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Are conservatives okay with full time workers requiring governmental assistance to live, as opposed to requiring businesses to pay these full time employees a higher wage - getting them off of assistance? (self.askaconservative)

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[–]diversity_is_racism [スコア非表示]  (24子コメント)

No. I favor eliminating the immoral and destructive welfare system and safety net entirely, and instead, allowing market forces to determine the value of labor. To protect the worker, we need freedom of contract and the reduction of regulation and unions so that American workers are competitive again.

[–]KitAndKat [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

To protect the worker, we need ... the reduction of regulation

I don't understand why this won't cause a return to unsafe working conditions like the triangle shirtwaist fire.

[–]Watertrap1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nobody is saying allow businesses to lock their fire escape doors... When a conservative talks about getting rid of regulations, we're not saying disregard common sense safety hazards.

[–]diversity_is_racism [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Civil law takes care of that.

[–]Alltruenews[S] [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Do you favor eliminating it when it means children will go hungry?

[–]diversity_is_racism [スコア非表示]  (15子コメント)

A large part of the problem is that many minimum wage workers are useless, as I see at Wal-mart all the time. The answer is to reduce protections for these workers so that the better worker can rise, and to deport those who are useless to us to Mexico.

[–]shhimhuntingrabbits [スコア非表示]  (12子コメント)

Wait, so you want to deport tons of people to Mexico? Mexico is not going to be too happy about that. Many Walmart greeters are old American citizens without enough retirement savings. You're going to dump them in Mexico?

[–]diversity_is_racism [スコア非表示]  (11子コメント)

If they're useless, yes. Win for everyone.

[–]shhimhuntingrabbits [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

... Except Mexico. This would result in war with Mexico.

[–]keypuncherConservative [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Why hasn't Mexico deporting their useless people to the US resulted in war with the US?

[–]shhimhuntingrabbits [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Because illegal immigrants from Mexico come to the US by paying coyotes to sneak them through the desert into shitty apartments in the US where they try to find work. They government doesn't pack them into buses or airplanes and drop them on our side of the border, because that would result in war with the US.

[–]keypuncherConservative [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

So you think the Mexican government has nothing at all to do with illegal aliens coming across the US-Mexico border.

[–]shhimhuntingrabbits [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

That's not what I'm saying. It appeared /u/diversity_is_racism seemed to be suggesting that we officially deport American citizens en masse across the border to Mexico. Instead, it appears they're suggesting that we cut all welfare programs and leave them to their own devices, and hope they sort themselves out. While I think that would still lead to massive civil unrest, it's slightly less irrational than the government trying to deport Americans somewhere else. The Mexican government certainly does not have an official policy where they round up people unable to pay their way and put them on American land, because, again, there would be war.

[–]diversity_is_racism [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It appeared /u/diversity_is_racism seemed to be suggesting that we officially deport American citizens en masse across the border to Mexico.

That's effectively what Mexico has done with these illegal aliens.

[–]diversity_is_racism [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Hah! Good point. Maybe Argentina instead?

[–]shhimhuntingrabbits [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Do you honestly believe you could round up and deport literally millions of American citizens without it A. Costing much more than welfare programs and B. Inciting civil war?

[–]diversity_is_racism [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes, because welfare programs are hugely expensive, and because "rounding up" is not required. Cut the affirmative action subsidies and other benefits and watch people self-deport. The rest will find it hard to get anywhere in life without citizenship.

[–]diversity_is_racism [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I am aware that this sounds cruel. Like many things in our world however, what at first seems cruel turns out to be kind because it is more realistic and ensures that those who put in the effort are rewarded over those who do not.