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TLDR: 1) AWALT even my fucking mom has branch swung at at least one point in time. 2) I would appreciate input on next steps. Is it worth it to bring this up? I refuse to believe my mom is just using my dad 100% for his money, I personally choose to believe that she loves him still, even if she may have kept this horrible secret hidden (and perhaps that is even supporting evidence to her loving him). That makes me happiest. I dont want to cause a miserable shit storm in my family. We are all pretty happy these days as things go and I don't want to be selfish and ruin that.
<HEAD> I am so conflicted right now. On the one hand, I suppose I should have seen this coming all along. On the other hand... jesus. Its my own father.
Some background
Me: Am a freshman in college. Im enrolled in a basic GE bio entry level course. Weve been learning about genes, inheritance, etc... there is a lab attached to the course. Today we did "do it yourself" blood typing. I was under the impression since I asked my mom about it told me when I was 10 or whatever, that I am O blood type.
For those not familiar, you can be A, AB, B, or O. Your type is determined by two (one from each parent) of 3 possible alleles (A, B, and O). A and B are codominant and O is recessive, meaning if you have the A and B allele you would be AB. If you have A and O alleles, A (since its dominant) would mask the O, and you would be type A with alleles A and O. If you are type O then the ONLY possible alleles you can have are O and O, therefore you can ONLY pass an O allele to your child.
1) Anyways, today when we did the blood test, I found out I am type AB. Part of me still thinks the test must have been wrong. I did it twice just to make sure I wasn't hallucinating, but even still maybe it was wrong. My dad is type O (I noticed when I went w him to one of his (fairly) recent doctors appointments, plus have asked in the past and thats what he said). Anyways him being O wouldn't be a problem if I was type O like Id been led to believe. He would have passed me an O, meaning I would be A, B, or O. But since he can ONLY pass me O, I cannot be AB.
Cont background: parents Mom is way too crass at the dinner table sometimes and jokes about stuff like "oh yeah anal is really great" (my reaction every time: OMG MOM STOP I WONT WANT TO HEAR THIS). I have overheard her on occasion talking to her friends when they are over about stuff they have done with other guys, but I usually make a point to stop listening quickly. No one wants to imagine their parents doing anything raunchy.
Dad: OK here is the part about Dad that makes me think maybe I should have seen this coming. His first marriage he adopted two of his wifes children from another marriage (not his) after returning from military service. Then went on to have another two children with her. They divorced I dont know when, but some time before my mom and him met in law school when they were late 20s or early 30s. They had me and my brother. My dad has a really nice job. He's paid for four kids to go through college already, and still has me and my younger brother who's in 10th grade. He regularly helps out (read: donates money to) the lowlife son from his first wifes marriage. Mom doesn't work so god knows how much he gives her to help her stay alive.
2) All that being said he is still one of the happiest people I know. Im horrified with what happened in lab today and still want to get another independent blood type just to make sure Im not wrong about this, but as Im looking at my parents relationship in hindsight, with a sinking shitty feeling, I can't find anything that actively disconfirms that she might have cheated on him to have me.
No I do not have any wish to find my "real" dad. That is him as far as I am concerned. But I don't want to hurt him either. He is very happy in his relationship with my mom. I don't have any super solid reason to believe she is still cheating on him or that it was more than a one time thing.
Lessons learned: WTF life is a real bitch sometimes, and so is apparently every god damn woman on the planet at one time or another
EDIT 1: Any updates I post will be in the UPDATE comment below
EDIT 2: Fuck that Ill just post updates here
UPDATE 1) Last night was hell. I called my mom and told her about it. She admitted in so many words that she had been having an affair that lasted 6 mo around the time I was conceived, explained that she wasn't feeling connected to Dad at that time and the relationship was rocky. Begged me not to tell him, which I still haven't (yet). Said it was the only time anything like that happened and that she loves Dad, and theres nothing that can be accomplished by telling him other than suffering. Says theres a "zero percent chance" she is going to sleep with anyone other than Dad the rest of her life.
I was so happy yesterday. What the hell happened? God damn I have been lurking on this sub for a while but until now, I dont think I realized the implications of swallowing the pill. Cypher was right fuck. I dont give a shit what happened, I just want to go back to yesterday. Give me the sweet tasting steak.
UPDATE 2) I see a lot of people advised that doing a professional test before talking to anyone would have been the best way to go. but I didnt read that before talking to my mom and she admitted to it so the cat is already out of the bag. the blood type still could have been wrong (hoping against hope this is true) but that doesn't change mom had an affair
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[–]Meat-on-the-table 61 points62 points63 points  (9 children)
Every man has a moment--or several,if life be so inclined--when the pill becomes real and seared into their mind.
This is yours.
[–]GrammerNaziParadox comment score below threshold-21 points-20 points-19 points  (8 children)
I'm pretty sure I found out the same thing a few months ago but just blocked it out of my mind, not worth blowing up the marriage at this point, especially considering how much my dad has sacrificed.
[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 19 points20 points21 points  (4 children)
Plenty of John Snows out there, with mothers trying to keep their cucked Beta Bux in the dark...
How do you feel about your mother now?
[–]GrammerNaziParadox comment score below threshold-20 points-19 points-18 points  (3 children)
The same way I feel about your mother, awalt asshole.
[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
No disrespect intended. You could work on holding frame. Anyways, my mother was from a different era, and she was a happy "slave" to my alpha father, but never particularly feminine or motherly to us kids.
[–]RedSugarPill 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Lol, classic response. You should have 100 points. /u/RedPillDad is one of the best contributors, but yours was the funniest possible response here :) Holding frame? c'mon. That was frame and game in a nutshell. The autists can't read sarcasm.
[–]Endorsed ContributorRedPillDad 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Yeah, I wasn't sure if his response was a butthurt beta whine, or a playful alpha bitch slap. No big deal, and not sure why he got the downvotes.
Lesson: Don't by into other's drama. Keep the jimmies smooth.
[–]Mildly_Sociopathic 5 points6 points7 points  (2 children)
Isn't that reason why you should tell him?
[–]sir_wankalot_here 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
Let's say you where on a combat patrol in the military, buddy steps on a mine which blows up and he is all fucked up. You know that he is going to die in shortly. There is nothing you can do.
He asks if you think he will be all right ? Obviously you will lie to him.
Probably one some level his father suspects or knows. Let sleeping dogs lie.
[–]RedSugarPill 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I don't know, you could go another route. I mean, after all, the man fucking raised the kid. If the kid figures it out, he could at least buy the man a stiff drink and thank him for shaping his life. If the DNA didn't make it, then perhaps some values made it into the kid, and dad's legacy will remain in the social fabric of society. If my son told me I was cuck-dad, after raising him for 18 years, I'd be pissed at the wife, but I'd be proud of the child that I shaped and raised. DNA is a lot, no doubt, but it isn't everything (if it were, then more than 40% of men would pass their genes).
[–]Nogaz 18 points19 points20 points  (3 children)
This was the actual reason given for why we weren't allowed to check our own bloodtype/DNA in uni. We can infer from that, that you probably aren't the first to find out this way
[–]grubek 22 points23 points24 points  (1 child)
Must protect the female imperative.
[–]Ryanami 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
Or, if I were that prof I just wouldn't want that drama going down in my class. Ain't my job to play Maury Povich.
[–]verify_account -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
This was the actual reason given for why we weren't allowed to check our own bloodtype/DNA in uni. We can infer from that, that you probably aren't the first to find out this way
Life in yuropooria.
Or is it just France?
[–]Paid_Internet_Troll 14 points15 points16 points  (2 children)
(1) Finish college before breathing a single word of this to anyone.
(2) Get a more thorough DNA test done by professionals, and... once again... don't say a fucking word to anyone until you've finished school.
[–]Archange_ 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I second this. You must take a professional DNA test to make sure your suspicion is true. Beside mistakes in a lab class for freshmen, the A-B-O system has anomalies: cis AB and h/h blood groups are well documented examples.
[–]ELXR- 27 points28 points29 points  (3 children)
Get the blood typing done by a professional if you can. I'm a pre-med student in my third year and every Bio lab I've done from general biology to upper division genetics and even in A&P, someone in my lab sections has fucked up their blood typing causing agglutination to appear in the wrong areas.
What a shitty situation to find out if so, but like the above poster said, every man will have the moment when TRP truths are seared into their mind. Best of luck on your journey brother.
[–]AOF_Semiramis 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
I'm a pre-med student in my third year and every Bio lab I've done from general biology to upper division genetics and even in A&P, someone in my lab sections has fucked up their blood typing causing agglutination to appear in the wrong areas.
Its like that there too? Guess i should stop giving my coursemates some flak for how incompetently shitty & idiotic they are,i guess..
(Rule 38 btw,always remember that)
[–]ELXR- 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I can relate though, I think it's a combination of undergrad incompetences, science major cockiness, and TA's who don't give a shit and only signed up for a resume boost.
[–]ArkAngelEV 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
can confirm. Most bio labs run by fucking drunk interns working for college credit. No fucking respect to cleanliness procedure with fucking dorito chip dust all over
[–]qdegtjulo 14 points15 points16 points  (2 children)
I'd advise you to finish college and then confront your mom. Say you figured out he's not your dad and you want to know who is.
[–]sir_wankalot_here 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
Actually this is the best advice.She is the guilty one.
[–]RavelsBolero 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
But I don't want to hurt him either. He is very happy in his relationship with my mom.
Your mom is a cunt. There's no two ways about it. Tell him.
[–]Attentive1 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
Confirm by checking your little brothers blood type.
[–]eddiae 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
your mom went chad shopping while your dad was BB, she chose a hot artist for your little brother, then an athlete jock for you, maybe a hot ceo for your sister ? as long as your dad doesnt know he can be happy right ? even fucking virgin mary cucked joseph and said it was god that fucked her in the bible, women can rationalise anything no matter how ridiculous or cruel it may objectively be.
[–]verify_account 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
even fucking virgin mary cucked joseph
I've pointed this out before. It's well believed that Jesus as a real person, and since most of us don't believe in space magic, that means Mary slutted it up with a local Chad and claimed that she impregnated by magical space aliens.
Millions of people are okay with that cucking to this day... Christianity stems from one of the greatest cuckings in history. Think about that when you see people going to Church every Sunday.
[–]TattedGuyser 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
A lot of people are focusing on your dad, but personally I see this about you. You need to know if he's your real father and if not what kind of genetics you inherited from this other guy. Histories of mental illness, heart disease or whatever else under the sun can be devastating and being prepared for them is important.
[–]twatbutter 8 points9 points10 points  (11 children)
I think that most, if not all, men here can see AWALT in their own mothers to some extent, though we elect not to since we have love/respect for our moms.
In any case, I would still advise you to tell him about it even if you think it will ruin his happiness. He'll always be a dad to you, but if you love him, you would tell him the truth instead of making him live obliviously.
[–]grubek 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
I would try to pay for a full DNA test before releasing the shitstorm. At least have the blood sample analyzed professionally. DNA tests are not that expensive and it should be easy to get a sample from the father if they live together.
[–]throwaway912248[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
I already wish I could go back and not take that blood time, not call my mom, not know the truth. I realize how stupid this sounds. But god damn. Maybe life is too short to spend fighting in zion. Between the minute by minute agony of knowing, I really would rather be happier. I dont want my Dad to go through this either.
That being said do I have a moral obligation to tell him or a moral obligation to NOT tell him? He might be dead in 20-30 years and if he's happy now with a cheating bitch, as long as he doesn't know and is happy maybe its better that way.
[–]VoyPerdiendo1 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Do you care about his happiness? Do you want him to be happy? It is not a hard question actually.
[–]twatbutter 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
That being said do I have a moral obligation to tell him or a moral obligation to NOT tell him?
Yes, you do-- let me explain the rationale here. Blue-pillers will tell you to save your father some sorrow and keep him ignorant. After all, he probably is happy as he is. But he raised you with his own sweat, blood, and tears-- he deserves to know the truth, no matter how hard it is. Do it and accept the fallout-- just remember that YOU are not to blame, but your mother is.
Before you do it, though, maybe try to do some genetic testing first to confirm your suspicions, though the blood types do seem pretty damning.
[–]Howlgram 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
you have two choices. Tell a man a lie and watch him live happily the rest of his life, or tell him the truth and watch him go into depression. This is the only way in which he will be affected by this information. Why would you pick the truth?
[–]sir_wankalot_here 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
Most of the guys here are still going and idealistic. 25+ years ago I would have agreed with them. If he tells the truth it will not end well.
[–]throwaway912248[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
I am leaning this way right now
[–]twatbutter 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Because hiding from the truth is the blue-pill choice here. He deserves to know that he raised Chad's bastards, and that his wife pulled the most hurtful trick in the book on him. Oblivious happiness is not happiness at all.
[–]ljsjdoj009e9we 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
I don't see AWALT in my own mother, in this case sadly. I wouldn't mind having better genetics.
[–]twatbutter 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
AWALT in my own mother
Just remember that female hypergamy doesn't mean a woman is a lying, cheating, bitch-- it's just a propensity that's controlled by various factors.
[–]tompanz 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
I woulsnt go nuclear just yet. I'd get an official test done if you can. Do you look anything like your dad?
[–]throwaway912248[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
not especially. people have always said ive had my moms nose/eyes/whatever.
[–]Dustin_Bromain 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Oh man dude.... You've got a lot of thinking to do. I'd really try to put yourself in your father's shoes if I were you... Do you think he'd want to know?
[–]gadelat 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
he adopted two of his wifes children
Something tells me he knows you are not his biological son already and he is fine with that. Lot of parents who adopt children opt to not tell their children that they are adopted.
[–]throwaway912248[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I refuse to believe this. He was WITH my mom when I was born. No one could possibly be happy and ok with KNOWING someone they are with cheating and having another son. I can understand how he'd be happy not knowing, I refuse to believe that he is happy knowing.
[–]BradLightningRooster 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
Look on the bright side. You got the good alpha genes from Chad and got the nurturing and resources of Beta Bill so you have the best chance to succeed in the world. It sucks for "dad" but your mom did you a favor. You have TRP so you don't end up in the same boat as he did.
[–]throwaway912248[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
How exactly am I supposed to not end up in the same boat? Seems like no matter who I choose they will eventually cheat.
Maybe DNA test my children? But that seems like just asking a question you really may not want to know the answer to
[–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Maybe DNA test my children?
Absofuckinglutely. In the past, when girls mention having my kids, b/c hey, they want my splooge, I always tell them, point blank, I don't care if we've been marooned on a desert island for a year, there WILL be DNA tests.
[–]redThrow10 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
There are times in life when we are faced with questions that we aren't sure we want to the know the answer to.
Humans have flaws. Your parents included. Accept that fact. And ignore it. You have no control over it.
You don't really need to know the answer to this question. So don't bother. There's nothing you can change about it anyway.
Focus on finishing the lab report. Get on with your life. Try to be less flawed than you were yesterday.
[–]throwaway912248[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
There are times in life when we are faced with questions that we aren't sure we want to the know the answer to.
Should we ask these questions or not?
[–]AlwaysBeHungry 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
There can be a one in a thousand chance or something like that where it can happen. Something similar happened in one of my classes but the dad got a paternity test and it came clean, it is just very rare. Obs may not be the case here, but in any case you should get a fully legit paternity test done in case
[–]Endorsed ContributorMattyAnon 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Get a proper DNA test. Right now it looks bad, you assume it's bad, so take the chance to get the facts straight. No real downsides to this.
As regards going nuclear with your family... you don't have to. And if you are going to, do it later rather than sooner, because it's a one way trip. You can't take it back.
And... your father might know already.
[–]redsfan277 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
Holy shit...the cynic in me says confront your mother and tell her WTF.
I would not stand for bullshit like that from women EVEN if it was my own fucking mother.
Holy shit AWALT indeed
[–]The_Man11 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Don't go the blood route. Do a DNA test.
[–]Endorsed ContributorNightwingTRP 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Repeat after me gentlemen, AWALT.
Even. your. mother. All women.
[–]1TVTestPattern 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
What if this turns out to be true and your actual father has a heritable genetic condition that could affect your own health?
Or the health of your future kids?
You need to know...
[–]TheMGhandi 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Worst case scenario he's not your father. It still doesn't change the fact that he raised you. Don't be one of those morons who completely disregard a man who helps raise them for a biological father who can give two shits if you're dead or alive.
Best case scenario you botched your experiment and/or DNA testing is the only reliable source to determine paternity.
[–]AlphaBroMan 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
Are you sure this is not a situation of Cis AB?
Did you do front type and back typing? If you just did one without a control or some other check I wouldn't put a ton of weight in your result.
[–]yomo86 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
This 100%. Back in the day 60s - 70s until DNA testing became a thing for the masses or at least an affordable thing. Bloodtesting had only 60% success rate of proving fatherhood. This assumes the blood type determination was done correctly. Every year several people die because they get the wrong blood due to bodged blood type determination.
Get an DNA test man.
[–]poclitically_corekt 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Paternity by blood type is fraught with issues and is among the least reliable means of determining it. There is no telling what kind of quality control was done on the reagents and tube based immunohematology requires a lot of skill and knowledge. That said, it's easier and cheaper than ever to hit the paternity red button with virtually 100% accuracy if you want to. (I'm a clinical laboratory scientist who spent a lot of time in a blood bank reference lab. It's deep shit--way too much for a reply)
[–]2wantonton 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
From what you say, it seems your father isn't concerned about the biology of "his children." It also seems that he's well aware of the relationships he's entering. What's to spring on him? That he "shouldn't" be ok with it? TRP is amoral. It's about knowledge, not shoulds and shouldn'ts. Lastly, if you're not "his" what makes you think he doesn't already know? He's already shown a willingness to knowingly raise another man's kid as his own.
[–]0xdada 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Telling your father what you have discovered could kill him. It's been like 20 years of lies that he has built his life around.
Ask yourself what you would get by confronting them. Sorry to say, you need to own it and sit on this.
Mothers tend to outlive fathers anyway, so you can burn her with it after he goes. Thing is about women is that the longer you sit on something, the more freaked out they become, because narcissists can't comprehend people thinking and feeling things they don't. Down the road, when she learns that this part of your life has been closed to her for that long, it will be all the justice you could want. But for now, STFU.
That your father is still with the her suggests that he is a good, if misguided man. Blurting it out to him will be a bitch move.
I can see how a lot of guys would say, "no man, you have to let the truth come out." You have a home rolled blood test and some uncertainty.
Sadly, it is on you to be the man in that family.
[–]raisins3142 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
If accurate then blood typing is legit. Besides that most intro bio labs act like common polygenic traits are monogenic. You have kids thinking their dad was cucked based on eye color which is silly. Beware a lot of intro stuff is simplified to the point of being wrong in a sense.
[–]TheRedStoic 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Go get it professionally done.
My dad taught for 36 yrs and stopped this exact test because of the sheer commonality of fuck ups.
Half a dozen fucked marriages and a few dozen mistaken drama fests later he just dropped it entirely.
[–]Profdiddy 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Blood typing isn't that simple. Other alleles can complicate it, this is why is no longer used for paternity. Google it.
[–]hva_vet 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
You can only be certain of your maternal parent. I've been through something similar and I ended up paying for a DNA paternity test. The new paternity home DNA kits are around $70 but you need a buccal swab from the potential father. It gets a lot more expensive if you want to use hair or other clandestine DNA specimens. In my case my dad willingly submitted a swab. The test confirmed he is my biological father btw.
So the lesson here is AWALT...even your own mother. In my case I know my mother stepped out on my dad at least once because he's a beta chump. There's always been a huge amount of tension between my dad and I, and only through deductive reasoning did I come to the conclusion that he might have possibly believed himself to be a cuck. When confronted my parents spilled the beans about my mom's affair and it was indeed very close to the time of my conception. They seem to have known the math a little too well from back then so it was obviously a concern of theirs for all of my life. The DNA test seems to have calmed that background doubt of theirs once and for all. For that I'm thankful but I wish they wouldn't have lived such a lie for all my life because it really wasn't all that convincing now that I look back.
OP, this is something you must reconcile in your own mind. If you must know for certain, you can, but only through a DNA test. If you do not want to breach this topic with your dad then you need a clean clandestine DNA sample and it will cost you several hundred dollars. If my dad didn't give up a swab it would have been worth it to me to know; and I was willing to go that route, but collecting a hair sample or something would have been very difficult since I haven't lived with them for 25 years.
[–]throwaway912248[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
If my dad didn't give up a swab it would have been worth it to me to know;
I dont know if it is though to me. If I could do the test and the result would show he IS my bio dad, of course I would pay the money. My worry is that I do a test and find out something I really REALLY do not want to know FOR SURE.
I would rather hang on to a chance that he is actually my bio dad. Of course you say after having found out he IS your bio dad that you dont regret doing the blood type, but what if you had found out he isnt? What would you have done there
[–]throwaway912248[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
If my dad didn't give up a swab it would have been worth it to me to know;
I dont know if it is though to me. If I could do the test and the result would show he IS my bio dad, of course I would pay the money. My worry is that I do a test and find out something I really REALLY do not want to know FOR SURE.
I would rather hang on to a chance that he is actually my bio dad. Of course you say after having found out he IS your bio dad that you dont regret doing the blood type, but what if you had found out he isnt? What would you have done there
[–]hva_vet 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Honestly, it was a little more shocking to find out my dad was my biological father even though I look very much like him. He was not a very good father to me and I grew up basically hating him. I can understand better now why he treated me like he did. The doubt in his mind must have been ever present. It's the only explanation for why he treated me the way he did.
If the results of the DNA test went the other way, and he were 100% excluded as my father, I would have felt much the same. I would have been more upset about not knowing my own genetic ancestry more than anything. I was prepared to lie and tell him and my mother he was my biological father had the test been negative. This is a truth I could have lived with but I'm not so sure about him.
As it stands today, I'm more displeased with my mom than my dad even though he treated me like crap growing up. I can understand why he did and I'm sympathetic. My mom, on the other hand, had to know exactly why he treated me the way he did and she always presented the idea that she was an innocent mother and couldn't figure out why he was so abusive to me. The hamster, solipsism, hypergamy, and need for tingles is a live and well in our mothers. AWALT my friend.
In your case, you have a pretty clear indication that your blood type cannot have come from your father. You can't 100% exclude him with blood types like you can with DNA, but lets be honest with ourselves here. Throughout all of human history one can only be sure of their maternal parent. This is simply a reality of life. You may not want to go that extra step, and I understand and respect that, but this issue can come up in the future. It's unlikely but what if one of you needs to donate a kidney to each other.
In reality, your dad is your dad regardless of biology. He raised you and you are who you are largely due to his influence. Nothing can ever change that.
[–]-Tepes 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
You are heading the right way, its a lone walk I can tell, one I have not had to walk and would not want another to walk, the path is parallel to mine but I can see it joins at the very end, Keep at it, and know the truth must be reveled and exposed, Truth and Honor above all, But dont go at it over night, let it build up slowly, dont tip anybody off, do the tests professionally, then slowly bring up the subject, slowly go at it, eventually you uncover it and expose it, by then you must be all ready and set to walk or already miles away when you tell you mother what she is, and what your opinion of women in general is due to her.. you will have to walk away in disgust, but would you rather live and let your old man live a life based on lies of love? Whats saddening is most of these married js/nato military personal make some of the biggest betas in matters of women out there, what do you think their loving wives do when they are out for years or come home dead..yep. Bloody Disgusting..
This is the decline my friend, stay vigilant, stay calm and collected, enjoy and take all you can to your advantage, keep and open mind and go at it..
[–]MachoMonk 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Sometimes i guess this at myself for years. My bio mom has a history of cheating. I think AF/BB is super ingrained into the female psyche and the only way to get the better of it is to be the AF. Almost every girl dancing hard in the club, grinding on dudes and doing stuff. Is a shit testing chick in a relationship. If they don't get your name you can just have thousands of Cuck babies roaming the countryside
[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
i would tell him so he can have a kid of his own and dump the bitch. think about it this way, if you were him, would you be fine with being a cuck and your own "son" that you raised keeping you in the dark about your whore mother?
[–]throwaway912248[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
I would not be fine with that at all. Unless maybe I never knew about it.
[–]aanarchist 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
you're basically saying that if you had a choice, you would choose to stay plugged in. i'll be honest sometimes i feel the same way. you know what's the right thing to do, you also know that it's gonna hurt like hell for everyone involved, and you'd like to save your father the pain by keeping his eyes closed. that steak really is juicy though isn't it, at least that's what your brain is telling you...
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    [–]Trail_of_Jeers 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Uh, yeah, tell him. She will sleep with otger dudes, and is trying to protect her gravy train. Hard lesson, but AWALT, even moms.
    [–]Endorsed ContributorVasiliyZaitzev 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Said it was the only time anything like that happened....
    Riiiiiight.
    theres nothing that can be accomplished by telling him other than suffering.
    Well, that part is likely true, but it's also CYA for her.
    Says theres a "zero percent chance" she is going to sleep with anyone other than Dad the rest of her life.
    That's a lie. Unless she's really butt ugly or heinous b/c she's old, etc.
    explained that she wasn't feeling connected to Dad at that time
    AWALT, motherfuckers. A-fucking-WALT.
    I'd ask about your biological father for health reasons, i.e. if he has any family history of health issues that would be useful for you to know about.
    Are you going to tell your dad? I'm not saying "don't" but I would think about it long and hard before I did, especially if you love him and and if it will do more harm than good.
    I know two guys that something similar happened to as w/your dad. In each case the 3rd kid wasn't his. In one case the guys new wife was a medical professional and sniffed it out and then pestered him to get a DNA test b/c she was only too happy to expose his ex-wife as a lying slut. In the second case, the guy "knows" but he doesn't want to officially know. So think it over b/c you won't be able to undo it.
    From a purely dark-triad perspective, this gives you leverage on your mom. I would at least implement an "I think you should treat dad better" program.
    [–]phoducbiet 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    Blue pill, red pill moment here. If letting your father live out a lie doesn't go against your morals/integrity, then go full nihilist. Sucks to be in your position but this is a defining moment for you.
    [–]CDBaller -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
    Fuck, man... what a way to find out...
    [–]kez88 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
    Damn, that's pretty messed up. Maybe speak to your mum about it and see what she said. Maybe they had an open relationship and didn't tell you, maybe they were on a break when she conceived you, who knows. See what she says, then use that judgement if you want to tell your Dad or not I guess. If it were me in your dads position i'd want to know, but thats just me
    [–]die_gyuden comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points  (1 child)
    Don't assume anything. Biology is weird. Stranger things have happened. What you should do is nothing. Absolutely nothing. Forget about this subject and don't ever bring it up to anyone.
    If you can't help yourself, do the following: buy your parents 23andme tests for their birthdays. Buy yourself one, too. And when it's your dad's turn, you're going to use part of his 23andme cheek swab in a paternity test as well.
    And when you learn the results of the tests, whatever they may be, keep your fucking mouth shut. This is a genie you can't put back in the bottle. The knowledge is your burden. It's your cross to bear, no one else's.
    [–]blob6 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
    I agree, this is a genie not worth bringing out
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