan a basic income plan for only healthcare? Or just a savings account? What does he actually mean?

He gave lots of specifics but its still vague.

[–]IntegraldsI am the rep agent AMA 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

It's a health empowerment account. duh.

[–]ledankmemes 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I mean, his page says its a savings account...but like, why not just get a savings account?

[–]-Piglet- 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's talking about an HSA.

[–]ledankmemes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He actually compared it to a HSA and said its without the bureaucracy. Unless I misunderstand it, a HSA is different because of the bureaucracy.

[–]usrname42post-neoclassical endogenous growth theorist 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Emergency stickies with fewer than 400 comments in the original sticky? Mods are going full Volcker.

[–]gizitistatismologist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

HELICOPTER STICKIES.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

We are going full Bernanke. Volker would have cut the stickies to one per week until people stopped making so many comments. Then after the sub slowed to a halt he would have returned the daily sticky to watch people rejoice in comments.

[–]Murray_BannermanListen all a ya'll it's an Arbitrage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

thanks mr bernke

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Is anyone familiar with "shipping the good apples out"? Just curious if it's a common thing talked about.

[–]lord_of_the_rallyPraxxing my way through college 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm not watching the debate but I can give a Brazilian perspective. As a poor nation, we've always exported our best products and kept the crappy ones. Coffee, cars, you name it. Top-grade coffee is still called "export type", BTW. So if it's about that what you're talking about, it's a really common thing down there in Brazil.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wasn't in the debate. Just something I was wanting to discuss.

If you have high quality goods and low quality goods, when adding shipping costs, the high quality goods become relatively cheaper which means the substitution effect pushes consumption towards higher quality.

I think the issue with coffee is that there are two kinds: commodity coffee and single origin (boutique) which are somewhat separate markets. Commodity coffee is priced uniformly whereas single origin varies by quality. The boutique market is relatively new, so perhaps it's just that quality as a part of international demand is less important.

[–]lord_of_the_rallyPraxxing my way through college 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The thing about exporting high-quality coffee is actually from the 19th century. I found a blog post by a very good Brazilian economist on exporting high quality goods. You may want to put it on Google Translator and give it a look. The model he proposes is exactly the one you mentioned.

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oklahoma is killing Nebraska in trade. They are being killed. When I'm governor, it will be a Beautiful thing. I'll put tariffs on goods from Oaky. The Oakies love me.

[–]say_wot_againSend complaints to hrod17@clintonemail.com 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

OK then

[–]IntegraldsI am the rep agent AMA 17ポイント18ポイント  (3子コメント)

BREAKING: Trump: "We should get rid of the borders."

Wow, what a turnaround. We won!

[–]flyingdragon8Retro Neoclassical Kanyesian 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

THERE IS LEBRENSRAUM IN MEXICO

MAKE AMERICA REICH AGAIN

[–]futileses 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd support that lolI_want_to_go_over_there_and_steal_your_jobs

[–]roboczarWe're here, we're hetero, get used to it! 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh Jesus christ

[–]lorentz65DEMAND FOR THE DEMAND GOD! 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Where's the chat man?

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Paging /u/thechatman

[–]lorentz65DEMAND FOR THE DEMAND GOD! 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

clever

[–]urnbabyurnPezzonovante[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm tempted to start asking Mark Levine questions on Reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/47kuf5/cut_it_out_sen_toomey_senator_toomey_zealously/

[–]Murray_BannermanListen all a ya'll it's an Arbitrage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hate his politics, but that man is so goddamned hilarious.

[–]lord_of_the_rallyPraxxing my way through college 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love poorly educated stickies

[–]bdubs91You Can't Scrub The Dub 15ポイント16ポイント  (4子コメント)

THE MODS ARE BEGINNING TO DEPORT PEOPLE.

SOMEONE TEACH ME R SO I CAN RUN A DATA ANALYSIS PROVING IT.

#WHYSTICKIESFAIL

[–]jingzi_factory 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

help(speakingwithoutanaccent)

[–]a_s_h_e_nA stable currency, like bitcoin 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was going to make a shitty R graph detailing the situation, but I turned out to be drunk

[–]Fallline048Tricky Ricardo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was going to build a shiny app interactively showing the effect of changing the size of the stickytary base on memecome inequality but Paul Krugman smashed my computer muttering something about job creation.

[–]gizitistatismologist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

GGPLOT HAS GREAT DEFAULTS NO NEED FOR AN R GRAPH TO BE SHITTY

[–]BenJacksLabor is lumpy due to irrational actors 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh oh can I be the FIRST to be deported?

[–]bdubs91You Can't Scrub The Dub 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

no R question. Deported.