I have said this story before but this really pertains to this. We have a small university town in the middle of a rural western state. We have a large Saudi student body. We have a huge surge in date rapes and druggings at parties and bars. We have a surge in gay guys getting beat up.

Solution: Arab men are not allowed at bars or parties. And any beatings have been treated as had crimes and the men have been arrested. A few little spoiled brats ran back home as soon as they were out on bail. One leading a chase to the border. I have not heard one squawk about culture or racism. We don't fuck around.

Wow that is fucking sickening. Germany has an interesting year ahead of them.

You get Olga. She used to be on the East German Olympic weightlifting team.

Yea a male friend probably won't be very useful against a group of 100 male unfriends

They need some severe punishments for this. Caught doing this once and that's it, you're out of the country and are getting deported back. I don't know what else could be done.

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The whole fucking bunch of authorities is insane. Found on a bbc article:

Mr Jaeger also warned that anti-immigrant groups were trying to use the attacks to stir up hatred against refugees.

"What happens on the right-wing platforms and in chat rooms is at least as awful as the acts of those assaulting the women," he said. "This is poisoning the climate of our society."

-Ralf Jaeger, interior minister for North Rhine-Westphalia.

Trump is what happens when normal sane people aren't allowed to say anything about immigration or Islam without being called a racist. If no one is going to acknowledge the problem they'll go to the only person who will, even if he's nuts.

"We didn't know what was happening. We didn't know."

I just googled Rotherham and whooooooa.... I just wish I knew what to believe from UK sources because, well, they're pretty awful.

It's not just the assault on women . They were throwing fireworks at people and being belligerent. That isn't how guests should act The culture difference is hardly an excuse. When you come to a new place you mind yourself.

I can't agree to that. Their culture may be partially to blame, but these people know that what they're doing is wrong.

Presuming otherwise is ridiculous. Just ask them if they'd shrug and say "they deserved it" if their mothers or sisters or daughters were being raped (or you know what, maybe don't. I might not wanna know the answer).

No, the reason they're doing this isn't because they don't know "rape is wrong". They know that. And even if they didn't personally believe it, they sure as hell know that it's illegal. They just don't give a shit.

They're biting the hand that feeds them and feel completely justified. The concept of "when in Rome, do as the Romans do" is completely foreign to them. To them, its "when in Rome, those filthy sexy infidels better do as my people do, or I'm going to wreck shit up".

Granted, the vast majority of refugees are not like that. But these few spoiled rotten apples are going to really fuck shit up for their innocent "brothers".

Whoa there, these are refugees you're talking about. Open your legs you bigot, where's your sense of charity? \s

It's almost like politicians don't care about their citizens or the nation-state anymore.

That's so not funny it's funny.

Shit we get a new prime minister more often than they elect a mayor

I too have taken my girlfriend to Egypt on a vacation in March of 2011. My experience was very much similar, if not identical to yours. This type of behavior starts early. There was a restaurant with a parrot outside of the pyramids. Our tour group stopped there for a bite to eat. The women (including my girlfriend) were groped by a boy that couldn't have been more than 8 or 9 years old IN THE WOMEN'S RESTROOM. When our guides confronted the owner (also the boys father), he shrugged it off as if the ladies in the group were asking for it. There wasn't much the guides could do other than shuffle us all along. Keep in mind that all were appropriately dressed in long sleeves and long pants. Some even had their hair covered. There were many more incidents along the way but one that if firmly cemented in my mind was a sharply dressed business man openly striking his completely covered (abaya) wife in the lobby of the Hilton in Cairo. It was an argument around the hookah circle and he was drinking what appeared to be scotch on the rocks. Everyone in the lobby ignored it and went about their business. Also, we were scammed on that trip at least three times in as many weeks. Big scams aimed at the whole group. Not little ones.

My grandmother had rocks thrown at her in Pakistan for wearing shorts. This was in the 60's.

From your story I assume you do, but I'll ask anyway - do you regret taking her there? Were you not expecting that sort of reaction from their culture, and were you surprised when you both were treated that way?

I completely believe it. A friend of mine went to Egypt on a family vacation. While walking through a market place her father was aggressively propositioned to trade her for dozens of camels and other nonsense by multiple merchants.

She was treated like a piece of meat to be bought and sold. That's pretty telling about how women are treated there.

When in Rome, do as the Romans.

Been there before, I was raised in an area where we had Black, Asian, Indian, White, and Hispanic people that got along just well. Thought that all of this racism towards Arabs and North Africans was just pure bigotry, then I had some experience interacting with men from these cultures and realized why most people dislike them.

Better late than never. Europe can support people in crisis with money. They don't need to destroy the continent by bringing in groups of people who will always have large percentages of them supporting terrorism.

I have to agree. I was planning on immigrating to Germany temporarily after I completed my RN degree... Now I think I might just stay in America.

I used to be all for refugees, and labeled anyone who wasn't ignorant- but it's clear Europe is damaging their own society by allowing immigrants who don't want to change their toxic ways.

It's clear these people want too flee the war, by don't want to let go of their ideology, disrespect for women, other religions/cultures, and every other problem that caused their homeland to end up in war.

You can't help someone that doesn't want to be helped, unfortunately in this case it's the society and customs that this group of people have.

You aren't alone, I was upset the US wasn't doing more. As a women in the US, reading this is definitely a wake up call

Why do some people say /r/europe is stormfront-lite and others suggest it's the opposite?

Almost seems like European culture is intent on committing suicide.

Seems like /r/europe has changed then.

All immigration must take into account assimilation. If you're not assimilating your immigrants into your culture you're going to have problems.