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[–]neohellpoet 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 1日前 (4子コメント)
First to clarify terminology. Capitalism on it's own isn't a phrase with much depth. It simply means that wealth should be created by adding labor to raw material. It's in opposition to systems like feudalism and mercantilism who respectively believe that wealth can only be created by working the land or wealth can only be created by having a trade surplus and thus by importing more gold than you export.
What you're thinking of is a specific kind of capitalism called, free market capitalism. Free market capitalism requires three factors to function. Government non intervention, perfect competition and perfect consumer information.
While the ideal is obviously impossible to achieve even the imperfect version is pretty good. If the consumer knows everything and everyone can sell any product the consumer will inevitably ruin any company not working in the consumers interest. No intervention is needed.
However, this system does not account for the need for innovation. Having a world where anyone can print magic cards is all well and dandy until you consider that it takes a lot more money to develop a set, commission the art ect. in addition to printing it, than it is to just copy the cards and print them.
The problem becomes infinity larger when you consider technologies that cost tens or hundreds of millions of dollars to develop and a tiny fraction of that to copy. To get innovation the government needs to intervene specifically to disrupt perfect competition.
All of this would still work fine if we at least had the, if not perfect, the relevant information and here's where we get to your central point. Free maker capitalism isn't bad do to people being apathetic about important issues and enthusiastic about the new shiny, it's impossible. Marketing and advertising are some of the first things we associate with capitalism, and are at the same time by far the most uncapitalistic thing you could do short of establishing a monopoly or nationalization
However, it's also really important to point out, the problem isn't the system. The system is fine. You know how they say communism looks good on paper but doesn't work in practice? That's bullshit. It looks horrible on paper. It complacently ignores people. It's a system for robots. Capitalism does account for people being people and thus selfish, it does look good on paper because while it's hard to imagine people being selfless automatons only working for the betterment of the collective, people being self interested and acting accordingly is perfectly reasonable.
What no system can account for is people acting not in their own self interest, or the interest of the collective, but doing things that are self defeating, hurting them selves, hurting those around them and only forwarding the fortunes of a choice few that make it openly known they want nothing to do with the masses.
Why would anyone tie money to a balloon and send it to the sky only to get pissed on? I don't know, but but they do. What system could possibly account for that? How do you build a society where it's members are hellbent to ruin it.
Don't blame the system. You're point is that we should try something else because capitalism isn't working. It's not the system, it's us. You're looking for the best engine that works on sand. You need to get rid of the sand, because you're not going to find the right engine.
[–]bananasandpie -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 1日前 (3子コメント)
Both free market capitalism and communism ignore people, then. Communism assumes that people will work for the collective, rewarded by recprocation; free capitalism assumes that people will work selfishly, rewarded by their own efforts. You demonstrate that capitalism's assumption is bad, but for some reason you choose to say communism "ignores people" when it also has a [similarly bad] assumption.
Not only that, this entire post ignores the underlying point. The comment "consumer apathy is basically the reason capitalism is a shitty system" was made in the context of recent unjustified player suspensions; the point is that people who do not care about ethical issues will financially support companies despite (and sometimes indirectly because of) their breaches in ethics, and this is in fact working in their own interests.
Capitalism is a shitty system because it's inherently unethical (and I say that without commenting on the sustainability of communism).
[–]MrMeltJr 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1日前 (2子コメント)
What ethics are you using here?
[–]bananasandpie 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 1日前 (1子コメント)
Part of me wants to respond like a smart-ass and say "the one that doesn't promote slavery", but I get that that's not really fair and you have asked a reasonable question.
Any system of ethics that doesn't allow starvation in a post-scarcity world would be a good start (uh, I seem to have slipped into smart-assery again, but I think you get the general thing that I'm taking issue with here).
Not that well-versed in philosophy tbh.
[–]MrMeltJr 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, I understand.
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