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[–][deleted] 52ポイント53ポイント54ポイント 1日前 (142子コメント)
Why do so many of you want to kill people who have committed petty crimes? I am not in favor of gun control at all, but I am personally worried about some of the users on this subreddit who carry a gun everyday and seem eager to put it to use.
[–]xandersoizyGlenbrook Valley 23ポイント24ポイント25ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm going to back you up on this. There is this gung-ho attitude of using a gun to solve all sorts of altercations. That, quite frankly, is dangerous and pompous. The fact of the matter is if some robber points a gun at me and asks for my wallet, you bet I'm going to give him my wallet. Its not worth getting in a possible life and death situation over it, just to prove to him a lesson not to mess with someone with a CHL.
[–]necroxd 20ポイント21ポイント22ポイント 1日前 (73子コメント)
Have you ever been a victim of theft? Cops will straight up tell you there is nothing they can do. They might say check local pawn shops or craigslist but the gist of it is they are not going to dedicate resources to it. Next people who work tough jobs see things as time not money. "I worked 14 hours of heavy construction manual labor in the summer." Then some asshole shows up with a jack and beaker bar and decides he wants it. So he's going to take it from you and fuck you over. He's gonna violate your sense of safety and security because he's too much of a lazy fuck to work like you did.
That's precisely why that motherfucker is going to get shot and rightfully so. Do I think he deserves to die? No. Do I think he deserves a bullet hole? Fuck yeah.
[–]Lockjaw7130 46ポイント47ポイント48ポイント 14時間前 (2子コメント)
You are missing the point. The average citizen is not to be the judge of life and death. You don't get to decide that someone "deserves" a bullethole, because that's pretty damn subjective.
[+]necroxd スコアが基準値未満のコメント-23ポイント-22ポイント-21ポイント 14時間前 (0子コメント)
No one deserves to be burgled either but it happens. I didn't get a say as to weather or not I get robbed so he really does t get to have a say in weather or not he gets shot.
[+]rammingparu2 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 3時間前* (0子コメント)
Um, if someone breaks into my house, i will shoot them. I'm not interested in risking my.life or my family's for some two-bit degenerate who needs to resort to home invasions to get anywhere. Fuck off.
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[–]GeauxHouston22 -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 42分前 (0子コメント)
cancer
[–]strong_potato 28ポイント29ポイント30ポイント 15時間前 (11子コメント)
I mean great but who wins here? Dude is dead and you go to prison. Congrats.
[+]necroxd スコアが基準値未満のコメント-28ポイント-27ポイント-26ポイント 15時間前 (10子コメント)
Da fuck you going on about this is Texas cops come collect the body ask questions take your gun and leave.
[–]strong_potato 29ポイント30ポイント31ポイント 14時間前 (9子コメント)
LoL. I bet you're not black. Anyway, good luck with that. Let me know how it works out for you.
[+]necroxd スコアが基準値未満のコメント-30ポイント-29ポイント-28ポイント 14時間前 (8子コメント)
Sounds like something a white person would say. I'm brown actually haven't shaved in a while either. Dad says I'm looking like a terrorist. Should probably shave.
[–]strong_potato 22ポイント23ポイント24ポイント 14時間前 (7子コメント)
Shave or don't. Shooting folks isn't gonna make you look like less of a terrorist tho.
[+]necroxd スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25ポイント-24ポイント-23ポイント 14時間前 (6子コメント)
Why do you assume I'm just shooting at random people. You say it like I'm gonna shoot the guy who cut me off earlier today. Didn't have him the finger though. I'm not running around shooting people. I'm just gonna protect what's mine and family.
Edit: Can't seem to find my razor I'll do it tomorrow.
[–]strong_potato 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 14時間前 (5子コメント)
Good luck bruh.
[+]necroxd スコアが基準値未満のコメント-27ポイント-26ポイント-25ポイント 13時間前 (4子コメント)
You PC bruh?
[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1日前 (22子コメント)
So you want to hurt someone because it will make you feel better? How is that ok?
[–]agsasgagdad 13ポイント14ポイント15ポイント 17時間前 (0子コメント)
It's almost as though Jesus was specifically addressing people like u/necroxd and u/713P when he said:
"…28. bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29. "Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your coat, do not withhold your shirt from him either. 30. "Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back.…"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_the_other_cheek
This undoubtedly pissed people like u/necroxd and u/713P off, which explains why the crowds eventually called for his crucifixion.
I'm sorry you're getting downvoted so much for your opinion. I agree with you completely.
[–]countrytimeOak Forest 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 1日前 (0子コメント)
You have a very optimistic view of the world. Have you ever been a victim of crime?
[–]necroxd 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1日前 (19子コメント)
How is it ok for you to actually defend someone like that? They have no decency or ethics. You hurt them because it will return some of the sense of security and safety that they took. It will help you not feel helpless and vulnerable. You hurt them because they are in your home and are willing to hurt you and your family to make sure they stay free. You hurt them because the old saying play stupid games win stupid prizes.
[–]agsasgagdad 6ポイント7ポイント8ポイント 16時間前 (2子コメント)
I absolutely disagree with you. As a christian, I have to look for guidance in Luke 28-30:
This undoubtedly pissed people like you off. If he kept saying hippy stuff this like this, I can see why the crowds eventually called for his crucifixion.
[+]necroxd スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 16時間前 (1子コメント)
Exodus 22:2-3
If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.
I can bible too also that one big one. Thou shall not steal.
[–]sqfqs 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 8時間前 (0子コメント)
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
[+][deleted] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 23時間前 (15子コメント)
How do you know they have no decency or ethics? It's not a eternally-binding, binary switch. A mostly good person can have a moment of weakness and do something bad.
Regardless, if home invasions were the only instance where I saw people advocating violent force, I would not be complaining, as that is a complex and murky situation. It's when people are openly endorsing shooting someone for taking an Amazon package off a porch that worries me.
[–]713PWebster 8ポイント9ポイント10ポイント 22時間前 (13子コメント)
If someone's moral compass goes off course in a moment of weakness that involves something illegal, then you have low standards for human behavior.
[–][deleted] 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 22時間前 (12子コメント)
My standards must not be low enough, as I still find it unacceptable to extinguish a human life over some shit off of Amazon.
[–]jenn_nicThe Heights 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 22時間前* (5子コメント)
I understand what you're saying, but you are looking at it like the reason to shoot them is for "stuff." It doesn't have anything to do with what is actually stolen. It's the principle of it all. When you go onto people's property and steal, or break into their car, you are risking your own life...you don't know how that person is going to react. In fact, it doesn't even have to be with a gun. It could be a knife or a baseball bat. You really don't know what a person is capable of and for all you know, that is the least horrific crime they have done that day. The point is, don't be a shitty person and you probably won't be killed while being a shitty person. IMO, if you take things that aren't yours or violate someone's sense of safety just because you feel like it, you're a shitty person.
[–][deleted] 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 20時間前 (1子コメント)
The principle of it? A person that commits a crime is still a person. They have family that love them. Friends that care about them. They are a part of someone's best memory. It's a unique person that, once snuffed out, will never exist again. Everything you've ever felt in life, they felt too. Someone's world will end.
All for some shit that will probably be in a dump within a decade.
[+]MisterMaggot スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 15時間前 (0子コメント)
It is my property, I have a right to defend it. Especially in the case of a home break in, if someone is capable of breaking into your home you do not know what else they are capable of and I am not willing to find out the hard way.
[–]713PWebster -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
Well said.
[–]necroxd -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 20時間前 (1子コメント)
You're cool we should be friends.
[–]yzlautumMidtown -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 21時間前 (5子コメント)
I got $30k worth of diamonds that was passed down for several generations stolen from me in a home robbery. They cannot be replaced, at all. I don't even want to attempt to "replace" them either. Not everything that is stolen is from fucking Amazon. Sometimes it is extremely sentimental/valuable/whatever and it is very traumatic. I would have ended their life if I was there at the time.
[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20時間前 (4子コメント)
$30 or $30,000, if you're willing to kill someone over a material good you have some seriously fucked up priorities. You know who else has a sentimental attachment that can't be replaced? The family and friends of the guy you're chomping at the bit to blow away.
[–]yzlautumMidtown 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
$30,000. Thirty thousand dollars worth of irreplaceable diamonds. All have sentimental value. And, they were all loose diamonds because they came from this outrageous ring my relative had that we had melted the gold down from and sold. The diamonds were from her husband at the time or something that he personally cut for her. Family heirloom that would never be sold. I only have 15 small diamonds from it left that I will make into a necklace for my future wife. That is some serious shit. I am definitely willing to kill someone over a material good. As humans, that is ALL WE HAVE besides fellow humans and relationships.
[–]necroxd -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 20時間前 (2子コメント)
You keep coming back to that failing to understand that someone willing to steal doesn't give two shits about how it affects his family because of how selfish the act is.
[+]713PWebster スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14ポイント-13ポイント-12ポイント 1日前* (29子コメント)
You need more upvotes for that statement.
[+]necroxd スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12ポイント-11ポイント-10ポイント 22時間前 (28子コメント)
Thank you kindly.
[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 22時間前 (27子コメント)
Lol, do you actually feel good about being thanked for your ruthlessness by some other sad loser looking for a minority to blast away to feel like a hero?
[–]713PWebster 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 21時間前 (11子コメント)
What makes you believe my heritage isn't that of a minority?
[–]yzlautumMidtown 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
Aren't you hispanic or something?
[–][deleted] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 21時間前 (8子コメント)
What makes you believe that's relevant at all? You don't get a pass to be racist because you're part of a minority group.
[–]713PWebster -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 21時間前 (7子コメント)
No. But I think if you commit a crime, there should be serious consequences if you're caught.
I bet you really love the Islamic laws.
[+][deleted] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6ポイント-5ポイント-4ポイント 21時間前 (6子コメント)
"Really love the Islamic laws"? What the fuck are you even talking about?
[–]713PWebster -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 20時間前 (5子コメント)
Because their punishments are even more harsh for most crimes.
[–]necroxd -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
Where you from my brother from another mother?
[–]yzlautumMidtown 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21時間前 (2子コメント)
looking for a minority
Funny how you are the one who brought that up.
[–][deleted] -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 20時間前 (1子コメント)
Yes, I brought it up. While I'm sure some of the rabid people here are too deep into the bloodlust to really care what color the person on the other side of their violent outburst is, as long as society at large continues to paint an idea of minorities as violent criminals, minorities are more likely to be misidentified as threats. Sorry, this isn't some safe space where you get to ignore greater societal issues to fantasize about violence uninterrupted.
[+]necroxd スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
............ Nigga you racist and you need to come to terms about it. Honkeys be people too yo.
[–]necroxd 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 21時間前* (10子コメント)
This minority says pelame la verga. I bet your white too and a big pusher of white guilt.
Edit: I thanked him because in Texas the Texas thing to do when someone pays you a compliment is thank them like any decent human being would.
[–]ultronisright 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 17時間前 (1子コメント)
white guilt
And I stopped taking you seriously right there. go back to stormfront
[–]necroxd -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 17時間前 (0子コメント)
Why would you take anyone serious on the Internet?
[–][deleted] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 21時間前 (7子コメント)
Oh good, you brought it up with the minority council and all the minorities agreed it's ok for assholes with guns and more impotent rage than brains to shoot at them?
And any decent human being wouldn't be in a position to be thanked for wanting to murder someone over some plastic shit from Amazon you paid $20 for.
[–]713PWebster 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 21時間前 (3子コメント)
I don't care what color, race, educational background, lineage, or what planet you're from.
Get caught in my house or stealing my stuff, odds are that if you do something spectacularly stupid while caught, you're not going to have a good time.
You're a better man than me if I walk in and I see some guy in my living room who shouldn't be there I am drawing and shooting end of discussion. My mindset is I don't know how's he's gonna react to seeing me or if he has backup.
[–]713PWebster -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 14時間前 (1子コメント)
I didn't say how he got caught.
[–]necroxd 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20時間前 (2子コメント)
Who told you about the minority council?!
Also stealing a package is practically a felony since it may or may not count as mail.
On a side note you seem to be extremely fanny flustered about this. Who did you lose? Friend or family?
[–][deleted] -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 20時間前 (1子コメント)
Yeah, I'm the one getting flustered, it's certainly not the weirdos who get chubs over their made-up tacticool scenarios where they valiantly defend their property to the death against some unarmed kid.
[–]necroxd 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
For the record it's not a chub so much as it's an itch on my right index finger.
[–]Swordsteel -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 18時間前 (0子コメント)
I'm with you Krentist. Many people on this sub love the idea of shooting others because it makes them feel powerful. They don't have the will or the way to ascertain power in their own lives, so they turn to guns. It's insecurity.
[–]TotesMessenger 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 20時間前* (0子コメント)
[/r/drama] "Why do so many of you want to kill people who have committed petty crimes?" Users in /r/Houston unholster their sidearms.
[/r/subredditdrama] Shots fired in /r/houston when one user asks 'Why do so many of you want to kill people who have committed petty crimes?'
[–]DistanceSkaterWashington Avenue 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1日前 (53子コメント)
Describe a petty crime that people are being killed over in Houston
[–][deleted] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 1日前 (51子コメント)
My concern is with the users of this subreddit filling any thread about any criminal with violent revenge fantasies. Even if nobody puts those thoughts into action, it's terrible content, but a lot of the users here sound like they are ready to pull a George Zimmerman and blast some poor kid over a petty theft.
[–]woodspuma0023 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 22時間前 (1子コメント)
[–]KrustyKoonKrackers[🍰] -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 16時間前 (0子コメント)
mub da mo bidda te dat tum muhfugen bix nood cof bin dub ho muhfugga
[–]TechnicolorSushiCat 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 23時間前 (3子コメント)
First, many people in these threads mistakenly believe they are in a movie and that latino hordes wait just outside the gate to steal their 2006 mustang or home invade their shitty apartment.
Secondly, there are a lot of terrible, terrible people in houston. Read the comments of any crime article on chron.com. These folks function only on the barest functional level of moral decency (ie: "I do good things because of threat of punishment, not because it's the right thing to do"), and on top of that, they're absolutely goddamned self-righteous barbarians who can barely think.
[–]necroxd -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 22時間前 (2子コメント)
Ey ese you can go to hell man why you gotta say we beaners do all the shit ain't no one saying that here. For the record any carbon try to run up on us or take our shit better believe que lo mandamos a la verga.
[–]tits_n_acidd 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 9時間前* (1子コメント)
El solo es miedo. Permitarnos mostrarle como refinando nuestro cultura es por lo que no es ignorante.
[–]necroxd 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Ohrale
[–]DistanceSkaterWashington Avenue -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 1日前 (21子コメント)
Zimmerman was a loser and a bully. That's .01% of the CHL holding population.
I sleep next to two guns. if anyone touches my motorcycle or comes into my apartment, I will end their life without second thoughts
[–]strong_potato 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 15時間前 (18子コメント)
You really think some bicycle is worth more than human life? Dude come on you're not gonna shoot nobody. Calm down with this internet tough guy bullshit.
[+][削除されました] 12時間前 (9子コメント)
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[–]strong_potato 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 11時間前 (8子コメント)
Have fun in prison then. Good luck.
[–]DistanceSkaterWashington Avenue 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 10時間前 (5子コメント)
No jail time. It's part of the castle doctrine. Welcome to Texas
[–]strong_potato 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 10時間前 (4子コメント)
That shit is not in your house tho. Also my main point is that y'all talk a big game on reddit but in the moment I guarantee you will be less willing to take a human life. This isn't a video game.
[–]DistanceSkaterWashington Avenue -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 9時間前 (3子コメント)
My motorcycle is on my front pouch. Parked 2 feet from where I lay my head at night. We're separated by a window. I promise I would open fire on anyone if I woke up to them on my porch trying to push my motorcycle out into the street.
[+][削除されました] 11時間前 (1子コメント)
[–]strong_potato 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
Except they're gonna know you didn't and now you lied to a cop.
[–]DistanceSkaterWashington Avenue -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 12時間前 (7子コメント)
Strong user name to post content ratio.
I'd definitely shoot someone if I woke up to them loading my motorcycle into the back of a van/truck.
[–]strong_potato 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 11時間前 (6子コメント)
For one I literally do not believe you. also you'd have better luck writing down their license plate number and calling the cops. If you just go out there and shoot them that really isn't self defense.
Y'all are some internet tough guys up in this thread.
[–]DistanceSkaterWashington Avenue -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 10時間前 (5子コメント)
Lol. you don't even know me yet you're coming in here telling me what I would and wouldn't do.
Who's the Internet tough guy?
[–]strong_potato 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 10時間前 (4子コメント)
Not me. I know if someone was taking my shit I'd be to scared to literally kill him. Also I've never owned a gun.
I get that you truly THINK that you would kill a man over your oh so valuable possessions but I'm saying that we don't always have a good grasp on how we'll really react in stressful situations. Like ok maybe you would go all rambo to save a bicycle but I bet you're just as likely to tense up and just call the cops.
You keep saying bicycle so I can't take you seriously. I feel like you're trolling me.
I clearly stated it's my MOTORCYCLE and it's my only source of transportation.
Regardless of what it is, if someone opened the chain link gate to my garage apartment, walked up to my front porch and started rummaging through my belongings. (Motorcycle, bicycle, BBQ grill etc etc) I'm opening the front door with my .40 locked and loaded. End of discussion.
Just because you don't own a gun or couldn't handle a stressful situation like that doesn't mean no one can.
[–]yzlautumMidtown 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 21時間前 (0子コメント)
Been broken into, twice. Once in Uptown and then moved to Midtown and it happened again. I own a townhouse in Oak Forest and somehow that hasn't been messed with. I will shoot your fucking ass if you come into one of my places while I am there. It is a traumatic experience to be broken into.
[–]hoboballs 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間前 (0子コメント)
Micropenis detected
[–]FARTBOX_DESTROYERJersey Village 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
Zimmerman
Ah, Jesus, you've done it now
[–]necroxd -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 22時間前 (21子コメント)
Zimmerman was a shitbag and so was Martin. Martin was in the clear and decided to go back and fight Zimmerman, Zimmerman got his face punched in and his head slammed and pulled his gun instead of waiting for the cops.
[–]Diesel-66 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11時間前 (1子コメント)
A man is on top of you punching your face and bouncing your head off of the cement.
How is "waiting for the cops" an option at that moment ?
[–]necroxd 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 11時間前 (0子コメント)
I'd like to change my statement to now Zimmerman is a shit head and concede this argument to you.
[–]yzlautumMidtown -4ポイント-3ポイント-2ポイント 21時間前 (18子コメント)
Not trying to get on a Zimmer topic but I don't think he was a shitbag. I think something bad happened and then the whole world decided to hate him, especially when he was acquitted. Now he is just fucking up because he is always looking over his shoulder. Kinda feel bad for him honestly. Ok no more Zimmerman talk.
[–]necroxd 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 20時間前 (0子コメント)
Bro a year ago I would have been a 100% on your side. After the Twitter thing and then this latest incident holy shit.
[–]strong_potato 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 15時間前 (16子コメント)
Idk dude. He's kinda shitty. You don't shoot a child cuz you lost a fight. Like his ego was bruised so he shot and killed a child. That's fucked up.
[–]yzlautumMidtown -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 14時間前 (15子コメント)
A 17 year old is not a child. If a dude attacks you and you act in self defense then whatever. People can cry all they want but that is what the facts are and what the jury ruled. It is the same thing as ostracizing a false rape victim. You cannot deny that and if you do, you are fucking stupid.
[–]strong_potato 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 14時間前 (14子コメント)
Legally a 17 year old is a child in the state of Florida. Your boy Georgie could have defended himself in lots of ways other than shooting a literal child. If you get punched punch the fuck back. Don't lay on your ass like a bitch and then shoot a kid.
27 year olds shouldn't be losing fights to teenagers. Homeboy should have hit the gym.
[–]yzlautumMidtown -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 13時間前 (13子コメント)
Does not matter. He was acquitted. Get over it.
[–]strong_potato 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 13時間前 (12子コメント)
Tell that to the family of the child he killed.
[–]balletboy -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 22時間前 (0子コメント)
I've had my house broken into three times. I'm tired of it.
[+]Blue_Rhythmic_Eagle スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15ポイント-14ポイント-13ポイント 22時間前 (9子コメント)
In countries with strict gun control, petty crime is absolutely rampant. The threat of death keeps people in line better than any other incentive.
[–]xandersoizyGlenbrook Valley 17ポイント18ポイント19ポイント 21時間前 (7子コメント)
Source? I find this pretty dubious and difficult to prove since petty crime is 'rampant' in almost every big city. This is a pretty bold statement considering just in the US alone, the states with the highest crime rates are more likely to be in states with lax gun-control.
And the safest countries in the world tend to be northern European, East Asian or Island nations. Of which the majority have very strict gun laws.
I guess petty crime in Norway, Sweden, Austria, Singapore, Japan, etc. is off the charts?
[+]Blue_Rhythmic_Eagle スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7ポイント-6ポイント-5ポイント 20時間前* (5子コメント)
All I know is when I travel internationally to countries with strict gun control, including Western Europe, there are all sorts of precautions you must take that you simply do not have take anywhere else except for maybe New York City.
Paris, Berlin, Rome, even London, all have pickpockets, scammers, and thieves on a level that's not like anything I have ever encountered in the USA.
I just wrote a paper on gun control and I researched the crime statistics worldwide. There is no causation between gun laws and gun crime. Gun crime occurs in areas with specific, almost universal factors. The most gun crime occurs in border regions, drug trafficking hubs, and impoverished communities--all of which describe Houston. I did not use these links in my paper, but I just googled them just now. http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/does-strict-gun-legislation-reduce-violent-crime-in-latam
The least violent nations are all relatively small, homogeneous populations. http://nakedlaw.avvo.com/crime/the-6-least-violent-nations-in-the-world.html
Gun control measures only work in those countries because they are already non-violent nations to begin with. It's the socioeconomic factors that controls guns and determines violent crime rates, not legislation. If "gun control" measures worked, shouldn't we see Brazil and Mexico on that list?
[–]xandersoizyGlenbrook Valley 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 19時間前* (4子コメント)
Thanks for the info and I agree that there is little to support a direct causation with gun laws and gun crime. It is socioeconomic forces that generate violent crimes more than any other factor. But I wouldn't compare Mexico and Brazil which have massive corruption problems and human rights violations with developed countries that, for the most part, are not corrupt. You should have tested what the historic violent crime rates were in the countries of Western and Northern Europe before and after gun restrictions. I would argue there was definitely a strong 'correlation'.
Also the same could be said about there being no 'causation' with less gun restrictions contributing to lower crime.
However, your claim that petty crime is rampant due to strict gun laws is still dubious. I'm pretty sure that there are some socioeconomic factors that play a big part in that too. If that's the case, how come Houston tops many Home Burglary charts? I guess that isn't petty, but its nonviolent and the cities you listed are very diverse, dense, urban and public transit heavy. It's hard to pick pocket someone when they are driving in their car on 610.
Edit: grammar and clarification
[–]Blue_Rhythmic_Eagle -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 18時間前 (3子コメント)
Petty crime is rampant for the simple fact that the opportunity exists for it to occur. Most crime is opportunistic. Criminals are bold when they know they will face no consequences for their actions. An armed society is an effective deterrent. Regardless of whatever restrictions are put in place, if the society is saturated with firearms, a thief has to make a risk-reward analysis that thieves in disarmed societies don't have to make. You can go to any congested area in a big US city and there is only a very tiny risk you will be the victim of petty crime. In my experience, this is not the case in Europe. A culture of thievery exists in Europe, Asia, and Latin America that just plain doesn't exist in the USA. Why? Because 1. socioeconomic factors, 2. firearms proliferation.
There are subcultures of thieves in Germany. They are taught from childhood how to pickpocket, how to steal, how to scam--they learn to do this for a living, this is their job. They have them in Brazil. They have them in Mexico. They have them in South Africa. They have them in Thailand. They have them France and Italy. That type of subculture, for the most part, does not exist in the USA. What separates American culture from the rest is the respect for private property and the ability of private citizens to defend their property and bodies with lethal force. This right does not exist in most countries. You can go to prison in most other countries for killing somebody in self defense.
[–]xandersoizyGlenbrook Valley 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 18時間前 (2子コメント)
Petty crime is rampant for the simple fact that the opportunity exists for it to occur. Most crime is opportunistic.
You summed up what I'm trying to say. The opportunity to pick-pocket someone or scam them is greatly increased when you are crammed in a subway with many different people of varying classes. The only US city you yourself said might be an exception for higher petty crime is NYC, well that so happens to be one of the only us cities that fit the criteria I outlined in my earlier comment.
How do you account for Eastern Europe's minimal gun regulations and high rates of petty crime?
[–]Blue_Rhythmic_Eagle 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 17時間前 (1子コメント)
Probably the same reason that Honduras, with it's light restrictions on firearms possession is still one of the most violent and crime ridden countries on Earth.
Aside from socioeconomic factors, we need to also factor in the culture. Do former Soviet bloc countries, or those in the former Yugoslavia generally have a high respect for private property? Eastern Europe is a major drug and human trafficking hub. Something that is overlooked: 90% of the heroin coming into Europe in the 90's was coming through Kosovo and there are some that believe the NATO action there was really about protecting drug smuggling routes (but that's another topic ;) )
[–]xandersoizyGlenbrook Valley 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 7分前 (0子コメント)
Exactly, I think we agree more than we disagree. Just for the record, I'm not necessarily anti-gun, just indifferent. I don't see lethal force as a major deterrent for crime any more than non-lethal force.
[–]necroxd -5ポイント-4ポイント-3ポイント 19時間前 (0子コメント)
Petty crime in Australia had been increasing so have assaults same can be said about the European countries. Japan is the only one where it hasn't and that's because of how the culture is engraved drastically into them also there's been stories and article about crime purposely not being accounted for to make numbers look good.
It also stops terrorism remember the art exhibit incident. Fuckers didn't even make it out of the parking lot.
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