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[–]AngryAnuses 2021ポイント2022ポイント  (417子コメント)

The faking of injuries really ruins watching soccer for me.

[–]ryuujinusa [スコア非表示]  (32子コメント)

Rugby is where it's at. They fake like they're not injured so they can keep playing

[–]Slambino [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Ice hockey. These guys take pucks to the face, gets stitched up, and return to the ice.

All the videos I am getting are brutal and bloody and include lots of fist fights but that's not to suggest the game itself isn't glorious; it's just you have to be a certain kind of tough I think.

[–]Cbclarke [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A Dallas Stars player died on the bench last year and wanted to get back in the game after he was revived. Those guys are tough, alright.

[–]HayzeDayze [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There are a couple clips of rugby guys dislocating their shoulder and leaning down and popping it back in DURING gameplay, it's sick. There is also a player who once got his ballsack torn open, stitched up on the sideline and went back into play.

I love both sports, but fuck... Rugby professionals are insane.

[–]StrugLord [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Winnipeg Jets prosect Ryan Olsen got in a fight in the first period, then took a puck to the face in the second period

Not to sound like a clickbait article, the tweet basically explains that in 140 characters or less... it just also has the picture

[–]osmlol [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Same with the nfl. Except they try to pretend they don't have a concussion as they stumble crooked to the wrong sideline.

[–]cheezturds [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Defensive players fake injuries all the time when offenses are going no huddle to stop their tempo. The league has cracked down on it, however.

[–]Dxxx2 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Is that really a thing? I've seen nothing of the sort when an offense hurries up.

[–]osmlol [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I watch atleast 6 nfl games a week and I've only seen thar happen maybe 5 times. It's not common at all and is looked down upon by everyone.

[–]hellraiser24 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That's not a thing at all. Happens rarely and was cracked down on hard when teams pulled it when Chip Kelly first came in and was running his uptempo.

[–]NoSourCream [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

All the time? maybe like once a week if that. Not 10 times a game

[–]pmmecodeproblems [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I would but I can never watch it live in the usa. Hell I can't watch it until it's illegally on YouTube. How do you people watch rugby in the us?

[–]Imoffensiveontheweb [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I use Hola and watch ITV streams, or there are other random streaming sites that have it that you can find links to in /r/rugbyunion

[–]ryuujinusa [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I downloaded all the WC matches. But yah, it's hard. I don't live in the US now but where I live it's just as hard.

[–]URRongIMRite [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sometimes it's like "come on guy, your face is entirely covered in blood... take a breather..."

[–]RouseHouse1013 302ポイント303ポイント  (171子コメント)

[–]Needs_No_Convincing 207ポイント208ポイント  (65子コメント)

A rule was created a couple of years ago in the NBA where you get punished (fined maybe?) for flopping. I'm not sure to what extent it's still in effect because I sort of stopped watching basketball, but it definitely all but eliminated flopping the first year it was enforced.

[–]TheLeftIncarnate 103ポイント104ポイント  (49子コメント)

A rule was created a couple of years ago in the NBA where you get punished (fined maybe?) for flopping

Diving could always be penalised in football, and since I think 2009 the rules say that "pretending to be fouled [...] must be sanctioned as unsporting behaviour [...] which is punishable by a yellow card". That's the year in which somebody was banned for two games for simulation in a CL game.

[–]JustaRunnin 65ポイント66ポイント  (44子コメント)

If they do that in American Football they'll be fined and then end up on "'Cmon Man"

[–]TheClayroo 29ポイント30ポイント  (27子コメント)

Not to mention all that street cred they'd lose. I've been watching NFL since 1991 and I can't think of someone faking an injury. Punters will drop on contact because of the running into the kicker rule, but they've got a leg high up in the air, it's easy to make it look like a guy knocked you off balance, but pretending to be hurt? Never.

[–]DemJukes [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Back when Manning was running the super fast, no-huddle offense back around '09-'10, some defensive players would flop in order to get an injury timeout so they could substitute players/change packages.

[–]asosaki [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Yup. I remember Shaun Philips doing this in particular.

[–]EukaryotePride [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Willie McGinest too.

Plus there was a time where 2 Giants faked injuries at the same time to stop the clock. It's definitely pretty common.

[–]TheClayroo [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Ya I guess I remember that now, but this takes them off the field for at least one play which stops a lot of guys. It also uses a timeout if they're in the final 2 mins which deters a lot of teams since they're so valuable.

[–]DemJukes [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah it was more harshly penalized than soccer, but it happened enough to the point where they had to slow down Manning to stop the problem.

[–]TheFridge22 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Manning wasn't the only one running the no huddle.

[–]Pkock [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Players still do that to the eagles, not as often this year on account of the shittiness... but it did happen in the Giants game last week.

[–]Charzaaard [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I remember a couple years ago a guy on the Giants played like he was injured because they had no timeouts and less than 2:00 on the clock.

[–]Iguanas14 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

QB's and kickers do it all the time to try and get roughing the passer/kicker penalties. And defensive players will do it to slow down offensive tempo

[–]BANNEDFROMALAMO [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

No one should be touching the kicker. Ever.

[–]aessa [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I mean I guess, but you're allowed to touch the kicker while he has the ball but before he kicks right?

That's what the rule is. You can touch the kicker, except right after he kicks the ball.

[–]Ducksaucenem [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

The giants were known to do it to slow the game down during two minute drills. A few years ago they made it clear faking an injury this way would be a punishment for the entire organization.

[–]boobers3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The Giants? The entire NFL does it, and had done it that year, and every year before and since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8-JYSXDp9k

[–]d4nace [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Pretty sure some teams do it against the Eagles at times. To slow down the no huddle offense. Maybe not fake but definitely embellish an injury.

[–]SirNarwhal [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yup, happened the first few years Chip was there, it's kind of stopped now.

[–]sharkbirdpanda [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Faking injuries used to happen against the no-huddle Buffalo Bills in the late '80s early '90s. Defenses couldn't substitute. They couldn't keep up. The O was too strong. The faking was real.

[–]sirdroosef [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I don't watch pro, but I know people would fake injuries to slow down the tempo of the Oregon Ducks in college. I heard mention of it watching an Eagles game the other day, but don't know if he actually flopped.

[–]TheClayroo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I guess I meant to get a call, but yes, as a longtime Broncos fan, guys would do it to slow down Manning's offense. In NFL they have to come off the field whereas in soccer they just get up and dust themselves off and keep going.

[–]cheesegoat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Another time players fake injuries is when they realize they have too many men on the field.

[–]TheLeftIncarnate 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

They'll be fined if caught. I don't know enough about American Football to make a more complete comment, but it strikes me that the sport itself doesn't lend itself to simulation. Ramming people is clearly not a foul, but simply what the thicker dudes in the backline are supposed to do. So what would be?

[–]JustaRunnin [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

The only reason some one would fake an injury is to stop the clock, is that what you were asking?

[–]TheLeftIncarnate [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

More or less. Simulation in football is a bit more complicated.

Ramming people, for example, is illegal, as is a wide variety of tackles, holding, and so on. The kind of move you might see in the NFL, where one player more or less smashes the other into the ground, would be an immediate red card and a multi-game ban in football. At least.

The game also isn't incremental and digital in the way American football seems to be to someone like me who barely has seen a complete game. There aren't specific yards to be won or something, and simulating a foul can not only completely disrupt an attacking (or even defending!) play, it can also change possession.

So it seems to me

  • easier
  • harder to spot
  • more beneficial

to simulate a foul in football than it is in American football. If a player is never the less caught, there's penalties associated with simulation in football also. I actually have a friend who is a semi-professional referee (i.e. gets paid for it, but doesn't do it as his main occupation), I'll ask him tomorrow how easy simulation is to spot and whether he usually penalises it in some way.

[–]JustaRunnin [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

We need some one who has an understanding of both sports to break this down for us lol

[–]TezzMuffins [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There is not much simulation in American football because a foul stops the clock, so you can't use a foul to waste time (stoppage time in soccer is always insufficient) and a team can stop the clock by going out of bounds or throwing an incomplete pass. The players tend to get enough rest as a result, even against a high-powered offense. Oregon 4 years ago was the sole exception.

[–]KtotheC99 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

The MLS has anti flopping rules as well.

[–]Professional_Bob [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Every league does. The MLS is just the only one which issues fines as punishment.

[–]shoryukenist [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Maybe FIFA will wise the fuck up now that Sepp is gone

[–]Professional_Bob [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Implying Sepp was/is the only currupt one...
The two people who were supposed to take his place are also banned under corruption allegations. The guy who is currently head of FIFA has been accused of accepting bribes from Qatar.

[–]shoryukenist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The whole thing is corrupt, but they are cleaning house because Uncle Sam.

[–]Bossmang [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

TBH with the amount of brain trauma that goes on in the NFL, I would be OK with them faking injuries more often.

[–]yoitsthatoneguy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The only reason to flop in the NFL is if you're a kicker or Aaron Rodgers/Tom Brady.

[–]nolbie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The problem is that every association chooses which rules to focus on at any given time. Diving isn't really all that high on the agenda for any of the national association, nor continental confederations at the moment.

[–]yrogerg123 [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Yea the retroactive technical foul and fine did a really good job of getting rid of flopping in the NBA. That and social media. I think most NBA players want to be "cool," probably more so than any other sport, and flopping is the opposite of that so most guys actually avoid it now. It's made the game much better.

I'm not sure why a retroactive yellow card isn't handed out for faking a soccer injury, especially in the world cup where cumulative yellow cards actually matters. It really does make soccer harder to watch.

[–]uncommonpanda [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In hockey it's a 2 minute penalty, power play for the other team and an increasing fine for repeat behavior. My favorite part in hockey is that for repeated offenses of "embellishment" the coach starts to get fined. That is how you keep people from faking it.

[–]directional_delta [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

bill laimbeer was utterly detested in the 90s (and still remembered today) for this very reason. he was the league's worst flopper, famous for it.

[–]Bumfluff21 29ポイント30ポイント  (9子コメント)

It's weird how Miami appeared more than any other team. Did they have time set aside in practice for flopping?

[–]aspbergerinparadise [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

When I played basketball in High School every once in a while we would practice "taking a charge". Which is pretty much flopping practice.

It's not like you're trying to cause a penalty over nothing though. Usually a charge is a charge, and you're just trying to make sure the refs notice it by really selling your end of the transaction.

[–]trapper2530 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There is a difference between taking a charge and flopping. Flopping is when you don't or barely get hit and act like you are shot. Taking a charge you actually take contact and sell it a little more. The difference is the contact you take.

[–]Zeitgeis1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The only way to really sell a charge is to take it full on the numbers though. That's not what I'd call a flop, it's a legal tactical move to hold your ground until you're hit. This whole thread bashing basketball like it's even remotely on par with soccer is absurd.

[–]Slambino [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's stressed so much because it's a dangerous play. You gotta watch taking a knee to the crotch or blasting the incoming offensive player. The fall is very important (and a very fun drill) so you slide on the floor and not take a full flat-ass drop onto the hardwood.

[–]Get_Ya_Eagle_On [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

Flopping is one thing. Withering on the ground in agony for minutes is another. Nba certainly has its floppers and they occasionally will act hurt for a little, but it is nothing like soccer.

[–]Legendhidde [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

What the fuck kind of football do you people watch?

I have watched every single match of the world cup and european cup for 3 times in a row and how you describte it happens once every 4-5 matches or something.

[–]foffob [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They don't watch soccer, just the diving gifs...

[–]decaflame [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I watch the men's World Cup. I'm not sure what games you're watching, but I didn't put together this analysis, the WSJ did.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-world-rankings-of-flopping-1403660175

There's plenty of writhing around in every game I saw. Multiple minutes of it, as described in the above link.

[–]Legendhidde [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

These people classify only serious injuries as worthy of sitting down for half a minute.

I've played football all my life since I was 6 and I can tell you how many times I've had to sit down after an encounter with a shoe, ground, burn marks from grass and minor injuries everywhere.

I've never been injured up to a point I couldn't play anymore. After getting a kick in the balls, I suppose you cringe as well and sit down for some time. Do you have a major injury? No.

[–]Zeitgeis1 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Thank you. You can't compare it to soccer even remotely. I see basketball flops as almost humorous sometimes. Never seen a single soccer flop I had a chuckle at with anything bud morbid fury. It's like a con artist game now. George Costanza would have made a great soccer player. If you believe the lie...

[–]_mo0 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Take a cleat to your ankle at full speed, then you can talk about rolling around on the ground in pain. Yeah, it hurts like shit for a minute, but you can bolt back up if you need to.

[–]ElGringoBandito 9ポイント10ポイント  (14子コメント)

People don't lie on the ground in fake pain for minutes and get stretchered off only to hop back on the field immediately in basketball.

[–]Eagle20Fox2 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Paul Pierce wheelchair never forget

[–]DeadNny [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thought that was what the link was going to be. That was so damn embarrassed to watch.

[–]Professional_Bob [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

And I've never seen anyone do that in soccer either. You're massively over-exaggerating it.

[–]waldron76 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I don't think I've ever seen a player who has been stretchered off come back on.

[–]Sorrypenguin0 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Of you get stretchered off you can't come back on, and if time must be stopped because of an injury, you can't come back on until the next stop in play... Also fines and shit.

[–]Bossmang [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Real talk, if Lebron had kept playing without falling over from that hit, there would have been no call at all. Players sometimes do need to sell things to get calls. If you never complain and act like fouls on you are nothing, you will never get calls, period.

[–]darkaxe [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

AKA he's a pussy. If he wants to fall on the ground because he was slightly shoved then act like he might have a neck injury to get a call, fine. He just has to accept that most people think he's a pussy when he does this.

[–]GovmentTookMaBaby [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

comparing those two is a joke and you know it. Even when people in the NBA flop, they don't stay down acting like they are SOOO hurt for about a minute. I think it says something about soccer fans that they seem to have no problem with this practice.

[–]throwapeater 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

moving screen, James shoulda flopped

[–]Bossmang [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah if he didn't flop, he might not have gotten that call. That is complete bullshit you cannot have a set up moving screen like that. Imagine you are guarding your guy, turn around and before you can even make it around you get chest checked (high chest near neck, too). I would be fucking pissed if that happened to me in a game.

[–]creepingdeathv2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

bunch of pathetic sissy-ass losers. whatever happened to brushing it off and keep on goin ?

[–]Neat_On_The_Rocks [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I still find the faking of injuries to be worse. Like WTF man really.

In the NBA, most flopping is at least exageration. Sometimes its a straight up lie, but usually... stretching the truth.

[–]cheezturds [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Basketball is so fucking awful, I don't get why it's so popular here.

[–]Mythsoul [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Today's athletes are well versed in acting thanks to an excellent college education.

[–]petethedoubtfulpirat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah that's why I don't watch NFL. Just kidding. I watch all of the aforementioned sports and just accept that people will try to take advantage of the rules in most professional sports. EDIT: too many words

[–]dmowen111 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think it's bad when the 10th or 11th man on an NBA team is doing whatever he can with his limited (comparatively) skills to help his team win, but when the best NBA players like Lebron James flop around like they got hit with a sledgehammer it's pretty disgusting.

[–]VincentSports89 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I know but it's different in soccer. The agony and the rolling around and the stretcher coming out. I know other sports have problems with it too but it's not even close to how it is in soccer.

[–]CaptainNoBoat 195ポイント196ポイント  (69子コメント)

People say this all the time as a slant to soccer but... I have a feeling you wouldn't watch soccer even if fake injuries didn't happen. You probably have many other reasons you don't watch soccer. They really don't happen that much. At least outrageous ones like these.

People will grab at their ankles or be more emphatic when they fall because it DOES draw more calls. This happens in every sport with physical fouls. The difference in sports like basketball or football - it is usually advantageous to "Tough" it out and continue on the play as hard as you can.

Soccer is a finesse sport, and any little alteration of your stride or control can make or break a play for you - and you want to make sure a ref 50 meters away knows this - rather than appearing unfazed(toughing it out) and losing the ball, possession, a goal, and possibly the game.

It's an unfortunate aspect of an otherwise beautiful game, but it isn't like general soccer players are "cheats" or "pussies". They are athletes from all over the world who do whatever it takes to win under the rules.

[–]CaniborrowafeeIing 46ポイント47ポイント  (7子コメント)

yea... i dont see overly fake injuries alot and i watch a couple a games a week.

its just another reason for ppl who dont like soccer to diss the sport.

[–]CaptainOpossum 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

People say this all the time as a slant to soccer but... I have a feeling you wouldn't watch soccer even if fake injuries didn't happen. You probably have many other reasons you don't watch soccer.

Yeah, people who say this are probably being dishonest. I see people on reddit complain about faking these injuries a lot, but nobody ever seems to complain that football games have penalties ever other play. Odds are they just don't like soccer.

[–]JoesShittyOs 18ポイント19ポイント  (2子コメント)

but nobody ever seems to complain that football games have penalties ever other play.

That is just straight up not true.

[–]Badmoodsbear [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

but nobody ever seems to complain that football games have penalties ever other play. Odds are they just don't like soccer.

So wrong. People complain about this all the time, myself included.

Some people even call it "refball"

[–]Dirty_Tub 28ポイント29ポイント  (41子コメント)

As someone who watched the World Cup for the first time last year, I found soccer very enjoyable to watch. The only thing that took away from it was the constant fake flops to get calls. It seemed like thee were happening once or twice a minute in the last 15 minutes of some games. If you go down in soccer, it should be required that you be subbed out immediately and must remain out for at least 3 minutes. This would provide an incentive for good players to avoid flopping. But then again, I'm just an American so what would I know?

[–]ahoneybadger3 57ポイント58ポイント  (6子コメント)

it should be required that you be subbed out immediately and must remain out for at least 3 minutes.

That would just cause teams to exploit that in order to bring on a fresh player nearer the end of the game without having to use up a sub to do so.

[–]IM_A_WOMAN [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Not only that, I'd target the good players on the other team, force them to go down so they had to step out of the game.

[–]Semyaz 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

In professional soccer, you are very restricted in the number of substitutions you can make. In most leagues (including the World Cup), you get 3 substitutions the entire 90 minute match. One of the main reasons people try to draw so many fouls in the end of soccer games is because 66% of the team has been on the field for 80+ minutes with only a break at half time. No other sport places so much emphasis on your starters.

As a side node: Soccer players run an average of 7 miles during a soccer match. For the most part, it isn't just jogging around. Sprinting, competing for possession, contesting airballs, switching directions. It's an extremely demanding sport physically.

[–]Cirenione 37ポイント38ポイント  (23子コメント)

Heres the thing that many americans don't understand because they aren't familiar witht the rules in european football. A player going down and complaining isn't always a flop. There are strict rules of where you can and can not attack. For example they run at full speed and some other player uses a sliding tackle. If said player hits the foot and not the ball, its a foul. Of cource you go down when you run at full speed and someone kicks you at your ankle. Now this these gifs that get posted here are the extreme examples. But a lot of times when flops get discussed on reddit, people here can't keep legitimate fouls and flops apart because they don't know the rules and just claim every player going down as a dive.

[–]mothfactory [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I've given up arguing with Americans about football ('soccer'). The fake injury theme is all you ever hear. This is because their only experience of the sport is seeing gifs of cheating players on the internet.

[–]WolfImWolfspelz 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

As someone who has played soccer for most of his life, I can tellyou that most of the time, it isn't faked. Soccer is one of the most fast-paced sports in the world, and every time someone touches your feet mid-sprint, it seriously messes with your step sequence. Also, and that doesn't happen in many other sports because they aren't mainly played with your feet, getting kicked against your shin or ankle hurts like hell at first. More than getting an elbow against your arm, for example.

I agree with you that dives are a disgrace, but not every fall is a dive. I just don't like the bad reputation the sport has because stumbling is more common in this sport than in others.

Also, there are very clear rules, and in most of the cases, at least one of these rules was broken by the other player prior to a "flop", as you call it. Why shouldn't this be brought to the referees attention? I find it much better to "report" a offence directly instead of waiting until the match is over and negotiating afterwards.

Again, I agree that dives should be punished. They are, but maybe not hard enough. Also, I think that in situations like in this gif, the player should at least see a yellow card, because the player is clearly faking it to kill time (the score is 4:3 with less thana minute to be played). But don't hate the whole sport for it, and don't think that every time a player goes down, he is faking it.

[–]chivas604 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well currently there are rules saying that if a player goes down and the medical or training staff has to come on the field you must leave the field until the referee allows you back on. So the downside to faking an injury is that your team will have to play one man down until you come back on.

[–]Lam0rak 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, end of the game is when a lot of fouls happen. Tired as hell and people are pushing harder. The world cup seemed to have few flops than normal. There were some games with less favored teams, that seemed to flop A TON. Especially some of the central american teams.

[–]Professional_Bob 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sounds like a terrible rule. Firstly, players could just constantly go to ground so that someone with fresh legs replaces them and gives them a chance to rest.

Secondly, a lot of minor injuries occur in the sport which can hurt a lot initially but won't last very long.

Thirdly, it's safer to go to ground during a lot of tackles. Many snapped bones have occurred when a players has had their leg firmly plated in the ground as a tackle came in.

Lastly, the vast majority of the time that it happens there was actually a foul involved. Players who fall to the ground when there was no contact at all are already penalised. Those who exaggerate the contact are usually doing it because the game is so fast paced that the ref probably won't even notice it otherwise. In the 2010 world cup final Arjen Robben was fouled inside the penalty area by Iker Casillas but he carried on running after the ball. He couldn't get to it in time and it went out for a goal kick. If he'd fallen when Casillas fouled him he would have been awarded a penalty.

[–]svengalus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This topic always cracks me up because if you watch enough soccer you just don't notice it anymore. It takes an outsider to notice it but then you are dismissed for not watching enough soccer anyway.

[–]VagCookie [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I love Soccer. My boyfriend takes me to the local team's games (RSL!) and I get so riled up with the chants and the fight song and the general emotion of the crowd. There are always fans that show up to the games with drums and flags and throw confetti and streamers. Every game they are there, in the cheapest seats... for the love of the sport. I get up and I sing my loudest and just have the time of my life!

[–]gnrc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I play soccer and while I don't dive or flop, you're not doing yourself any favors by fighting through a foul. Unless you can still score that is.

[–]sackchat [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not a huge soccer history buff, and i know the integrity of having one ref is a sort of tradition, but is one ref +2 line judges and an assistant enough to see everything at all times? Wouldnt adding a second ref reduce the flopping for visability dillemma?

[–]rayverine11 26ポイント27ポイント  (37子コメント)

That's too bad. It's a wonderful sport to watch and the faking of injuries doesn't really happen all that much to be honest. You should really give it a second chance and not let the misconception get to you so much.

[–]AllOKinDPRK [スコア非表示]  (30子コメント)

you're sounding like he's doing the world's number one sport a favor by following it.

American football and baseball need as much help as they can get.

[–]rayverine11 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's not the game that's missing out because he's not watching it. He's missing out because he's not watching the game. Don't know how I sounded like the game was hurting?

[–]sygyzi [スコア非表示]  (21子コメント)

The NFL needs help? Yeah I'm sure in other countries the viewership numbers are substandard, but I am pretty sure its the most watched sport in America with next to no competition. Nascar might be close though.

Added a word.

[–]TomShoe [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I could be wrong, but I don't think NASCAR is even close. It's got a much more specific audience.

[–]sygyzi [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

NASCAR is the most attended sport. So I just assumed it was close to NFL being most watched.

https://www.google.com/?gfe_rd=ssl&ei=qEcxVvGIDoGp-AW-x7qQCQ#q=nascar+most+attended+sport

"Roughly 40% of fans are women. The sport has become the No. 1 spectator sport, and 17 of the top 20 most attended sporting events in the United States are NASCAR events. The sport is broadcast in 150 countries, and it is the second-most-watched sport on TV (after the NFL).Feb 27, 2012"

[–]Arching-Overhead [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Soccer is the most followed sport on earth, therefore any other league in any other sport could arguably need any "help" more.

[–]ADHthaGreat [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's really only the number one sport in the world because you need barely any equipment to play it. Doesn't require much organization or many players either.

If poorer people in other countries could afford to play golf, it could be the most popular sport in the world.

[–]Roroc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This argument doesn't hold weight for relatively well off countries like England, Spain, Italy, Germany etc. where soccer is still the number one sport despite the average citizens easily being able to afford the "costly" equipment for other sports.

[–]Prothall [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So they should be more entertaining and not fucked up with ads.

That said: What kind of asshole are you, pretending to give a shit? What do you gain by saying that? Nothing i bet. Just trying to force your opinion on people by using pity.

[–]SlutLover4Ever [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You are dumb as bricks if you think football needs help.

[–]jrob323 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Soccer is the world's number one sport the same starving is the world's number one food.

[–]Cal1gula 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is why I watch hockey and MMA.

It's the exact opposite. People getting hurt and pretending to be OK for like 3 hours.

[–]Robbomot 25ポイント26ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm convinced it's a reddit circlejerk about diving /faking injuries. It happens rarely and really doesn't stop you watching it. It isn't that big an issue and you're a fool if you think it's a severe enough a problem to stop you watching it

[–]Squishyy [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

the only ever time people complain about diving is when it makes the front pages of reddit, american popularised sports love to shit on football like their own sports dont have their problems. Football is coming to america whether they like it or not.

[–]Prothall [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well let's be honest here: You can't fake injuries in American Football. You can't fake long enough for the ads to be over.

[–]kamker 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sometimes you get kicked or stepped on and you need 20-30 seconds for the pain to go away if you "walk it off" the game will continue and you're team will be playing without you for 20-30secs. It's not faking an injury.

[–]_Sagacious_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Just like this guy is starting to get back up before he's hit.

[–]nwankwukanu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I watch sports because they're entertaining, it seems Americans watch sports to vicariously feel manly

[–]KrisDoolan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sounds like you don't watch it anyway. I've been going to games for 10 years and very rarely see any at all.

[–]Rayneworks[🍰] 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

Fake injuries ruin soccer for me.

All the wiggling ruins Baseball for me. They get up at bat and just stand there and wiggle. Stand the fuck still and focus on the ball!

Basketball is ruined because they stop the game for five minutes whenever someone gets touched.

I should just stop watching sports.

[–]Sandwiches_INC 4ポイント5ポイント  (13子コメント)

Watch hockey, they are the tough guys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii2E10-NxFA

[–]Poozer62 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

As a hockey player for almost all of my life, and an avid hockey fan. I'll take the responsibility of playing devils advocate here.

This is a pretty big compilation of dives, and its just from one team https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6IxtxfsNWg

[–]cahillrock 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

[–]Poozer62 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I don't have any clue what the fuck this is, but it looks incredibly difficult and painful. As well as it looks fun as fuck.

[–]InfantStomper [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It is pretty much Ireland's version of the NFL. Takes over the country when it's on! :D

[–]shoryukenist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No one ever accused the Irish of being prancing ballerinas.

[–]Oggy385 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Watch MMA. They stop when someone is not moveing.

[–]LOLrusty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Then you just don't watch football enough then. The diving and faking injuries is such a small part of the game that only a select few actually do. It's now also become a ban-able offense to fake a serious injury.

[–]botbullet0 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I have you tagged as "Dope Shit"

[–]caillouuu [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The understatement of my entire vocabulary.

[–]beckerola [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

me too. i wish the players respected the sport more, as well as each other but it's gone too far to ever change, i think.

[–]suction [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

then you should support grittier teams, not the ones with the biggest names

[–]DrHawk144 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Part of me wants some rebel to cause the injuries these people fake. Like when they grab their arm I want someone to hit it with a bat when proved they were faking.

[–]OneManGOONsquad [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There usually isn't a lot in MLS. Probs why Beckham was fucking with him.

[–]SuperSaiyanNoob [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If you actually watch regularly you'll find that stuff like this (super obvious) is pretty rare and you only ever see it on the front page of reddit once a month. Soccer is pretty physical and a lot of the time players do get injured and just need a few minutes to shake it off before continuing (this seems like they are faking it by lying down for a minute or two then jumping right back up into the play), where we would probably agree is that the play shouldn't stop to accommodate this.

[–]DefinitelyPositive [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah. I wish it wasn't so widespread and 'accepted'- it just really drags the beauty of the sport in the dirt.

I used to have a favorite player in Milan, I think his name was uh... Gattouso? Something like that? He was the fiercest guy ever, and he'd never go down, he'd just keep on beasting and going for it. I loved seeing him play :)

[–]SEXY_MR_MEESEEKS [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They really need to get with the times and check replays to evaluate penalties like most team sports do. It would pretty much kill all that faking bullshit.

[–]greg19735 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

There's no evidence here to show that the guy on the floor was faking an injury.

He looks to be groggy on the ground. Probably due to running for 92 minutes and then being hit to the ground. He was already getting up when the ball came over and hit him. Then he got up more quickly.

[–]whoareyouagain [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What ruins futbol for me is the fact that there is one official and if he didn't see it, it never happened.

EDIT: Grammar