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So, just got back from the lunch date with the pregnant chick.
Before I got there, I had basically had pre-decided that her and I had no future together as a couple, at least for now, because this is a just a shitstorm of emotion and drama and there's no way this can be a good time to start a hopefully stable long-term relationship. Thanks for all the comments, gave me a lot to think about and even with all the snark you guys were really helpful. I didn't cancel it because it was just lunch, I wanted to shake off my OKC first date rust and I wanted to spare her feelings.
So, I arrive at Panera Bread. Pre-date texts confirmed we were still on. She is five minutes late without warning and I am getting more pissed. I start to imagine the baby's father came back to her and she just blew me off rather than cancel. Finally, she walks in... with a friend. I'm slightly annoyed she's late without a heads up and now there's a tag-a-long. She (my date) definitely is pregnant and even with a coat on you can tell that baby bump and the sight of it makes the hair on my neck stand up. I wish I had canceled the date at this point. They come over to me, we all shake hands. I get introduced to the friend, who then tells us to "have fun" and leaves. Whew.
We stand in line at Panera and wait to order and make small talk about the weather. There's no chemistry. She seems shy and I really don't have any energy to start a convo and now I really wish I had canceled this fucking thing.
We order our food and sit down at a table with our drinks. She leaves her coat on, I wonder if she's embarrassed about her pregnant stomach or what. I ask her what she does for a living. She says "Oh, you know stuff," and then proceeded to not offer any more information. She said it with a smirk so I don't know if she was trying to be flirty but it was pissing me off.
I started talking about my work (engineering). Kind of a dull subject but it loosened us up and the conversation started flowing pretty smooth. It turned to sports, we started talking about baseball (both fans). A reference to drinking beer at baseball games was made and she took the opportunity to segue into her pregnancy, saying "Well obviously I can't get drunk for about four more months," and then like holding her stomach. There's a super tense moment and I don't know what to say.
Our food is ready! I run up and grab it. I come back, she's taking off her coat. She was wearing like this tight grey long sleeve shirt and gotta say (and I always thought pregnant women were a little sexy), she was kind of rocking the look. We sort out the food and start eating and I ask (trying not to sound uncomfortable) "How's the pregnancy thing going?"
She says good and tells me about her last doctor's appointment and she had her first ultrasound done. She reveals she is a nurse and her OB/GYN is in a building attached to the hospital where she works. I say that must be convenient. Finally, I have to know, so I try to ask as casually as possible "So, the father is out of the picture?"
She acted kind of shocked by the question, then said yes. She explained that she was in a long-term relationship and went through her (then) boyfriend's Facebook messages and found he was sending sexy shit to some 'trashy girl.' He left her for 'trashy girl,' and now lives in a town about 30 min away from us. Then she found out she was knocked up. He demanded she get rid of it and she refused. At this point, I wonder if it's rude to discuss abortion in the middle of a crowded Panera Bread on a Saturday at noon. Anyway, her ex said he would never pay child support so she said her plan is to get him to sign away his parental rights, freeing him of child support obligations. She reiterated he was gone forever and would have no involvement in the baby's life. I'm not so sure.
Anyway, this is when the "dad interview" part of the date started and it made me hella uncomfortable. She said "So, you said when you answered your OKCupid questions you want kids?" She basically pressed me to open up about my own family ambitions and I said "Yeah, I want kids someday." I was hella uncomfortable and she said "Yeah, I've always wanted kids which is why I'm keeping the baby. I probably want a few more." She then asked if I had a big family - lots of cousins and nieces and nephews? I'm sure to her she was being smooth but obvious she was trying to feel out my history with kids.
I hella awkwardly segued the conversation into music and then movies and TV shows. We have a lot of the same tastes in stuff. I mentioned the movie "The Ghost Writer" (which is fucking awesome BTW) and told her she should see it and that I have it at home on Blu-Ray. She said "Maybe I'll have to come over and watch it sometime." I was uncomfortable by the implications but said "Yeah, sure." Thinking back, I think I unintentionally made the implication first by telling her she should see it and then mentioning I own it. I'm too nice a guy to let people down easily although it would be more fucking humane.
Some more small talk about local restaurants and crap and finally I said "Well, this was really fun." We wrapped the date up. She gave me a really long 'friendly' hug with lots of body contact. She told me I smelled good and said we should hang out again sometime. I said "Yeah, let's keep in touch." She said sounds good and we said good bye.
Walking out to our cars. We parked about 12 cars apart. Her friend is standing by the car in fucking 50 degree and windy Wisconsin fall weather with a Jamba Juice or something. Her friend drove her or something and proceeded to stand outside for the whole lunch? Who knows. They see me looking at them so we exchange waves before I get the hell outta there.
Got home like an hour ago and started writing this (reddit must know how the date went) and she just texted me reiterating she really had fun and she wants to grab dinner sometime. Despite it being super uncomfortable at certain points, I really like her and think we hit it off but shit. She's pregnant with somebody else's kid - bottom line. I don't know if she would take the father back if he came back. I don't know if I'm ready to be (basically) a stepfather. I don't know how can be in Lemaze classes and the delivery room with a chick I just met. Not to bash adoption or whatever but I don't want to raise somebody else's kid either. Right person, worst possible time. FML. I guess I'll try the slow fade or maybe just be honest with her and tell her what my apprehensions are? I don't know.
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[–]Maladjust--くコ:彡 98 points99 points100 points  (20 children)
Like 80% of the things in this post make me think you should leave this poor woman alone for her and her child's sake.
You are far, far too emotionally immature to date a single mom.
[–]techgrl_boss 30 points31 points32 points  (17 children)
Right? He went on ONE lunch date and had a panic attack about becoming a stepfather.
[–]Maladjust--くコ:彡 58 points59 points60 points  (16 children)
More like. She was five minutes late and he was getting pissed. Good luck dealing with a child. And all kinds of other tells all over the post.
He ain't equipped for this shit yet.
[–]lostinla_okc38/M/LA / Cat Guy 12 points13 points14 points  (0 children)
Yeah, i was gonna comment on the five minutes late anger thing too. Five minutes isn't late to a degree where you should even notice. (certainly here in LA!)
[–]techgrl_boss 3 points4 points5 points  (2 children)
Excellent observation #2.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] comment score below threshold-23 points-22 points-21 points  (1 child)
So you're mad at me for thinking I would be a stepfather and u/Maladjust says I'm too immature to be a stepfather? See the conflicting points of view?
[–]techgrl_boss 21 points22 points23 points  (0 children)
I'm criticizing you. That doesn't mean I'm mad at you.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
Maybe pissed isn't the right word but tensions were high because of the pregnant thing already, thinking about it all night, and then she's not there on time, it's like ehhhhhh.
You're right, I'm not ready. I don't understand why I'm being criticized for 'assuming' I'd be a stepfather. Both of our profiles indicate we are looking for long-term relationships and from what she said the father won't be involved in the kid's life. Maybe I wouldn't be in the delivery room or changing the diapers the first night home but I would be "mom's boyfriend" in this situation if we were in a long-term relationship. I think it's exactly what I should be asking myself, if I'm ready to be romantically involved with a little kid.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 14 points15 points16 points  (0 children)
if I'm ready to be romantically involved with a little kid.
that is not what I meant to type
[–]TheSpooneh24/M/STL 7 points8 points9 points  (0 children)
Every date I've ever been on in the past year the girl has been at least 5 minutes late. It's sort of how things go.
[–]Ebil_shenanigans22/M/Charleston comment score below threshold-10 points-9 points-8 points  (8 children)
Uh, yeah. When you agree on a time, you agree on a time. There's nothing stopping you from arriving early. If you say you're going to be somewhere at a certain time, you act like an adult and show up. 15 minutes early is on time. Show them that you respect them by not thinking your time is more important than theirs.
[–]Maladjust--くコ:彡 16 points17 points18 points  (6 children)
You still assume people are largely in control of their lives.
Things happen. Busses are late, traffic gets bad, the friend who agreed to come with you so you feel safe was dragging their feet, blah blah blah. Wait until you throw a toddler in there. Kids care zero much about your schedule.
If your emotional reaction to rolling with such an incredibly minor punch as a five minute late arrival is to get kinda pissed, you need to spend more time in the world with its people.
[–]Ebil_shenanigans22/M/Charleston comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (5 children)
Proper planning prevents piss poor performance.
Pretty much, always have a plan. If your plan went bad, then it was a bad plan. Take some responsibility and take charge of your own life.
And in my line of work, punctuality is one of the most important things. Your little underhanded insult wasn't unnoticed. If someone agrees to a time, they should arrive at the time. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with being early. In fact, you should try to be early so that in case anything does go wrong, you have buffer time to still show up at the previously agreed upon time.
You still assume people are largely in control of their lives.
You're god damn right they are. People are masters of their own fate. Take charge of your life.
[–]Maladjust--くコ:彡 8 points9 points10 points  (0 children)
ok
[–]heyfgtLying is only fun when you're the only one doing it. 2 points3 points4 points  (3 children)
Sounds like you want to take charge of their life.
[–]Ebil_shenanigans22/M/Charleston -4 points-3 points-2 points  (2 children)
No, I'm just looking for people to have accountability and ownership.
Edit: Love how I'm being downvoted for saying people should have personal accountability.
[–]heyfgtLying is only fun when you're the only one doing it. 8 points9 points10 points  (1 child)
Based on your own made up rules. You ain't God. Just because you value punctuality doesn't mean everyone else does.
[–]Zveng224/M/Spartanburg -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
Eh, maybe it's an area thing. Most people where I'm from value punctuality. Hell you know the quote from Drumline "If you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late."? Yeah that's how most people I know are. I personally always try to be early, but can also understand that shit happens.
[–]mistersplice... 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Like we've all got so much extra time in our lives that we can be early for everything?
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[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Nah, it's just not what I want to sign up for is all and the whole thing made me uncomfortable from the start.
[–]Klinky1984 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Yes, trash someone for being honest about their emotions in this situation. That's the mature thing to do.
Sometimes you really don't know how you'll responded to certain situations until you experience them. Live and learn.
[–]TiggaPleas 21 points22 points23 points  (0 children)
Your only recourse is to put your baby in her and let the best baby win and then marry her.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 31 points32 points33 points  (8 children)
UPDATE
Sent her this:
"Hey <name>. I had a really great time at lunch. I just think we're at different points in our lives and I don't think a relationship would work out between us right now. Best of luck with everything."
[–]TheSpooneh24/M/STL 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
Glad ya handled it well and with respect! Upvoted.
[–]Rogerwilco197440/M/UK, in an OKC LTR 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
Good for you for knowing fading would be a dick move.
[–]JimbosGrows25/M/Searching for that light in your eyes religiously 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Way to man up... Finally =D
Been a fun one to follow mate. GL next time.
[–]techgrl_boss 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Good text. Well done.
[–]mein-herz-brennt24/f DC Area 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I think that's a very polite way of handling it.
[–]ThickDickBrett(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
What was the actual deal breaker for you: potentially having to raise a child, or all the things that come along with dating a pregnant woman? I agree it would be sort of weird to date her while pregnant, but maybe down the line once she has the child and things get a little less crazy it might have been worth it to keep that door open. If you met her when, say, she had a 1 year old child, would this have been a different scenario for you?
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
I have nothing against dating women with kids. The pregnancy thing made it weird. I don't know if she had wanted me to do fatherly things like being in the delivery room with her or change diapers at 3am or whatever but it would have been weird after just five months of dating (or thereabout). This is stuff couples do after like years of being together and we would have to get there quickly. Maybe she really wasn't looking for a baby daddy but she didn't do anything to assuage my fears. Asking about my family, my little cousins and nephews, asking if I wanted a family one day, I totally felt like I was being "dad vetted." Maybe I should have just looked at it as just a first date and not let my mind race ahead but c'est la vie.
[–]SecularNotLiberal25/F/found my bf on okc 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
Nope, I agree, you were being "dad vetted". Babydaddy is out of the picture and won't pay CS so she's on the market for a step-daddy so when the kid is born, it will have a father figure. Insta-family. The fact that she asked you a bunch of kid-related questions and talked a lot about her pregnancy is really telling.
You were right to run. Let her be someone else's fixer-upper.
[–]-savasana-YOU MATTER...I mean, not to me, but to someone 28 points29 points30 points  (1 child)
tl;dr: OP is not ready for kids and should not fucking date pregnant women/single moms.
Geezus.
[–]Klinky1984 4 points5 points6 points  (0 children)
It's helpful for people who might be on the fence about the situation. If the person seems cool, perhaps you might say "hmm, maybe it could work out". Really you probably shouldn't be on the fence, but I think it's just as big of a problem to be like "raising another man's child, no problemo, no need for introspection or second thoughts about the responsibility this entails". At the same time a woman should really be emphasizing how the child is her responsibility and she is not looking for a replacement father or in a rush to squelch her biological clock.
[–]smokeycoughlin 11 points12 points13 points  (4 children)
Don't slow fade. You seem to realize it's shitty to lead someone on. That doesn't change somehow when they're incredibly emotionally vulnerable.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points  (3 children)
Maybe I'll offer to just be a friend but I don't want her to have any hope or anything. I'm really conflicted.
[–]smokeycoughlin 14 points15 points16 points  (1 child)
Sounds like she has friends. If she's looking for a partner, she may not be interested in the consolation prize. I think you're over-valuing how much you mean to her already and what you have to offer her.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Yeah, good point.
[–]Klinky1984 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
No! Don't "friendzone". I would be honest and say something like: "I thought it over and I don't think I am at a point in my life where a relationship between us could work out". End of story.
[–]turible35/M/Toronto 3 points4 points5 points  (3 children)
Thanks for the update!
And yes, I think bringing up abortion would've been a pretty bad idea, but that gave me a good laugh.
Baby daddy is almost certainly not gone forever.
She's in a tough spot, but in deciding to keep the kid, it's of her own doing. But for me, yeah, I could never.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 4 points5 points6 points  (2 children)
I thought maybe I'm a prude or something but talking about "getting rid of the baby" while eating lunch in a crowded public place was a little uncomfortable to me. Maybe it isn't to other people.
[–]turible35/M/Toronto 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
"So, is it too late to get an abortion? And is this soup great or what?"
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
Nooooooo, I didn't mean I was going to suggest an abortion. She just mentioned that her ex wanted her "get rid of the baby" and I was like "sheesh, that's kind of an unsavory topic" to be talked about in public but I might be a prude about these things who knows.
[–]StreetwalkinCheetahback for more 7 points8 points9 points  (5 children)
see ex does not get to decide not to pay. And even if the mom signs away the kids rights when the kid is 18 the kid can come and collect them.
I feel so bad for this kid. =
[–]ottocorrektNew Yawk Shitty | ottocorrect 2 points3 points4 points  (4 children)
I thought that sounded wrong, plus the fact that she's just going to let him off the hook that easy is strange. I know nurses are generally paid well, but he's also the fucking parent of this kid, too. What a jerk-off, I could never imagine just hitting the eject button like that.
[–]Maladjust--くコ:彡 10 points11 points12 points  (3 children)
You'd be amazed at what single mothers will do to get a shitty father out of the picture.
We never saw the money.
[–]ottocorrektNew Yawk Shitty | ottocorrect 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
That is a fair point. However, if the main reason they broke up was that he's a potentially cheating dick, that ranks pretty low on the reasons I'd expect someone to cut complete contact and responsibility for a child over. That's what happened with my ex's father and he ended up paying child support and/or alimony and was legally obligated to put three of his kids through college. If the father was an abusive, sexually assailing addict, that would be another story. We're likely not hearing the full story from her, understandably.
[–]LifefueledbyfireBachelor Mom 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
If he said he'll never pay child support, chances are he will barely want to see the kid. By having him signing away his rights now, itll be easier for a stepparent to adopt the child and be a proper father figure in that childs life.
[–]StreetwalkinCheetahback for more 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
State will garnish his wages. States receive matching federal funds for every dollar they collect through wage garnishment. So even when the parents pay without issue many states require payment through state collection agencies without making the families jump through hoops.
[–]Logos1000 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
I think you're getting ahead of yourself in a mind-numbing way by imagining yourself as a stepfather after a single lunch. She's fully aware that she's in an awkward spot, but you're making it much weirder. If there's a connection, set a date #2 and go for it. If you can't bear another couple of hours with a pregnant lady, move on. I think that she's trying to date, just like you are, not expecting you to slide in as dad replacement after Panera.
[–]dadudemon31/ M / Midwest 6 points7 points8 points  (1 child)
Maybe you were in a bad mood but your post makes you seem like a massive dick and a giant douche.
I think it is just your mood because you're scared shitless of a potential future. You want love, you eventually want a family. And she's into you. But she's pregnant and you'd have to be an instant dad in 4 months.
Is that why you are coming off so insensitive in your post?
Regardless, you have to be all in, from the beginning, to make something like this work. A step-kid may already have a tough childhood. They do not need a fickle father figure in their life. If you're not ready to be a step dad, right this very moment, don't date her and move on.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Yeah. Exactly. I'm a nice and caring guy (I swear!) and not the shitty little boy I sound like. And I do want a wife and family and I do find her attractive and awesome. So, I guess in essence it is kind of everything I want but I barely know her, it's somebody else's kid, and the stuff we would go through in the next 4-12 months is stuff that couples should go through after being together for YEARS and we obviously wouldn't be. I was really conflicted by the whole thing because a part of me wanted to jump in and commit to this (if it worked out) and the other part was like "run away, stupid." Also I have some baggage from my past relationship that isn't helping either. Mentally it wasn't just a fun first blind date where you try to get to know the other person, there was a lot of future implications I was thinking about and it was aggravating.
[–]getmeoffokc 2 points3 points4 points  (2 children)
I understand you're overwhelmed about the thought of taking on responsibility but it's your anger that alarms me. You say "She is five minutes late without warning and I am getting more pissed. I start to imagine the baby's father came back to her and she just blew me off rather than cancelled". Why are you getting "more" pissed? What has she done to get you pissed at all? Also, she's 5 minutes late and had already pre-texted. Did you want her to text and drive? Your first thoughts are that she's back with the ex? Egads. Do everyone, including yourself the favour and text her back saying you weren't feeling it and good luck.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 1 point2 points3 points  (1 child)
It wasn't really anger, just like annoyance.
This is going to sound like I'm making excuses or looking for pity (I'm not) but my last relationship was with a woman who had borderline personality disorder and she would fuck with me and try to manipulate my feelings by doing shit like this (being late to stuff and then not answering texts, and getting mad when I was mad/concerned/whatever) so I guess I'm still looking for hidden meanings when a (potential) SO isn't where they're supposed to be when they are.
[–]Klinky1984 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
I grew up with a mom who has BPD. It makes it hard to just "go with the flow" when you've been getting mixed messages your whole life.
Best of luck in getting out there and finding the right woman who will treat you with respect.
[–]jelly_raindrops28F/UK 2 points3 points4 points  (1 child)
I'm not criticising you when I say this, but I do wonder why you even went on the date in the first place given you already had some reservations (as you explained in your previous post) PLUS you say here that you "pre-decided" you wouldn't date her before you even met up. Why did you not just cancel, apologise, wish her the best and move on? Since, yknow, that's what you're gonna do anyway? Just seems like a bit of a waste of everyone's time. But hey. Whatever man.
For the record, I can completely understand your reservations - I think I'd stay the fuck away too. But more than that, I think you're sensible to consider the implications of the future - while some may argue you're getting ahead of yourself, the inevitability is that she won't be pregnant forever and there WILL be a kid to contend with. So if that's not cool, then you need to work through that.
Good luck! Maybe don't attempt to date preggo ladies in future? :)
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 2 points3 points4 points  (0 children)
It was my first "first date" in over a year, so I wanted to kind of wanted to break that in again. Maybe that's a dick move, I dunno. Also liked her profile, she was attractive and we both were looking for the same thing and had the same interests. She's just pregnant. So I figured what the hell, give it a shot and see how it goes. At the very worst, I'm out the $17 for lunch and I had a nice pregnant lady for a lunch companion. I'm sure she would have felt led on and that is shitty.
[–]techgrl_boss 3 points4 points5 points  (9 children)
Right person(?)
You just met her. You spent one lunch date together.
You're thinking way too far ahead in terms of the "raising somebody else's kid" and "stepfather" concerns. Scheduling a second date doesn't mean you're on the hook to be a daddy. Jesus Fucking Christ.
What's more realistic is what's going to be happening to this woman's body over the next few months and the issues she's going to be dealing with as an expectant parent. She's been abandoned by the father of her child. That guy can rot in hell. She's probably looking for a man in her life who she can trust and rely on, because her world is about to get a shitton harder. Being someone she can rely on emotionally, intimately, doesn't sound like something you're interested in or even capable of at this time. That's okay.
Don't fade on a pregnant woman. Dick move. Text her back, tell her you had a nice time but you don't think you'd make a good match. (DO NOT GO INTO AN EXPLANATION ABOUT WHY.) Wish her the best. The End.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 3 points4 points5 points  (8 children)
Calm yourself.
First - I don't mean she's "THE ONE." I meant I like her and think she's attractive and under circumstances I could see us in a relationship.
Second - How can I not think about the parental obligations? She's pregnant and looking for a long-term relationship. Obviously I'd be involved in the child's life to some degree if we were going to have a relationship. Her soft grilling about the little kids in my family made that clear. Plus, I was told yesterday by people on this sub that even if I'm not biologically the father or sign the birth certificate, she could calm I was the de facto father in court or something and try to get child support payments out of me. Maybe that was bullshit, but there are LEGAL and MORAL questions here.
Being someone she can rely on emotionally, intimately, doesn't sound like something you're interested in or even capable of at this time.
You don't know shit about me or what I'm capable of. I wrote one post after a very confusing and emotionally uncomfortable first date with a nice person in a crap situation. I'm sorry you don't think I handled it perfect but I gave a very raw unfiltered version of my thoughts.
Don't fade on a pregnant woman. Dick move. Text her back, tell her you had a nice time but you don't think you'd make a good match. (DO NOT GO INTO AN EXPLANATION ABOUT WHY.) Wish her the best. The End.
That's good fucking advice.
[–]techgrl_boss comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (7 children)
The raw, unfiltered version of your thoughts is filled with yuck.
I'll agree, it's unusual to date someone who's pregnant so I can't imagine people would have much experience to go on here. But as someone who's dated single parents can promise you, one date does not a stepparent make.
No, she is not going to get child support payments out of you for dating her while she's pregnant or even after the kid is born. That's what the child's biological father is responsible for, not you. The state of Wisconsin (if that's where he also lives) will deduct child support payments from his wages.
It's true, I don't know shit about you. Just what you posted. And like I said, it's filled with yuck.
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 6 points7 points8 points  (3 children)
The whole "stepfather" thing mostly comes from the fact we both want long-term relationships, and she says the father is out of the picture. If we tried it and it worked out, I would be in her life when her child is born. I have an obligation to think about if I want to get involved in this. Would you rather I just pretended she wasn't pregnant?
[–]techgrl_boss -4 points-3 points-2 points  (2 children)
I think the way you've been describing your thoughts in both this post and the initial one is really offputting. First, the way you described some trucker or whatever coming after you, and now the one date = stepdad paranoia. Your logic would be sound if you had built a rapport with this woman, were genuinely interested in her and knew whether you were compatible for even short-term dating. But you hadn't gotten anywhere near that initial step and were already envisioning future parenting -- even legally enforced financial! -- responsibilities.
I'm criticizing you heavily, and I apologize. I assumed you had actually given measured thought to this stuff when you read her profile, before you asked her out. She disclosed this information about herself on there, so it wasn't a surprise. It's not like she hid it, you were having a phone call the night before the date and she threw it at you then.
But you clearly didn't give this much thought. Honestly, I don't even know why you went on a date with her. A date with someone you know is totally incompatible is better than no date at all? Of all the people you could jump back into the dating saddle with, you chose a pregnant woman who's obviously looking for real emotional support and reliability from a partner after her last one cheated on her and left her to raise a kid on her own with no financial support. (I'm pro-choice so I respect her choice, but I totally disagree with it. Nonetheless, it's not my body or my life. My heart goes out to this woman and I wish her the best.)
Definitely do the right thing and text her a kind goodbye, and as I think you've already figured out, don't date any woman who has kids. Not yet. You're not ready for it.
P.S. A good way to ask about the other biological parent's involvement in a child's life is to ask a mother what kind of support structure she has (or will have) for raising a kid. That's when she'd be able to say, "Well, my sister/mother/father are going to provide child care when I go back to work and I'm going to live with so-and-so, etc."
[–]Klinky1984 4 points5 points6 points  (1 child)
No one should assume they're compatible for short-term dating before the first date. He took the first step to determining what you're telling him he didn't attempt to do.
You're also dehumanizing this woman into a victim of pregnancy and emotional need, which OP "took advantage of", while also completely trashing OP over his own emotional honesty. Men don't have emotional needs or insecurities?
[–]techgrl_boss -3 points-2 points-1 points  (0 children)
Men don't have emotional needs or insecurities?
I never trash people for emotional honesty. I also am very heavily involved with abortion rights activism and have been since I was part of the March for Women's Lives in 2004, so your "victim of pregnancy" comment is laughable, considering this woman chose to carry a pregnancy to term and is excited to be a mom. My treatment of her involves nothing but respect and support. Seriously, don't even go there.
I've already explained my issues with the OP's choices. At this point he's ended things and that's all that matters. /endscene
[–]Klinky1984 1 point2 points3 points  (2 children)
Your comment is filled with yuck. Seriously, take a step off your high horse. He is not wrong to seriously consider the implications of bringing a child into his childless life.
[–]techgrl_boss 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
He asked her out knowing she was pregnant and the father was out of the picture, then freaked out. That's immature and selfish. But he ended things right, so no harm, other than her time being wasted.
[–]Klinky1984 3 points4 points5 points  (0 children)
An OKCupid profile and first date is not a contractual obligation stating you're absolutely okay with everything about someone. Having second thoughts and dud dates is common. You go out with people who you think there is a spark. There shouldn't be any expectations on either side.
[–]lostinla_okc38/M/LA / Cat Guy 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Our food is ready! I run up and grab it. I come back, she's taking off her coat
All the Paneras here now bring your food to your table after giving you a number on the little standup card. Are they still on the buzzer system there?
[–]krbin29/M/Milwaukee[S] 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
One of those little pager things that lights up here.
[–]Used-Car-Salesman26/M/RFRAville 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Anyway, this is when the "dad interview" part of the date started
Ewwwwww...
I know you gotta do what you gotta do when you have a kid to feed, but I'm not looking forward to heading into the "oh, shit, this is a dad interview" phase of my dating life.
Don't slow fade, though. Your concerns are legitimate and you shouldn't be afraid to own up to them.
[–]wrxninja(ˆڡˆ)∙∙°(sushi) 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
Replying so I can reply my in depth thoughts later next week. I've been there. My oldest daughter's father is out of the picture and signed his rights away. In either case take your time. Really a good long time so she's not rushing you or giving fake hope.
[–]IHateTheRedTeamje me souviens 0 points1 point2 points  (0 children)
For what it's worth, having been the baby, you would have been a father, not a stepfather. Good decision though.
[–]Tobor_Yllemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NczLNctogZk -1 points0 points1 point  (2 children)
Just act like you don't have much money and she'll bail asap
[–]sunshineweave19/F/loveable 0 points1 point2 points  (1 child)
Or invite her over to "watch" that movie. (Poundtown)
[–]Tobor_Yllemshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NczLNctogZk 1 point2 points3 points  (0 children)
Should watch Rosemary's Baby
[–]Ass_McCool comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points  (0 children)
bang her for a few months and then disappear before she gives birth. dont hang around for single moms it's always drama and their baby comes first before you
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