I sense Kentucky Fried Chicken taking from the U.S. Treasury with two hands.

I don't think we can consider him until he pledges more transparency about his 11 herbs and spices.

Oh, I know! Jim Webb!

His slogan should be something short and catchy though.. Something like "J. 'ebb!"

Wasn't Goldwater considered a crazy himself back then, or was that just what LBJ painted him as in 1964? Not that he wouldn't be a paragon of sanity compared to today's GOP, but still.

It's kind of a shame really. The modern GOP is definitely driving people (that's myself included) to the left. I like our guy here in Maryland, Larry Hogan. I think he's pretty decent and a week ago he put forward a $700 million dollar plan for rebuilding and infrastructure in Baltimore. He seems pretty pragmatic, and I haven't heard him say anything crazy or religious or anything like that. I don't think those kind of Republicans can get anywhere on the national stage anymore.

So why would any sane person support that party any more? Even if you disagree with the democratic party on a few things, isn't it more important to side with the party that doesn't flat out lie to get votes? The party that doesn't use hatred and racism to win votes. The party that doesn't sit on their hands for 8 years during the worst financial crisis since the great depression, just to make the first black president look bad. Even if you disagree with the democrats on things like abortion or gay marriage, aren't things like having representatives that actually listen to their constituents more important? These people are bought by corporate and billionaire bribes to represent them, and completely ignore you. I just find it hard to believe that people can willingly ignore what is happening within the Republican party, and pretend that hating abortion and gay marriage is more important. The economy is in shambles because taxes are too high? Every time we lower taxes, the economy worsens and the rich get richer. We raise taxes and things get better for the middle class. We've had a supply side economy since Nixon, and things have been slowly grinding to a halt ever since then. We're gradually returning to the days right before the great depression happened. And to end the great depression, we needed FDR, a socialist president. Even Eisenhower was a socialist, and he was a Republican.

I used to vote Republican in every election, and saw the democrats as the enemy. But the Republicans lost me. The democrats are not bad people, and despite what people like Limbaugh and Beck say, they want to make this country better.

For those not familiar, here's Goldwater's comment

I could even see leaning slightly republican. But the party went ape shit after they seen what happened to George h.w. after no new taxes. He was the last republican that gave a shit about this country. Every republican in Congress, and running for president would sooner see this country burned to the ground than raise taxes. They talk about how great the country used to be. Then ironically forget the richest among them were paying over 75% in income taxes. Now raising taxes means punishing people for success.

That's the side effect of gerrymandering. A safe republican seat these days means a safe tea party crazy seat. If you don't have to run against a Democrat you rapidly get threatened on your right flank by all kinds of nutjobs. Kasich mentioned this recently... he's came out forcefully against gerrymandering for this reason.

We're not talking about abortion here. We're talking about campaign finance reform. Something that an overwhelming majority of Americans want. Honest politicians as well.

The problem is that this is how they get re-elected. If they don't vote for it then they have the entire right-wing echo chamber that informs the Republicans turn against them for not having complete devotion to the party. Republican politics are all about loyalty to the party above all else. This paints any non-loons into a bit of a corner.

60something actually.

Don't forget, they aren't exactly acting in a vacuum here. Obamacare isn't popular nationally, and many republicans - especially the tea party caucus that's gone fucking stupid on the issue - were elected on platforms that centered on repealing it. The issue also continues to be among the most important to voters. It's dishonest to refer to it as "not a real issue".

The democrats are hardly blameless here either. This is the result of using every underhanded trick in the book to shove an unfinished bill through knowingly against the will of the people. It's disingenuous for the democrats to whine about the lengths republicans will go to try and repeal an unpopular law after democrats went the full monty to get it shoved through.

Sadly the result is a further ramping up of hateful, partisan politics - on both sides - that started escalating a couple decades ago. Im not a big fan of the ACA myself, but for very different reasons than the republicans. Still, it's stupid to argue the republicans shouldn't attempt to reverse it when their constituents and the country as a whole is telling them otherwise. Focusing on issues that the public cares about is what representative democracy should be about, and unfortunately Obama and the democrats assumed they knew better about what the public wanted than the public themselves. We now are living with the result of that haughty decision.

OWS failed miserably though. Besides getting some outreach and media coverage and tearing up Zuccotti Park, it achieved nothing.

Ron Paul.

Great comment to add to the discussion!

If you look at Florida district 23 and know anything about that part of south Florida this guy doesn't have a chance unless he changes his name to Canovawitz.

When I moved to Florida I just went to the DMV with a utility bill and got it when registering my car IIRC. It was pretty effortless and if I recall correctly they gave it to me on the spot and it didn't get mailed.

IANAL, but from my understanding, there is typically no minimum requirement. Wherever you consider your primary residence, you can register to vote.

It's more of a political...kerfuffle.

I don't think you'll ever go more than 2.5 years without hearing the term. There will always be several presidential candidates promising a revolution. Regardless of who wins this election in November, there will be more candidates promising a political revolution as the 2020 election season starts up in early 2019. The while thing is of course idiotic because congress makes the laws, so electing a new president will at best preserve the status quo of complete gridlock.

While a "political revolution" would certainly be a way to bring change to the government quickly, it's not the only way, and is pretty unlikely to occur. Should we try to make it happen? Sure, but you shouldn't be putting all of your eggs into that basket.

Because they use the word 'revolution' instead of 'electing someone that more aligns with our views through the already existing apparatus and infrastructure.'

It's only considered revolutionary to most Sanders/Paul supporters because chances are they'd never done it before.

Youre insane. We don't need to scrap a government that's been the model of representative democracy for the world for over 2 centuries when problems become apparent. Instead you use the tools within the constitution to correct the problems that have arisen.

Hell, if both sides would quit blindly following ever more extremist versions of their favored party like they were sports teams, we'd have half the battle won already. You can cry "revolution" Til your blue in the face, but you're not addressing the real issues.

This is the right answer.

Just to be a contrarian, this sounds like Trump

Everyone forgets Kucinich, but not me... I'll always remember him for his progressive policy.^{and his super hot wife}

Don't forget good ol' crazy ass Ross Perot!

I may be missing the point, but I think qustionsleep86 is voting for Bernie. Because policy.

That's why I donate to his campaign and support his campaign as much as I can. I just mean to make clear that it's not about Bernie, it's about the issues.

I LIKE MONEY

I absolutely think that reducing the financial barrier of entry to campaigning effectively would blow the door wide open to new parties, and independent candidates. There is literally nothing intrinsic to the system about the two party system, they are basically ad agencies for their respective candidates, only necessary because of the tremendous fundraising demands that are currently requisite to campaigning.

So how can we get her out of the DNC?

Who are "these people"?

The DNC chair is not supposed to favor one Democratic candidate over another against the will of the Democratic voters. If that is revealed to be the purpose of the DNC, then watch as it's members abandon the party in droves to become independent or form a third party.

They have been saying the whole time how evil she is for liking one candidate more than the other, while wanting the same exact thing for the guy they like. I wonder if they still consider that evil.

Yeah, shame on me.

Sounds good to me, but, as others have pointed out, I'm barking up the wrong tree.

I'm not sure I agree. In any given situation, most people will look for some kind of advantage that tips the playing field in their favor. One of the most effective ways to do this is to campaign or advocate for "equality".

The thing is, you could replace "Bernie" with "Trump" and your comment would read basically the same. Everyone sees their own political interests and agendas as being synonymous with those of "the people".

Both?

Ultra progressives is it now? That's a new one! The progressives who are so progressive that regular progressives are not progressive at all by comparison, I suppose. Why not just call us purple unicorns?

I'm not an ultra-progressive and I can't stand her. She's so clearly in the bag for Hillary, and for someone who runs an organization that's supposed to represent democracy she has done a very poor job of it.

That is a distortion of the facts surrounding opposition to the DNC chair. Most Sanders supporters entered this election season favoring Bernie but willing to settle for Hillary if she won the candidacy fair and square. But the DNC has actively suppressed and smeared the Sanders campaign, defying the will of its constituents and undermining democratic principles.