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Vegetarianism and Atheism (self.atheism)

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[–]yourlycantbsrs -4ポイント-3ポイント  (12子コメント)

Please look into what an appeal to nature is and how you're committing this error

[–]Agnostic Atheisteinyv 2ポイント3ポイント  (11子コメント)

If you are going to school me on fallacies you might want to get it right. There is a difference between appeal to nature fallacy versus naturalistic fallacy. You are trying to imply that I used the naturalistic fallacy which I did not . No where did I make the claim because it is natural that it is good. My comment is a matter of fact, more calories derived from meat in comparison to non meat so evolutionarily wise and eating meat had an impact on human development. I didn't say it was good to keep killing animals, I did say sometimes it is necessary.

[–]yourlycantbsrs -3ポイント-2ポイント  (10子コメント)

If you are going to school me on fallacies you might want to get it right. There is a difference between appeal to nature fallacy versus naturalistic fallacy.

I know. I've taught college classes on this stuff.

You are trying to imply that I used the naturalistic fallacy which I did not .

No, I said appeal to nature...

I did say sometimes it is necessary.

When is it necessary?

[–]Secular HumanistMerari01 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

If you actually did then you should be fired for getting it so horribly wrong.

But you didn't, so that's good.

[–]yourlycantbsrs -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do you say I'm wrong? Care to explain?

[–]Agnostic Atheisteinyv 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

I am stating you are using the wrong fallacy. It is not the appeal to nature fallacy. The closest you can get based on what I said even though I have not committed it, is the naturalistic fallacy. Naturalistic fallacy is because it is natural it is good. No where did I make that claim. I did however state facts from an evolutionarily standpoint about the calories derived from animals versus non meat. When is it necessary, I already said it, so read again.

[–]yourlycantbsrs -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

You're confusing the fallacies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

vs

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy

[–]Agnostic Atheisteinyv 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

You are right, I mixed the 2 up. So thank you for correcting me from that standpoint. Nonetheless, I still did not commit the appeal to nature fallacy you are claiming. I might have confused the names of the appeal but my point still stands.

[–]yourlycantbsrs -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

You are making that error because you're saying evolution justifies eating animals.

[–]Agnostic Atheisteinyv 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

No I am not. I stated evolutionary wise why they ate animals and it had positive impact on human development. I did not state anywhere that people are justified or that is was good to keep eating animals. I did say if people don't have access to store or live in remote areas where they live off the land then they have to kill animals to survive for food or they die of starvation because non meat sources aren't available. It is not about right out wrong but survival at that point.

[–]yourlycantbsrs -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is it about survival for you? do you need meat to survive?

[–]Agnostic Atheisteinyv 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I am a vegetarian so no Edit add: it doesn't change what I said. I said some people not me specially need to survive.