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01/06/16(Wed)13:10:56 No.322911595

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Anonymous 01/06/16(Wed)18:10:56 No.322911595 ▶

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Final Fantasy IX PC steam page is up

http://store.steampowered.com/app/377840/

Jesus christ those backgrounds

>>322911595 (OP)
Best FF

Time for a new modding project, I guess. Same thing's going on with FF7 as we speak.

>>322911595 (OP)
Just like FF7 and FF8.
They're 320x240 backgrounds, what did you expect?

>>322911786
What do you mean? The backgrounds simply ARE this shitty in FF9.
FF7, 8 and 9 use 320x240 prerendered backgrounds.
You can't make them look better.

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Well, that isn't jarring at all.

>>322911595 (OP)
>20 GB size
shit port confirmed

>>322911925
There's a modding project in the works over at Qhimm that's supposed to replace the backgrounds. That's what I mean.

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Nobody who knew a thing cared about the game itself in its retail form, everyone's excited about the modding that will follow.

If you don't mind me asking here, what would be the best FF to start with for someone pretty much new to the series? I got halfway through FFX back in the day but that's it.

>>322912146
Last time I checked it was the original backgrounds ran through a fucking horrible filter that made them look even worse.

Quote unquote best final fantasy
>those grafics

>>322912275
1, 2, 4, 5, 6, Tactics, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12.
In that order.

I haven't played FFIX since around release.
Did they update the models or anything here or did we just not notice how bad it was on our shitty CRTs?

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PC Master race wins again!

>>322912343
brotip: start at 6.

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>tfw they will keep re-releasing old PC ports and mobile ports to steam but not give us XV

At least Lightning Returns is finally on steam, pretty good tbqh familia now I can play it above 15 FPS.

Fuck me. Glad I picked it up a while back on the vita now.

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>>322911595 (OP)
preordered!

Did they found the source code or something? Just laying somewhere on a shelf.

>>322912480
All the games preceding 6 besides maybe 2 are good, no reason to skip.

>>322912343

>recommending 2 or 5

Found the blind idiot fanboy.

>>322912343
what madman recommends FF2?

>>322912635
>5
>bad

>>322912664
He probably means SNES 4

>>322912505
I can guarantee you that FF15 will come to PC within a year of its console release. They will delay it intentionally to make retards double dip.

>>322912343
>2
It's like you want him to quit playing FF

>>322912554
They either found it or re-coded it like KH1.

>>322912343
You meant 3, not 2.

>>322912275
If you want to play all of the important games.

V > VI > VII > IX > X > X-2 > XII in order not ranking.
X-2 has the absolute best battle system in the entire series and I liked the way the game is structured.
I'd toss Tactics/Tactics Advance in there somewhere if you want too, they're really good.

If you don't mind going backwards eventually I'd just start with VII or give X another go. X is my personal favorite.
If you don't like either of those for gameplay reasons I just don't think you'll like the series.

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>>322911595 (OP)
Whoa... so this.... is the power... of the PC!

>>322912754
Except he lists 4

>・Seven game boosters including high speed and no encounter modes.
I'm not sure how to feel about this.

>>322912626
While FF might've defined standard rpgs in some way, most older FFs are tedious and standard mediocrity.
Start at 6, go upwards, if you after that feel like going back to the oldies feel free to do so..
There really isn't much appeal in the older FFs to people who aren't familiar with the series in current times. Sorry to break it to you, but you got fanboy goggles on.

>>322913012
Just ignore it.

>>322912554
Rewrote the entire thing from scratch in Gamemaker.

>>322912757
I have a strong feeling it will come to PC, it would be retarded not to release it to PC ever but I can totally see that coming.

How much do you want to bet they will also stay completely silent about it for the first 3-6 months of the console release so people lose hope for a port? It'll become the next GTA V.

>>322912275
2, XIII, Mystic Quest, Spirits Within, and Tactics Advance

>>322912635
5 is amazing you retard bitch ass piece of human shit fuck you

>>322911595 (OP)
wow looks so wrong, they couldn't make the background look better?

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>>322911925
>You can't make them look better.
You can if you remodel everything and make new renders.

>>322912740
>>322913117
not him, but 5 is alright, but so many other games have improved on it's mechanics

>>322913103
I'm just curious what the other ones are.
The no encounters sounds kinda neat if someone wanted to do a low level Ozma run, so you're not relying on avoiding everything until you can get zombie/virus on you.

Looks just the same as it did before you retards. The only difference is the resolution. What did you think would happen with pre-generated backgrounds?

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>>322912635
>hating FF5

Jesus christ I didn't think it was possible to have this level of shit taste.

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Looks better than emulation at least. Pretty psyched.

>>322912308
That's a different one.

>>322913372
I fucking hate Vivi so fucking much.

>>322913179
Nobody is insane enough to do that

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>>322911925

the original renders are still lying around SOMEWHERE

but lol at japanese developers actually looking after their assets for later use

>>322913481
People are doing it right now. C'mon man keep up.

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>>322913342

>looks just the same
>the only difference is

>>322912923
>XI
>not important

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>>322913481
You underestimate autism.

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>>322913454

>Hating one of the only decently written character in the whole series

how

>>322913481
Ahem.

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=15975.0

>>322913179
That would actually require them to do anything.

Not gonna happen.

>>322913494

Not necessarily. It's pretty well known that Jap devs often just toss their work in the garbage once the finished product is released.

Fuck if I know why, but it's lead to this scenario too many times.

>>322911595 (OP)
the hd models and the muddy backgrounds really really clash

cash grab

>>322912554
Some guy in the office just found an old IDE hard drive and it happened to have the source code, and Square Enix started setting up the store page immediately following.

>>322913454
This is the worst opinion I've ever seen in my entire life.

>>322913494
The backgrounds were done by Square USA

>>322913372
>Looks better than emulation at least.
The models yes, but it's the tiniest part of the screen. The cgi backgrounds look way worse than they did with emulation scaling.

Didn't they lose the fucking source code for IX?

>>322913623
ded

>>322911595 (OP)
Square Enix releasing a no effort cash grab on pc? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT

>>322911925
>You can't make them look better
I can try to repaint them.
It will be very time-consuming but it's doable.

>>322913851
You can just play it single player. The stories are good

>>322911595 (OP)
The hd models look so out of place on those dated backgrounds

I didn't like ff9 and I don't play remakes so I won't be getting this. ff15 when?

>>322911595 (OP)
No way, are you saying a game that is also getting a mobile port has shitty graphics?

We have to contact the news, this is the story of the century!

>>322913854

Probably has an always online requirement just like VII and VIII too.

>internet goes out
>I'm gonna play some VIII
>an internet connection is required

Fuck, I'm still angry a year later.

>Steam description
>Selling over five million copies since its release in 2000, FINAL FANTASY IX proudly returns on Steam! Now you can relive the adventures of Zidane and his crew on PC !

Did the intern write this? It sounds so wooden.

>>322913481
>http://hownew.ru

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>>322913494
They could have just used a better resizing algorithm.
Not the perfect option, but it'd do.

>>322914014
Because those screenshots are in HD.

Play this in 640x480 and it will look perfect.

>>322912554
How do you even lose the source code for such a big game anyways?

>>322912757
I know I will. I need me some bishie goodness

>>322914146

They need to buckle the fuck down and find these original renders.

>paying for something you can emulate on the same machine

For what purpose?

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>find old shitty PC port everyone forgot about
>"Hmmm, I think we should add some new features"
>"I got it pham"
>take old shitty 320x240 backgrounds
>open up photoshop
>resize to 1920x1080 with a shitty Bilinear filter, not even lanczos (or even 6400x4800 to keep the 4:3 aspect ratio)
>do the same to FMV's
>"DUDE FINAL FANTASY IX HD REMASTER HOLY FUCK PREORDER TODAY GOYIM"

>>322914014
>The hd models look so out of place on those dated backgrounds

what HD models? There's just more detail on model texturing than on backgrounds. It looks the same in an emulator.

Now if we look up, we'll see >>322913454. This, ladies and gentlemen is an interesting breed of Objectively Wrong Opinious.

They are rare, but can be found alone in this area every now and then.

>>322912635
5 is one of the better FFs.

>>322914014
>I don't play remakes
It's a port

directx 11? motherfucking directx 11? why? i wanted to play that on my mobile toaster

>>322914212
Konami apparently lost the completed source code to the Silent Hill games.

>>322914440
>i wanted to play that on my mobile toaster
then get the smartphone version

>>322914454
I don't understand how that works couldn't they just download a ROM and go from there?

>>322912757
I think pretty much any game this gen that isn't on one console exclusively is pretty much guaranteed to be on PC. And even console "exclusives" aren't that exclusive anymore, games are way too expensive now.

>>322914667

No.

>>322914667

...no. That's all compiled, they'd have to completely rewrite the engine from scratch.

>>322914667
You meant to say "ISO".

>>322914665
>galaxys2
i don't think so man

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>>322914250
Square just doesn't give a shit.

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>>322913834
You sure about that, Hoss?

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>>322914336
They actually made new models for this release you fucking retard. They're considerably more detailed than the PSX ones, just compare the screenshots to pic related.

>>322914146
I don't get why they don't just use Lanczos or something. Obviously not perfect, but it wouldn't look like total garbage like the obviously bilinear ones are.

I don't even think it would take that long to do, there probably are a lot of backgrounds but it wouldn't take years to do. Like a day at most.

>>322914335
>IX
>PC port until now
Full retard.

>>322914251
>Own the original discs
>Going to get this anyways
Because I fucking can.

>>322914146

eh, with those sorts of renders that have already got so much corruption from being sized to a PS1 I don't think there's much you can do.

If the backgrounds were drawn it would be a lot easier

>>322914891
Nice one faggot. Of course I meant "proper" scaling, but getting there was too much for you was it?

>>322914886

How many of these backgrounds are out in the public?

>>322915019
If you play it at 640x480 you won't notice a difference anyway.

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>>322911595 (OP)

Fucking hell

>>322914943

Brother I think you're retarded

>>322915159

Not many. They tend to be from artbooks or unrelated prmotional stuff

>>322915159
Only about 40 out of hundreds, the original creator has them in his portoflio website.

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>>322915107
>20GB

>>322915140
Got any facts to back up those hot opinions, Anon?

>>322915107
>recommended
>no graphic card

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>>322915167
>playing PS1 games on a LCD/LED monitor

Hope you got a CRT.

>>322915289
No, but you are if you can't tell the difference.

>>322914943

>These PC release models are better than the one I saw on my standard definition TV with scanlines

whoa for real?

>>322915107
TWENTY

GIGS

What the fuck

>psx game was 4 CDs x 700MB
>2.8GB
>now its 20GB

What the fuck did they do?

>>322912554
I highly doubt it. In all likelihood this will be running on a literal PSX emulator with fancy filters and a high rendering resolution to make the 3D models look good.

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>>322915107
>20GB

HOW? Did they find the project files and just compile it all without compressing anything?

>>322915107
>Minimum: Vista
>Can run an emulated version on Windows ME and it looks better than this

>>322915107

How the fuck is it 20GB? That couldn't even fit on like 10 PS1 discs, let alone the four IX needed.

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>>322911595 (OP)

PC Master Race

>>322914943
Just stop posting, bruh

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>>322915107
>20 GB

>>322915107
>20gb
what the hell does it need 20gb for?

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>>322915524
Uncompressed audio files, I'll fucking put money on it.

>>322915290

FFIX has an artbook? Shit I need to get on that. They sell it online anywhere?

>>322915107
What the fuck. Even my friend's ancient PC's emulator was capable of running the game. I realize they're two different things but anyway.

>>322915413

Throw me up a side by side difference and I'll believe you nigga.

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>>322915159
I dunno. I just ran this one extracted from game through resize algorithm, it takes longer than standard options, but produces better results. Anybody could do it.
The only problem is getting nice backgrounds without JPG artifacts, but you could just extract all of the graphics from game to get those. Since BG animations are stored as individual frames, it'd work on those too.

>>322915673
even uncompressed audio soundtrack isn't even 10gb. uncompressed game and sound files is barely 3.5gb where and what the fuck is that other 16gb, Steam DRM?

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>>322915289
>>322915440
>>322915592
Yep, you're clinically retarded. They DID make new models for this release. It's painfuly obvious from the screenshots.

>>322915107

>20GB Recommended/Minimum
>Full 4 discs in ISO comes to about 1GB

wat?

>>322914079
>his crew
the fuck it is

>>322915856
You're forgetting updated graphics. Those cutscenes being a better quality add up and IX has a lot of them.
And, for all we know, there might be new stuff added.

>>322915856

uncompressed cutscenes most likely

It feels good that pc will never have the definitive versions of these classic games. not without emulating anyways.

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>>322915107
>20GB

This is the future. Now that 8th gen consoles use blu ray discs and hard drive space is cheap, devs don't even fucking care to compress anything. ANYTHING.

It's just like XIII, like 60GB of fucking cutscenes that are compressed to fuck anyways but the dual audio needed two complete different sets of cutscenes.

>>322915858

Guys should I be the one to tell him those models are the same?

>>322914396
I don't play ports of games that I've already beaten...?

>People surprised at over 20 GB
Remember when FF13 was over 60 fucking GB because of the Japanese VA and English VA? And the FMVs? And the fact it wasn't compressed at all?

Japs can't optimize worth shit.

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>>322916134
>LOOK MOM I'M BLIND OR SHITPOSTING OR BOTH

>>322916078
>new stuff added.
keep dreaming

>>322916183
>Japs
You talk as if western devs don't do it all the time. Look up Titanfall for PC. And then you have Jap PC games like MGSV which comes out in a very manageable size.

>>322916195

Same models, just uprez'd for PC. I highly doubt it would ever cross Square's mind to put any extra effort in projects anymore.

>>322915858
>Cutscene model vs in-game model
Anon...

>>322916134
They are, but they've been updated a decent amount for sure.

>>322916203
I'll never stop dreaming.

>>322911595 (OP)
Comes with countless cheats and babby mode yet again. Why even bother having achievements in an already easy game if you're just gonna gift them to the normies?

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>>322915826
Granted, it doesn't look that nice with all backgrounds. Manual cleaning would be necessary with some of these.

>>322916195
Obviously the models are not the same. Just ignore that weak retard who can't admit being wrong.

>>322913454

you should hate god for giving you a tiny dick

>>322916531
Could you do it with some Lindblum backgrounds?

>>322916428
>same models
>uprezed
You are literally fucking retarded and blind.
You can't "uprez" a model, that's not how models work you fucking retard. You can render a model in higher resolution but it won't change the polycount you fucking imbecile.
You can resize a texture to higher resolution (uprez) sure, but not a model you goddamn retard.

These are clearly both new models and textures. There's a lot more model and texture detail.
Not to mention that Squeenix themselves confirm they did make new models on the very fucking store page you goddamn retard.

>>322915858
I have very bad news for you, anon

>>322916392
MGSV was made by people who care with NVIDIA help, but without the shitty gimped features.

Most other games are just made by small teams in the studio who have probably never touched a PC game in their lives and only make it run.

>>322916428
Look at the bracers, for example. The old one is square, the newer one is more rounded.

>>322915989
Upscaled textures and lossless audio.

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I KNOW YOU'RE DOING THIS ON PURPOSE TO PISS ME OFF

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>>322916689

>Not to mention that Squeenix themselves confirm they did make new models on the very fucking store page you goddamn retard.
>"High-definition movies and character models."

Why are you telling lies anon

>>322911595 (OP)
What about the combat slowdowns?

>>322915858

Oh boy, who's gonna break the news to him?

>>322916531
>Manual cleaning would be necessary
But that would mean that they wouldn't be able to queue up all the pictures in Photoshop and just let it run for 15-20 minutes.
What filter are you using, by the way?

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>>322916124
>tfw without Trump this election would have been a boring depressing Clinton vs Bush shitshow

Thanks Trump, you the real MVP.

>make an actual port and not just a psx emulator
>still 4:3
They could have made this 16:9 so easily. Most of the town/dungeon screens were longer than they displayed as, and the battle maps are a no-brainer. Only the FMV would have been 4:3 and that would have been fine

>>322916942
theyre the same nigger

>>322916392
I'll give you that the west is just as guilty of this shit.

Fact is though most Japs just treat PC ports as a side thing. And MGSV was always talked about being put on PC as well it wasn't a side thing. Most time Japs companies just put a console game on PC without even bothering to make it work(See any Koei PC port)

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>>322916942

I knew IXfags were the most autistic

>>322916942
Anon, please. They're identical, just upscaled. Don't fool yourself.

>>322911595 (OP)
That literally hurts my eyes. The original with a scanline filter looks loads better

>>322913179
Oh my god, that's beautiful.

>>322913650
Me like.

>>322917124
That's not a IXfag.

>>322916942

They didn't make new models, they just increased base game res.

It's the same kinda thing you can you do with StarForce for DS - if you increase res, you see much higher res textures than on a regular DS, but no one's changed or improved any models.

>>322911595 (OP)
How long until a mod that fixes this ugly garbage?

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>>322916682

hahaha, sorry I couldn't resist throwing it at innapropriate methods

(this one is super nice for manga/anime style artwork)

>>322912740
>>322913117
>>322913349
>>322914384
>sincerely liking 5
>genuinely enjoying that crappy game
>in 2016

>>322917438
Then what is StarForce for DS?

What is Kingdom Hearts for DS?

>>322917438
well apparently you're not very good at what you do for a living you blind idiot, the models are literally the same

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>>322916682
Sure. Hardest part is finding shots without character models.
Also, going larger than 2X original can get messy.
>>322917037
waifu2x

>>322917494
Yeah that method didn't really work at all, lel. Thanks anyway.

Lindblum is my cityfu, favourite setting in anything ever.

>>322917494
post comparison for original and shopped

>>322916467
Models in those cutscenes were rendered in real time on top of a clip played in the background.

>>322916531
>>322917494
Jesus these look loads better. I'm guessing why they can't use these is because the tile based overlay though? Like some parts of the background have to appear in front and some behind. It's not a static image, and that would require too much effort for something like this

>>322917419
>>322917167
Can you guys not see the extra polygons? >>322916195
Look at the cuffs of the trousers here

>>322915858
Look at the face or the top of the shoes.

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>>322917562
>having this shitty of an opinion
>1992+24
FFV is objectively in the top three Final Fantasies, bro.

>>322917438

>SPACING

>YOUR

>POSTS

>LIKE

>YOU'RE

>ON

>TUMBLR

Please go back there.

>>322911595 (OP)
Can I change the character models in the settings? Because that looks like shit

>>322916942
They're the same. Know why?

They literally cannot make new models and put them in this game. This is not a direct port to PC per-say. Square is probably running this on an emulator. It's literally the only way possible to release FF9 in "HD" on PC. They can upscale the rendering resolution of 3D models and apply filters but that's it.

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>>322917673

>>322917764

nah, that Lindblum street is direct asset rip from the disc, anything the engine does with it would work the same

I don't really like it though. waifu2x is a fun little toy if you like neural network architecture, but it really is only any good at its intended use of anime style art

Only on Steam.
Time to pirate.

>>322917939
I literally want to play the game like this
I hope we get mods

tfw playing ff9 on my vita. looks amazing on that small screen

Steam version looks like shit, but will buy only to support.

>>322916789
Ouch. I'll be waiting for the software to compress this stuff. Don't mind the "loss" in quality at all.

>>322917438
And still you have no idea how this works.

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Quick while the autist is sperging out, post best FF ass

>>322917904
There are literally new polygons visible. They aren't springing from nowhere. It might be they're being automatically generated using tessellation or something though
>>322917772
Also there are higher res textures on the models

I miss pre-rendered backgrounds. As someone who knows jackshit about the /g/ side of making games, is it a technical reason or just the excuse that it's archaic that games don't use them anymore?

>>322918042
>supporting shit
I'd rather have nothing at all

>>322917904
>This is not a direct port to PC per-say.
it is
>Square is probably running this on an emulator
they're not
>It's literally the only way possible to release FF9 in "HD" on PC.

As far as I'm aware someone dug up a version they could port to PC so they went ahead. Look how trivial it is to insert new models into FF7 on PC.

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>>322917772

Pic related. Left is native DS. Right is upscaled. Both models are identical.

Exact same applies to FFIX on steam which runs at a higher resolution.

Congratulations on your retardation!

>>322918156
>There are literally new polygons visible.

But... there aren't.

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>20gig install
WHAT

>Zidane and the Tantalus Theater Troupe have kidnapped Princess Garnet, the heir of Alexandria. To their surprise, however, the princess herself yearned to escape the castle.
Through a series of unusual circumstances, she and her personal guard, Steiner, fall in with Zidane and set out on an incredible journey. Meeting unforgettable characters like Vivi and Quina along the way, they learn about themselves, the secrets of the Crystal, and a malevolent force that threatens to destroy their world.

Even Quina gets billing over Freya or Amarant. Christ this port couldn't be fumbled any harder if they tried.

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>>322918149
She went to shit when she lost her long hair.

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>>322917973
Yeah, but this is something people did in their spare time. Imagine if company like Squenix put proper time to this, of course you can't upscale art perfectly, but they get really close.
That'd do wonders to possibilities of re-releasing old games.

>>322918297
>Not liking short hair

how much of a pleb can you be?

>>322918171
Almost all modern 3D games have rotatable cameras. You can't really do that with static images as backgrounds.

>>322918171
>I miss pre-rendered backgrounds. As someone who knows jackshit about the /g/ side of making games, is it a technical reason or just the excuse that it's archaic that games don't use them anymore?

It's a pain in the ass. Doing all the lighting and everything, matching it to the scene, having to do a new rendering pass everytime you want to change something, it's just immensely more time consuming than doing it in-engine.

>>322918297

You're so wrong that I can't fathom any words to tell you how wrong you are.

>>322918171
You can rotate the camera in 3D now, making 2D pre-rendered backgrounds obsolete. Also, pre-rendered can break immersion as the game is separating what's the game and what's the picture.

>>322918293

Why would they mention Amarant?

>>322918156

>new polygons visible

Anon, please go to an optometrist, because you're seeing shit that isn't there. No new polygons are visible whatsoever.

>>322918171
Just an excuse.

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>>322918297
Both are fine.

>>322913694
Glorious bastards. This and the RE4HD mod restore my faith in humanity.

>>322917939
Hnng so good, thanks anon

>>322918472
>I can see all new 17 polygons

>>322918490
You have a picture for everything, don't you?

>>322918526
Anon, projects like this are seldom finished.

>>322918171

Working camera > hand drawn 2d background.

That's pretty much the only reason why, but damn is it a good reason.

>>322918490
>>322918149

Lost my Garnet folder, can anyone help me restock?

>>322918216
>People still being this retarded.

The Steiner model appears to have more polygons, Anon. Your upscaled DS model does not. Aliasing is improved, but the model remains the same. This is not an apt comparison to the Steiner or Zidane images.

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>>322918602
Well I try.

>>322918297

>Not liking short hair

Have you ever been so gay that you were ACTUALLY gay? Because you're pretty gay, which is totally fine if that's your sexual preference.

>>322918597

Post proof, because currently all you sound like is a mouth breathing mongrel.

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>>322918218
>>322918216
you made me open paint to trace edges of polygons. fuck you

Polygons dont just spring from nowhere

>>322911595 (OP)
>black bars
Why is it so hard to make a fucking 3d game widescreen in this day and age?

>>322918171
It was done before to get around the early 3D consoles' lack of power. They're full of disadvantages, they're hard to work with, they take a lot of space on disk, they're mostly static, they don't scale well to higher resolutions, and nowadays they won't look much better than realtime 3D maps thanks to the capabilities of modern consoles and PCs.

>>322914336
The models are being rendered in HD. The backgrounds are not because they're pre-rendered.

>>322918874
Because the backgrounds are 4:3 and you either crop out the top and bottom meaning you lose more of what little detail there already is or you stretch the image which is fucking terrible.

>>322918874

How the fuck would you make a flat picture background wide-screen without cutting shit off?

>>322918874
>3D
Pre-rendered. 2D backgrounds with 3D sprites running around on them. That's why.

>>322918373
>Imagine if company like Squenix put proper time to this

Bare minimum two artists, a programmer (to make the new stuff mesh properly) and a team leader, an office and 3 months. Plus you lose those staff from any other project they could be doing instead (and they were probably making phone games, aka $$$)

So like $20-30k + personnel wastage? Would that result in enough sales to offset the delay in release? Evidently SE thought not.

>>322918860
>what are camera angles.

If someone can promise me they will do some elite modding I'm going to buy it.

Has anyone modded FF7 for PC?

>>322918676
Shhhh don't jinx it. RE4HD is almost over now isn't it? I think they already did all the village and the castle.

>>322918874
>3d
These are pre rendered backgrounds anon.

>>322918860
People are ignoring the most important part of this version.
The models doesn't jitter like playstation games do.
That's a major improvement in of itself.

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>>322917438

>>322918860

>what are angles
>what is using two identical frames of reference

Fuck off back to Gaia faggot.

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>>322918860
Improved this a bit

>>322913494

> japanese developers actually looking after their assets for later use
> saving something for use 20 years later

>>322918874
If you can't figure it out, read through some of the thread

>>322918216
Left is upscaled, right is rendered at a higher resolution. If you're going to call others retards, at least know what you're talking about.

>>322919081
If you buy it for me I promise you I'll mod it.

>>322919267
No amount of angles are going to give Steiner's bracers the round edge they have on the left. Stop being retarded.

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lol you guys are screaming about 'muh graffix' when i'm over here just happy to play a good FF game again

ofcourse 4chan shitters can't appreciate a good game coming to PC :^)

>>322919276
Do you know how angles work?

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>>322918297
This, the only upside was it allowed more unobstructed views of The Best Ass in Gaming

>>322919025
I don't mean redoing the art manually, but working to make automated tool to upscale 2D art.
It'd be an investment, that they could potentially market to other companies.

>>322919419
See >>322919373

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>>322919080
>camera angles will magically make his trousers have more polygons

How about this one?
I'm not 100% on the bottom of the shoe but the cuffs are definitely at least twice as many (ie 8 lol) vertexes

>>322919276
Thanks, yeah, even better.

>>322919276
Find two images in the same place. There's no guarantee they didn't use more than one model.
>>322919429
Post yfw will not jiggle like that in the PC version because no jitter.

>>322919429
Mods to increase Garnet's ass-size. We need to go softer.

more importantly did they fix the slow ass way you start combat. I swear half my playtime was waiting on the combat to start.

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>>322919429
dat ass was FAT

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>>322919552
Get off the computer Zidane.

>>322918149
Nice fetal alcohol syndrome

>>322919430
someone who understand shits here, please do this

>>322919165

No, this just has to do with graphics rendering hardware, not models.

It does mean the games not emulated and has been ported, but it has absolutely nothing to do with the models.

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>>322915019
I'd use nnedi3, nigga.

N N E D I 3
N
E
D
I
3

>inb4 waifu2x fags show up

>>322919429
Best ass, but my vote for best total figure is still Rinoa.

>>322919367
Sure I can do that.

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>>322919597
>dat background art

>>322919651
Looks more like FAE to me.

>>322919537
We have about 5 seconds of gameplay footage. Also, we know that the original game always uses the same models. The game has 1 model for the main characters, except Zidane, who has one REALLY low res model for the 3d overworld bits.

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>>322919648
SOFTER

>>322911595 (OP)
wow the least they could do is update the goddamn background

higher resolution would fix the models all by itself

>>322918373
I didn't remember how much detail these backgrounds had. It's beautiful.

>>322919698
My post isn't supposed to be about the models hence the that as a standalone the lack of jitter is a massive improvement regardless of the models quality.

>>322919731
that's way too subtle of a difference. now do so with ffix backgrounds

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>>322911595 (OP)
>mustards will eat this shitty mobile port up like they're being spoiled

>>322917904
If you think sony would allow Square to write an emulator to run their game exclusively on PC and phones you're a fucking idiot and you shouldn't ever post again.

>>322919597
HOL.
HOL UP.
HOL UP A SEC.

Fucking Squeenix cheating and having long hair Garnet in Memoria.

>>322919382
Expectations for improvements is a good thing. The tech and willingness is out there. Would you buy a vhs recording just thrown onto a bluray

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>>322919820
Fine..

>>322919884

there really is no single pass upscale that will take a 320x240 background image for the playstation, and have it not look like crap at 1080

>>322919526

>cutscene model vs gameplay model
>"HEY LOOK, ONE HAS SLIGHTLY MORE VERTICES, THEY UPGRADED THE MODELS"

You could at least try you know.

>>322912275
You are only getting delusional and fanboy responses right now.

Play FF7, it's a classic for a reason.

Go from there to what interests you, but you should really just make sure to play FF7.

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>>322920004
if it's a rare ass video, then yes
I at least get to see a shitty video rather than no video at all
(plus i'm a hipster)