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[–]GreenGlowingMonkey 93ポイント94ポイント  (35子コメント)

Holy crap! A year of paid maternity/paternity leave! I want that! Well, I did when we'd just had my kids, although I'd take three years retroactively.

EDIT: Fat-fingered some punctuation.

[–]jgoette 47ポイント48ポイント  (23子コメント)

Whether or not people can realistically take it and still have a job is another question... 😉

[–]Moewron 53ポイント54ポイント  (21子コメント)

If a company offers it they're pretty much on to hook to make sure the person still has a job.

[–]8bitz 29ポイント30ポイント  (8子コメント)

In Canada, a year maternity/paternity is standard. You get a portion of your salary for the year, and some companies top you up to 100% salary.

[–]PeachesMerkin 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah, we have it pretty good here. You have to work a minimum number of hours to qualify first then maternity leave is paid to you by the federal government at ~55-60% of your wage. Good employers will offer a "top-up" to 95% of your wage, or higher.

[–]hashtagonfacebook 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is there something stopping you from having a kid every like 12 or 14 months and getting this pay ad infinitum?

[–]adreamtomeat 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah must people don't want to continuously produce children: it's painful, expensive, time consuming.

[–]MemeInBlack 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not to mention, for every year of 'free salary', you now have another 17 years of debt and obligation (without college assistance).

[–]PeachesMerkin 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I suppose not. If you put in the work hours, you earn the coverage. Not much of a scam, though, is it? 12 months off work at *60% pay in exchange for 18 years of child-rearing? You save more money and effort working and not having kids.

*I work at a government agency and until we unionized a year ago, we had no "top-up" agreement with our employer. That's a fairly rare thing.

[–]SpaceSteak 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

You need to have been working a certain number of months (6+ depending on region) before you reach the full 50-60% of maternity pay. Nowadays, it's also really rare for people to have more than 2-3 kids so not a big problem.

[–]eddiexmercury 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

There was a story on NPR about their leave policy. The CEO (I think) was talking about how they demand the best from their employees and in turn they give the best back. However, if you come back from your year of maternity/paternity leave and are not producing at a higher level than before, you likely won't have a job.

[–]PVgummiand 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why would you be producing at a higher level after the leave than before? If you're already doing "your best" you can't be expected to do better.

[–]eddiexmercury 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I remember correctly, they let people go who don't continue to improve. They fire people for stagnation and, after that year, you're gonna be pretty far behind the rest of your colleagues.

[–]realblublu 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

That is an exactly perfect excuse to use if your company fires people for taking their maternity/paternity leave.

[–]jgoette 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

Oh how naïve you are.

[–]convenientgods 10ポイント11ポイント  (5子コメント)

Getting downvoted for speaking the truth. There's usually some form of peer pressure to compell people to not take full leave or come back early. And countless horror stories if you do any research where people come back to work to find they have effectively been replaced and are slowly phase out of the company in one way or another.

[–]swccggergall 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Once you come back, why would the company want to slowly phase you out? They've already paid you your free year, they may as well keep you around at this point.

[–]convenientgods 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

Because you didn't help the company during your leave, which they resent, and likely they found someone to fill your void in the dynamic, so why continue paying you to stay around when your role in the company is now redundant? When you're on leave you're basically a leech as far as a company is concerned from a business perspective. It's not the same everywhere but I think you're under the mistaken impression that large conglomerates actually see their workers as people.

Edit - as for the "slow" phase out, that way they're off the hook because they can't actually terminate you for taking leave, and they have to legally give you a job when you get back. But once you're back they can keep you out of the loop and devise some logical reasoning for why you're no longer a good fit for the company.

[–]Auntfanny 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Must be a US culture thing because people take a year out paid for maternity in the UK with no problems

[–]convenientgods 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably. I'm from Canada but I've heard about it happening in the US more than anywhere else.

[–]VusterJones 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's like companies that offer unlimited time off. When it's unlimited people are too scared to take time off. When you have just a couple weeks you're encouraged to use it all.

[–]masthema 25ポイント26ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's always confusing to see comments like this while living in Europe. Part of me is like "duh, of course you get maternity/paternity leave, you're an employee not a slave". Then I remember the majority of redditors are from the US. Some of your laws are really backwards.

[–]kuury 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

It is what it is.

It's also kind of a raw deal for employers to be required to pay double someone's salary to pay the employee and their less competent replacement because they chose to have a child.

[–]SpaceSteak 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, as long as everyone does it, then it's mostly net benefits for society and employers don't lose out more than any other. I find that the whole anti-maternity leave crowd is really short sighted, and has a hard time grasping the future benefits of having healthier, smarter children who are well taken care of by their parents.

[–]masthema 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree, but that kid will grow up in our society. Both me, my employer and the state are theoretically happy to help the society get a functioning, happy member. Theory is financial stability coupled with a year of bonding with the kid would cost less in the long run for everyone because the family has better odds of not breaking apart in that critical time.

But I'm not judging, it's a cultural thing. Socialism mostly trumps capitalism here(in theory). Some good things, some bad. No such a thing as best system, I think.

[–]2762 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

lol, at least we don't have sharia law. Enjoy your rapes and terrorism.

[–]noposters 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Netflix is also notorious for laying people off pretty viciously, including for taking their maternity/paternity leave.

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/08/28/435583328/episode-647-hard-work-is-irrelevant

[–]Korrk -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Scandinavia, baby.

[–]GreenGlowingMonkey -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

You guys got openings in nuclear power?