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[–] NoahWard 13 points 6 points (+19|-13) ago 

Thanks for pinging me, I'll summarize what I got from your post.

"brigading is what we say it is" @kevdude

"downvoting and silencing people we dont like isnt brigading, people disagreeing with us is brigading" @kevdude

"my obsession with @eggnogg is destroying my mind but im trying not to show it" @kevdude

"the internet gives me the attention my parents never did" @kevdude

"@NoahWard brigades with his OPINIONs, muh feels or something" @kevdude

"i bitch when mods remove spam and when they dont" @kevdude

"@eggnogg eggnogg eggnogg notice me notice me notice me notice me" @kevdude

"my subverse was brigaded by 5-10 users posting irrelevant pictures, thats totally equivelent to brigading TOTALLY NOT COORDINATING in significant numbers to hide and silence posts and users who disagreeeeeee with meeeee" @kevdude

"i really want to make voat suck" @kevdude

[–] kevdude [S] 13 points -3 points (+10|-13) ago 

"brigading is what we say it is"

A thread made in another sub linking directly to PV where instructions are given to "go post pictures of bread/pumpkins/whetever here" is the definition of a brigade.

downvoting and silencing people we dont like isnt brigading, people disagreeing with us is brigading

There is an organized effort on his account. He will gradually lose ccp and then within an hour or so, randomly, he will get like 100 ccp added back on. I check his comments for new violations every couple of hours and I notice shit like that.

my obsession with @eggnogg is destroying my mind but im trying not to show it

Don't forger about @mathgrunt over in v/science who is deleting comments that break no rules in the sidebar, but he isn't your buddy like @eggnogg so you don't give a shit that we are calling him out too.

i bitch when mods remove spam and when they dont

Show me where I complained about spam.

COORDINATING in significant numbers to hide and silence posts and users who disagreeeeeee with meeeee

Coordination implies organization and direct instruction given. Please show me where I have instructed people to do things?

i really want to make voat suck

TIL that wanting clear rules enforced consistently is making voat suck

[–] Voatman3 8 points 8 points (+16|-8) ago  (edited ago)

A thread made in another sub linking directly to PV where instructions are given to "go post pictures of bread/pumpkins/whetever here" is the definition of a brigade.

Brigading can be explicitly telling users to "go there and downvoat" or it can be simply linking a thread, like you constantly do. And don't tell me that isn't brigading, because it is. We all know SRS and SRD brigade, and that is exactly how they do it; by just linking the thread.

He will gradually lose ccp

He was at 45 yesterday, and today he is at -25, a loss of 70 CCP. In that time, he made four comments, which garnered a loss of 14 cpp. So, somehow, he lost 56 extra CCP overnight, on older comments. Are you going to tell me that isn't brigading? If you go back through recent comments, you will see most of them have between -7 and -9, give or take one. That doesn't look organic in the least.

TIL that wanting clear rules enforced consistently is making voat suck

No, your drama is making voat suck. I'd like to lurk in peace without hearing about it all of the time. You say you want clear rules enforced consistently, but then you complain when they are enforced if it has "too many" votes.

[–] Techius 12 points 6 points (+18|-12) ago 

He has a strong relationship with the trolls who have been using v/soapdoxbanhammer

Yes, because you always have to sneak in some propaganda about how SDBH is affiliated with default sub mods YOU dislike.

[–] kevdude [S] 13 points 4 points (+17|-13) ago 

@chupwn @astromachine Please weigh in on this issue. Thank you.

[–] Ar_Nimruzir 13 points 4 points (+17|-13) ago 

@eggnog is heavily biased and does not deserve to mod such a sub; they should have stepped down quite a while ago.

I know it never works, but hey @Atko, care to weigh in?

[–] Disappointed 12 points 3 points (+15|-12) ago 

If @Atko doesn't weigh in on moderator abuse(most likely because any spare time he has is working on other things), then perhaps he'd be open to a user vote system to add and remove mods. As it stands now any level 2 mod can add more mods and we could end up with a situation where malicious outside interests are controlling the narrative on major subs. This is particularly worrying on news subs where many groups would find it desirable to control what media is seen. Right now, there is nothing standing in the way of this but him and @PuttitOut.

[–] HomerSimpson 7 points 9 points (+16|-7) ago 

then perhaps he'd be open to a user vote system to add and remove mods.

So a popularity contest. Man that won't ever be abused huh? Won't ever you know put cancer mods into power....

[–] Mickgoestojail 11 points 2 points (+13|-11) ago 

If @Atko doesn't weigh in on moderator abuse(most likely because any spare time he has is working on other things), then perhaps he'd be open to a user vote system to add and remove mods

This could be good if people were vetted by someone as actual contributers to that sub. The Admins just seem too busy to handle managing mods but they've left it so it's all on them. There must be a better way.

[–] HomerSimpson 14 points 3 points (+17|-14) ago 

He has a strong relationship with the trolls who have been using v/soapdoxbanhammer to brigade PV

As I said the many times you are just drawing lines that aren't there. They just wanted to start a new circlejerk. Remember when I was the butt of the joke? My inbox was a mess.

I am sure you can probably start something there too and be heavily upvoted.

(I would also point out that @noahward is one of his defenders, is one of the people who has been involved in some of the brigades against PV, and is potentially part of the group upvote brigading @eggnogg's account)

I'm not mentioned. Disappointed!

In that comment chain I pointed out how this post broke the same rule that he had enforced on other submissions and he says "if I remove it will you STFU?" . So now rules are enforced as favors to benefit the mod?

Stretching it just a tad.

But the rest I agree with. And it shouldn't be a step down. It should be a removal from position. Nothing more. Nothing less.

[–] Disappointed [M] 11 points 4 points (+15|-11) ago 

I like how you reported your own comment as spam. Would you like us to delete it or will you do it yourself?

[–] HomerSimpson 9 points 4 points (+13|-9) ago 

Neither of course. Just wanted to display my vote controversial vote count even though my comment is agreeing with the OP(kevdude) but still in the negative. I feel like people vote on my comments based on my username rather than reading what I write. But that's just me.

[–] kevdude [S] 12 points -2 points (+10|-12) ago 

They just wanted to start a new circlejerk. Remember when I was the butt of the joke?

Except in many of the pms @w00zi is telling me to stop going after mods. And there is a comment he made that is capped in one of those threads where he says they will do shit like that whenever we call out mods. So there is an agenda.

[–] HomerSimpson 7 points 5 points (+12|-7) ago  (edited ago)

Maybe I'm wrong for that single user.

[–] w00zi 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

You're by far my favorite! Edit: Only -2?