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Many times programs will install add-ons or unnecessary plugins without permission through the "full" or "typical" installation (note that these installations usually say "recommended" and that's how they get you.)
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[–]DevastatorIIC 273 points274 points275 points  (46 children)
You can install this software too: http://unchecky.com/
It will automatically uncheck all Potentially Unwanted Programs during installation. It's a godsend for family computers that you defacto support.
[–]Buck_Thorn 92 points93 points94 points  (26 children)
Does Unchecky install any unwanted software?
[–]DevastatorIIC 68 points69 points70 points  (13 children)
Just checked; no it does not.
[–]Buck_Thorn 35 points36 points37 points  (9 children)
Haha! I was just kidding, but thanks for checking.
[–]Fineus 17 points18 points19 points  (8 children)
Who checks the checker? (And indeed, who's going to check that guy).
[–]glitteryballs 21 points22 points23 points  (3 children)
You better check yourself
[–]Fineus 67 points68 points69 points  (2 children)
Instructions unclear. Wrecked self :(
[–]cATSup24 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
Better watch yourself before you botch yourself, guy.
[–]timstm 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Ya better touch yoself before ya nut yoself.
[–]luckycharms7999 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
Is there a never ending chain of mailmen delivering mail to other mailmen?
[–]nonameworks 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Who checks the compiler?
[–]jai_kasavin 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
We must use Avengers Assembly
[–]13lackhebi 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Batman?
[–]orbitalfreak 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
Shouldn't you have unchecked?
[–]iceman58796 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
You can't uncheck without a check.
[–]Spore2012 -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
unchecked*
[–]unforgiven91 6 points7 points8 points  (10 children)
It's just unwanted shit all the way down
[–]FreeSurgery -2 points-1 points0 points  (9 children)
It's just unwanted shit turtles all the way down.
FTFY.
[–]phenomenomnom -2 points-1 points0 points  (6 children)
That was the joke.
[–]FreeSurgery -2 points-1 points0 points  (5 children)
That was the joke.
[–]phenomenomnom -1 points0 points1 point  (4 children)
The joke: that was it.
[–]FreeSurgery -3 points-2 points-1 points  (3 children)
The joke, was that it?
[–]najodleglejszy -2 points-1 points0 points  (1 child)
whoosh.flac
[–]OptimusSublime -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
I don't have the data to view this. Please compress it.
[–]IAmAWizard_AMA 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Just use Unchecky to take care of Unchecky
[–]DenenFX 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
Now these people will make checkmarks with "Don't install this stupid Adware" and because of Unchecky you will have it on your computer... :)
[–]mkll 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
It's smart enough to check if needed.
[–]communedweller 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
but then i wouldn't be able to blame the porn on being installed by a virus?
[–]Fiagro 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Nice find! I prefer www.ninite.com but it doesn't support every app.
[–]day-walkin-ginger 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Legend thank you!
[–]beefkiss 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Oh my God, thank you! You've made my life so much easier.
[–]Dexiro 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Seems dangerous to rely on that though, I've seen a few sneaky check boxes that say "uncheck to install software".
[–]rainbowbrite07 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Does it have to stay running all the time?
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    [–]NewStandards 15 points16 points17 points  (8 children)
    How hard was it to type parents??
    You even pressed a ' so you're now off by just one button.
    Look how many buttons you made me press!
    [–]TheGeorge 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
    It's called slang you pedantic funkmaster.
    [–]accomplicated 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
    pedantic funkmaster
    Calling that as my MC name.
    [–]TheGeorge 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
    I thought someone would get a nice laugh out of it
    [–][deleted]  (4 children)
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      [–]NewStandards 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
      shit, sorry man
      [–]kyzfrintin 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
      Renter? You mean tenant?
      [–][deleted]  (1 child)
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        [–]kyzfrintin -4 points-3 points-2 points  (0 children)
        If they are renting from you, no matter how often they pay the bill, you are their landlord and they are your tenants.
        [–]PMmeyourBitcoins 69 points70 points71 points  (10 children)
        Good advice unless you love Bing! Toolbar and thousands of things even worse.
        More criminal is how they sometimes make you click "cancel" to NOT install a toolbar, making normal people think they would be cancelling the entire installation.
        [–]Buck_Thorn 21 points22 points23 points  (0 children)
        Even if you love the "extras", they shouldn't sneak them on you. If I want the Bing toolbar, I can install the Bing toolbar. I'm smart like that.
        [–]Froggypwns 7 points8 points9 points  (7 children)
        The Bing toolbar is pretty nice, I love that it changes my wallpaper to match the Bing photo of the day. It also provides news alerts and email notifications, but most of that is redundant these days with Cortana being built into Windows.
        The Google Toolbar used to be useful years ago, but they haven't updated it or added functionality in years
        [–]Buck_Thorn 10 points11 points12 points  (5 children)
        It is totally irrelevant how nice or useful it is or is not. The point here is software that quietly installs extras for you.
        [–]moonspeakdj 11 points12 points13 points  (4 children)
        It's not irrelevant in this context because he was responding to a comment that said "Good advice unless you love Bing! Toolbar..."
        I don't think he implied any defense of these sneaky bundled installers, but merely provided reasons why he actually does likes the Bing toolbar.
        [–]Froggypwns 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
        Exactly. I was discussing what makes the Bing Bar great, as it was mentioned in the comment I was replying to. I was not discussing anything relating to the OPs post, hence it was not a top level reply.
        Bundled malware does suck, period.
        [–]Buck_Thorn -3 points-2 points-1 points  (2 children)
        "Good advice unless" What does loving the Bing Toolbar have to do with the OP's advice being good or not? Foisting software, no matter how great, on the unsuspecting is never good.
        [–]moonspeakdj 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
        It has nothing to do with it—that's why his comment was not a top-level reply to OP, but a reply to this one specific comment. It's slightly off-topic from OP, but it's relevant here in this one thread.
        And, again, nobody has defended the practice of foisting software on unsuspecting users.
        [–]Buck_Thorn 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        OK. You're the boss.
        [–]xxfay6 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        The one I liked was the last MSN toolbar before it became the Bing toolbar, it worked as intended and didn't have anything that I found useless. It finally tried hard and made itself useful before it got nerfed and made into the Bing toolbar and then the Bing bar.
        [–]derleth 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Bing! Toolbar
        Is that like Jeb! Bush? A forced exclamation point trying to drum up enthusiasm for something nobody really wants or is interested in?
        [–]Kliber 36 points37 points38 points  (18 children)
        You can as well install all your applications through Ninite. You can download a batch of applications for quick installation without going through each installer and unchecking everything.
        [–]AlbertIInstein 11 points12 points13 points  (16 children)
        Most people I know switched to chocolatey.
        [–]unforgiven91 10 points11 points12 points  (12 children)
        personally, ninite is less effort. i just check stuff. download the package and let it run.
        don't gotta run cmd commands
        [–]AlbertIInstein 6 points7 points8 points  (11 children)
        Typing "choco install googlechrome adobeacrobat pdfcreator -y" or "choco upgrade all -y" into my start menu takes less time that even getting ninite.com to render in my browser
        It's also nice to be able to upgrade my apps at once, where as I have to make a new ninite exe every time my choices change, and I have to remember exactly what I installed before if I want it to check for upgrades.
        [–]unforgiven91 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
        fair enough.
        for my standard users, i'd rather just use ninite since i only touch their machines like once a year for first time setups.
        if i was working it constantly i might make use of it.
        [–]AlbertIInstein 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        I can execute choco through psexec too
        [–]lulumeme 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
        Hey, can you guide me on how to install chocolatey step by step? I tried following instructions via powershell but it seems too confusing.
        ohh, I got it working. Updating chrome through it now, seems cool :D
        [–]therightclique 7 points8 points9 points  (1 child)
        If it's confusing to install, that's an inherent problem with the software, and hence the reason most people aren't going to use it.
        [–]cynoclast 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
        A thousand times, yes. No tolerance for excuses.
        If Apple can design software that 2 year olds can use (ipads), you can do at least a little better.
        [–]AlbertIInstein 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
        Chrome updates itself
        [–]therightclique 0 points1 point2 points  (4 children)
        Then you have to remember a stupid command for something that could be done with so much less effort.
        [–]AlbertIInstein 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        You have to open a web browser or find a saved exe. Install and upgrade aren't hard commands to remember
        [–]ChucklefuckBitch 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
        Commands take way less effort, dude.
        [–]cynoclast 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        I'm a software engineer that's been coding for 17 years, of course including a host of my own command line work.
        Commands are not way less effort.
        [–]ChucklefuckBitch 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Tell me, how would you update your Linux programs?
        If you had the same option in Windows, would you still prefer ninite?
        [–]CaptainJaXon 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
        As a developer on a windows machine, chocolatey is awesome, just awesome! I've switched to using babun instead of cmd so I've got pact, but still, it's great to have a package manager native to Windows.
        For people who don't know, a Package Manager is sort of like the idea of an app store on your phone, keeping things it downloaded up to date and getting their dependencies. The nice thing about them is that you can use them from the command line so you don't need to google places to download things.
        [–]najodleglejszy 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        I feel like it'd make me even more lost than I am right now, since some of the programs would get updated and some (that aren't in Chocolatey repo) wouldn't. currently I'm just running SUMo from time to time to check what needs to be updated.
        [–]therightclique -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
        Who cares about most people you know?
        [–]yeshualynn 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        ?! This is a thing I knew not of, yet is relevant to my interests.
        All my upboats for you, gentlesir.
        [–]JNWolman 6 points7 points8 points  (0 children)
        I suppose I'll just have to get the toolbars from my torrented porn and viruses then.
        [–]Replies_To_Threads 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        YSK that everyone who's tried package managers swears by them. There's one for Windows too, though it's not as inclusive as .*i.*x ones, but take a gander anyways, it's usable: https://chocolatey.org/
        [–]jawsgst 13 points14 points15 points  (24 children)
        This is wrong, you shouldn't ALWAYS select advanced or custom. too often, this can result in not all the correct things being installed correctly. choose this option if you know what you are doing or if the program or application requires it. This is not applicable to everything.
        [–]Svargas05[S] 10 points11 points12 points  (13 children)
        Typically the programs that would require advanced users are the ones you have to be careful about doing "Custom"
        Like Adobe suites or the Codec packs... which are usually already for advanced users.
        I'd think it's still pretty good general advice. Usually all options are checked to install when you click "Custom" or "Advanced" - they just allow for you to UNcheck.
        [–]somajones 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
        "Typically" and "Usually" do not equal "Always"
        [–]Svargas05[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        For the general user it would. Everyone else wouldn't need to be addressed...
        If you're an experienced user this post wasn't for you to begin with...
        [–]Baracka_Obama 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
        The advanced and/or custom option is for the program itself. All the junk stuff is generally presented before you even begin the download. If you pay attention before you click download, you don't have to go through the advanced options afterwards because that stuff won't be included in the download package.
        Source: I also work tech support.
        [–]Svargas05[S] -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
        This isn't the case for many programs, from my experience
        [–]Baracka_Obama 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        What kind of sketchy ass programs are you downloading? Lol.
        [–]Awesomebox5000 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Unless you pay upwards of $100 for a program you can pretty safely assume it's going to try to install something else on your computer. It's not so much an issue for enterprise users but rather home users that want to be able to make/edit PDFs without leasing your soul to Adobe or any number of tasks that can't be done on a stock copy of Windows. Like how ads started installing malware in the past few years, it's better to run Adblock and to check the advanced installation menu than to potentially waste hours or days trying to clean up software or deal with fraudulent bank/cc charges.
        [–]jawsgst 4 points5 points6 points  (6 children)
        I work in tech support and disagree.
        [–]Svargas05[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
        ¯_(ツ)_/¯
        Welcome to the internet, man...
        [–]loneblustranger 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
        You dropped this \
        [–]therightclique -4 points-3 points-2 points  (3 children)
        Yikes.
        You give shitty advice. Someone calls you on it. You shrug.
        Quality human being.
        [–]doinggreat 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
        Welcome to the internet, man...
        [–]Svargas05[S] 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
        The shitty advice aspect is subjective, though...that's what my shrug is about.
        It's the internet, there are clearly differing opinions...so yea....
        ¯_(ツ)_/¯
        [–]Limitedcomments 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        You should get that arm checked out man.
        [–]H4Kek 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
        Unless you are installing enterprise grade router firmware or some shit you are not going to messed up by selecting advanced.
        [–]ChucklefuckBitch -4 points-3 points-2 points  (0 children)
        You people are so misinformed, it's actually hilarious. No sysadmin would ever use the "default" install option on important software, and just assume that everything is in order.
        [–]mexicouldnt 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Yeah, i gotta say this was my first reaction reading this post too. i definitely see where OP is coming from but i don't think i would advise anyone to do this unless i was positive they were going to be familiar with the intricacies of every program they install.
        [–]ChucklefuckBitch 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Any setting that would have been used in the default install, will already be selected in the advanced menu. All the end user needs to do is to uncheck all the bing toolbar shit.
        [–]Awesomebox5000 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
        This is wrong, you shouldn't ALWAYS select advanced or custom.
        This is wrong. For a home computer you should always use the advanced installation. You won't know if the program is trying to install extra crap until its too late otherwise. For the same reason that home users should be running adblock, they should always at least check to see if a program is going to try to install shovelware. You don't have to untick any boxes in the advanced installation so if the program is only going to install itself and the components necessary to run, you just hit continue.
        99% of the time you'll have to untick a box for some shit you didn't want. And it's not like users go about installing new stuff multiple times per day. Adding 10-30seconds to your installation time can easily save hours of work trying to remove shovelware. It's the same reason I look both ways before crossing the street, I'd rather be safe than sorry and being safe takes almost no extra effort.
        [–]whitefang22 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
        I think he's coming from the standpoint that 'users' can't be trusted to correctly make the determination between what is and isn't necessary to run.
        [–]Awesomebox5000 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
        Users who don't know what they're doing will screw up the computer somehow anyway in the long run. Better to get everyone into good habits and at least prevent a few unwanted shovel/adware installations.
        [–]mxzf 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Exactly. I'd rather re-install software for someone because they accidentally unchecked a plugin, instead of having to hunt around and remove the malware that they installed because they didn't look at the options.
        [–]Mattyman01 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Ya, I think choosing "Advanced" or "Custom" in most cases allows you to select where to install, or in some cases what parts of the software to install. Normally I get a little "Hey do you want Bing, you stupid idiot!" popping up on the normal install wizard.
        Do I computer wrong? I just used my Bing search bar to look this up /s
        [–]MartinMan2213 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Just because I shouldn't have to always do something doesn't mean I don't always do it. I remember there being a time when "quick install" or something along those lines would just install the bare minimum. It seems though that today if you select quick install, you get everything install included drivers you don't need and additional bloatware.
        So while i shouldn't have to always do this, I do it anyway to make sure extra content isn't being installed that I don't need/want.
        [–]Bi9scuit 6 points7 points8 points  (5 children)
        Isn't this common knowledge by now?
        [–]PMmeyourBitcoins 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
        Tell that to my mom and grandmom
        [–]Bi9scuit 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Gawd, my grandparents still ring me up to this day asking how to send pictures in E-Mails.
        [–]Svargas05[S] 9 points10 points11 points  (1 child)
        Apparently not...
        [–]ChucklefuckBitch 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        Probably because of people like the morons in this thread insisting that the normal user should use the default options.
        [–]therightclique 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        No. Normal people have no idea.
        It's common knowledge amongst people that know how to use a computer.
        [–]PartTimeLegend 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Go install visual studio 2015 with custom and azure sdk. Now let me sit with you for an hour whilst I fix it.l
        [–]Metal-Phoenix 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
        This again? And now on ysk instead of lpt... <sigh> I eventually blocked lpt because it was just getting ridiculous and I HOPE this is not happening here too.
        Okay, you need to clarify that this applies to standard installations, NOT advanced software. If you choose to do advanced things when installing things like SQL and you DON'T know what you're doing, you WILL bork your install and good luck getting rid of it. Also, if you have no idea what you're doing when installing office, you're going to screw that up too.
        Alternatively, always check ninite.com to see if what you want is there. It will automagically do the install without crapware.
        [–]Svargas05[S] -1 points0 points1 point  (1 child)
        Never saw it in LPT, to be honest.
        And look, if someone's downloading and installing SQL software they should know better on what to keep checked and unchecked.
        [–]Metal-Phoenix 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Not if it's the first time they've done it, they wouldn't. :)
        [–]therightclique 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
        This is definitely not a good YSK.
        Normal people should not fuck around with the Custom install option.
        Anybody that should already knows about it.
        Normal people can't handle the responsibility.
        [–]Michaelmrose 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        "Custom" install rarely provides anything more than a choice of what folder to install the program to and a few checkboxes for optional features.
        The normal person procedure is to leave the location alone and install everything that sounds like a feature and ditch anything that sounds like a toolbar, free trial, or extra bs.
        If you can't figure THAT out its probable that you shouldn't be trusted to install software at all.
        [–]blackgranite 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
        They should click on Custom and make sure there is no BS toolbars and continue as usual
        [–]Baracka_Obama 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
        That stuff is presented as an option before you even download the program. It's then omitted from the download package so it's never installed.
        [–]mxzf 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Only with some software. Other places ask you mid-installation.
        [–]ChucklefuckBitch 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
        That is a bullshit comment.
        [–]JTskulk 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        lol proprietary software
        [–]zehydra 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        depends on what you're installing and where you got it from.
        If it's off a website on the internet then yes.
        [–]swennerke 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Then you have to remember exactly what I installed before if I want it to check the advanced options afterwards because that stuff won't be included in the wrong location or not install a component that they need.
        [–]Dubzil 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I've actually started to trust nVidia drivers, I haven't seen junk demos attached for a couple years, but I still check because I get the feeling they are going to wait for me to get lazy and then throw them back in.
        [–]edgykitty -3 points-2 points-1 points  (5 children)
        This is kind of misleading. For many programs Advanced or Custom installations really should be limited to people who know what they're doing. They may install in the wrong location or not install a component that they need.
        Add-ons are often a separate piece that they will try to sneak in. Somewhere in between all those Next buttons. The most important thing is to read what you're actually doing.
        [–]H4Kek 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
        That is something a sneaky dev hiding things in his freeware might say.
        [–]edgykitty 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        Unfortunately my tech skills are somewhere in between knowing what to do on a custom install and being able to a develop any software that would even be worth hiding something in.
        [–]MisterBuilder 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
        No. When you initiate a custom or advanced install the components that are required for the program to function are pre-selected in nearly every case. This momentary extra step allows a user to curate the list of intended installs for things that look out of place. Browser toolbars, computer 'speed up' programs and other software of the like.
        As a personal system technician (I repair computers for consumers) I strongly recommend this mode of action.
        [–]therightclique 3 points4 points5 points  (1 child)
        Have you just not met normal people?
        They have a hard time finding the next button, let alone navigating a custom install, which would only confuse them.
        You have to be able to think as somebody other than yourself for this to make sense.
        Yes, it's the right thing for you to do, but it's most definitely not the right thing for most people.
        Work tech support sometime to understand how people actually think. They suck.
        [–]edgykitty 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
        Yeah I think this is more what I was trying to get at. For those of us who DO understand what we're doing it is 100% the best option. But knowing people as I do now, and having screwed up some custom installs when I was a kid, it is not the best option for everyone. Of course the tech guy would recommend this, but if everyone could manage tech properly, he'd be out of a job haha.
        [–]skztr -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
        YSK: Don't install shady-ass software
        [–]BassSounds -2 points-1 points0 points  (2 children)
        How is the PC landscape nowadays? I dont see this problem on Mac much and I probably spent $20K on software last year.
        Thinking about why, Apple defaults to only allowing signed software (using SSL) to be installed. This can be disabled in Settings.
        [–]Svargas05[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
        spent $20K on software last year.
        Must be nice....
        [–]BassSounds 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
        I'd rather spend that on myself than work.
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          [–]SkaMateria -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
          The hell you babbling on about?!
          [–]therightclique -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
          What the fuck was the point of all that pretentious bullshit you just spouted?
          Oh right, it was the typical "I use Linux and am therefore better than all other human beings and I'm not self aware enough to realize this makes me like like a magnificent tool."
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