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[–]satire____ 225 points226 points227 points  (119 children)
Why people take pc vs consoles so seriously is beyond me.
[–]strawmanmasterrace 127 points128 points129 points  (46 children)
What a load of horse shit. Without the console money we wouldn't even have a quarter of the triple A games we have today. Which is something PC gamers love to forget.
[–]jb_in_jpnPC Master Racehttps://steamcommunity.com/id/steamymiso 25 points26 points27 points  (6 children)
Not all of us, just the younger, trigger happy ones for the most part. It's utterly inane though, I agree - we'd still now be stuck on games a good decade back, relatively speaking, were it not for consoles.
[–]Probate_JudgeFormer PC Master RaceThis sub is Peasantry of a different flavor comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (5 children)
I agree - we'd still now be stuck on games a good decade back, relatively speaking, were it not for consoles.
However, they are less and less relevant for the future of gaming. This sub isn't all about history, it is about improving the future.
Consoles today are quickly becoming what handhelds were 20 years ago, just a completely sub-par and limited experience.
The next "console" that maybe you can't upgrade the hardware so much, but you can play with the software(think: laptop, is what could bust the console market.
This is what some companies are shooting for with small form factor / "steam machines" / prebuilt machines. All totaled, those are a massive chunk of PC sales.
The division that console makers by doing everything in a proprietary fashion is currently nothing but an obstruction for gaming.
[–]Zeal88 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
handhelds are still great dude
a few weeks ago I played Chrono trigger in its entirety.. toilet break? no problems there
[–]Probate_JudgeFormer PC Master RaceThis sub is Peasantry of a different flavor -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
Modern handhelds can be pretty cool.
I didn't realize the original Gameboy is 27 years old this year though, boy do I feel old.
[–]foxdye22 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
This sub isn't all about history, it is about improving the future.
since when?
[–]Probate_JudgeFormer PC Master RaceThis sub is Peasantry of a different flavor -4 points-3 points-2 points  (1 child)
Damn, it's like you people don't even look at the sidebar of the subreddit that you're shitposting in.
[–]junautoworksPC Master Race2x GTX 980, i7 4790k, 16GB RAM, Asus ROG SWIFT 10 points11 points12 points  (0 children)
They're funding our games and were funding their tech.
Except...
Were getting the games and they haven't got the tech! :D
All jokes aside we do need to coexist. I feel the same for the console wars, although they hate each other they need each other to thrive.
[–]DreamingSoraFilthy Nintendo Peasant 9 points10 points11 points  (4 children)
I don't believe this at all. A PC is a platform to play games on just like a console. If it wasn't for the ridiculous marketing and exposure that Microsoft and Sony put out, then PC would be no different than the consoles in terms of popularity. It would be idiotic to assume that just as many games wouldn't have been developed without consoles.
[–]strawmanmasterrace 9 points10 points11 points  (2 children)
If Microsoft and Sony didn't exist some other company would have existed that would have made a PC with the capabilities of gaming and none of the struggle related to building a PC, dealing with software problems and whatnot. And that PC is what we call a console.
It would be idiotic to assume that just as many games wouldn't have been developed without consoles.
Where do you think the money for games comes from? Hint: the majority is not from people who have the ability to build a PC.
[–]DreamingSoraFilthy Nintendo Peasant 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
The reason Sony and Microsoft were brought up was because they're the leading contenders in the console market. The focus of the comment though was at consoles themselves. If there were no consoles it would be asinine to believe that we wouldn't be where we would be today in terms of gaming development. Not to mention PC would be held to being the highest contender, providing marketing, exposure, and overall increase in popularity. Consoles aside from handhelds would be second priority, contrast to the AAA game situation today. An increase on education for PCs would be the best benefit from it; software problems are few and far between when it comes to vanilla video games.
[–]sterob -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Who say you need to have the ability build a PC in order to build a PC game?
[–]supahmonkeyPC Master Racedaywalker42666 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
If there were no consoles and PC was the only platform we'd still be getting triple A games, the only difference is that they'd all be capable of 60fps and there wouldn't be shitty ports.
[–]KarmaisthedevilPC Master RacePC Master Race -4 points-3 points-2 points  (15 children)
How do you know that every console player wouldn't just get a PC instead and it would continue on as normal?
Games being worse graphically due to consoles is just a fact.
[–]strawmanmasterrace 10 points11 points12 points  (14 children)
Because there is a huge chunk of console buyers who will never bother to build a PC for gaming ever, simply because they're not as interested in games as most people here are.
[–]DaltoniusRexPC Master RaceDaltoniusRex 0 points1 point2 points  (5 children)
The idea that people would just not game if consoles weren't an option is absolutely asinine.
[–]strawmanmasterrace 2 points3 points4 points  (4 children)
They would game. But less people would game.
[–]redwall_hpLaptopMacBook Pro | Linux FTW 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
And there's nothing wrong with that. If anything, it would force game studios to focus on making new and different games instead of rehashing Call of Assassins Scrolls formulae.
It's highly unlikely that if Microsoft and Sony called it quits after this console generation that people who actually buy games periodically (rather than "I bought a Wii and only use it for the bundled stuff") would give up on their hobby rather than seeking an alternative.
[–]strawmanmasterrace 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
That would be sweet but gaming studios run on money rather than passion, and there simply would be less money.
[–]redwall_hpLaptopMacBook Pro | Linux FTW 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
And the inefficient ones would die, and new companies that can operate on that budget would appear. Live by capitalism, die by capitalism. It's none of the consumer's concern whether their business is viable: only whether it's a good value to the customer.
[–]KarmaisthedevilPC Master RacePC Master Race -3 points-2 points-1 points  (7 children)
Okay so suddenly they stop making consoles, or consoles never existed.
Do they
A) Buy a steam machine
B) Buy a PC
C) Say, well, gaming was fun, time to give it up forever
If you really think it's C... well my point is you can't prove it either way so you can't say we wouldn't have a quarter of the AAA games we have today.
[–]bronerkillDesktop2500k | GTX 980 6 points7 points8 points  (6 children)
Why are we making up retarded scenarios that will never come to fruition? Consoles will likely always have better sales and profit than pc games.
[–]DaltoniusRexPC Master RaceDaltoniusRex 0 points1 point2 points  (3 children)
Because the discussion was about whether or not console gaming is damaging to the industry's consumers... Which obviously requires a discussion on what gaming would be like without consoles.
[–]strawmanmasterrace -2 points-1 points0 points  (2 children)
There will never ever be gaming without consoles, because in order to introduce gaming to a broader audience we need consoles.
[–]DaltoniusRexPC Master RaceDaltoniusRex 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I never suggested there ever wouldn't be consoles. I suggested that a discussion on whether or not consoles are harmful to gaming requires hypothesizing the theoretical scenario of not having them.
[–]sterob 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
because in order to introduce gaming to a broader audience we need consoles.
why?
[–]fuckyourmothershit1 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (1 child)
citation needed, maybe you should check the top selling games, i'm pretty sure pc games are in that list. Also, there are way more PCs per household than consoles. If the marketing people want to spin it to make pc the most profitable platform, they could, just like how they do it for consoles.
[–]bronerkillDesktop2500k | GTX 980 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Notice how the highest selling PC game is Minecraft, at 22 million. San Andreas on PS2 sold 27.5 million.
New Super Mario Bros, a handheld game sold 30 million, and 2 other DS games beat out Minecraft on PC. On the PS3, GTAV sold almost as many copies as Minecraft on PC, during a much smaller time frame.
And Minecraft is not just the highest selling PC game, it is higher than the next PC game (WoW) by 8 million units sold, and Minecraft was a huge outlier not just in PC gaming, but gaming period, not to mention it sold for less half the price of GTAV at its max.
If you go by WoW, the next biggest game, many consoles have games that have sold more.
[–]bronerkillDesktop2500k | GTX 980 -2 points-1 points0 points  (10 children)
Not to mention they are ignoring the most important point: users prefer the simplicity and longevity of consoles.
I don't care if you can build a pc for $400 today, in 3 years I will still be gaming on a ps4 just fine. Meanwhile, I will almost definitely have upgrade my 980 by then!
[–]enzlowPC Master Race 5 points6 points7 points  (7 children)
LOL, Upgrade a 980 in 3 years? I would honestly think you can play any game coming out in the next 3 years on the 980 at 1080 60fps with high to ultra settings. Hell, I have a computer that has a 5870 that is still kickin ass 5 years later that isn't even top of the line.
[–]bronerkillDesktop2500k | GTX 980 -3 points-2 points-1 points  (6 children)
My monitor is not 1080p, hence why I have a 980 to begin with. This thing already cannot max many games at max settings 60fps if you don't play at a shit resolution, in 3 years (especially with VR incoming) I will absolutely be upgrading if I have not already. And your 5870 does not kick ass, I upgraded from a 6950 and that chugged in many games unless all you play is LoL.
[–]sterob 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Do you know that console run game @ 900p and 30fps right?
If you are contented with console kind of performance (low draw distance, low texutre, 30fps) you dont even need to upgrade.
[–]bronerkillDesktop2500k | GTX 980 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Why would I be content with console quality on pc? I don't mind my ps4 because I know what it is and what it is capable of, that doesn't mean I don't like better graphics...
For pcmr you guys are weak.
[–]enzlowPC Master Race 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
The 5870 I have on a spare computer can play games better than next consoles... which is what you were comparing things to. Okay? Kthx
[–]Ray_BanciPC Master RaceAMD 8320 | GTX 970 SSC -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
So you have a $500+ card but a monitor that is not 1080p
Huh?
[–]bronerkillDesktop2500k | GTX 980 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
You realize there are monitors and tvs with higher resolution then 1080 right?
[–]Ray_BanciPC Master RaceAMD 8320 | GTX 970 SSC 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
The way you phrased your comment made it seem like you have a monitor with a lower resolution than 1080, or that anything lower than your current resolution is "shit".
Just hard to follow
[–]k0bra3eakPC Master RaceIs it needed check my username 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
No you won't need to, you can easily last a gaming PC far longer than a console, just set up properly.
[–]sterob 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
oh so in 3 years your ps4 won't run game on the same graphic like medium-low on PC?
6 years old ATI 5770 can run witcher 3 30fps @ medium setting, but can your 6 years old PS3 do it? oh wait there is no witcher 3 on PS3.
[–]fuckyourmothershit1 -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
lmao, do you seriously believe that gamers won't just adapt a different platform just to continue their hobbies? Many people started PC gaming, because they don't have a console/tv lying around at some point in their lives and they started to learn how to build a pc, because they really want to keep playing games.
[–]Probate_JudgeFormer PC Master RaceThis sub is Peasantry of a different flavor -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
Consoles were important, emphasis on "were". Now, however, much like the music and movie industry, they're becoming less and less relevant as far as performance per dollar(or other money unit) goes, so it still applies.
[–]randomly-generated -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
I don't play ports. The shit I like isn't even playable on consoles.
[–]MoonliteJazDesktopi7-2600k l 980 Ti -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
True, but I'd say that quarter of games we have without console money are the higher quality ones. Look at the best AAA games of this year, all of them started on the PC.
Examples: Metal Gear Solid series(started on a device sort of like the Steam Box and MK2), The Witcher series, and The Fallout series.
If you actually think about it, PC is leading the gaming industry in terms of quality.
[–]sterob -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
I don't see how console helped Half life, warcraft, starcraft, diablo, Age of Empire, Sim...
If you talk about exclusive, let see what it really meant. Console makers bribe studio to make games for their console. Are the console makers charity? No, so they will recoup their investments which means in the end it is we, gamers who pay for those exclusives. And what is the difference between paying for a pc game and a console game?
[–]The_Mayor_Smashville 66 points67 points68 points  (25 children)
That dudes an asshole.
[–]SaraphLPC Master Racesteamcommunity.com/id/saraph69 6 points7 points8 points  (24 children)
What dude are you talking about?
[–]The_Mayor_Smashville 79 points80 points81 points  (23 children)
The biased shit lord who wrote the subreddit wiki info that consoles hurt everyone and there is not one good thing about consoles for the gaming industry.
[–]DreamingSoraFilthy Nintendo Peasant comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points  (8 children)
You're kidding me right? A platform is a platform, and consoles being an absolute shit-fest to the industry hurts it as a whole. It's asinine to believe that we wouldn't have had the same amount OR greater strides without them. Redditors have no concept of market.
[–]notdeadyet01Filthy Console Peasant 4 points5 points6 points  (4 children)
It's asinine to believe that we wouldn't have had the same amount OR greater strides without them
It's equally as asinine to believe that we would be where we are at without them.
[–]DreamingSoraFilthy Nintendo Peasant comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points  (3 children)
Not really, that's the most logical conclusion if you actually understood the industry.
[–]notdeadyet01Filthy Console Peasant 9 points10 points11 points  (2 children)
Yeah, ok
[–]DreamingSoraFilthy Nintendo Peasant comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points  (1 child)
no concept of market.
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    [–]DreamingSoraFilthy Nintendo Peasant comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points  (1 child)
    Do you have any concepts of PC? It is very incredibly easy to operate. Consoles simply enable the usage of a device that is slightly easier to use. Also no, PCs are not "very expensive". You drop the same amount of money on a PC that you would for a console and you would have a system that not only would match it, but do better. This doesn't even factor in the fact that you're getting MORE than a console and an actual PC, killing two birds with one stone. This is what I'm talking about, people with no experience on either platforms spreading misinformation.
    [–]CyborgWombat comment score below threshold-32 points-31 points-30 points  (13 children)
    Do you know where you are right now?
    [–]The_Mayor_Smashville 36 points37 points38 points  (12 children)
    Yes, but just because I like something more doesn't mean I'll call it horrible without giving any good points.
    [–]CyborgWombat comment score below threshold-28 points-27 points-26 points  (11 children)
    So your the guy who has to say, "Well yeah, he did all that bad stuff, but he also painted!"
    [–]The_Mayor_Smashville 28 points29 points30 points  (5 children)
    I think Consoles are good for the industry by bringing a simple gaming alternative to PC's. Anyone can use a console off the drop of a hat. Not everyone can use a PC.
    [–]your_mind_achesLaptopLenovo Y510p | 8GB RAM | i7-4700MQ @ 2.4GHz | GeForce GT 750M 5 points6 points7 points  (3 children)
    This so much. There are many many many reasons to use consoles. Of course I love PCs more and they are definitely superior in terms of graphics and general USE and cost-effective if you know what you're doing. And it's just more fun imo.
    But they can get expensive and complicated. Consoles are easy to use. Plug and play. And it doesn't mean you can't get a PC later on.
    [–]CyborgWombat comment score below threshold-13 points-12 points-11 points  (0 children)
    Not everyone can use a PC.
    Not with that attitude.
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      [–]CyborgWombat 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      LMAO
      Someone gets it... lol
      [–]foxdye22 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
      Yes, the best direction to take this discussion is "Consoles are literally Hitler, and if you try to defend them it's the same as defending Hitler."
      Way to make yourself look 14.
      [–]CyborgWombat 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      The lack of awareness of what sub you people are in is outstanding.
      [–]YlissianDesktop 21 points22 points23 points  (14 children)
      I love how he fails to acknowledge the rampant piracy that is always present when a big game comes out on PC. Gotta ignore anything that might hurt my arguement. Propaganda at its finest.
      [–]bronerkillDesktop2500k | GTX 980 5 points6 points7 points  (0 children)
      Not to mention ease of use. Without consoles, I would have even more people hounding me for help all the time.
      [–]k0bra3eakPC Master RaceIs it needed check my username 1 point2 points3 points  (3 children)
      Wait so the people who pirate consoles aren't the same, anyone with a link to the internet can pretty much pirate anything.
      [–]YlissianDesktop 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
      What? You do realize consoles are a walled garden for a reason right? It is much harder to pirate on a current hen console (i don't even think it's possible) than PC.
      [–]k0bra3eakPC Master RaceIs it needed check my username 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      It is people have run emulators through consoles, pirating won't take much more effort, current gen consoles are easier even maybe than the previous gen.A console is a PC, with attempts to restrict it via hardware(shitty hardware, they could do better, make consoles run better and still be affordable) and of coarse software, it just takes some know how and you can break it.
      [–]YlissianDesktop 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      pirating won't take much more effort, current gen consoles are easier even maybe than the previous gen
      Based on what evidence?
      [–]fuckyourmothershit1 2 points3 points4 points  (7 children)
      then why do you ignore piracy in consoles? Hypocrite. Besides, people pirating games don't hurt my personal gaming experience, while 30fps does.
      [–]notdeadyet01Filthy Console Peasant 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
      The only Piracy going on for current Gen consoles is gamesharing. Even then that requires you to at least purchase a copy of the game to begin with.
      Then again, there is that Wii U emulator thats being worked on. But that requires a PC so it hurts your argument even more.
      [–]redwall_hpLaptopMacBook Pro | Linux FTW 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      Additionally, it's a waste of time to worry about it. CDPR released Witcher 3 without any DRM whatsoever, gave zero fucks about piracy, and made a killing. Yes, some people got free copies. But they still made millions on a truly high quality game, and if anything the people who didn't buy it still contributed to word of mouth marketing.
      Adobe doesn't give a damn if you, as an individual, pirate Photoshop. They'll sue your ass if you're a large business doing that, but they'd rather get people into their ecosystem so future employers have to buy licenses. Same with Micro$oft.
      The only ones bitching about piracy are the ones churning out shitty stuff that's not worth the price tag
      [–]YlissianDesktop 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Hypocrite. Besides, people pirating games don't hurt my personal gaming experience, while 30fps does.
      Ohh I thought you being serious LOL
      [–]Ray_BanciPC Master RaceAMD 8320 | GTX 970 SSC -1 points0 points1 point  (3 children)
      Wtf dude piracy is treated amongst alot of PC gamers as "Demo mode"
      Like oh yeah their going to delete their 50gb pirateed game to "buy" it after they liked their demo and re-download it. Use some common fucking sense, rarely is anybody that altruistic and pirating in itself cannot be justified in any way shape or form
      [–]angypangyPC Master RaceSpecs/Imgur here 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
      After you pirate the game, you can just buy the game in steam and drag the files over, no need to redownload
      [–]sterob 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Additionally, it's a waste of time to worry about it. CDPR released Witcher 3 without any DRM whatsoever, gave zero fucks about piracy, and made a killing. Yes, some people got free copies. But they still made millions on a truly high quality game, and if anything the people who didn't buy it still contributed to word of mouth marketing.
      Adobe doesn't give a damn if you, as an individual, pirate Photoshop. They'll sue your ass if you're a large business doing that, but they'd rather get people into their ecosystem so future employers have to buy licenses. Same with Micro$oft.
      The only ones bitching about piracy are the ones churning out shitty stuff that's not worth the price tag
      [–]sterob 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      yeah right, there are so many pirates they leak console game before release date.
      [–]ixtilion -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
      That is a really biased view
      [–]buelens7Laptophttp://imgur.com/x3pPT5D comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points  (2 children)
      i exclude nintendo in general off that list of consoles are bad, asside from the 3rd party software (something you do not buy a nintendo console for, you buy it for nintendo games).
      100% agreed with the wiki for sony/microsoft.
      [–]Gary_FucKingPC Master Racei5-4460 MSI 390 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
      Why?
      [–]Probate_JudgeFormer PC Master RaceThis sub is Peasantry of a different flavor -2 points-1 points0 points  (0 children)
      IMO, they're not as much, "We are the absolute king for gaming and everyone needs one in their living room."
      Many nintendo exclusives are those games that wouldn't exist if not for the platform. In a sense, they've earned the right because they've been around forever and have so much IP that it actually makes sense for them to have their own controlled walled garden.
      Most of Sony and MS stuff though, are games that some company develops and then sells out to them with shady backroom deals.
      I would't say I exclude nintendo from consoles dirty games, but they're somewhat less bad for the industry.
      Sony and MS are evil incarnate because they're buying the exclusives, to sell more consoles(which they don't really profit on), to sell more games(which they take a cut of). It is that professional corporate middleman BS that has so many people pissed at ISPs, RIAA, MPAA.....this is the motive behind Sony and MS.
      Nintendo hasn't done that quite as blatantly. Due to it's rich history it's been able to stick with those feels of what consoles were, well back in the day, which makes sense, because they were around before the other two consoles, even the hand-helds they put out were around before PS/Xbox.
      [–]WhoNeedsRealLife -5 points-4 points-3 points  (1 child)
      meh, I don't buy it. I've never owned a console and played on PCs since the early 90's and honestly, the games coming to PC now are in greater quantity and quality than ever. Is there any statistics that the new generation of consoles have actually made a dent in PC game sales?
      [–]sterob 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      is the shitfest of CoD and AssCreed every year a part of "PC now are in greater quality than ever"?
      How many good RTS or even TBS did you see in the last 10 years? How many shitty CoD-style shooter type did you see in the last 5 year?
      [–]Thomathius 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
      I think it's the same reason people obsess over sports. Humans are competitive by nature and love to say their team/console/whatever is better than everyone else's.
      [–]dangermoose125Desktopi7 4790, GTX 980Ti HoF 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Maybe because we're not filthy casuals like you. /s
      [–]JESUSgotNAIL3D 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
      Same here.
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        [–]AgentNipplesPC Master Racei7 4790k @4.7ghz/16gb RAM/ 2x GTX 970 SLI 13 points14 points15 points  (0 children)
        Jokes on you! I don't have a basement!
        [–]Deranged40 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
        Filthy casuals!
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          [–]Grabbsy2HTPC860K | 750Ti | 500GB SSD 13 points14 points15 points  (1 child)
          Had to check to confirm, 6 comments today, one 2 days ago, one 6 days ago, one 9 days ago, 4 comments 11 days ago...
          Sadly, doesn't really hold up :P
          [–]mazu747Laptopcrap 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
          Lol that's nothing
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              [–]PunkmafflesPC Master Racei5-2500Kcpu@3.30ghz | AMD R9 280x comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points  (1 child)
              And you go off spouting shite out of your mouth without any validation. Unless you're just trolling to get replies/downvoted because lolz.
              [–]RageMojo comment score below threshold-19 points-18 points-17 points  (0 children)
              Because it changed the entire industry of gaming for the worse.
              [–]snowtoaster comment score below threshold-17 points-16 points-15 points  (5 children)
              Because it's hilarious
              Wait does that mean I'm not taking it seriously?
              [–]satire____ 10 points11 points12 points  (4 children)
              Does it mean that? I am pretty sure it doesn't. Why people spend so much time and effort on pc vs consoles is what is beyond me, if that makes things clearer.
              [–]snowtoaster 5 points6 points7 points  (1 child)
              I just like to watch the show. I don't really care. Prolly gonna buy an xbox for halo 5 anyway
              [–]PunkmafflesPC Master Racei5-2500Kcpu@3.30ghz | AMD R9 280x 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              Yup. I love my ps4 and pc but fuck both because no halo. Honestly the console war shit is stupid and frivolous. At this point it's just people shitting on what other people like because lol it's fun.
              [–]your_mind_achesLaptopLenovo Y510p | 8GB RAM | i7-4700MQ @ 2.4GHz | GeForce GT 750M 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              I sort of just scrolled cautiously down this thread looking for more sensible comments lol
              [–]bilky_tPC Master RaceOC i5 2500K | R9 390X | 8GB RAM (1333 & reduced 1600 xD) 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
              Because proprietary anything just means more Martin Shieks running around fucking up the world for a quick buck.
              This happens in every industry. It's just more pronounced when people's lives are at stake.
              [–]Youwishh -1 points0 points1 point  (0 children)
              Because consoles are for fucking losers, bro! Pcmr!
              [–]HrimPC Master RaceMy other PC is a MAC -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
              Edit: Oops, I mean All glory to the unemployed basement dwelling underage PC lords (paid by mom).
              Playing on console or PC doesn't matter. I can understand how annoying it is to see our loved one to experience subpar graphics when they could have better, or be free from stupid PSN restrictions (No internet? No playing for you then because you forgot to activate your PS4 as primary and need to check your privileges each time you launch a game).
              But in the meantime, when GTA V made 800'000'000$ on 24 hours, it wasn't because of PC. Or when people queue all night, it's not to get the new GreenForce GTX999Radroach, it's to get the Nintendo Wee, Praystation IIIII and Xbox1080Noscope.
              Console make people aware, make investor aware and the media aware. Video games aren't about which system is best, it's about fun.
              I find PC is better, but I still have my PS3 and when my GF's sister wanted to buy a PS4, I drove her to the shop and didn't try to make her buy a PC. I believe the vast majority here is very tolerant and just troll sometimes for fun and giggle (I do it all the time).
              Those who take this "war" seriously must realise they have no stake at all in this. They aren't shareholders, they aren't engineers on a bonus-payroll and they certainly aren't developers with sales objectives. Just like people are anti-apple or pro-samsung, you are justing making Marketing team so wet by waging war for them with no benefit but losing your time, mind, and compassion.
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