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[–]SiameseVegan 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

lol even when I was a massive statist I knew government was not there for efficiency.

[–]ZombieAlpacaLips 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

"It just doesn't make sense to have 18 fast food restaurants in this small of a town. We should cap fast food restaurants at 10. That way we won't have wasteful redundancy, and people will make better food choices!"

[–]HerrBBQ 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's scary that a lot of people would see that and go along with it.

[–]naturalethic 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I can think of someone in particular. A popular guy.

[–]momsbasement420 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

The role that government plays in creating market failure and inefficiency

[–]nickbsr3 26ポイント27ポイント  (4子コメント)

That makes me pretty angry tbh

[–]AG40 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Me too! Schools desire to push kids towards bad economics and socialism is frightening. Especially at the University level.

[–]berkeley42 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even in high school economics classes there is a push towards Marxism or socialism because of its "moral superiority" over capitalism. Brb while I blow my brains out.

[–]Reesespieces905[S] 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's no wonder so many people are completely brainwashed now. They have no choice after hearing this crap over and over day in and day out from people whose opinions are supposed to be educated and valid.

[–]MaunaLoona 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not just hearing this crap over and over again. Your diploma is held as ransom until you can regurgitate this crap back to them on papers and tests.

[–]sumant28 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

All economics that isn't graduate level is complete bullshit

[–]SLeazyPolarBear 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

The government does alleviate market failures sometimes. It just does so immorally and inconsistently.

[–]punxx0r 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

If my alleviate you mean "postpone, and increase in magnitude and scope"... then sure... yeah.

[–]DoesntSmellLikePalm 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd have taken banking classes in highschool if the teacher wasn't such a huge worshiper of the federal reserve

[–]usedpothead 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My economics teacher didn't know what the Federal Reserve was. (He taught so he could be the basketball coach)

[–]Catullus13 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Point 3 is just as bad. It's called Industrial Organization (IO). You get your pure competition to monopolistic competition. Basically sets up various models that we don't observe in the real world based on unrealistic assumptions then tells how the market "fails". Like what's "perfect information"? Oh, that thing that can't exist. THAT'S why we need a government -- because of all these inefficiencies and externalities. Oligopoly is even worse. Ask the question when has one ever not collapsed.

It's worth it though. You might use it in your career by learning what not to say in front of morons to trigger them.

[–]LargeSealife 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Maybe form your opinion of their argument after hearing it?

[–]PonaldRaul 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can't believe you got downvoted for this.

Even as an anarcho-capitalist, I recognize that there are market failures or other areas for Pareto improvements. Now, I believe that the state has no ability to fix those problems, but some people do, and their argument is fairly complex (just read Tyler Cowen's Public Goods).

The people in this sub are just replacing one form of ideological brainwashing for another. Even though I agree with the current rhetoric, that doesn't mean you should shut down your brain.

[–]LargeSealife 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah.. I understand that the point of this sub is to be an echo chamber; but we can't pretend to be defeating these arguments by just claiming they're wrong.

Also that syllabus looks like it's for a first year econ course but the op is acting like they have more knowledge of the material than the prof.

I was heavily into an cap before starting my finance education. But some arguments for government intervention are sound. Not saying that market intervention is not violating the NAP. But it can certainly be argued that intervention is a net economic benefit in certain situations.

[–]Reesespieces905[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I understand we're tolerant of others ideas and policies. I'm just frustrated with the fact that I already heard all of this stuff for a whole semester in micro and now have to hear it again on the first day in macro. The problem is them not wanting to give our opinion a chance. I mean seriously, it's the first day and we get a half hour rant about how without the precious government the market would collapse and everyone would die. No mention of any other opinion on the issue because if you believe otherwise you're a nutjob.

[–]LargeSealife -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I guarantee your econ professor will be willing to debate about whether or not government intervention is beneficial.

Need to realize that there might be a reason almost all educated economists believe government has a place. Chances are it's not just that colleges get funding from government; which is essentially the only rebuttle I've heard.

[–]Trasvi89 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I feel like you're not qualified to complain about the subject if you're only just starting your first economics class (is that secondary school or first year university?)

[–]Reesespieces905[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well it's my second economics class. I know i'm not an expert economist but the fact is that in both these classes I haven't heard a single point on the other side about how maybe just maybe the answer for everything isn't the government. No no no if you believe that you're a crazy person, government is the only answer to everything. That's why i'm frustrated.

[–]Trasvi89 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe once you attend the class you'll see that they say the answer to 99% of things is not the government (and they'll spend a lot of time talking about why): but there are cases where the free market is not mathematically efficient; or leaving the market to self-correct leads to undesirable outcomes in other areas.

[–]Euphemism 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is like you are living the nightmare of The Seven Lesson School Teacher..

http://www.newciv.org/whole/schoolteacher.txt

Indeed, without exploiting the fearfulness, selfishness, and inexperience of children our schools could not survive at all, nor could I as a certified schoolteacher. No common school that actually dared to teach the use of dialectic, the heuristic, or other devices that free minds should employ would last very long without being torn to pieces. School has become a replacement for church in our secular society, and like church its teachings must be taken on faith.

It is time that we faced the fact squarely that institutional schoolteaching is destructive to children. Nobody survives the 7-Lesson Curriculum unscathed, not even the instructors. The method is deeply and profoundly anti-educational. No tinkering will fix it. In one of the great ironies of human affairs, the massive rethinking schools require would cost so much less than we are spending now that powerful interests cannot afford to let it happen. You must understand that first and foremost, the business I am in is a jobs project and an agency for letting contracts. We cannot afford to save money by reducing the scope of our operation or by diversifying the product we offer, even to help children grow up right. That is the Iron Law of institutional schooling -- it is a business neither subject to normal accounting procedures nor to the rational scalpel of competition.

[–]FlacidRooster 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Intro Econ?

[–]Reesespieces905[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Intro to macro, I already took micro last semester.

[–]FlacidRooster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Figured. Gonna nitpick but market inefficiencies is technically micro 😂

[–]BeardedDragonFire 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Answer: No role and often is the actual reason for said failures, not the market.

A+

[–]InsaneWizard_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I took micro-econ last semester and here I am on the first day of macro-econ.

[–]Reesespieces905[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yep exactly my situation.

[–]jbbeefy57 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can't wait until I start my Macro class next week...

[–]RifleGun -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Creative writing class?