Just Not Fringe Enough

Many prominent libertarians have been scratching their heads at the utter failure of Rand Paul to gain traction in the 2016 Republican primary. Just two years ago, the New York Times ran a piece by Robert Draper detailing the rise of the libertarian movement. In it, he observed:

Libertarians, who long have relished their role as acerbic sideline critics of American political theater, now find themselves and their movement thrust into the middle of it. For decades their ideas have had serious backing financially (most prominently by the Koch brothers, one of whom, David H., ran as vice president on the 1980 Libertarian Party ticket), intellectually (by way of policy shops like the Cato Institute and C.E.I.) and in the media (through platforms like Reason and, as of last year, “The Independents”). But today, for perhaps the first time, the libertarian movement appears to have genuine political momentum on its side.

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Hence the excitement about Rand Paul. It’s hardly surprising that Paul, in Ekins’s recent survey of millennial voters, came out ahead of all other potential Republican presidential candidates; on issues including same-sex marriage, surveillance and military intervention, his positions more closely mirror those of young voters than those of the G.O.P. establishment.

So where did the excitement (and support) for Rand Paul evaporate to? If the political demographics and cultural shifts mentioned by Draper exist, why is the most libertarian candidate from the movement’s only family dynasty failing to gather even a fraction of his father’s support?

The answer is that Rand is another casualty of Donald Trump, but, unlike Scott Walker, who simply wanted to be the straight talking outsider and was outflanked by Trump, Paul’s failure says much about political movements beyond the mainstream.

A common argument is that Rand Paul simply isn’t libertarian enough. Sarah McCammon, writing for NPR, interviewed a former staffer for Ron Paul named Kesley Kurtinis. The activist argued that Rand was too cozy with Mitch McConnell, and had rubbed conservatives the wrong way by opposing military spending. But isn’t that what made his father popular in the first place?

In the Washington Examiner, James Antle III notes that Rand is competing with many libertarian-lite candidates and has had difficulty with the movement’s base since his 2010 campaign:

Insufficient libertarian activist enthusiasm may be a bigger factor in the lack of fundraising success, though the jury it still out on what Ed Crane and Matt Kibbe will be able to do for Paul. But there were libertarians, especially anarcho-capitalists, not sold on Paul as far back as when I wrote my 2010 Reason profile of him before he won Kentucky’s Republican senatorial primary.

The argument that Paul is failing to capitalize on the “libertarian moment” because he is not sufficiently libertarian ideologically feels like the lies my old commie comrades told themselves at each political and organizational failure. If we only had a real socialist candidate, our aims would have been realized! Mainstream politicians are just sell-outs, and we need someone who can come in and speak the truth!

While politicians are almost always compromisers and deceivers by design, seeing idealism and ideological purity as the ticket to success fails to explain just why a candidate like Trump has come and taken longstanding Paul supporters.

Trump says things the party establishment does not want to hear, and produces a conversation not befitting an establishment political candidate. Ron Paul did the same thing in his previous two presidential campaigns, forcing the largely neoconservative stage to defend military intervention, surveillance, and pentagon budgets.

The two men have played similar roles in the primary debates, but the logic behind Trump’s usurping of Paul’s supporters is more visceral. I wrote a number of pieces a few years back detailing the reasons why Ron Paul’s popularity with segments of the population are a result of his fringe views and willingness to play with grand conspiracies, not in spite of them. It isn’t that Rand Paul has lost his father’s supporters because he is less libertarian, but that he is less likely to play with marginal political figures and concepts. Indeed, Trump’s most ardent defenders are figures on the neo-reactionary right that were once in Ron Paul’s camp.

A couple of the folks at The Right Stuff (the originators of the “cuckservative” meme), have mentioned their previous alignment with Ron Paul before red pilling and coming out as Trump supporters. Matt Parrott at Alternative Right made the following comments:

All of the other candidates, including Rand Paul, are stand-ins for the interests of the oligarchs who operate American politics. Even when they have their own ideas, as the Paul Dynasty surely does, the American political system runs on big money, money that the Paul family simply doesn’t have. The Ron Paul Revolution has soared all the way up from its humble beginnings in the backwaters of American fringe politics, only to finally slam into a ceiling on libertarian ideology in America; the fact that actual rich people don’t subscribe to richpeopleism.

While the Paul dynasty may be the ultimate standard-bearers of the theory that the people with the gold should make the rules, Donald Trump stands before America in practice as that man with the gold who makes the rules. The libertarian vision of lowering taxes, regulations, and restrictions in the pursuit of wealth arrives at its apex in the personage of Donald Trump. Shred your silly Constitution and set aside your abstract ideologies. Behold the messianic arrival of America in human form: shamelessly greedy, beholden to no man, lacking in self-restraint, bursting with animal vitality, and invading and conquering you as an act of love. Vote Trump!

The “libertarian moment” appears to be ending, in other words, with libertarians, or at least some of them, endorsing the closest thing to a fascist American politics has had for some time.

Assuming Trump doesn’t win the nomination (I still find it unlikely), he will likely fade into memory and his current supporters will look for another standard-bearer to carry their cause forward in the next election. But if pundits wish to make broad pronouncements about these voter’s ideological bearing, they should look no further than the defections from Paul to Trump. Sometimes, just sticking a finger in the eye of the establishment is enough.

(Image: “Trumpinati,” Composited by the Author from Wikicommons Images)


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33 thoughts on “Just Not Fringe Enough

  1. This article needs a disclaimer. Something along the lines of

    No actual libertarians were harmed in the making of this post.

    You wrote an article about libertarianism and the only supposed libertarian you bothered quoting is someone from the alt-right? And think about this bit for a moment:

    The argument that Paul is failing to capitalize on the “libertarian moment” because he is not sufficiently libertarian ideologically feels like the lies my old commie comrades told themselves at each political and organizational failure.

    More than a straw man, this argument is built on its own contradiction. It only makes sense if you equate the “libertarian moment” with the viability of Rand Paul as a candidate, which is something that the argument admits is not the case.

    Here is a counter argument: the libertarian movement is less about electoral politics and more about advancing a particular set of policies and perspectives; things like: ending the Drug War and civil forfeiture, auditing the surveillance state, questioning foreign interventionism, school choice, heterodox monetary policies, so on and so forth.

    When you look at the success or viability of libertarian policies, certainly some have taken a beating, but there’s a lot more where the mainstream political dialogue has caught up to things that libertarians have been talking about for some time.

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      • I’m blushing!

        It seems to me that there are several goals of libertarianism that can themselves be measured.

        1. Electoral success.
        As measured, they are not particularly good at this. If I may use the vernacular, they suck at it.

        2. Changing the subject to stuff and being loud enough about it that both Democrats and Republicans feel like they should chime in and while, a lot of the time, both the Democrats and Republicans agree wholeheartedly, sometimes the two “real” parties will disagree and disagree enough to where it becomes an election issue in its own right. The goal is less about winning on these topics but about getting the two “real” parties to differentiate on these topics.
        This one is a little more tough to measure but the favorite topics of Libertarians (the gay marriage, the marijuana, the police, the economy) are topics where you used to have very little daylight between the two big parties and, now, there is more daylight. Movement has been made on these issues and it’s due in no small part (though certainly not due entirely) to Libertarians yelling like a bunch of crazy people on stuff that nobody agrees with them on.

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          • The attitude that the government shouldn’t inject itself into monogamish romantic/sexual relationships between consenting adults differentiated Libertarians from the two real parties not so very long ago.

            (Plus the whole thing about how, when cornered, those same libertarians tended to concede that ssm was better than the status quo of the government staying in the marriage business without recognizing ssms.)

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            • The gov doesn’t get in the middle of monogamish sexy time relationships. Contracts, however, are something the gov has to have laws about, enforce in court and decide when in dispute.

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              • Yes, Greg. You raise a good point. The hypocritical libertarians who were not “smash the state” anarcho-capitalists supported stuff like “maybe we should let gays get married because the government shouldn’t be discriminating against these people just because they’re gay”.

                Like even way back when Hillary and Obama were firm supporters of so-called “traditional marriage”.

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                  • Silly by what standards?

                    In the era before SSM was a viable option, the position of get the government out of sanctioning certain partnerships and let people form their own arrangements via private contracts is entirely more humane than keep marriage a special state-sanctioned relationship and keep it solely defined as between a man and a woman.

                    This is especially true when you remember that the SSM issue began not as some sort of big group hug to show how much we care about the gays, but about much more prosaic concerns, like visitation and inheritance rights.

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                    • Contracts….that is what the legal part of marriage is, a contract. How the hell do you get government out of contracts??? Our marriage laws are a standardized contract but people can , through pre nups, alter that standard contract. SSM allows same sex couple to use that standard contract and have it enforced. But private or standardized contract, that still needs laws to define them and a court to decide conflicts.

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                      • The answer to your question is right there in my previous comment. I cannot tell if you really don’t understand what I’m saying or just don’t want to accept it.

                        By that, I mean there is marriage, a specific contract with a specific arrangement, and there are other forms of contract that could have accomplished what marriage does without being marriage.

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                        • I completely understand what i’m saying and deal with people who are ending their marriage everyday in the court i work at. Whether the contract is a standard one that covers all the basic issues or a unique one doesn’t change the fact that the gov, through the courts and the law, will always be involved in contracts.

                          The legal, cultural and religious meanings of marriage were melded together a long time ago. People have been fine with that and it has worked fine. People who don’t’ like SSM aren’t thrilled with that now. But adding SSM retains all the old features and lest SS couples share the love, so to speak. The current arrangement is the most conservative change possible.

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                      • greg,
                        A contract need not be legal to be enforceable, if by extralegal means, including mediation.

                        “What do you mean you signed a contract revoking your right to vote?”
                        “only in local elections…”

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                    • Silly because a contract is between two people, while the existence of a marriage affects third parties who never contracted anything with the first two parties. Two people cannot devise a contract that means one of us can inherit from the other with no taxes being owed, or that a hospital will grant them visitation rights, or that one cannot be forced to testify against the other. That happens only because marriage is a legally recognize status.

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                      • Essentially what I’m talking about are some form of civil union. You can argue that civil unions are less desirable than full-fledged SSM, but in the era before SSM was ever a real possibility, civil unions would have been a marked improvement from the status quo.

                        So, what is it about civil unions that is so silly?

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                        • Civil Unions isn’t a terrible silly idea, although it is certain flawed. What it most certainly is not, however, is a policy that gets government out of people’s intimate relationships.

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          • Your recall of what? And that’s a serious question.

            I know a lot of libertarians and the split between those fully supportive of legal marriage equality and those holding to the get the government out of it has been fairly even. Which side is in the majority depends almost entirely on where you place the boundaries, but I would say more than half of the libertarians I know on FB either had positive statuses or full out changed their picture to the rainbow thing after the SCOTUS decision.

            ps – trying to use the SSM debate to gig libertarians is pretty silly since almost no one, right, left or center, supported SSM marriage before very recently. The best that progressives can hope to do on this is to claim that their side flipped five minutes earlier, which is something… I guess.

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            • My recall of people who call themselves libertarians talking about SSM on the intertubes. I don’t know many people in real life who call themselves that. And I meant pre-Obergefell, of course: JB was taking about cases where the libertarian agenda influenced the mainstream, not vice versa.

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          • FWIW Mike I’ve argued SSM on the internets for around a decadeor so now (closer to 13 years probably) and you could generally rely on libertarians to say that the existing anti-SSM policy was unjust when pretty much noone else would.
            Now granted many of them endorsed the libertarians quixiotic solution (no government involvement in marriage) which I’ve thumped plenty in my time but you could often (more than half the time) rely on them to endorse SSM ultimately as preferable to the status quos once you got them to acknowledge that the libertarian ideal was impossible.

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        • Electoral success is hard to measure for any ideological perspective, for the simple reason that it is largely a crap shoot as to what the ultimate results are.

          For example, in 2008 the American electorate put anti-war, anti-surveillance state candidate Barack Obama in the White House and we ended up with President Barack Obama, whose policies were largely a continuation of the thing that the electorate had supposedly rejected.

          Is that success, a defeat, something else? Were the people claiming to against the abuses of state power in 2008 really against those abuses or only against abuses carried out by people with the wrong letter after their name? There are lots of corresponding examples from the right sight of the aisle. And I have a hard time coming up with an answer to these questions that differs significantly from “who knows?”

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        • This one is a little more tough to measure but the favorite topics of Libertarians (the gay marriage, the marijuana, the police, the economy) are topics where you used to have very little daylight between the two big parties and, now, there is more daylight.

          Woah, woah, woah. There’s a lot of base stealing here. I am sympathetic to libertarians (and a former reason subscriber), but to say that libertarians had anything to do with the conversation on gay marriage is like the guy in the Dr. Pepper commercial claiming that he came up with the college playoff system. That was pushed by traditional gay activists, liberal and conservative, that were not at all libertarian. Libertarian publications and thinkers were at most quietly supportive, but to say they made any noise about the issue when it was still outside the Overton window is a vast overstatement. Also, I would note that libertarians have not had much of an impact on the conversation on policing, as that has been pushed by traditional black liberal activists. Libertarians can chalk up wins on mj and economic policies.

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  2. Most of the Libertarian Moment was a delusion. Rand is and was a Republican. One with occasional Libertarian sympathies but he is a Republican. Even some of his libertarian issues he made contradictory statements on which his supporters wanted to ignore. A lot of what binds Libertarians and Republicans in a loose coalition is shared use of terms, tropes and bogeymen. Say you are afraid of encroaching gov and PC and both L’s and R’s will nod, but their visions are often very different of the way things should be. Of course part of the apparent connection between R’s and L’s is that many people who call themselves Libertarian are far more plain old conservatives that are either embarrassed by the R’s or just a bit to libertine to fit in well. Lets also forget Alex Jones identifies as a Libertarian. Fringe movements, even good ones, attract very fringe (read as, crazy) characters.

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    • Most of the Libertarian Moment was a delusion.

      This. A combination of people who noticed that all their Facebook friends were libertarian and came to the wrong conclusion from this, and journalists looking for an angle: any angle!

      The sight of people moving from Ron/Rand Paul to Trump shows that these people aren’t libertarians in any ideologically coherent way. They are contrarians. Trump is the #slatepitch of current politics, so that is where these people go.

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  3. As much as I like Rand, and I like him more than none at all, I think that his best role for the country is to be the perpetual Presidential Candidate, like Teddy Kennedy, and just be the guy who we know is going to run for President, be cranky during the debate, then come in 5th.

    I’d like him to do that for the next 40 years, please.

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  4. I’d say it’s pretty early to be forcasting the end of the libertarian movement as a whole. It’s probably preliminary to even be predicting the end of libertarian lip-service by the GOP, it’s not like the conservatives have much in their ideological can beyond libertarianism.

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  5. The Ron Paul Revolution was never a libertarian movement. It was a bunch of low-information voters rallying around the most anti-establishment candidate without really understanding his agenda. And probably some single-issue anti-war voters.

    That’s not a knock on Ron Paul. He fought the good fight for decades in Congress, but that’s not why so many people supported him.

    This cycle, Trump and Sanders split the low-info anti-establishment voters along tribal lines, and Sanders gets the single-issue anti-war voters. The libertarian core is probably about the same electorally irrelevant size it’s always been.

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