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[–]chewinchawingumPokémon Nintendo killer cop[S] 45ポイント46ポイント  (14子コメント)

In which once again an actual journalist shows Milo Yiannopoulos how journalism is done. I particularly like the note at the end of the article:

Note: After I reached out to Yiannopoulos and while this article was being copyedited, I noticed that he or someone else at Breitbart had begun altering the article. First, an alleged was sneaked into the headline to soften the claim about government involvement — I confirmed this by checking an archived version I had saved earlier using archive.is. Then an editor's note materialized at the end: "Editor’s Note: since the publication of this story, conflicting information has arisen about the source of advice to the school that GamerGate was a hate movement. We have once again requested comment from the headmaster." Make what you will of the "again requested comment" line, but there was nothing in the original article stating Yiannopoulos had reached out to the school.

Update by Singal:

Update: In email correspondence, Yiannopoulos told me he spoke with an administrator at the school on November 13 and that that administrator told him the GamerGate terror warning had come from "the government." "I phoned them three times on 13 November and spoke to a college administrator who was aware of the situation," he wrote. The original article didn't include any mention of this conversation.

Further update by Singal:

Is @Nero lying about having spoken to the school about that explosive #GamerGate claim?? The school thinks so

[–]casersatzKeep Gamerica Gamerican![🍰] 33ポイント34ポイント  (0子コメント)

Behold the ethical journalism which Gamergate has wrought!

[–]AsteroidSparkSterling Jim Worshiper 23ポイント24ポイント  (3子コメント)

If there's one thing Breitbart loves, it's faking source verification. Remember that lawsuit they lost for doctoring rrcordings? Or how they claimed that they contacted Srhbutts family and "confirmed" their hitpiece with them?

[–]samjak 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

To gators, "Breitbart saying something" is a valid source.

[–]EvanHarperFight Club is a good and important movie. 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have this vague idea that way back more than a year ago when Breitbart first began exploiting GamerGate, there was some minor self-awareness on KiA, either actual controversy about whether to start trusting Breitbart, or at least incredulousness about "Gosh, isn't it odd how this normally shitty dishonest site turns out to be right about this one issue..."

Am I just imagining that? It's hard to remember now because they've doubled and quadrupled and octupled down on their right-wing bullshit so many times since then.

[–]Cromagnerd 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They started pulling way from Brietbart, but Milo came through for one of his many AMAs recently and basically said "it'd be a shame if you turned against us...." .. i think it spooked a few people from sniffing around him further and just left more far right posters behind after they left

[–]gdshaffeThe Sock was Impromptu, I Have Proof 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, it's about ethics in ninja editing.

[–]dayrise 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

In the span of only months, Milo and Brietbart have been more unethical than the sites that KiA regularly insult - probably moreso than the incidents that started this whole thing in the first place. I mean, they're just authentically unethical - not even in the "this site parrots an opinion I don't like" or "click-bait headline" sort of way many regularly rally against. It's so sickening because it's so obvious, only the willfully oblivious would not notice that time and time again Milo and Breitbart are absolutely horrible even if Kotaku et al are as well.

It goes to evidence pile that many in Gamergate were likely never motivated by the ethics of their news sources, but rather the audacity of sites to say they weren't to be pandered to. When agreeing with you is all it takes to let your guard down and give them a second and third pass, it's just a sick perversion of ethical concepts.

[–]EthicsInSTFUBeta White Cuck 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Milo knows that if you relentlessly flatter your audience, they'll always support you.

[–]churakaagii社会正義戦士 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's different kinds of unethical bullshit. The general game industry has issues with collusion between journalists and publishers (for various complex reasons); Brietbart just makes shit up to suit their agenda. You could have an argument for which one is the worse failure of journalistic integrity.

But if you truly intended to stand for ethical behavior in journalism, you would not put up with either one. And it's a lot easier to see direct evidence of Brietbart's shenanigans. Not that anyone isn't already aware that the whole "ethics" thing is a sham.

[–]EthicsInSTFUBeta White Cuck 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

KiA are spinning that as "Singal verified Milo's article", which shows a) they can't read and b) they don't know real journalism when they see it.

As for Milo, either he forgot to put the pertinent information in his article or he is lying about having contacted the school. His behavior on Twitter supports the latter hypothesis. He really fucked up.

[–]CaelrieNew Mod, Same Great Oppression! 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

a) they can't read

Is there seriously any doubt left at this point? That point comes up again and again and again. Gators are absolute shit at reading.

[–]LostAccountant 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

But gamergate is totally not a conspiracy movement (-:

[–]AyChihuahua@iglvzx 27ポイント28ポイント  (20子コメント)

Breitbart being unethical and manufacturing outrage?... You don't say.

Will GG call out Milo and have Milo swoop in with another long reddit comment full of dogwhistles and emotional blackmail about why GG absolutely shouldn't stop being so supportive of his "journalism"?

(Edit: The last time Milo managed to lure GG back in after Breitbart got called out for blatant unethical reporting: https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/3jps46/ethics_breitbart_pulls_a_gawker_publically_shames/cus15mi )

Find out next time on Dragon Ball GG.

[–]vitsikanyfeminist gazpacho 19ポイント20ポイント  (8子コメント)

Find out next time on Dragon Ball GG.

In which it takes Sargon 21 minutes to scream the first three syllables of "FEMINAZI" at some girl on youtube.

[–]NarkySawtooth♪Social Justice Narwhal♪ 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only a true warrior could possibly master the Femenazeha!

[–]vitsikanyfeminist gazpacho 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kakarot? More like CUCKarot amirite?

[–]DashCat9Sensitive Joss Whedon 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Only 21 minutes??? Clearly this was after he went Super Sargon.

[–]dudeseriouslyno#FrameBrownPeopleWeDontLikeAsTerroristsRightAfterMassMurdersGate 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'll have you know, you baka gaijin casual, that the original nihongo name is Super Sargajin.

[–]churakaagii社会正義戦士 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's Supaa Sarugajin.

You American otaku need to better understand before making corrections.

[–]noodlewormEss jay duble-who? 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was right about to point out that wasn't a proper conversion of katakana to Romanji, but you beat me to it.

[–]DashCat9Sensitive Joss Whedon 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I love absolutely every single thing about this thread. And now I'm going to go watch some DBZ Kai.

[–]tomtom_94this flair is not ethics in games journalism 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

FEMINA-ME-HAAAAAAAH

[–]Ethics_in_Botulism40% Ethics by Volume 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Will GG call out Milo and have Milo swoop in with another long reddit comment full of dogwhistles and emotional blackmail about why GG absolutely shouldn't stop being so supportive of his "journalism"?

I will leave out extra popcorn on christmas eve if Santa can make this happen.

[–]AyChihuahua@iglvzx 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]Ethics_in_Botulism40% Ethics by Volume 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I remember that. It was one of the few times I felt pity for ardent gamergaters.

Yet they've apparently learned nothing from that experience.

[–]SoA990Kin Corn Cuck 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Worst series of Dragon Ball ever! I'd rather watch Dragon Ball GT.

Seriously, I've seen a bunch of people on AgainstGamerGate and GGDiscussion claim that KiA is critical of Milo but they keep coming back to him instead of kicking his ass to the curb if they were really fed up with unethical journalism.

[–]QuintinStone⊰ 👣 Pro-sock, Anti-chocobo 🐤 ⊱ 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

They can't even get rid of The Ralph Retort.

[–]mapper3Actually it's about Malethics 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

AgainstGamerGate is a joke sub tbh.

[–]SoA990Kin Corn Cuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Really they both are. IIRC, GGDiscussion was created because pro-GG members believed that AgainstGamerGate was too biased against them so they set out to make their own faux debate sub.

[–]mapper3Actually it's about Malethics 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kek, saying anything as an anti on either sub gets you innundated in the same dumb GG cliches ("You're just like every other anti! Anita Sarkeesian is a bitch!")

[–]CaelrieNew Mod, Same Great Oppression! 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You want to know the quality of GGDiscussion?

It's ok to be a bigot there. You can say all the racist, sexist, homophobic and transphobic shit you want. But if you call that bigot a bigot, you get banned.

[–]SoA990Kin Corn Cuck 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, pretty much. I posted a little bit on AGG but barely on GGDiscussion for that exact reason.

[–]takeashill_pillsmiles like a white person 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

God, can these people say anyhing in less than 3000 words?

[–]TolPM71 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you want a vision of the future, Breitbart Tech tells it readers daily, imagine a lesbian stamping on your anime collectibles — forever.

Fan art pls.

[–]churakaagii社会正義戦士 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

As a lesbian with some anime collectibles, I could both provide this AND have it become one of my kinks... The possibilities.

[–]Nervousaboutposting 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

GamerBait is an excellent word to describe what Breitbart does these days. Breitbart "Tech" is basically a new GamerBait division.

[–]xenoghost1preist of the religion of ethics 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

but clickbait is something only SJWs are capable of doing! /s

[–]monsieur_n 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I prefer GamerBate; they're not baiting in new readers, just circlejerking in their own toxic space.

[–]ElephantAmoreI've got my Orange Crush. 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

It must be nice to get paid to do nothing but regurgitate nonsense.

[–]chiphappyCultural Supioritarian 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Accidentally submitted this at the same moment you did.

All I can really say is what I said yesterday when this popped up. It does not in any way look like an official handout from the UK government. It looks like something someone slapped together in about an hour. No idea how this got any traction without basic verification.

[–]BlackFragI'm already just a skeleton 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Breitbart and journalism are two words that don't belong in the same sentence. That's just the last example. And that's why every time someone uses a link to Breitbart to prove something the only thing to do is laugh.

[–]wightjiltSchrodinger's Cuck 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

This just in: Milo Yiannopoulos is a liar and a shyster. Other shocking news: Grass grows, the sky is blue, and Breitbart wouldn't know ethics if it politely introduced itself.

[–]takeashill_pillsmiles like a white person 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Over at KIA they're calling him "jealous" and "salty." It seems like they just throw buzzwords at anyone who makes them look like idiots.

[–]chewinchawingumPokémon Nintendo killer cop[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Being a journalist who actually cares about honesty and integrity is apparently evidence of saltiness.

[–]EthicsInSTFUBeta White Cuck 7ポイント8ポイント  (5子コメント)

Milo is responding on Twitter with self aggrandizement and insults:

No one would know your name without me. Your response to this humiliating fact is to attack my readers. Idiot.

Is "Yiannopoulos" Greek for "Glass Jaw"?

Plus, Milo did the best job of attacking his readers when he called them "pungent betas".

Edit: Reading on, I see Jesse really got to Milo. Like, really hurt Milo's feelings. Lololol.

Edit 2: Sociopath Devi Ever - who left GG for thirty seconds because of Milo - is now defending Milo. What a car crash.

[–]chewinchawingumPokémon Nintendo killer cop[S] 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hilarious. Singal is actually a well-respected reporter who works for well-respected outlets, which is not something that Yiannopoulos can say about himself.

When the majority of people know Yiannopoulos' name because he's a laughingstock, well, that's not really something to brag about.

[–]EthicsInSTFUBeta White Cuck 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Best of all is Singal's utter bemusement at their language. I guess being called a "cuck" isn't quite the damaging blow they think it is.

[–]mst3kluvMilo has a journalism degree from Chuck E Cheese 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

After all, everyone knows that black men are whiteys superiors.

/s

[–]ChurbaGOU I don't condone harrasment 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

When the majority of people know Yiannopoulos' name because he's a laughingstock, well, that's not really something to brag about.

Having got my start in the British press - this is literally true. The people who do know of him - surprisingly few - know him as a complete joke.

Singal, however, has a considerably better reputation, and one that's better known to boot.

[–]casersatzKeep Gamerica Gamerican![🍰] 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'd like to announce the debut of my new blog: Conspiracies Revealed From Overheard Conversations.

You'll never believe the hot scoop that I got from this guy sitting at the back of the bus muttering to himself!

[–]LIATG 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey, would you mind crossposting this to /r/BreitbartInAction?

[–]chewinchawingumPokémon Nintendo killer cop[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Done.

[–]The_69_EyesYore honors, case closed 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aww fuck! I'd hoped and prayed this was actually true! Boo Milo for making me think my government cared about the treatment of women online..

[–]iamspacedadPsy-ops Specialist 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Looks like I was right on my instincts to not trust anything Milo had to say.

Also I didn't hear about it being lumped in with terrorist groups. Hate groups definitely, but putting them next to Isis? Yeah no. At most you could say what they engage in is a very low-grade terrorism with stuff like swatting - and even that is iffy territory. So OF COURSE it turns out Milo is barking out his butt about this.

But yeah, calling gamegate a hate group is calling a spade a spade.

[–]CaelrieNew Mod, Same Great Oppression! 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Looks like I was right on my instincts to not trust anything Milo had to say.

At this point I don't think that even needs instinct anymore. It's just a given that you can't trust Milo to tell the truth.

[–]safewoodchipperCuckzilla 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

thinly sourced GamerGate-bait or, as it shall henceforth be known, GamerBait.

uhhh I dunno, I kinda prefer GatorBait myself

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[–]LordSepulchrave 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the British government thought Gamergate was a terror group, they'd have passed a majority vote to bomb the fuck out of them with Tornado jets.

Yep, feeling very salty about that...

[–]TheKasp⁂Social Justice Berserker⁂ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Milo being unethical? Oh my, what news!

[–]euchrid3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

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