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first for Demon pasta when?
>>119487502Create one
OHAYOOOOOOOO /rlg/Let's do our best today, ok?
>>119487576I can't do it alone, I need YOUR help.
wow this is neat sure cool money
Does the developer of Demon realize that its biggest problem is feeling like a tactical RPG that was just shoved into a roguelike dungeon layout?I really don't see what it can gain from going the roguelike route over just being a normal trpg.
>>119488507holla holla get dolla
>>119488731thisthere's no real fighting enemies in chokepoints or dancing or anything, the "roguelike" aspect just feels really tacked on.
>>119488731Acshually, its biggest problem right now is that ally AI is buttfuck retarded and thoroughly enjoys suiciding in the most painful ways possible.
>>119488507>killed by mumak minutes laterjust what i wanted
>>119489650>Letting a mumak get in range of a wizardWhat did you expect?
>>119489863literally turned a corner right into italthough my sleep ray probably would've worked, right
>>119488927that's not good gameplay though anon
So... what are some fun roguelites you guys have checked out and actually enjoyed?I know I'm not the only one.
>>119488731Has anyone here played Azure Dreams? I haven't but maybe someone could explain how that game worked compared to this.
>>119490316get out.
>>119490316Off-topic shitposting. Get out.
>>119489564>support PCs are strong but have to deal with dumbfuck AI>tank PCs are weak but don't have to worry about their buffmonkeys and healbots neglecting their duty.I wonder if the two support + two fighter set up that all heterogeneous packs use is also the best set up for the player.
>>119490316NORMIE GET OUTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>119490316Risk of Rain. Binding of Isaac is alright too. FTL is shit. Now off with you.
>>119488891I just died to a pack of three chindi jumping and stunning (?) me before I could retreat. I suppose I could have tried to recruit one, but I think they want hp so it probably wouldn't have helped much.I guess the real trick is to have a better meatshield out than the wisp.
>>119490575>>119490776>>119490867I love /rlg/>>119491171Those games are all pretty shit imo. Was just kind of wondering if there were some diamonds in the rough I've missed over the years.Are there any roguelikes coming up any of you guys are looking forward to? I remember Cogmind awhile back which I'm about to go look up, but I don't know of anything else coming out. I've been out of the scene for a bit.Also is TomeNet any decent with friends? I'm used to Tome4.
>>119491175The wisp is a good meat shield, but it won't stop niggas from pouncing you. I wonder if support class enemies are as easy to pounce kill as support class players.
>>119491724>>119491175Goblin godlike meat shield
>>119490856That might be worth experimenting with, but you'd probably have to run a tank PC or else you'd have your fighting demons suiciding themselves because lol fuck smart AI>>119491175wisps aren't always good meatshields because they tend to move around a lot with that ghost pierce attack which can leave you open. I personally like zombies, they have a good chunk of HP for their level and can take quite a few non-super effective hits. You could also use a mind matrix to fuse a malingee or slime's skillset onto it if you get really lucky.speaking of matrixes, how do you guys fuse demons? do you double down with lifegivers on lifegivers, or do you branch out and make shit like fire/vile hybrids?
>>119491673It's a dead genre and all the games are the same anyway.
Man, fuck snake as a melee dude. Those wily devs have been trying their hardest to make this shit awful.
>>119491673The genre is dead as a post because in their casualization of it, they take out what make these great.If you haven't, Infra Arcana, Brogue, Sil, POWDER, Nethack 4, Dynahack are worth a go. If it fits your flavor, download one-way heroics plus then buy it if you liked it.
>>119492329make a killhole
>>119492412>Infra Arcana My nigga.This game deserves all the praise it gets.
>>119493125Apparently they knocked a floor off lair branches. So it wasn't awful, I was just unknowingly pulling a whole vault's worth of dudes. On the brightside, I finally used disaster area and that shit was pretty nuts.
>>119490316Quest of Dungeons and Sproggiwood are ok. I can't stand how they don't have diagonal movement tho. Really good gateway games to the genre tho and can be a fun break from the hardcore stuff. I've been meaning to play Quest of Dungeons on max difficulty with the new necrodancer class.
>>119491673>>119490316i beat dungeon of the endless recently, I recommend it but found it a snorefest once I figured out how to not suck.Is Crypt of the Necrodancer any good? I saw it on Steam recently.
Can anyone give me a hand? I'm not sure which is better considering how good Elec is
H-here we go.I was really hoping to get a faerie before going here.
>>119493958I don't understand how someone can have difficulty with this choice and yet be smart enough to use a computer.
>>119493958Use the rapier, it'll be a more reliable source of damage than the dagger. Elec is good, but you want it on something a little better than a dagger. +5 str is nothing to sniff at either.
>>119493882Crypt of the Necrodancer is fine for what it is.I'm not a huge fan of rhythm games.
>>119495063Could you explain how a +2 rapier is better than elec? Can you?
Is Frozen Depths worth learning? I really like the concept.
>>119495461The characters inside the curly brackets indicate special advantages this weapon has over non-artifact weapons.
>>119493958i don't know shit buti'm pretty the rapier outdamages the dagger by some. Electrocution gives 5.4(?) damage on average, but that isn't more than the rapier's higher base and enchantments.
>>119495461Much higher base damage, with an ok enchantment/brand. +5 str gives you some extra EV(depending on what you're wearing) and damage as well. So its damage output will be less spiky, and it'll punch through AC easier. If something has rElec, that dagger is utterly useless.
>>119494685I accidentally declined learning swiftness from my raicho.Kill me.Also, what does a silver matrix do exactly?
>>119494746It's really not obvious.
>>119496862Lets you fuse two demons, giving the fused demon a resistance, changing stats, and two new random moves
Dafuq. I didn't encounter any jiangshi or West.
>>119497171Does that mean I should take my normal Wisp that has swiftness + mob cover then feed it to my lifegiver? The life giver has some support skills and crappier combat stats though.
>>119493207First thing in the morning I like to roll a war vet with the marksman traits and just fight through everything blowing my load until my wounds, insanity, or lack of munitions ends me>>119495620Find out and get back to us.
>Tfw you're following the god of elements, but you have shit resistI can't actually take large marge or sojobo 1v1. This is awful. I might just grab the elven rune.
>>119497838It only lets you fuse un-modified demons, Life giver is modified
I want a JoJo rogue like, or a JoJo mod for an existing roguelike like dwarf fortress.
>>119498849Skip the floor, eventually you can just disaster area, net, Phial him.
>>119499043JoJo fags are truly the worst.
>>119499326>disliking jojoWhy
>>119499120I'm taking a break for now, but that seems to be the plan. Hopefully V:4 isn't awful. I've run into Mara as well in Snake, so there aren't very many uniques that could spawn that totally bone me. You think I should switch to the glaive? My damage output seems to be on the low side, and I've had bad luck with enchant scrolls.
>>119499514He didn't say he disliked JoJo tho
Okay, so. The basic strategy here is for the Wisp to kill everything for me while I just sit back and chill with the faerie and gandayah.
>>119499645Dunno, I haven't done a merfolk that used invo past 12 in ages and I don't know how you're setup. If you're hitting reliably at min delay and got some extra fighting, evasion It'd probably do better by virtue of straight up killing all the dudes instead of having to rely on vamp healing to get through.
I have no idea how to kill this guy. Luring away his summons doesn't work (they just get unsummoned at low hp). Probably having half my team not weak to fire would be helpful, but it's a little late for that now.I could run away again, I guess. But I came here to kill things.
>>119500212Here his abilities. I have a lifegiver wisp with almost the same abilities too.
>>119500827One of those black cat things would be handy against him. Pounce then panic his ass and all.
>>119500617http://pastebin.com/pjVVAT90If you wouldn't mind taking a peek.
>>119500827>tfw can't make summoner allies
>>119500827What do your reserved summons look like? Account for training points and shit too.
I just lost my chance to recruit a unique because of a key fumble I did an hour ago(esc past swiftness).
>>119500992Ice dragon armor is kind of bad.Always use scrolls of acquirement for weapons until you have a good one if you're a melee char not following Trog or Oka.If I was playing this character I would be pretty sad about the lack of good weapons, jewelry and armor. Unlucky equipment set.Try the glaive if you haven't.
>>119501774>if you're a melee char not following Trog or Oka*and not using macesFixed for correctness.
>>119501634he still outruns you even with swiftness
>>119500963I discovered the secret. There's a key to pick your summons' target.
>>119501774Its been a rough go. 2 ego plates have spawned, no dragon hide drops. I wouldn't normally use a IDA but it spawned early and I haven't found anything better. Nothing usable above +2 as far as weapons. The glaive is +0. I may switch to the +2 halberd of pain.
I encountered some fire demon thingies. I feel like I should recruit one so I have a more diverse range of damage types. Should I? If so, what should I discard?>>119501994But he doesn't outrun me as fast.
>>119502095I think its time we went to Orc and Elf. I was hoping to go sanic speed on this run, but I just can't get through.
>>119502328Pain does nothing with 0 necro skill.
>>119502123Any advice at all?
Anyone else playing titan fist in Demon?I'm only barely started to actually survive by tanking and dumping points into VIT.Also good god I wish this game had a better demon commanding system.Even just being able to tell these assholes to hold their ground or only use ranged or something would be a godsend.Also tip for anyone else playing Demonif you hold CTRL while moving with arrow keys it makes your demons prioritize following you over engaging the enemy (though if they're slower than you they may fall behind)
>>119502485For some reason, I thought it added a small but reasonable bonus onto each attack for enemies that couldn't resist. How embarrassing.
>>119502628Why not make a suggestion on the forums?>>119502584It moves at normal speed if that's what you mean
>>119502890because I'm not used to Devs listening to me and my ideas are bad aside from...well just port the ally commanding shit from Poschengband or just add a STOP MOVING button.In the current game summoning just at the start of the battle or in the middle seems better then just jumping in with your party.But I play a tank build with titan fist so I have no idea how it feels to be the one behind the demons. at the end of the day I'm just trying to play it like I'm playing Shin Megami Tensei Nocturne by picked titan fist+faerie every time and it's not exactly the best strategy to want to punch everyone in this game.