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Vegetarianism and Atheism (self.atheism)

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[–]Anti-TheistiBear83 -7ポイント-6ポイント  (42子コメント)

You're saying that killing things less complex than you is okay if it benefits you.

You need to learn to read better.

I'm saying that intent matters.

I'm saying that morality is subjective and complex, the result of myriad factors interacting.

I'm saying that I think hunting deer purely for sport is unacceptable, but eating the meat makes just enough of a difference that it becomes acceptable.

I'm saying that swatting a fly is acceptable, but pulling its wings off isn't.

I'm saying that even if the dolphin was "severely mentally retarded," I still wouldn't squash it in a trash compactor.

I wouldn't squash a live chicken either. But killing it as humanely as possible for the purpose of consumption is acceptable to me.

So what I'm saying is that every person has a slightly different threshold of what is and isn't acceptable for them.

You think killing and eating a chicken is unacceptable.

That's okay.

I think killing and eating a chicken is acceptable.

That's okay too.

So why don't you actually learn how to read and understand what I'm saying, rather than reflexively arguing with a statement you think I made?

So yes, professor: I can rationally defend my thesis...but only to people who have both the willingness and the capacity to understand it.

[–]yourlycantbsrs 5ポイント6ポイント  (40子コメント)

I'm saying that morality is subjective

Why do you think this? Have you studied meta-ethics much? I'm a moral realist, are you an anti-realist? What kind?

I'm going to only ask this one simple question because it's pretty clear you're getting overly riled up. Calm down and answer the simple questions above, thanks.

[–]Anti-TheistiBear83 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (39子コメント)

Why do you think this?

Years of research, and the ability to recognize the effect that circumstances have on the relative morality of actions.

I tend toward Consequentialism, and Utilitarianism more specifically, though I don't think either is a good summary of my views on morality.

I don't consider myself an ethical egoist: I do believe that a person's intent factors into the overall morality of an action, but that it is generally less important than the results of that action.

In short, I think that whether an action is "right" or "wrong" is determined by a complex interaction of multiple factors rather than an absolute blanket rule.

I'm going to only ask this one simple question because it's pretty clear you're getting overly riled up.

I'm not a big fan of deliberate stupidity.

[–]yourlycantbsrs 6ポイント7ポイント  (38子コメント)

Years of research

What kind of research? What authors have you read?

I tend toward Consequentialism, and Utilitarianism more specifically, though I don't think either is a good summary of my views on morality.

I'm a negative preference utilitarian.

In short, I think that whether an action is "right" or "wrong" is determined by a complex interaction of multiple factors rather than an absolute blanket rule.

I agree.

I think you just don't really know what subjective means.

Do you think that moral claims can be true or false?