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Vegetarianism and Atheism (self.atheism)

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[–]yourlycantbsrs 1ポイント2ポイント  (27子コメント)

Wait, you really think animals aren't sentient?

[–]Y2KNW -1ポイント0ポイント  (26子コメント)

Prove they are.

[–]yourlycantbsrs 3ポイント4ポイント  (24子コメント)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_consciousness

See the Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness.

[–]Y2KNW -1ポイント0ポイント  (23子コメント)

brings pop philosophy to a rationalist subreddit

also: conciousness =/= sentience

[–]yourlycantbsrs 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Regarding your edit: what exactly do you think sentience is? I think it's the ability to feel pain or pleasure and have subjective experiences.

[–]Y2KNW -2ポイント-1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Chickens don't have subjective experiences, they process input through an instinct filter of "eat, shit, sleep, fuck, fight, flee". No chicken will every try to bargain for its life or try to get the group to do things democratically.

Their brains aren't developed enough for that because they're a prey species and are too busy trying to not be eaten.

[–]yourlycantbsrs 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Nice goalpost shifting. What cows or pigs? Or by "animals" did you really just mean chicken? PS you're still wrong about chickens, the science is there and you're ignoring it.

[–]Y2KNW 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

Killed pigs and cows, too. Cows are some of the dumbest things you'll ever deal with. I've also butchered deer, moose, elk, bear, and fish.

I'm starting to think this whole "animals are people too" shit is the result of never actually participating in food gathering or processing.

[–]FlamboyantTurd 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

How many infants and mentally retarded people have you killed? THey're dumber than those animals, so ya know, it's fine to kill them. And make their lives miserable.

[–]yourlycantbsrs -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Animals aren't people, but they are sentient.

[–]Y2KNW 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Animals are food.

Homo sapiens are a predatory species. Live with it.

[–]yourlycantbsrs 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

You're anti science if you think animals aren't sentient.

Or maybe you're busy conflating sentience and sapience.

[–]Y2KNW 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

Anti-vaxxers and creationists are anti-science.

I've chopped the heads off hundreds of chickens and was more worried about getting my shoes dirty.

[–]yourlycantbsrs -2ポイント-1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Anti-vaxxers and creationists are anti-science.

So you're grouped with them when you say things like:

I've chopped the heads off hundreds of chickens and was more worried about getting my shoes dirty.

and saying things like that make you look like a sociopath.

[–]Y2KNW 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

make you look like a sociopath.

u/yourlycantbsrs thinks all farmers are sociopaths, kids. You heard it here first.

[–]yourlycantbsrs 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

People who don't care at all about suffering at all show sociopathic tendencies. You might wanna reread my post so you don't continue to intentionally misinterpret me.

[–]Y2KNW 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

Needless animal suffering is something I don't like.

A quick and painless-as-possible kill, in regards to an animal raised for slaughter is fine with me, as it has for every human culture that has raised animals for slaughter.

[–]Vaxinam[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Define sentient.