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Reconsidering taking fiancee to Bavaria after migrant crisis. Can any Berchtesgadeners/Munichers advise? (self.Munich)

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Hi friends,

I have visited Germany many times in my life; it is my favorite place in the world. I especially love Fuessen and Berchtesgaden. I want to take my fiancee to both cities, and to Munich.

However, my fiancee is very attractive, and very blonde - she gets comments in America all the time. I am a little bit concerned for her/my safety in Berchtesgaden and Munich. I'm an American so I don't know what's true and what's not about the migrant crisis, but I hear that Berchtesgaden has really been overwhelmed.

When I'm in Europe I take the Euro Rail everywhere and travel on public transport. My German is very good for an American; I took courses for several years. I've never had a problem anywhere there. It seemed quite safe last time I went in 2013.

However, this migrant crisis has painted a different picture for me, and now I'm wondering if I should bother taking my fiancee.

What do you all think? Is the violence and harassment really overblown? Or is it the truth?

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[–]Bonig 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nothing really changed. Before the so called crisis the city used to be crowded with arab guests as well, it's just that they had more money, they were mostly saudis instead of syrians, and we called them tourists.

Also we had misbehaving muslim adolescents before the crisis. The news just didn't make it into international media until now.

Munich is a particularly safe city. I work late and I walk home alone or take night busses and S-Bahn. You don't have to worry about your safety.

[–]Vitus_VIII 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

What violence? Seriously there is no more or less violence than last time you visited. It's only that the media focuses on all the little things and especially internationally blows it up a lot

[–]Hauptbahnhof 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

you won't notice any difference.

[–]EastOfEden_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes we're all living in fear here, this is literally Syria, I can't take the U-Bahn without having to fend off hordes of Arabs trying to grope my girlfriend/mom/daughter and steal my purse. We have lost our identity, this is an invasion, a downfall, nothing will ever be the same.

Seriously though, how would you feel if I went and told you I'm reconsidering my trip to the US because I'm deadly afraid of getting shot for no reason by one of your policemen, since I read about that in the news?

Very little has changed here, there have been problems but they're blown way out of proportion and over-echoed by people with an agenda, especially the American press, which is only interested in shocking news and not in actual analysis. Mild violence happens all the time, except it's not reported and you don't read articles about it because it's done by other Germans.

[–]Nightmare_Tonic[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I told you that I was aware of conflicting accounts of the migrant crisis. I did not say I was convinced they were true. And if you are black you have a reasonably good chance of getting hassled by violent psychopath cops in the US.

[–]EastOfEden_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a bit more people begging in the streets, and the main railway station neighbourhood is a bit shadier than it used to be (then again it was never the place to be anyway). I'm not saying nothing has changed due to 1m refugees entering Germany, of course things have changed, that's a lot of people. But there is imo no ground to feel less safe walking in the streets of Munich because you heard of migrants harassing women in Köln for new years' eve. There will always be some "danger" when you're a tourist in a foreign country, most of it doesn't come from newly arrived refugees anyway, and Munich is one of the safest first world cities anyway.

[–]Bonig 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

a lot of people

No, it's not. 81 people sit in a bar. 1 person enters the room. World that really change anything?

[–]ElGnacko 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't want to sound like a dick, but your girlfriend is a lot more likely to get harrassed in the US than here. A lot of the incidents that made the news turned out to be lies. There were a few incidents, yes, but nothing out of the ordinary (except Cologne, but something of that magnitude won't be happening again soon).

Also the flow of migrants seems to have slowed down.