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My husband and I are very liberal and have tried to instill these values in our children, but it appears that we've been unsuccessful. My son is a very smart boy. He's sixteen years old and will be graduating high school in just a few months. However, my husband and I have noticed that he's been getting rather distant lately, not talking much when we discuss current events at the dinner table, and spending more and more time alone in his room. Yesterday, I finally got my chance to discover what was going on when he left his laptop unlocked and I was astonished at what I found.
My son's 'Pictures' folder is truly immense, containing many tens of thousands of images. Of these, roughly a third appear to be of standard meme and reaction images (although fairly obscure by the standards of an old fogey like myself), another third are of Japanese animated women, and the final third are appallingly racist. The epicenter of my son's racial hatred appears to be an image folder simply called 'Politically Incorrect', containing many subfolders, each laden with a particular variety of disturbing pictures. For instance, I was bewildered to discover that one such subfolder, entitled 'Rare Trumps' contains over four hundred images of Donald Trump with assorted pictures of walls and crying Mexicans. This obsession with an American politician is especially odd since my family lives in Canada, although my husband and I do often voice our distaste for the fiery bigot. Could our son be trying to rebel against us by joining some racist subculture?
Another alarming subfolder, ominously called 'Did Nothing Wrong' was completely filled with hundreds of images exulting Adolf Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Augusto Pinochet, and various other notable fascists. It would appear that my son is particularly fond of Pinochet, frequently associating him with helicopters. He also has an entire folder devoted to the life and work of a Nazi artist named Ben Garrison. Many cartoons depicting horrifically anti-semitic stereotypes and promoting the idea that the world is dominated by some vast Jewish conspiracy bent on the elimination of whites. There were also many pictures of this comically evil cartoonist in Nazi regalia, detailing the unspeakable acts of violence that he's committed against POC and calling for further atrocities. When I searched this character online, I found out that he's some sort of cult figure among neo-nazis. I'm worried that my son is being radicalized by some kind of right wing death squad terror group.
Open in his tabs was his twitter profile, where, much to my surprise, he has several thousand followers. My son has always expressed distaste for social media, so I never in my wildest dreams imagined that he'd be the owner of a highly active far right twitter account. His timeline is a bizarre mixture of ironic anime images and far right extremism that borders on schizophrenic. Naturally he follows Donald Trump, but it would appear that he also frequently gets into spats with who he refers to as (((merchants))). With new cybercrime laws coming into effect, I'm worried that my son could get in trouble for online harassment and hate speech.
It would also appear that my son is collecting pdf copies of reactionary literature, ranging from Mein Kampf, to The Jews and Their Lies by Martin Luther, to the complete works of Julius Evola and Kevin MacDonald. My husband and I are very glad to know that our son takes the time to read genuine books in this digital age, but this isn't quite what we envisioned.
Our son frequently has his headphones on while studying, and I had always been under the impression that he was listening to music. However, much to my surprise, his music library is almost entirely occupied by a white nationalist podcast called The Daily Shoah. I listened to portions of several episodes and it appears to be an orgy of self-congratulatory onemanupship of who can be the edgiest, where grown men spend three hours making holocaust jokes, mocking "dindu chimpouts" (their disgusting code for #blacklivesmatter protests), and ranting about how Jews control the media. They also appear to share my son's strange affinity for Augusto Pinochet. This kind of virulent and all-encompassing racism was completely unexpected since we live in a very multicultural area and most of the students in our son's classes at school are of Asian descent. We have always regarded our son as very intelligent and respect a certain degree of political curiosity, but this is far beyond the scope of what's acceptable. We want to respect his privacy, but we also want him to use his privileges responsibly. Withholding computer access is not an option given his academic obligations, but I think it's a good idea to restrict it as much as possible going forward. My husband is not so sure. He prefers a more subtle touch, avoiding direct confrontation and trying to gently steer our son in the right direction based on the knowledge that we've obtained of his double life. In fact, my husband is more concerned over the fact that nearly all of the pictures of women on my son's hard drive are of Japanese anime girls, with the only 3-dimensional women appearing in his 'Eva Braun' and 'Aryan Women In Wheat Fields' folders. Do you have any insights into how best to deal with our son's behaviour? Which approach is best?
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[–]Lazarus59 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
You could have at least used a throwaway.
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[–]EzBrzXTC 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
Judging from your history, you seem to care a lot about American politicians.
And if you're actually a parent, this is a laughably unbelievable overreaction.
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[–]Throwawaystartover 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
Sounds like he's browsing 4chan or some other anonymous board full of people who post nothing but what you've described. Ill share what another redditor posted with a similar problem but he deleted his post so I can't give him credit, "The worst thing you can do is punish the kid. The best thing you can do? Tell your kid that the reason you don't like him viewing stuff like that is because you don't want him to start thinking that the world is really like that, and that you know that he's just going to look at it anyway so you can't stop him and won't try. If you offer resistance, he's just going to push against it. "No one can hold ME back. Stupid parents." If you just let him know you're disappointed and then do nothing, he might start to feel like maybe it's not the best thing for him.
It comes down to guiding him, not caging him. Let him know what you want him to do with his mind and what you don't want him to do with it, and then give him the choice anyway." I'm like 99% positive he's on 4chan and probably browsing /b. Just let him know how disappointing it is that he is looking at such things, and that even though it may seem cool to people on the Internet, it's not. Encourage him to stay off the computer.
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[–]TheBravestFart[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
What is 4chan?
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[–]ClonesDream 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
It's a place exactly 5.43 times worse than Reddit, where people post stupidly offensive, racist and otherwise unaccaptable pictures and comments.
It's a place where you either grow skin and learn to go along and enjoy yourself, or get completely annihilated.
I'm guessing your son spent time on 4chan. Just tell him not to go on that website anymore.
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[–]jesusprice 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Kek
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[–]Gotitaila 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Your kid doesn't have to believe the way you believe. Let him live and learn things for himself.
You are overreacting. Should have seen some of the things on my own computer around 2005. You'd have dropped dead if you'd been my parent.
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[–]AugustusCaius 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
Idk if this is troll but this appears to be the work of 4chan.org/pol the first thing you need to explain to him that it's all a big joke. Ben Garrison is a libertarian and they ran a smear campaign against him. Most ppl on pol are not serious. It's all just trolls, explain that to him and tell him to stop being cancerous and edgy, that should reach him, also tell him to get a girlfriend and live in the real world. On the other hand he might just be trolling and find it hilarious.
Edit: I'd appreciate to see the rare trump folder actually dump the memes and /pol/ folders I need to see them to be sure
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[–]Steve_Wiener 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
(yes they are)
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[–]SH4RK_SANDWICH 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
sit there with him and make him jerk off to every picture.
that's the only way.
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[–]SugeRay comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points  (1 child)
Do you know that you are a piece of shit for invading your son's privacy in the first place? I have to wonder how many times you and your weasel husband tried to snoop around only to be denied by a password lol. I bet you are the type who thinks you have the right to be such a nosey lil stooley but you don't and you should be ashamed of yourself. By the way your kid is not hurting anyone by laughing at Mexican and trump jokes while enjoying cartoon titties. Give the kid a break and if you have any soul left at all you should go apologize and mind your fucking business next time.
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[–]anon0108 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
WTF are you, 14?
Parents are responsible for their children. Food, shelter, clothing, education and a whole lot of other stuff until they are legally adults.
That means yeah, they can go thru the things they have bought and given to their son. Partly because they provided this stuff for him and it's basically their's and lots of kids exhibit shitty judgement because they lack life experience.
Don't like it? Get the law changed. But don't give the OP shit. How they raise their kid is their business.
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