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[–]habba_dasha 60ポイント61ポイント  (9子コメント)

Snowden did the American people a justice though. In no way do I want him in prison.

[–]midgetpornstar 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's ok I don't want Hilary in President either.

[–]MisterJimJim 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

But a president has been in her! Heeeeeyyooooo!

[–]joosegoose25 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe we should just keep Obama in President, you know?

[–]WTFppl 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe we should have a counsel made up of voters, instead of a presidency that seem to work against the interest of the people.

[–]jdepps113 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

He should get a full pardon and the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[–]marx2k -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Pardon from what? He hasn't gone to trial or been convicted of anything.

[–]broadsheetvstabloid 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't need to go to trail or be convicted of anything for a pardon. All you need is charges brought against you. Nixon got a pardon, he never went to trail and was never convicted.

[–]mammothleafblower 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was shocked that Comrade Obama got a Nobel peace prize & Snowden didn't. Kinda hard to have any respect for the Nobel after that.

[–]dawgz525 28ポイント29ポイント  (9子コメント)

Was gonna share this on Facebook but then noticed its from Sarah Palin's super PAC. I hate her so fucking much. Really her super PAC is basically stealing from stupid people she whips up a ton of fake controversy (not this, but in general) says we need to take back America, and she needs donations, then she does what with the money? She hasn't been politically relevant for years unless you are still a member of the tea party (a grassroots movement that people like her have fucking ruined) and even their shenanigans are little more than "hey we've got this Kenyan Muslim in Washington and he hates america and Christians too!" God she can fucking die in a fire

[–]ShrimpSandwich1 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Seriously, if it gets the message across then why does it matter the source? This is why I fucking hate our political machine and one of the reasons I love this sub so much. We are so busy making sure our "ideals" align with everyone else's that we forget the big picture and this is a perfect example. If Sarah Palin turned Libertarian, somehow made it to office, and reduced the size of government significantly, should you then think she was the best person ever?

Shouldn't we be supporting anyone who actually tells us the truth, and calls out others on what's really going on, in our corrupt as hell government? Who cares about her tea party ties, or where she aligns politically? Her PAC called out Hilary on her bullshit so more power to her. When someone else calls her out then more power to them! We are so divided in this country it's ridiculous.

[–]nmhunate 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Do the ends always justify the means?

What if, in lieu of Sarah palin's super pac this meme was sourced by the KKK (an extreme absurd example, they probably don't even have enough money to bleach their sheets anymore)

Do we want to trumpet the truth as told by a hate group?

[–]ShrimpSandwich1 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If it means the truth is heard, yes. Obviously your example was the utmost extreme but I get what you're saying. I'm pretty conservative but if someone from the (FAR) left came out and started calling everyone on their bullshit I would totally stand behind them and support what they were saying.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean what they are saying is wrong. That was the point I was trying to get at and it is something politicians use to belittle the other side. It is basically how they win elections. I don't care what your background is or what you believe, if you are telling the truth, and what you're saying is right, I will stand behind it. I don't particularly like Sarah Palin myself but what she is saying is true, therefore I support her saying it, not necessarily everything else she says, but this particular issue, because it's the truth.

[–]nmhunate 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I respectfully disagree. While I understand your commitment to the truth, I do not think that that goal is the ultimate objective.

We need to pick and choose who we stand behind.

[–]dawgz525 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Palin doesn't deal in politics, she deals in ignorance, manipulation, and bigotry. Her entire site is nothing but half truths and what if questions, she let's other's ignorance fill in the gaps. She's not in favor of pardoning snowden, this is a shot at Hillary, which while I am in favor of, I'm not going to align myself with everyone who thinks Hillary was wrong for using her personal email, bc that's a lot of people and some of those people are manipulative idiots like Palin. She is the opposite of a libertarian, she favors government moral mandates and foreign intervention. Fuck that bitch

[–]broadsheetvstabloid 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Pretty sure that part is joke, Sara isn't even running for office right now, why would she have a super PAC at this point in time?

[–]dawgz525 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, she runs a very active super PAC. Check your facts

[–]broadsheetvstabloid 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I stand corrected. I never claimed anything as fact, just said I didn't think she had an active super PAC (to me it makes no sense why anyone would have one and not be running for any office). I don't give enough shits about Sara Palin, her super PAC, or what agenda they might being trying push to spend my time researching if they exist or what they might be up to.

[–]dawgz525 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I only know bc I have relatives who share a lot of her dumb stuff on Facebook. She left office to found that PAC, that's where all the money is that juicy juicy free speech money. They can do whatever they want with it, they can be as broad in their reasoning as "helping america" and they can do whatever with it. They say they give it to causes and candidates that support blah blah blah.

[–]sillyjohnny 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lying cunt

[–]habeas_corpseMolan Labe 31ポイント32ポイント  (26子コメント)

"But I still don't understand what you think she did wrong" -Clinton supporters

[–]9291 20ポイント21ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every democrat relates to having their email hacked. This will cost Hillary zero votes.

[–]muddypaws 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sarah PAC? LOL

[–]Ciik 12ポイント13ポイント  (18子コメント)

Is perjury a crime?

[–]The_DerpeningNobody Tread On Anybody 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lying during legal proceedings after having sworn an oath not to?

Nah, probably not.

[–]juksayer 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who downvotes a question. Just ignore it or answer it.

[–]Polaris80537 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

That depends on when the definition of "is" is.

Oops...that's a different Clinton. I was thinking of the rapist. My bad.

[–]TheDaveWSClibertarian party -1ポイント0ポイント  (9子コメント)

Rapist?

[–]TheRealDJ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Therapist, he accidentally put a space in there.

[–]Polaris80537 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Bill....

[–]TheDaveWSClibertarian party -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

Who did he ever rape?

[–]delelles 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

“Then he tries to kiss me again. And the second time he tries to kiss me he starts biting my lip (she cries). Just a minute … He starts to, um, bite on my top lip and I tried to pull away from him. (crying) And then he forces me down on the bed. And I just was very frightened, and I tried to get away from him and I told him ‘No,’ that I didn’t want this to happen (crying) but he wouldn’t listen to me.”

[–]Polaris80537 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Juanita Broaddrick, Eileen Wellstone, Carolyn Moffet, Elizabeth Ward, Paula Corbin, Sandra Allen James, Christy Zercher, Kathleen Willey, to name a few.

[–]nmhunate 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Isn't there a presumption of innocence in America?

[–]Graffitilove -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Every American was Raped by Bill when he helped the CIA import coke to Mena, AR as Gov. Iran-Contra started on his soil and on his watch. He helped start the Crack epidemic that destroyed the black community and paved the way for militrization of police.

[–]Ciik -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

lol

[–]Kungfufuman 6ポイント7ポイント  (5子コメント)

Did she actually leak information? I thought she just had TS level documents and information in her emails. Which put them at risk for being stolen. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[–]stmfreakSovereign Individual 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you don't follow protocol for TS info, you have leaked it.

[–]draftermathLibertarian Unicorn 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

protocol and legality are 2 different things.

[–]chequilla 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

When I don't follow protocol, I get fired. I don't get a run at a major promotion.

[–]marx2k 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you also get arrested?

[–]chequilla 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd settle for her being disqualified from the presidency if she doesn't get arrested.

[–]treeman258 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

FUCK HILLARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[–]hiltk692Anarcho-Capitalist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Once again... The hildabeast is not part of the "normal class" of people in this country. She is better than everyone don't you know.

From the Clinton foundation receiving large donations during her time at the state department when she "Never used emails." After those "donations" to the foundation for "speaking fees" the US State Dept. did something for the people donating to the foundation.

To the LONG list of people mysteriously dying around the Clinton's when they would come out against them.

She has also had the nomination bought since '08 when O'bummer won. She had them bought just like the cattle futures right before the price went sky high but nothing to see her people. Move along. Move. Along.

[–]Orlando1701James Mattis 2016 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Life's a bitch, don't vote for one.

[–]chiguyNon-labelist -3ポイント-2ポイント  (31子コメント)

Did Hillary share secret information with people who were not authorized to receive the information?

[–]fatherdeathLibertarian Veteran 26ポイント27ポイント  (8子コメント)

Yes

[–]Disasstah 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

Sorry but Snowden was under no obligation to not release this information. His vow to protect the Constitution trumps his NDA.

[–]174 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

His vow to protect the Constitution

He was no longer a federal employee when he leaked the info so his sf61 was no longer binding.

[–]Disasstah 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's a pretty shitty spot to put someone in.

[–]174 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

What is?

[–]Disasstah -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

To be asked to blow the whistle yet being asked to sign a non disclosure agreement.

[–]174 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

What NDA are you referring to?

[–]Disasstah 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a form you sign to get a job and while it serves a purpose, it's usually used to keep you from talking about how big an asshole a place is.

Find the star talk pod cast with Neil deGrasse Tyson. He interviewed Snowden. You can get house point of view from there.

[–]174 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's a form you sign to get a job and while it serves a purpose

I've seen plenty of NDAs acc I would never call them "forms."

What did Snowden's say specifically?

[–]chiguyNon-labelist -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

What vow to protect the Constitution?

[–]Disasstah 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

A literal vow you take to protect the country and constitution from all enemies, internal and external.

Find the star talk pod cast with Neil deGrasse Tyson. He interviewed Snowden. You can get house point of view from there.

Also i never down vote questions.

[–]chiguyNon-labelist -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

He took the oath when he worked for the CIA, not as a contractor for the NSA. In addition, he shared other sensitive information that wasn't illegal that may have been accessed by foreign enemies, which was also against his oath.

[–]chiguyNon-labelist -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What does that have to do with Hillary?

[–]npeteo 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think you're misunderstanding the term 'mishandled'.

[–]chiguyNon-labelist 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Feel free to expand on your statement.

[–]npeteo 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

'Mishandling classified information', which is what Hillary did, is not the same thing as sharing classified information. Mishandling is what Petraeus did and he lost his job. Mishandling is crime. She doesn't have to share it for it to be a crime

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/08/14/if-hillary-clinton-mishandled-classified-information-heres-what-it-could-mean/

[–]chiguyNon-labelist 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Notice how your source says "if" she handled it. Even your source is not as definitive about it as you want it to be.

[–]npeteo -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

The link is just an example, not a source. There is really no question about it actually. Transmitting classified information through a non-secure media is a security violation. Storing classified material in an unauthorized container (including hard drives or servers) is a security violation. It doesn't matter if an unauthorized person sees it or not.

[–]chiguyNon-labelist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

OK, I'll wait until the FBI and other investigations state something illegal happened. However, what you describe is moving the goalpost from the image macro posted that I initially questioned.

[–]npeteo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Something illegal did happen. Whether they will pursue charges or not is another question. But you're right, The Ed Snowden comparison is not entirely analogous.

After a determination that classified information was found on Mrs. Clinton’s email account, she turned her server over to the FBI as part of a counterintelligence investigation.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-front-opens-on-clinton-emails-1443048659

[–]lemonpartyIn the end, Sanders will tax YOU. 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably, just from what we do know.

If we had access to the thousands of emails she was allowed to wipe at her own discretion, that becomes almost certainly "yes"

[–]chiguyNon-labelist -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's an interesting conspiracy. Lack of evidence does not mean there must be evidence.

[–]marx2k 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

For kooks, it just makes the conspiracy that much more interesting.

The less evidence they are able to attain, it just means there's that much more evidence hiding!

[–]thomas_d 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Publicly exposed what exactly?

[–]boomfoomfriedmanite -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ridiculous comparison