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[–]FrequencySulphur1916 24ポイント25ポイント  (7子コメント)

I don't need a gun because I'm lucky enough to live in a place and time where the danger of violent crime is very small, if I pay attention to my surroundings and work to de-escalate any conflicts.

I also don't carry a gun because I don't think I could end a human life, even in self defense. Too much Buddhism in me, probably. So, what's the point of pretending?

On the other hand, I have no doubt that I can gravely injure envelopes, packing tape, paper, and apples, when the need arises. So, given that it's the best tool for these kinds of small cutting tasks, and I love the craftsmanship of nicer knives, I carry a small knife every day.

[–]Warneral 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I also don't carry a gun because I don't think I could end a human life, even in self defense.

This is something that is extremely important for people considering carrying to think about.

When my boyfriend and I first got together I asked him about getting his CCW and he was going along with it for awhile until one time he told me he didnt think he could shoot someone. We still target shoot, but we stopped working on a permit after that.

If you don't think you can use your gun it will be used on you.

[–]doctorwyldcard 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

The most honest and humorous answer so far.

[–]Crushmaster 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I also don't carry a gun because I don't think I could end a human life, even in self defense.

Taser. :D

[–]FrequencySulphur1916 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've also heard good things about the Kimber Pepper-blaster as an effective, ranged, non-lethal alternative.

[–]Crushmaster 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree completely. It's exponentially better than normal pepper spray since it can be used even in windy conditions.

[–]that_gun_guy -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you are in a position to prevent greater violence, strike first, strike fast.

[–]PleaseStopCallingFull time occupation: wife 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's not how justifiable use of force works. Gun only comes out when your (or in some cases, another's) life is in imminent danger.

[–]bondsman333 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to carry, but now a days I spend most of my time in gun free zones or at my house where there are locked firearms in various locations.

Work has a strict no gun policy and my job is far too important to me to disobey this. Same goes for school. I know concealed means concealed, but its a choice I make. The fourth most frequented place is the local watering hole. I also won't carry while drinking. Personal policy.

I do carry a knife every day and every where. Even at the gym, I keep a knife on a lanyard under my shirt. Never to be used in self defense.

[–]4669 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Other than the obvious sleeping or showering, I don't carry a gun because I'm drinking or mailing a package.

[–]BananaHamSalad[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey guys, get a load of this guy! I doesn't shower with his gun! what an amateur

[–]Ranquin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hehe actually we used to wash our AK4's in the shower with ourselves when they were super shitty.

[–]muteterror[🍰] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because I live in the uk and owning most guns would probably result in a lengthy prison sentence.

[–]Warneral 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

You can get shotguns right?

[–]muteterror[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

From my understanding of the law, you can own shotguns, some rifles, some revolvers and some handguns if they've undergone a SBR conversion.

But you definitely can't have any of them as an EDC.

[–]Warneral 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The only reason I don't carry is because I am going into DC or (rarely) Maryland, or I am drinking.

[–]BananaHamSalad[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why are people downvoting this guy?

[–]DemeaningSarcasm 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't carry a gun because I don't have a ccw permit or a gun for that matter. In addition, a gun doesn't make my day to say life easier.

I carry a knife though.

[–]themcp 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why I don't carry a knife

I've carried a knife on and off over the years. I find that occasions on which I find I am in need of a blade that is small enough that I would reasonably want to keep it on my person, and can't actually find something suitable wherever I happen to be, are actually rather rare. They are significantly more rare than occasions on which I have to go through airport security, so it's a pain in the ass remembering I have to take my knife off my person, every time I have to go to the airport, and then remember to put it back on my person when I return from my trip. It's easier to simply not carry one on an everyday basis, and just bring one with me on very rare occasions when I am going camping.

Why I don't carry a gun

My mother was a sharpshooter (hobby, very high accuracy rating). My father was a sniper (marine corps). They started giving me gun training from the age of 3, and I don't just mean "this is a gun, keep away from it honey," I mean how to use it and how to maintain it and when to and when not to point it at someone. I tell you this by way of preface: I am not some fool mouthing off about something I know nothing about. I have owned five of them. I know how to use them.

A gun is useful for 3 things: hunting, target shooting, and killing people.

I live in a city. There are no deer wandering around that I might want to bag and take home to skin and butcher and put in the deep freeze to cook later. (I have no problem with hunting for food, I have family that do, I've eaten venison, it's just not part of city life.) We have squirrels, pigeons, seagulls, skunks, and the rare rabbit. I do not want to make squirrel stew, and anyway the cops would probably frown on me shooting the squirrels in the park near children. Pigeons are not good eating. Nor are seagulls. Do not even talk to me about eating skunks, and their pelts might make a pretty coat but would make my social life suffer. I like rabbits and don't want them dead. So, a gun would not be useful to me for hunting purposes.

I do not enjoy target shooting, and even if I did, there is no point to carrying a gun everyday for that purpose. People do not shoot skeet in the streets of the city: that's done in gun ranges, or on private property in the countryside, where either way I would make a special trip and would take a gun just for that one purpose on that one occasion. Or more likely I'd rent one at the gun range. So, a gun would not be useful to me for target shooting purposes.

That leaves killing people. Killing people is not, as a rule, a good idea. Worst case you get executed for it, best case you have to go to court and there's a lot of paperwork and people angry at you. Killing anyone who is not trying to kill me - or who is trying but has no chance at doing so - is highly immoral and I'm not going to even consider it. And one of the things my father the sniper rubbed in was, you do not point a gun at someone - or even remove it from the holster - unless you have already decided to kill them. Once you pull that gun, you are committed, because they can see that you can kill them, and they might pull out a weapon and kill you if you don't ensure they are dead or severely disabled before they have the opportunity. And even if you shoot someone to disable them, you have to be aware that any gunshot wound could possibly result in death. So you do not touch your gun until you are committed to the idea that it is better for them to die than for you to not shoot them.

But what if you get attacked?
I've been attacked three times. The first time was some pre-teen kids who tried to gaybash me. They hit me. Not very hard. I said "ouch". Shooting them would have been a massive overreaction, not to mention immoral, and I would have gone to jail for it. They were kids, dammit, they needed education, not a bullet in them. The second time was a nut who picked a fight with me because he imagined I had been rude to his girlfriend. He punched me in the jaw. I kicked him in the nuts. He left to go contemplate his new life as a soprano. Again, shooting him would have been a massive overreaction and I would have gone to jail for it, and he got what he deserved. The third time was a guy who very incompetently tried to mug me. He was so bad at it that I talked to him for a minute and he ran away from me, screaming in terror as he ran. Again, a gun would have done me no good, I would have gone to jail. So, despite being attacked several times, a gun would have been useless every time.

But what if someone tries to kill you?
It has happened. Eleven times, actually. I'm that weird outlier in the world, a person who has actually been subjected to multiple murder attempts. (I have a stalker who has tried to kill me six times, and have encountered a couple other random nuts, and I just barely missed being present at the first WTC bombing and the Boston Marathon bombing. Lucky me.) That's just not normal in the US, it's just absurd, it's so improbable that people often don't believe me. So anyway, I can speak from experience about surviving a murder attempt. I survived every time because every time I saw it coming and I got the hell out of there. Someone came at me with a gun? I ran the fuck away before they got it loaded. Someone tried to run me over with their car? I got the fuck off the road and into a spot where they'd have to go through a bunch of trees, or telephone poles, or lamp posts, to get to me. Someone bombed the place where I was going to be? I got lucky and changed my plans at the last minute. If I had a gun, could I have shot the person who came at me with a gun? Sure, I could have, but I didn't need to so that would have been immoral and I might have gone to jail. If she had gotten her gun loaded before I saw her, I'd have been dead and a gun would still not have helped me. (She later murdered someone else; she came up behind him and shot the back of his head off before he knew she was coming. Having a gun wouldn't have helped him either.) If I had a gun, could I have shot the people who tried to hit me with cars? No, of course not. First I was too busy diving off of the road so they couldn't hit me to pull out a gun and aim and shoot while being run over, and even if I'd hit them I'd still have been run over by their car, and afterward they were speeding away, and shooting someone as they depart would have been highly immoral and I would have gone to jail. And a gun certainly would have done me no good if I was present for the WTC bombing or the Marathon bombing. So, in none of the eleven times people have tried to kill me would a gun have ever been useful.

But what if someone breaks into your house?
It has happened. I stomped my feet and when they realized someone was home they ran off. Shooting them would have been a massive overreaction and I would have gone to jail.

But terrorism! Mass shootings!
As I said above, I've survived several terrorist events - by not being there. If I'd been there, in neither of those cases would I have had any opportunity to shoot the terrorists, and much more likely I'd have been injured or killed by the bomb. In a mass shooting situation, while I may be more qualified than the average bear to successfully shoot the shooter, I am definitely not qualified to determine who the shooter is. Research shows the general untrained public (and for this purpose that includes me) is quite remarkably bad at rapid target selection, and is far more likely to shoot an innocent person than the actual criminal. Yeah, maybe I could observe long enough to make a correct determination of who the shooter is, but doing so would involve sticking my head out long enough for them to kill me. Even if I thought the shooter wasn't looking my way, there could be another one behind me that I don't know about. Also, if I have pulled a gun and start shooting people I think are terrorists, and at that moment the cops burst in... they're going to shoot me dead, because I would be a guy with a gun in his hand. So, pulling a gun and shooting at people when you're trying to survive a mass shooting is an incredibly stupid thing to do, you're far more likely to kill an innocent or get killed than you are to end the situation. Observe the fact that in several recent mass shooting situations there actually was in fact an armed, trained professional present, who chose not to start shooting at the terrorist(s), because they knew they needed a bunch of backup to be successful. Far more successful strategies for surviving a mass shooting are to hide, play dead, or escape.

But what if something you haven't thought of happens and you need a gun?
Look, dude, owning a gun is a dangerous thing. Your gun is much more likely to be used to kill you or someone in your household - either by suicide (most probable form of gun death), or by someone in your household killing you or someone else in your household with it, probably by accident (less likely than suicide but still more likely than you ever using it to defend yourself). So, I kinda don't want that danger in my life. Moreover, my stalker who tried to kill me with a gun once was previously a very nice person, a cardiac intensive care nurse, an angel of mercy... who developed a mental illness and became a murderer. Frankly, there's no way to tell who is going to be fine all their life, and who is going to become psychotic, or schizophrenic, or suicidally depressed... so someone who seems a perfectly reasonable and safe person to allow to have a gun now might be a horribly dangerous person to allow to continue to have that gun a couple years from now. To me, that risk is far larger than the risk of "what if some bizzare highly improbable circumstance comes up for which you inexplicably find that the solution is a gun, and you don't have one on you at that exact moment?". It's just not worth my time to worry about.

[–]PleaseStopCallingFull time occupation: wife 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think there's any issue with you (or anybody else), through your experiences, having come to the conclusion that a gun just isn't for you and thank you for writing your reasons out. I do have to say though, many of us do carry and have guns in the home for the same reason you articulated in your last paragraph: it's not worth our time worrying about it. Yes, someone in the family might turn violent and a plethora of mental health issues may arise. There are warning signs for those however, and for the situations where that's not the case, we don't worry about being shot dead in our own home with our own gun in the same way that we don't worry enough to keep our knives under lock and key. Hell, from my female perspective, my husband wouldn't need a gun or a knife to kill me, having been a weightlifter and having 100 pounds on me, if he turned into a murderous monster. Do I demand that my partners be of the same physical strength as me? The increase in statistical risk may be real but that's the same kind of risk we consciously and/or subconsciously accept on a daily basis when we climb into a car, drink alcohol, or going hiking in the wilderness.

We also carry because we don't feel it's worth our time and the stress to worry about all the minutiae of what could and couldn't happen to us. So we stay prepared to defend ourselves should the need arise instead of trying to predict or avoid the intangible.

Sorry if this sounds like I'm trying to challenge what your reasons, that's not what I'm trying to do- the decision to own/carry a gun is a deeply personal one. I just see all the time people trying to characterize CCW holders as "paranoid" or worrywarts when that's simply not the case at all for a large majority of us and then use that as justification to say we shouldn't be allowed our guns or permits.

[–]BeastmanCaravan 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I carry a knife. It is a tool. It gets used. I don't carry a gun, because it is not a tool, it is a weapon, and I don't need it in my day to day life. I haven't felt like my safety/wellbeing has been threatened in a very, very long time. Guns are heavy, and I don't need that extra weight.

[–]StudiousLumberJack 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm not 21 and I don't believe in open carry

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    [–]BananaHamSalad[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Please read the title...

    [–]juver3 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    my bad, totally missed that

    [–]QUEEN_OF_THE_QUEEFS 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I wish I could. In the Canadian city I live in, it's very uncommon for people to carry guns. I only have my gun if I'm going up north to shoot. I can't carry my knife either because we do bag checks at my work, and it's strictly against the rules to bring weapons. I have a switchblade, but its illegal and not to mention unsafe to carry as a woman for protection. Instead, I sometimes carry pepper spray.

    [–]Demetrius3D 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I carry a knife. But, I don't carry a gun because, as unlikely as I am to be in a situation where I need to use one, I am very likely to be in a situation where I want to use one. I'm better off not having that option at my disposal.

    [–]LegendaryVegan 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I don't carry a gun because they're vastly more likely to cause harm to me or someone close to me than to be used for protection.

    I don't carry a knife because my multitool has a small blade and a pair of scissors. Between those I can open boxes, envelopes, and packages just fine. Anything heavier duty would be unnecessary.

    [–]BananaHamSalad[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

    don't carry a gun because they're vastly more likely to cause harm to me or someone close to me than to be used for protection.

    So you don't trust yourself? Or what?

    [–]LegendaryVegan -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    It has absolutely nothing to do with trust. Statistically, to the best of my knowledge, a gun kept in the home is far more likely to cause accidental harm than to be used in self defense. Guns kept in the home are also likely to lead to higher lethality in cases of domestic violence or suicide attempt. Luckily those last two things are quite unlikely to apply to me.

    If people want to own or carry guns for the sake of a feeling of security it is their legal right, but they ignore some shocking statistics at their own peril.

    EDIT: here's an article with links to many sources and studies on gun violence statistics

    [–]BananaHamSalad[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Wow thats just blatantly wrong.

    Clicks article

    "Guns Kill Children" is the title

    Sure, no fearmongoring or bias, or anti gun agenda here

    The "sources" are being taken out of context. It says you are 4 times more likely to be injured by a gun than use in self defense, and then only states justifiable homicide? The majority of self defense shootings end up with an injured running away criminal, and even higher than that is instances with no gun is fired at all but the gun makes the criminal flee

    That whole article is just wrong on so many levels in not even funny

    [–]LegendaryVegan -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Please, let's keep level heads here. I do not have a pro or anti-gun agenda. What we all want is safety and security, and I'm trying to parse the available information to the best of my ability.

    The reasons /u/themcp listed in this thread why guns are simply not a good reaction to dangerous situations should be more than enough for anyone to understand why I don't carry and don't support people who do.

    [–]BananaHamSalad[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You must be mis-understanding me.

    You posted a bias, anti gun article with incorrect information which I pointed out was incorrect, and why it was incorrect.

    Why do I not have a level head? A person who is not level headed would have just started getting mad and not even read the article

    why I don't carry and don't support people who do

    Okay, then read your earlier statement

    I do not have a pro or anti-gun agenda

    So, what you are saying is you are not pro or anti gun, but will not support a law abiding citizen exercise his rights even though it doesnt effect you in the slightest because you already distance yourself from guns?

    And then you post blatant anti-gun BS around too, anyone with an IQ above 5 could determine that "report" is BS

    Yeah okay, I don't have a level head.

    [–]haharrhaharr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Dont carry a knife because: work and home are the 2 places I'd need a cutting tool at. And I have cutting tools there. i.e. I wouldn't need to open any packaging in the car or on the "go".

    Dont carry a gun because: its illegal / uncommon in new zealand. im lucky to live in a country where gun culture is something i see on the hollywood screen. then walk safely to my car, at night without worry.

    [–]MrIwik -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I live in a half decent country.