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Stop saying you're first world, Americans. These are actual first world problems. (imgur.com)

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[–]TheNovelNovelty 725ポイント726ポイント  (103子コメント)

The concept of the First World originated during the Cold War and included countries that were generally aligned with or on friendly terms with the United States (including all NATO countries) and were generally identified as non-theocratic democracies with primarily market-based economies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_World

Oh it seems that the US has stopped being friendly with the US. Thanks OP!

[–]Poemi 533ポイント534ポイント  (39子コメント)

As usual, the thing that Europeans are saying they're better at than the US was actually invented by Americans.

[–]MajorMajorObvious 338ポイント339ポイント  (30子コメント)

Through a medium invented by Americans -- the internet.

[–]hetmankp 39ポイント40ポイント  (3子コメント)

So a bit like the way the British invented some of the world's most popular sports... and are terrible at them?

[–]MrLiamD 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey, there are times throughout history where we have been slightly better than terrible at some of the sports we invented and you fucking know it.

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    [–]PenguinPerson 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Oh it seems that the US has stopped being friendly with the US.

    Well I mean... it kinda has.

    [–]jsveiga 17ポイント18ポイント  (18子コメント)

    So by that definition, I'm living in the First World for years, thinking it's the Third! (Brazil). After WW2 we were not a democracy for a long time, but we have been for a while. Or does it mean that once Third World, forever Third World?

    [–]TheNovelNovelty 80ポイント81ポイント  (13子コメント)

    The 1st/2nd/3rd world terms were never meant to represent quality of life, only political alignment on the world stage.

    [–]Snuffsis 36ポイント37ポイント  (11子コメント)

    That is the old definition. It has changed since the cold war ended, and it is now used to separate countries based on their development in economics, technology and such.

    [–]CBERT117 12ポイント13ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Colloquially perhaps. But not officially.

    [–]jdsee 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Who exactly do you think is responsible for "officially" changing what a term means?

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/first%20world

    [–]ForgettableUsername 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Any changes to the meanings of English words have to be personally approved by Dr. Samuel Johnson.

    [–]CBERT117 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Certainly not the dictionary. And glibly quoting a dictionary definition is pedantic and ignores the realities of the issue at hand. There's little authority or merit in citing dictionaries without context. This term has a deep history with lot of meaning entangled in it; people misusing it today doesn't reflect that.

    To answer your question, those responsible for changing this particular term would be NATO, who adopted the terminology officially from demographer Alfred Sauvy. It doesn't rest with uninformed people misusing it.

    [–]IICVX 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's not used officially at all because it's utterly meaningless now that the USSR has fallen.

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      [–]Dinok410 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Actually it is just plain wrong nowadays, as you said since the cold war ended and thus socialism (at least its greatest force), this definitions have no meaning because otherwise the whole world (excluding maybe Cuba, China and some others) would be considered "1st world". And since then new, better fitting terms have come up, such as developed and underdeveloped countries

      [–]ikescurvy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Not really. The technical term for the separate what is considered first and third world is Global North and Global South.

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          [–]iMogwai 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Today, the First World is slightly outdated and has no official definition, however, it is generally thought of as the capitalist, industrial, wealthy and developed countries. This definition included most of the countries of North America, Western Europe, Australasia and Japan.[2] In contemporary society, the First World is viewed as countries that have the most advanced economies, the greatest influence, the highest standards of living, and the greatest technology.

          I'm not saying OP's right though, I'm just saying you're quoting the wrong part.

          [–]famouscomposer 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You are now a moderator of /r/MURICA

          [–]selfhatingyank[S] 16ポイント17ポイント  (10子コメント)

          Oh it seems that the US has stopped being friendly with the US.

          The US hasn't been on speaking terms with itself since 2008. Thanks Obama.

          [–]Tonkarz 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

          That definition is long out of date. "Second world" referred to the USSR for crying out loud.

          [–]TheNovelNovelty 18ポイント19ポイント  (7子コメント)

          Then you should be complaining to OP for using an outdated term in the title, not me for telling him what the terms actually mean.

          [–]angst_hussler 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Hater's gonna hate

          [–]JoshSidekick 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Well, I mean technically, if you look at how we're treating ourselves...

          [–]mobizque2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          To this I say "Who cares?" The meaning of "first world" has changed through common usage and understanding.

          [–]HiggsBoson_82 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          That's actually a really cool fact.

          [–]JMile69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          We've never been very nice to ourselves. Fuck you the south!

          [–]LattesKill 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Ironically, depending on where this post is referencing; there's a good chance it was once considered 2nd or 3rd world..

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            [–]simjanes2k 458ポイント459ポイント  (185子コメント)

            free travel through Western and Central Europe

            Yeah, I can also travel through the States. Which is about the same size.

            [–]FranciscoEverywhere 179ポイント180ポイント  (31子コメント)

            http://imgur.com/Ed86A5F

            [–]Elliotm77 34ポイント35ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Ah so Munich to Paris is like Houston to Big Bend. Lol

            [–]kihadat 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I didn't realize how far Munich was from Paris.

            [–]djsteveoh 9ポイント10ポイント  (9子コメント)

            Interesting... can I get a world map to scale?

            [–]Threeleggedchicken 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Now someone do Alaska.

            [–]MyKDsBiggerThanYours 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            lmfao.

            [–]CarrionComfort 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Paris to Munich, Amsterdam to Venice; all within Texas. That's a neat fun fact.

            [–]therealflinchy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            huh i didn't know france was so much bigger than other countries there.

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              [–]GoonCommaThe 229ポイント230ポイント  (26子コメント)

              And with more diverse landscapes.

              [–]theonlybluecow 51ポイント52ポイント  (48子コメント)

              I don't think most Europeans realize just how big the United States is. The surface area of the great lakes (a few large freshwater lakes in the midwest) have a larger surface area than Great Britain.

              [–]Xrayruester 33ポイント34ポイント  (3子コメント)

              Rough idea of the size

              [–]luvuu 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

              It took me a realize that those weren't the great lakes exactly laid out as they should be. Just a little bit shame as I live smack dab in the middle of them.

              [–]Vlisa 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

              in the middle of them.

              Doesn't that get a little wet?

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                [–]MrLiamD 17ポイント18ポイント  (12子コメント)

                I'm from Europe and I once travelled from LA to New York by car going a south route, but making large detours and visiting 17 states or so. It is obviously enormous, and there is more diversity than some Europeans give it credit for, but those who say there's just as much cultural diversity throughout the US as Europe are completely misguided, and I would imagine they've never been to Europe, and probably haven't even seen that much of the US. There is far, far more cultural diversity in Europe, and a hell of a lot more history.

                [–]franzn 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Americans got thousands of years of history too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_cultures_in_the_United_States

                [–]AsskickMcGee 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Through all of Europe? Of course. But not within any one of the countries. And from a climate standpoint, there is pretty much the same diversity.

                So when it comes to planning vacations, a lot of Americans will stay in the country.

                [–]MrLiamD 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                We weren't comparing USA to one country though were we. Free travel was what was being talked about, and the difference between USA and Europe in size and diversity. Travelling from one European country to another is often as easy as from one state to the next. They will, and I find it to be a shame. I personally think a lot of people are missing out by not exploring other cultures. If you can't afford it or have trouble travelling long distance, it's absolutely fair enough, but if you can I really don't see why you'd go to another state rather than another country, South America, the Caribbean, Europe, Asia, Africa, anywhere really. From an outsider's point of view it just feels like a large portion of your country are a bit too insular. This came from a rather douchey looking guy in a museum in Amsterdam so ignore if you want, but he was an American guy talking about how they/you are taught that USA is the best place to be and never to bother going elsewhere, and how he found on his travels that this is dead wrong and everyone is missing out on so much.

                [–]pixl_graphix 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                In the U.S. a hundred years is a long time, in Europe 100 miles is a long way.

                [–]MrDannyOcean 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                but those who say there's just as much cultural diversity throughout the US as Europe are completely misguided

                Who says that? not anyone i've heard.

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                  [–]The_Real_Voldermort 12ポイント13ポイント  (14子コメント)

                  I also don't think most Europeans realize just how much lower our taxes are. It's adorable when they talk about their "free" healthcare and "free" tuition without mentioning their obscene tax rates.

                  [–]SchwarzerRhobar 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  It's true, I always wonder how cheap electronic devices or food is in the US.

                  But then again I can afford European food because I'm not broke from my education.

                  [–]OThomson 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

                  But in real terms we keep more of our money because it's not being used to pay for ridiculously overpriced drugs, ridiculously overpriced co-payments, etc, etc We have a school system where we don't have to set aside money to pay for a good school because we have a robust education system paid for by tax which benefits everyone. So yes i much prefer to pay my taxes and not be crippled by any of the above things.

                  [–]The_Real_Voldermort 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

                  I don't know about any of that.

                  I mean I guess it benefits you if you're a poor college student or poor recent college grad but by the time you're 30, I imagine the average American comes out far ahead of the average European. Once you have a good job with good benefits, you're not really paying ridiculously overpriced drugs or co-payments. Colleges vary in cost and anyone can get a great education within their price range but have you looked at the difference in rankings between U.S. and European schools?

                  Thanks, but I would rather be an American any day.

                  [–]DrYoda 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Millions of Americans are crippled by health-care bills and student loans

                  [–]The_Real_Voldermort 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  But millions in a nation with several hundreds of million people represents an extremely small percentage of Americans overall.

                  If the average American is crippled it's because he has so much disposable income that he or she is able to eat himself to death. It's beautiful.

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                      [–]DickPuppet 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Yes and no. Americans by far spend the most per capita on health care. If we implemented a single payer system, you would very likely end up paying less than you are now, although the quality of your health care might diminish and you may have fewer options. But still, the whole half welfare state with Medicare and Medicaid and half insurance based health care but where everyone has to have health insurance so the insurance companies are free to hike prices is just a giant inefficient clusterfuck. I'm not saying single payer is the best fix to the problem, but almost anything is better than what we have now.

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                          [–]AnotherAnotherJosh 21ポイント22ポイント  (38子コメント)

                          I like how you ignored healthcare, tuition, and pensions.

                          [–]floatvoid 35ポイント36ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You see a win, you take it.

                          [–]B00YAY 65ポイント66ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          T A X E S. It isn't free. It's a difference of who foots the bill.

                          [–]clam_cheese 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          USA Govt still spends more per capita on Healthcare than most nations with social healthcare AND their citizens they still have to pay for their own private health insurance.

                          [–]thedugong 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It is significantly cheaper as measured by % of GDP.

                          http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.TOTL.ZS

                          And with generally better results:

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

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                            [–]THROWINCONDOMSATSLUT 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Yes and the original post ignored how high the unemployment rates are in many European countries (France is over 10% right now whereas the US is half of that).

                            [–]Rekksu 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income#Median_equivalized_disposable_household_income_.28PPP.29_.24

                            >yuropoors

                            [–]scuba7183 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Choosing one thing does not mean ignoring the others

                            [–]von_Hytecket 39ポイント40ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            A temporarily embarrassed millionaire doesn't need that you silly twat

                            [–]XJ-0461 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Social security and state colleges partially cover two of those.

                            [–]LionRaider13 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I have all three, plus housing and food. Plus I am an American.

                            [–]fat_italian_stallion 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I like how you ignored that the U.S. is hegemon, with no European power even in close running to take that position.

                            [–]I_worship_odin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            My tuition was free. Scholarships, yo.

                            [–]Dont_be_poor 6ポイント7ポイント  (17子コメント)

                            Nothing is free. You're paying for your "free" healthcare in taxes. Amazing you don't see that.

                            [–]zanbato 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            Fun fact, in Canada, I paid less in taxes towards healthcare than I pay for healthcare in the US. I think I actually paid less tax overall than I pay in the US as well.

                            [–]clam_cheese 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

                            USA Govt still spends more per capita on Healthcare than most nations with social healthcare AND their citizens they still have to pay for their own private health insurance.

                            So you pay for it in TAXES and your health insurance.

                            We only pay once, you pay twice :)

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                                [–]nsfgsfgn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Yeah, it's the health care, pension and reasonable tuition that are relevant though.

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                                  [–]SecretCatPolicy 147ポイント148ポイント  (35子コメント)

                                  Lucky you! Here in the UK, tuition fees are £9000 a year, the free healthcare is overstressed and hanging by a thread, the pensions are laughably inadequate and travel is expensive too. And it's drizzling.

                                  Hang on...

                                  [–]huihuichangbot 62ポイント63ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                  You should come to Canada. I was on a waiting list for a kidney stone removal for five months.

                                  [–]phthalo_freakin_blue 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  I didn't have to wait on a list to have my gallbladder removed. Nope. 'MURICA! YAY!

                                  But I did have to delay the process for two years because I didn't have insurance. 'Murica. Yaaaaay.

                                  [–]SecretCatPolicy 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                  That sounds fairly quick compared to Britain.

                                  [–]MrLiamD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                  To be fair I've used hospitals way more than the average 23 year old, and the longest I've had to wait for anything was a month and that was the one time I used private healthcare that my dad was on. Went back to the NHS and minimal waiting times. I understand this might only be true of my area though, and if so I guess I just got lucky.

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                                    [–]MorDon1 11ポイント12ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                    But we aren't in crazy debt really. The repayment system is quite fair.

                                    [–]zbend 25ポイント26ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                    All those doctors working out of the kindness of their hearts are finally getting tired of it huh? I sure love when people call it free health care.

                                    [–]MrLiamD 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    We're basically the America of Europe but in mostly bad ways, but we got the weather of Seattle rather than California. At least we get the NHS, for now, sort of.

                                    [–]WisconsnNymphomaniac 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Housing prices are really high.

                                    [–]ten24 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                    Interesting. My state, one of the poorest of the 50, paid for my college tuition, in full.

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                                      [–]On_A_Side_Note_Guy 72ポイント73ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                      These comments are gonna be fun.

                                      [–]Sgt_Colon 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                      http://gfycat.com/DismalPassionateAmurratsnake

                                      [–]Gonna_Rape_You 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                      It really is amazing how you can find so many people supporting healthcare when someone gets injured or whatnot, but the minute it's a comparision between another country and US lack of healthcare, it's immediately a defensive competition.

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                                        [–]fiatchrysler 340ポイント341ポイント  (32子コメント)

                                        Yeah, living in a micro shack that 5 generations lived in before with mini appliances and driving a 110hp renault is first world

                                        [–]OnAPartyRock 80ポイント81ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Yeah fuck that shit I'll take my 4BR house, guns, and full-size SUVs over that garbage any day.

                                        [–]ReCat 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Don't get me started how much I fucking hate renault and peugeo.

                                        [–]fiatchrysler 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                        Giving us the Fuego should have been considered an act of war

                                        [–]an_actual_human 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

                                        What's wrong with a 110hp renault?

                                        [–]rmphys 79ポイント80ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                        Nothing, as long as you are fine with Prius drivers laughing at you.

                                        (In all seriousness, nothing)

                                        [–]fat_italian_stallion 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

                                        How do you tow your toys with it?

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                                            [–]I_Taste_Like_Orange 129ポイント130ポイント  (11子コメント)

                                            Sounds like Europe is a little salty after still not landing on the fucking moon.

                                            [–]ForeTheTime 224ポイント225ポイント  (55子コメント)

                                            "Free"

                                            [–]wtgreen 59ポイント60ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                            Ask Greece about "free". Ask Germany about Greece's "free" stuff too.

                                            [–]CherrySlurpee 148ポイント149ポイント  (46子コメント)

                                            That term bothers me more than it should. If you're for socialized health care, that's fine. Just admit that you want health care to be paid for by others.

                                            [–]Hannibal_Montana 131ポイント132ポイント  (14子コメント)

                                            And yourself, assuming you pay taxes.

                                            [–]Eplakrumpukaka 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

                                            How can that bother you?

                                            Does it bother you that people think calling the police is free? It's also a social service paid for by taxes.

                                            Don't see people nitpicking that though.

                                            [–]Rizzpooch 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                            I'm also fairly certain I've never heard anyone say that the police are free... The problem is that people do say "free healthcare". a lot.

                                            [–]Rhamni 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                            Because saying "healthcare free at the point of service but really paid for with taxes" takes too long. Not one single person in the world believes that healthcare is magically free, and people who whine about the term are just being silly.

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                                                [–]manaman70 9ポイント10ポイント  (13子コメント)

                                                I hate that argument as well. Healthcare would cost you less in a socialized system. Yes you yourself. Yes it would be paid for by the government with taxes, but even accounting for the small amount of your taxes that would go towards subsidizing the health care of the poor, you as an individual would still pay less for healthcare.

                                                The US spends more per person than countries with socialized health care systems. That money isn't appearing out of nowhere. It's still being spent.

                                                Part if this reason is that the US federal government already spends 1.05 trillion on healthcare. We have all the spending of having a socialized health care system without actually having a real one.

                                                [–]shinndigg 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                Have health insurance? Congratulations, you're already paying for other people's health care!

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                                                  [–]nibler9 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                  the cost of "free"

                                                  [–]Gsusruls 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                  People need to stop using that term for healthcare. Nobody has "free" healthcare.

                                                  In the UK, they have socialized health care. It's communal. Everybody pays into it with taxes, and everybody draws from it depending on their health needs.

                                                  In the US, we have mandatory health insurance. The law requires you to buy insurance to cover your medical care whether you want it or not, no matter what premiums they are charging. As a compromise, insurance companies cannot reject an application based on a pre-existing condition.

                                                  None of these are free. Where are people getting that idea?

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                                                    [–]redditmodssuckass 96ポイント97ポイント  (45子コメント)

                                                    Ill pass on your free healthcare. I beat cancer in the United States for $1000. Same day CT scan, ultrasound, and next day surgery. Ill also pass on your cookie cutter houses.

                                                    I also have a great pension, and great education that allowed me to get a phenomenal position for work.

                                                    Seriously America is not as bad as Reddit makes it out to be.

                                                    [–]JGand72 66ポイント67ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    Reddit tries so hard to make the US out to be some kind of dystopia, where everyone is either about to be homeless or dying in the street (except, of course, for those Republicans who are sleeping on piles of money).

                                                    [–]EpicSpace 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                    yup kinda like 9gag, that's why i fucking quit that shit site. At least in Reddit their's a majority of people who actually have individual minds that don't follow the herd.

                                                    [–]CVBrownie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                    That last sentence is a stretch.

                                                    [–]Nothingcreativeatm 17ポイント18ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                    I tend to think we in America should provide a general level of health coverage to everyone, but.... yeah. Gallbladder attack. ER. Next day meet surgeon. Following day surgery.

                                                    Can't beat the system on speed or quality.

                                                    [–]redditmodssuckass 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                    Can't beat the system on speed or quality.

                                                    Yep this! My cousin needed a CT scan in Canada and was on a waiting list. They said about 6 months. Meanwhile if your cat gets sick in Canada, they can do a CT the same day! My cousin came here, and got it done the next day.

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                                                      [–]OnAPartyRock 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                      I'll never understand the hatred Reddit has for the United States. It is so bad that even when another country is being discussed for doing something shitty someone always has to try and shoehorn in some spiel about how America has done worse. I guess karma points are more valuable to redditors than defending your country's honor.

                                                      [–]redditmodssuckass 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                      Its an interesting phenomenon. I lived in Brazil for several years and saw the hatred that most of them had towards Americans as well. I think Americans do have a different attitude than most and many of us feel entitled. This leads to a lot of hatred from non Americans.

                                                      American on American hate though, I will never understand. Anyone got any insight?

                                                      [–]OnAPartyRock 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                      American on American hate though, I will never understand. Anyone got any insight?

                                                      Probably for easy reddit karma.

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                                                        [–]Agarner8452 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                        For some reason, your comment just gave me a sense of pride.

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                                                          [–]THEREISNOGODDAMNFORK 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          Rain isn't a problem in Britain... it's a bloody human right haha

                                                          [–]Gsusruls 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I guess that means we're experiencing some major human rights violations. California here. Who should I sue?

                                                          [–]facetothedawn 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

                                                          Wait, what's this about free travel?

                                                          [–]bytor 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          They can travel most of their continent without barriers.

                                                          [–]Dat_History 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                          There' a lot of open borders in Europe thanks to the EU/eurozone. The collection of countries that allow unrestricted travel between them has it's own name, but I don't remember it off the top of my head.

                                                          [–]akamustacherides 138ポイント139ポイント  (72子コメント)

                                                          That's cool, now show me your gun collection.

                                                          [–]ptrap333 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          Funny how when Europe mentions their health care system they seem to forgot to mention how America subsidizes and innovates the technology they use

                                                          [–]Boneless_Watermelon 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          lol OP got fucking destroyed in this thread

                                                          [–]SaulidSnake 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                          I'm sure we'd have tons of extra money if we didn't waste it on protecting our European Allies

                                                          [–]afambelafonte 66ポイント67ポイント  (17子コメント)

                                                          You guys do realize that you can go to a university in the US for free (or very cheaply) if you're poor, emancipated from your parents and maintain a high GPA, right?

                                                          [–]spaghetti_taco 42ポイント43ポイント  (9子コメント)

                                                          Or if you have like a 3.5 gpa and live in Florida.. All my friends that went to college just got bright futures scholarships and worked a part time job through school. Came out with little or no debt and had actual work experience. Shocking, I know.

                                                          edit: Oh sorry comments section is just 20 somethings who want to wallow in self pity. My bad.

                                                          [–]doooom 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                          3.0 in Georgia. You may have to pay for books and fees but not tuition.

                                                          [–]Dat_History 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                          HOPE for the win!!!!

                                                          Although, the double meaning of the phrase "I lost Hope" is both humorous and depressing

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                                                            [–]ineedwine 14ポイント15ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                            IDK my parents were pretty fucking poor, enough to not really be able to help with school costs, but I still have a ton of debt even after getting pell grants and whatnot.

                                                            [–]bombidragon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            I am there. Grew up poor as fuck, still have 40k in student debt and that includes very little in living costs. I worked 2 jobs while in college.

                                                            [–]techguy9076 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                            That debt is a personal investment. Imagine if it weren't a personal investment.

                                                            I'd rather take on debt knowing I'm getting a decent degree myself, than be burdened with the debt of a kid who opted for a gender studies degree.

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                                                                [–]MACS5952 87ポイント88ポイント  (21子コメント)

                                                                And you get to keep a whole 25% of your income. Congrats.

                                                                [–]bergamaut 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                Obviously you're exaggerating for comedic effect, but they come out ahead when you consider all expenses:

                                                                http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/04/the-myth-of-low-tax-america-why-americans-arent-getting-their-moneys-worth/274945/

                                                                [–]MACS5952 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                Ohh, i know full well that the govt takes about 40% of what i make, and its outrageous.

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                                                                  [–]studmuffffffin 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  We have social security. That's literally a pension.

                                                                  [–]TheColostomizer 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                                                  Hey, I have free healthcare (my job covers it 100%) a very generous 401k matching program and pretty close to free travel to Canada. Eat it.

                                                                  [–]Ashoka345 23ポイント24ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                  The vast majority of Americans can pay for all these things

                                                                  And have a higher GDP per capita with better land

                                                                  The EU as a whole has a GDP comparable to us with only 3/7 of the people. 1 Trillion more than us

                                                                  You think you're first world/ Hahaha, your economies rest on corporations Americans wouldn't blink at the loss of. You people have American troops all over your land, you're occupied. And we have free speech which is nice, let me tell you.

                                                                  Freedoms come with a price, we have hospitals even in very rural areas because we pay for it. Supply and demand

                                                                  [–]a_really_bad_throw 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                                                  First World: Countries allied with America in the cold war
                                                                  Second World: Countries allied with Russia in the cold war
                                                                  Third World: Countries neutral or not allied with the US or Russia in the cold war
                                                                  OP: Someone who doesn't know what words mean.

                                                                  [–]DodgerDoan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                  Yeah, but we all know the word has come to mean something slightly different. Either way OP is lame :)

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                                                                    [–]Laffmeister 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Ya Ya Ya, tell us after we withdraw from Rammstein and Russia pulls a Georgia/Ukraine on your guys' asses.

                                                                    [–]BaldingEwok 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                    So your like a unemployed person in. The US?

                                                                    [–]CarboiIsBack 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    First world literally means aligned with the American bloc. Second world are those aligned with the eastern bloc, and the third world is everyone else.

                                                                    [–]techguy9076 16ポイント17ポイント  (5子コメント)

                                                                    I'll take the higher wealth of our nation any day.

                                                                    [–]bergamaut 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                    Um... single-payer healthcare SAVES money. We would be richer with single-payer healthcare as that money could be used to invest in new things.

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                                                                      [–]halr9000 16ポイント17ポイント  (16子コメント)

                                                                      I've lost my dog--in my 5000 square foot house (464 M2) for which I paid $330,000 (£219.000)!

                                                                      (True story, but turned out he got outside, and was found after a couple of hours of wandering.)

                                                                      Edit: this was a short sale purchase in 2012, former owner was $100,000 upside down. Transaction took six months to close.

                                                                      [–]otherwiseyep 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      "First World" does not mean what people think it means. It's a cold-war era term:

                                                                      • First world: the "West". USA, Europe and allied countries such as a Japan. Mostly democratic, market-based. Note that "first world" does not automatically mean "rich", although most of the world's richest countries belong to this group.

                                                                      • Second World: Communist Bloc. USSR, China, and allied countries such as Cuba. Single-party rule with centrally-planned economies.

                                                                      • Third world: Unaffiliated Countries. Typically some kind of hereditary dictatorship or tribal rule, or simply a country with a beef against USA/USSR, but not ready to side with the other. Does not necessarily mean poor. The category did include many of the world's poorest countries, but it also included some very wealthy oil kingdoms, for example.

                                                                      The USA is emphatically and absolutely a "first world" country. In fact, being under the military protectorate/alliance of USA and Nato is kind of the most definitive characteristic of "first world".

                                                                      [–]bubby963 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      How to tell that reddit is mainly compromised of kids in uni - they think that all that stuff is free. There's a reason prices and taxes are ridiculously high. In fact Scandinavian countries have some of the highest personal debt levels in the world.

                                                                      [–]djinniofthelamp 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      The salt on both sides of this is just fantastic... I need more popcorn

                                                                      [–]The_Grim_Reamer 34ポイント35ポイント  (33子コメント)

                                                                      Have fun with your Sharia Law

                                                                      [–]RedTiLiMDead 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      Will America come save our cunty ass again when one of our neighbors puts a maniac in power?

                                                                      [–]DodgerDoan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Yeah despite the general hate a lot of countries give us we probably will... Unless it's China fucking with you :P

                                                                      [–]bigeyesnogood 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      USA! USA! USA!

                                                                      [–]AnalInferno 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      That word does not mean what you think it does.

                                                                      [–]hreigle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Good thing you guys over in Europe had somebody else doing the majority of military spending during the Cold War so you could concentrate on other things.

                                                                      [–]-wallace- 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                                                      Europe is only not all speaking German right now for one reason...

                                                                      [–]DodgerDoan 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Well two main reasons, Russia basically took the brunt, we provided all of the weapons and equipment to keep them going until we could make sure the job was finished.

                                                                      [–]Varorson 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      That image looks like a shitty photoshop piece with the repetition on the right side.

                                                                      It hurts my eyes.

                                                                      And it hurts my brain which is saying "that seems legit" when it looks like a shitty photoshop attempt.

                                                                      [–]neutralizr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Europe needs to stop bragging, if it was not for Columbus Europe would just be tribes an forest.\s

                                                                      [–]a_man_of_poop 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      OP is deeply insecure about where he calls home.

                                                                      [–]KING_WAFFLE_LAND 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      OP is right, America isn't the first world. It is the Free world.

                                                                      [–]dojobug 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Free healthcare is that EVERYONE pays for it?

                                                                      [–]MlNDB0MB 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      Saudi Arabia, where women can't drive cars, is progressive enough for free healthcare and free university.

                                                                      [–]buckygrad 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                                                      See you Euros listen to the American trash that post on Reddit as some sort of "reality for all" in the US. The Reddit narrative is the loser class speaking. The stupid "I'm a victim" class. I have great health insurance (in fantastic medical facilities), paid reasonable tuition (because I didn't spend $50K a year on an art history major) , and have a Pension.

                                                                      [–]BlacknOrangeZ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Except those things are not free...

                                                                      [–]ess-doubleU 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Something something standard of living

                                                                      [–]NewWorldDestroyer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      "My country is being bombed into oblivion and we can't defend ourselves because we kind of hopped America would do it for us while we spent the money on cool shit"

                                                                      [–]gsurfer04 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Desmond would like a word with you.

                                                                      [–]loadedjackazz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Would your pension happen to be for buggary?

                                                                      [–]HuhFromTheFuture 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      You're??

                                                                      [–]Dizneymagic 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Rain and drizzle is a 1st through 3rd world problem but for different reasons. In the first world it's a bummer because you have to cancel a Saturday picnic and in the third world it's a bummer because you might have to sleep with your head in the mud again.

                                                                      [–]Zeydon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                                                      Uhh, didn't you hear? 'Murica is the best country on earth. Every politician says it, and why wouldn't they be totally honest all the time?

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