Difference being that, back home, the people condoning such crimes and blaming victims are never called progressive.

I shouldn't have laughed at something so sad.

I remember when that happened in Tahrir Square apologists tried to downplay it there too. With Lara Logan for example, they were saying she wasn't really raped and that some teens just touched her boobs and ran away and that everyone was exaggerating what happened.

You don't fucking spend days in the hospital for someone touching your boobs. What really happened was she was raped by a group of over a hundred men. They grabbed her, tore off all her clothes and raped her for half an hour before she was rescued.

Its sick that people try to pretend this shit doesn't happen.

It is definitely a reality and no, it is not taken seriously. Government and media will cover it up like they have done since NYE and it will only get worse. You can't speak out against Islam in this country.

The biggest difference for me, and what makes this waaaaay worse is that I expect shitty things to happen in shitty Egypt, not in fucking Germany!

So it isnt just a local news anymore? Thanks admins

The second biggest story of the week should be how reddit tried to silence this conversation. Appalling.

my thought exactly.

I hope the germans are finally "allowed" to talk about such issues. Due to Germany's history, it is difficult to adress these problems without beeing called a racist. The political parties have been ignoring the problems for to long and now it is burning under the peoples finger nails. Folks are angy at their ignorant goverment and rightfully so. Unfortunately their gov. has proven to also be blind to right-wing extremist groups. It is a very dangerous combination to ignoring the concerns of the avarage joe, have a blind eye for extremists, keep record numbers of imigrants coming and at the same time downplay the associated issues. Germany has to talk about this and people have to be allowed to speak their mind otherwise I fear the worst is imminent.

Lets see how long your comment stays here.

Isn't it crazy how much this site has changed in the last 2-3 years? South Park has had a running gag on PC culture over this season and they are hitting it right on the money. Why am I called racist when I say "the vast vast majority of these types of assaults are coming from the Muslim community"? There is a serious fundamental flaw with that particular culture refusing to accept the culture of the area giving them asylum. Not only do they not accept it, they are treating people who are native to that culture and land like they are infidels.

German politicians have developed an absurd level of fear that anything might used by right-wing groups that even the news agencies were reluctant to report what happened and there's an awkward pussyfooting around the issue that the perpetrators do belong to certain ethnic groups.

Westerners need to say "our culture is worth defending and preserving." Western Civilization is doomed unless it stands up for itself. No one else will.

They were saying for months that bringing in all the immigrants was a great idea and calling anyone who even slightly questioned them as "bigots and racists".

Now that things are quickly getting out of control, they're trying to cover it up so no one knows the huge mistake they just made. Its going to take a while and a lot more of this, sadly, for them to start to admit they were wrong.

I remember reading something last night where the mayor said something along the lines of how women needs to dress and act in a way, so they don't provocate men to assault them.

In some situations women need to be more careful to avoid danger. In this case how in the world would you stop this from happening to you? Like there is one way out of the train station and it is being blocked by a mass of perverts. I feel like something should have been done by authorities to dissipate this crowd much more quickly.

The condescending way she said that is really infuriating.

What they really should be doing however is briefing revellers about a certain type of robbery that mainly targets drunk persons. Many are not aware of it, just like many pensioners were not aware of the grandparent scam until police started an informational campaign about it.

You can see it in action in this video. Looks stupid, but it's crazy effective when targeting drunk people and acting drunk yourself. People just shove the guy away thinking "what an idiot" only to notice minutes later that their wallet is missing.

You wouldn't believe it but there have apparently been more than 10,000 such attacks in Cologne alone since 2011, it's a very widespread phenomenon, mostly committed by occupational pickpockets.

Unfortunately it's the reality, even in modern countries. Last year in Montreal there was an issue with women being sexually assaulted in taxis and the police's response was that women shouldn't take taxis alone or something to that effect. While I don't believe anything terrible awaits us in the future, I'm hopeful that society will become more aware and demand changes from the perpetrators, not the victims!

It's also completely idiotic, how the fuck are you going to "keep an arms length distance to strangers" if the station is as packed as it was. In Japan and India they have separate train cars for women because of these disgusting groping attacks. Do we need gender separation in train station transit zones now?

I think the worst of it all is that the Cologne police statement in the early morning hours claimed it was an orderly night without incidents apart from them having to clear the square of people shooting rockets at each other. They weren't even aware of this shit going on despite being right next to it.

Imagine if a group of, say, 1000 college guys sexually assaulted these women. Would they be blaming the women? Fuck no. So why is it not a big deal or "not representative" when a different group does it? For some reason I can't imagine these people falling over themselves brushing it off if 1000 fraternity guys raped/assaulted women in one night at a university, for instance.

Edit: People have brought up some good points about my analogy not being entirely accurate. In my defense, it was one of the first things to pop into my mind since I had just finished reading this Vice article about a writer who was completely baffled that fraternity parties weren't actually rape-fests after she snuck into one.

Exactly. This is no different than saying a woman "asked for it" for walking by themselves or wearing tight jeans or something.

The whole event is a clusterfuck. WDR yesterday had a rather extensive showcase on QR about it and mind you my German isn't that brilliant. What is insane is the amount of politicians as well the police who say you should stay away from men as well that they are still "searching". How is this possible dozens of complaints were filed, there are camera's in the station everywhere and yet nobody is in custody yet.

At the same time even within the CDU people are now openly opposing Merkel and simply say this year maximum 200.000 refugees instead of the 1 million+ they got this year. Daily in the news in West Europe there are negative news articles varying from sexual assault, fighting, stealing/mugging it's a given that this will explode one day or another. Current parties will be wiped but not really surprisingly the local population is turning further and further against the huge influx of refugees. It simply isn't sustainable when you add 1% to your population of an entirely different culture and obviously have little respect nor willingness to integrate.

What surprises me btw is that Reddit is rather slow in this news. It's already all over on the German news sites like Bild but as well the BBC the past couple days and it only surfaces recently on Reddit. So much for the frontpage of the internet.

This makes me so fucking furious!!

Almost as disgusting is the police and media repeatedly pressing the message that this is 'nothing to do with refugees'.

"Don't worry guys, it's not the unchecked mass of North African and Middle Eastern immigrants pouring into the country now, it's the unchecked mass of North African and Middle Eastern immigrants from the last few decades. Completely different problem!".

Welcome to Syria Europe, not only have you imported the people, but the problems also, I've been banned from both here and /r/Europe for saying it but I'll keep saying it like I have for the last 5 years.

Muslim men from the Middle east see your women as cattle and whores that they can do as they please with.

They have no respect for you, your beliefs or your nation.

Thank Merkle you Naive fucking idiots.

EDIT: just in case I am banned again, I'm not saying it's a problem with Islam, rather a difference in cultrue between ME and EUR

While I agree that this is terrible (this whole situation is a goddamn travesty and the blame lies on the politicians who were willfully ignorant and let it happen), I think the reason they're doing this is because as the situation is now, these women are in real danger. With the campus rape "epidemic", women weren't actually putting themselves at risk by dressing in revealing clothing or walking alone at night (even the few rapes that were happening on college campuses weren't random attacks in a dark alleyways). Now, in places like Cologne, it's a very real possibility that these women are going to get raped by a man they don't know in public because they aren't dressed modestly enough. It's a testament to just how fucked up the situation is: this isn't make-belief "rape-culture" any more. Germany opened the floodgates to an actual rape culture. They don't really have a choice but to start taking precautions. This is just damage-control now. Unless they're willing to start deporting refugees, German (and Swedish, Norwegian, Swiss, Danish, Dutch...) women are actually putting themselves in danger by traveling alone at night, dressing provocatively and not carrying some sort of protection. Smh, and so many of us saw this coming a mile away...

And then there's also the element of "multicultural tolerance" being higher up on the agenda than women's rights for these people and apparently they would sooner let their country burn than admit they were wrong. Disgusting.

That's where the values of the European bleeding heart leftists collide and they have to decide for one or the other.

These "regressives" are totally in favor of mass immigration from people that come from cultures that totally incompatible with the European one, but are also in favor of LGBT rights, Feminism, etc.

The problem is that you cannot have both at the same time since Islam is against everything that they stand for.

It's going to take a while until they understand this.

To repost a comment I made earlier:

I've always been quite left leaning, but over the last few years, and increasingly so recently, I feel so disenfranchised by that which I used to honestly really believe was the better way... I can't bring myself yet to support the right, but if there's not a sane and viable alternative to the left in Europe soon, I have grave concerns that the things which make Europe so great right now may not survive another generation.

Do you really believe if Germany had accepted 1 million East Asians (Japanese people, Koreans and Chinese), instead of 1 million people from Africa, the Middle East, and countries like Pakistan last year, then the situation would be just as bad as it is now?