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[–]dogboy1317 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

So wait, if we didn't get the safe reward then we would of had to pay for micro transactions to be added?

[–]sycophantpancakeHYPE Fuel 22ポイント23ポイント  (5子コメント)

Saw this in one of the forum threads.

http://i.imgur.com/XaFyfk2.jpg

'him' being our lord Almir

What a joke.

[–]Sagari12Infamous V-100 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

What most of us want is an apology and unfucking this situation. Not the usual oh we thought you might like that but we were clearly mistaken kind of shit. Either scap that entire idea or make it aviable ingame without any external purchase. That is the news i'm waiting for. Inb4 overkill does fuck all and goes under.

[–]AkaiKuroiCrook 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's actually quite true. They fucked up big time, but people are so pissed, they won't hear any voice of reason whatsoever.

[–]taiwan86 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anything short of a full apology saying "yes, We dun Fucked up and we were greedy, Sorry" will be construed badly.

Sadly, I don't think he can apologize. I think it's some Higher Exec's Pet Project to institute the Mann-conomy and he has no say.

[–]DasHuhn 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Anything short of a full apology saying "yes, We dun Fucked up and we were greedy, Sorry" will be construed badly.

My best friend works for a decent sized gaming company that had a huge uproar in the last 3 years. They made a decision about microtransactions that they later reversed. Their community was like this one is before the decision, and when they apologized, reversed it, and tried to throw out some shit as an apology the community became even more angry and upset.

There is nothing Overkill can do to squish this mob. They want mob justice and mob justice only. If overkill refunded 100% of the money everyone spent in the last 3 years it wouldn't be enough.

I'm not sure what happened on day 1 / 2, but I feel really, really sorry for the majority of the devs there. I guarantee most of them had their reserves / complained about it, and when they were shut down, they now have to defend it to this mob who wants blood. It's an incredibly shitty thing. Please don't forget that these are people, too, and likely didn't have any final say about this decision.

[–]Roxxar123 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would really hope they say SOMETHING anyway. I'd rather be informed of what's going on and misinterpret it instead of being obliviously lead into the hellhole that is Crimefest 2015 (insofar).

[–]JarlTankMastermind 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Payday 2, the only game where a money bundle hit is just as harmful as a sharp knife.

[–]Stu-Potato 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

Anyone else noticed that the answer to the question "Free?" on the roadtocrimefest page has been editted?

Previous Answer: All Content that is unlocked during Crimefest is released for free for the entire community of PAYDAY 2.

Current Answer: Every feature* that is unlocked during Crimefest is released for free for the entire community of PAYDAY 2.

Note that this changed after the backlash of the community.

So they made a promise they didn't think twice about and now they changed what they promised because they did something stupid. Is Overkill a dumb person or is it a corporation? I forgot.

[–]VoraciousBadger 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Good catch. I would say skins are a feature of the game, certainly if they affect stats, so even this wording doesn't suit them well.

Knock on wood.

[–]Stu-Potato 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know. It's really silly. To throw in an allegory, it's like if they were to say that they were releasing a free DLC. They then release the update but you have to pay for it in-game to unlock it. The update is still free, but you can't access the content. In my opinion, the skins don't even fit the style of the game.

[–]CodenameXXIII 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Any official statement from overkill?

[–]McNamoo 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow, I am so glad I stopped playing this game months ago. Pay to win microtransactions? Is OVK that out of the loop to not realize that there'd be a major backlash over this, especially when they've promised otherwise in the past, and especially during a time they're supposed to be rewarding the community? After building such a strong community, I could definitely see this being the final straw that drives a significant number of people away from the game, what with so many other AAA titles on the horizon.

I played on 360 originally, & while I know this sub hasn't exactly been sympathetic toward the console crowd, I knew OVK cared more about maximizing profits than players after making us wait almost an entire a year for a single update, then after one update telling us to buy a current gen version to get more updates and, to rub salt in the wound, that we wouldn't be able to transfer progress forward. I bought the current gen version anyway, and unsurprisingly there was a game-breaking glitch at launch that took a month and a half to patch and prevented joining into public lobbies. Of course though, in that month and a half, they had no problem churning out paid weapon packs & DLC to throw money at.

Even after I finally got a decent gaming PC, I swore I'd never waste my time with any other product OVK was attached to.

[–]Stupid_Pink_Dog 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

PD2 was my go-to game for winding down after a long night. Get home, stumble up stairs, piss in toilet, boot up Payday 2 and shout at my friends drunkenly as we fail basic stealth.

450 hours and most of the DLC bought...

[–]brotoriouspugTechnician 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know what I'd ike to see? I'd like to see them fix all the problems, repair their PR, in a couple months do the next event... And next to nobody participates. I honestly think they're done after this. Going f2p and attracting all the kids who still play TF2 should be their only option.

[–]NarkahUdashHYPE Fuel 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4muRYqymAgc Was made by a brilliant member of the community. And it's beautiful.

[–]StillesChaos 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm truly disappointed by this.

[–]shinsui 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't forget, we have 4 more masks coming with the meme masks

[–]Crazyhobo-239♠IV 20ポイント21ポイント  (10子コメント)

You know what? no, fuck this. I defended them yesterday hoping they would fix the dissapointment of day 1, but this is just pathetic. 5 masks and no fixes?? Really? Did we really create events, played for hours, just to get shitty microtransactions, and five masks? I got a refund from the dlc I bought, and now it's time to find a new game.

[–]Glassclose 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

used to rock payday like no end, now I just sit in silence. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92XVwY54h5k

[–]InsidiousObserverInfamous II 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

NOW I JUST SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT Calm relaxed piano

[–]ThePotatoSandwich 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I highly suggest checking out any of the stealth games on sale right now in the Steam Stealth Sale.

[–]Gay4MrBurns 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Would you recommend any of them?

[–]Tagard_McStoneMastermind 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Splinter Cell, SC:Pandora Tomorrow, SC: Chaos Theory (best in the series IMO), and SC:Double Agent. Ghost Recon and its expansion Island Thunder and Desert Siege. Good Clancy games.

Assassins Creed 2 is the best in that series IMO.

Far Cry Blood Dragon is a fun 80's shooter satire.

Deus Ex original is older but has modern looking mods for it.

[–]Oh_Alright 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Deus Ex is the best singleplayer PC game I have ever played. If you can get over the dated visuals (the game came out in 2000) I believe it is a must play for anyone who games on PC.

[–]AnonymousLampstealer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Deus Ex: Revision has been released as a free mod on Steam.

[–]Tagard_McStoneMastermind 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

"You heard it here, folks."

[–]ThePotatoSandwich 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Depends, really. Obvious stuff like Dishonored and Skyrim I highly recommend. I also recommend trying out Gunpoint, really enjoyed the game and the mechanics.

[–]cstyves 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I sincerely hope they are in damage control right now.

And I hope this is why we received 5 masks in Day 2... Maybe they're changing their plan and the only thing they found to gave us is 5 shitty masks.

BUT If it was the initial plan, this plan is bad and you should feel bad. You can't sweep this situation under the carpet. Man up, talk to us and please, next time you plan to scramble your 4 y/o game with micro-transaction, can you please consult the community.

We trusted you, we bought your DLC's and we worked with you for growing the community up to 3,200,000 members and you thanks us with... a freaking tax on stats enhanced skins.

Pathetic... at least, fix your damn netcode before monetizing your shit.

Edit : formatting

[–]Juggernaut246 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ynx26LJ1YC4

IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOOOOOWN

[–]Sagari12Infamous V-100 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

Masks.... They just gave us masks for day 2 And gave us the usual PR non-answer of we are looking into it. Amazing. They have dug out their own graves. How can they get out now I have no idea.

[–]Murray-Mint 39ポイント40ポイント  (8子コメント)

Once again, Reddit has been left disappointed by a safe.

[–]YouqiHYPE Train 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh man, perfect.

[–]NevermoreTheRaven 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I don't get it.

[–]repthe306 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

On March 16th, 2013, Redditor dont_stop_me_smee submitted five images of a large-sized safe vault to the r/pics subreddit, claiming it was found in a friend’s new house in New Zealand that had previously served as a drug house, which naturally led to to extensive speculation as to what could be inside the safe.

Within the first 48 hours, the post garnered more than 41,000 upvotes, 3,100 points overall and 5,500 comments, while the Imgur gallery was viewed more than 1.6 million times. While many commenters in the thread seemed excited by the story still in development, some expressed skepticism towards its significance and speculated that the opening of this safe may not live up to its hype, even drawing a comparison to the live opening of Al Capone’s vault in 1986.

On December 23, 2013, the original poster appeared again on Reddit with pictures documenting his use of a torch to burn the vault open, revealing that it was empty, save for some shelves and a spider.

[–]Mikewazovski 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't think it was the same OP, from the comments in the opening post, it seems as if someone else opened the safe after getting the house and recognizing that it was the infamous safe house

[–]Gay4MrBurns 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

There was a safe that was on reddit that got super hyped up. Person who posted about it disappeared. Awhile later some other user finds the safe in a house they bought and opens it. Just a spider and a web.

[–]NevermoreTheRaven 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Huh. I can kinda imagine the hype when they "rediscovered" the safe.

[–]AgusTrickzFirst of many 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

I refuse to believe that Cagliostro's secret was skins for weapons.

[–]tharghtor 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

it wasnt. It was MICOTRANSACTION SKINS for weapons

[–]Karihko 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Truly the greatest criminal in history!

[–]funnynickname 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can win by cheating! Just pay us moneyz and we give you better weaponz!

[–]Shadowking78 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Thanks for your feedback thus far! There's been a lot of discussion and community feedback in the community hub since the launch of Crimefest. Please remember to keep it civilized and adhere to the forum rules. We'll continue to read your feedback as we work on finalizing the remaining Crimefest content.

Thanks!"

Disappointing

[–]acwarren492 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're really embracing the whole Skin Offensive thing, even adopting the "family show" meme from /r/globaloffensive

[–]prrgWeeaboo-san 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

civilized

pfvvv

FAK u OVERSHILL

[–]bacon_cakes 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

Day 2 is now up, with... new masks, and no acknowledgement of the dissatisfaction of the community. I think the last of my hope that something might change just went out of the window.

[–]doctorsawbones 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

they arent even cool masks, just silly ones that are pretty ugly

[–]samplebitch 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Same here. And it's just "5 masks". Do we get all 5? Do we have to unlock them? There's like literally nothing on the page but 5 masks and their descriptions.

[–]bacon_cakes 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, at least, we were all probably expecting at least a few masks as part of Crimefest. It's more the lack of anything that directly addresses the upset that is disappointing.

[–]Gay4MrBurns 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. There is acknowledgement. Just not good ones.

Thanks for your feedback thus far! There's been a lot of discussion and community feedback in the community hub since the launch of Crimefest. Please remember to keep it civilized and adhere to the forum rules. We'll continue to read your feedback as we work on finalizing the remaining Crimefest content.

[–]Mazzzzer 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

Sooo.. 5 challenges for 5 masks.. I was expecting a BIT more , but hey , lets give it the benefit of the doubt and wait for the other days. and continu to yell at Overkill for the 2.49€ fucking drills.

[–]tooom80 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Not to mention the 4 meme masks we're also going to get, it's looking like at least 9/25 challenges were just masks.

[–]Okrai 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

i have a pretty good feeling that buttshot, winters came and went, and self defense i swear are also gonna be masks. so that's 3 more rewards to look forwards too /s

Edit:: after looking at the "rewards" from RTC it looks like each heister unlocked 3 masks so clover unlocked "a hundred different ways" and "dark arts", and i'm guessing "an offer they cant refuse" will be her next two mask unlocks. dallas gets "lets do this", "payday all day every day", and either "Winters came and went" or "buttshot" houston gets "self defense i swear", "jacket up", and "i looked and behold a white horse" chains already got "unbox day" and "i am a stone i do not move", and its a pretty safe bet "get the fuck down" will be the last one.

[–]My-Little-Throw-Away 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wait, meme masks?

[–]prrgWeeaboo-san 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep.

Troll, LOL and rage masks are coming back from PD:TH.

A new meme mask (doge) for Clover also coming.

[–]tooom80 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was the general speculation on what the four vintage meme hints referred too, as meme masks were in the first payday.

[–]PutOnYoWarface 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

4 Of the challenges were vintage memes. I think some guy found in code of the site that these were for 4 meme masks just like we had them in payday the heist.

[–]krystreeGage 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Day 2 and they still haven't released a statement. Uninstall PAYDAY people. This train just stopped.

[–]sexybootTiara 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice. The most hardest, grindiest, time-consuming challenges gave us...

Masks.

Thanks, the hard working community. Those masks were worth it.

[–]PineappleDavid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

WOW, Day 2 and all we get is masks...

[–]isnotav 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm wondering why OVK hasn't made any statement with the whole community exploding like this...

EDIT: Day 2 are 5 masks out of 5 hints. Including Jacket Up.

[–]reside123 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3127521

"We've made it clear that PAYDAY 2 will have no micro-transactions whatsoever (shame on you if you thought otherwise!) and we've made it more clear that the PAYDAY loot bag is part of the Career Criminal Edition as well. "

[–]ZockMedic 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Since Goldfarb left, Payday 2 just got worse and worse. A shit ton of DLC, in-game micro transactions, a stupid new inventory which is even worse to navigate through, new heisters who don't make any sense to me... Instead of working on the safehouse customization announced in 2013(!), they just milk us to get even more money. Payday 2 is dead for me. It was a great game. It WAS.

[–]TequatlPatakInfamous I 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

50 MB Update just started downloading for me. Anyone else?

http://i.imgur.com/eHzDjEU.png

EDIT 1 WE GOT 5 MASKS FUCKING AMAZING

Edit 2:

Thanks for your feedback thus far! There's been a lot of discussion and community feedback in the community hub since the launch of Crimefest. Please remember to keep it civilized and adhere to the forum rules. We'll continue to read your feedback as we work on finalizing the remaining Crimefest content.

THEY ARE LISTENING

[–]FuzzierSage 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

THEY ARE LISTENING

I wouldn't go that far. At least, not with them listening to the actual points being made.

We'll probably get something like...

"Thanks for your feedback! We've seen that some people who aren't as dedicated to seeing Payday 2 succeed are dissatisfied with the way Crimefest has rolled out. We'll keep reviewing your feedback going forward from the end of Crimefest, but we think that all of our truly passionate fans are going to greatly enjoy what we've got in store for the next two years. The drills, go get them!"

[–]trakmiro 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're hearing us, but doing the equivalent of lowering the blinds to their office window.

"Oh yeah, we hear you out there, just quiet down, we're trying to count our money!"

[–]ATeaAtLaw♠VI 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

This update has got to be a ruse. I mean, they removed the speed reduction on the minigun but didn't remove the mods that boost speed, and now ammo pickup is enabled. So now the minigun makes you move extremely fast, and couple that with Grinder, dodge, two-piece suit and swan song aced and you're unstoppable.

[–]taiwan86 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It really does seem like no one playtested any of this. How many developers do they have on staff? like 50? must have taken a whole lot to implement Crimefest. By the Soul of Simon Viklund, why didn't anyone paly test this?

[–]Princess_Cherry 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wait, they did that for the minigun too? This update just got better...

[–]Bacon_Thief 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes they did. If you have the "I'll take half that kit" on it, it actually BOOSTS your speed to ungodly levels. It's amazing.

[–]ATeaAtLaw♠VI 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems they did it for the minigun and the LMGs, but as far as I'm aware the LMGs don't have speed boosting mods. I was just running around the top floor of mallcrasher mowing shit down, it's insane.

[–]cstyves 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was still hoping a fix for desynch & poor netcode but now I'm just sad. They prefer milking out the community instead of fixing there performance issue. I've enjoyed many DLC's and I had many hours of fun but some issues haven't been fixed and we can clearly notice that their only priority is to make more money.

After nearly 400 hours of gameplay, it's time to switch to something better.

[–]Aquahawk911Fugitive Mastermind 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, we still haven't seen what the net challenge is... But at this point I have no faith in OVERKILL

[–]EbonTheLord 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have 400 hours too and Payday 2 is already feeling dry, ya got Payday The Heist?

[–]cstyves 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of course, but I'm actually pissed off so I will bitch any of their games/products.

I've tried Rocket league recently and I've to admit it's very good, funny, rewards are cosmetic only and the performance is perfect.

[–]VexusFraith 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like skins, but I am not a major fan of skins increasing that stats of certain weapons, I see why they did it but the way they implemented it IMO isn't great

[–]BlackMastodon 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really don't like the concept of skins, at all...It turns a somewhat honest and easygoing community into a vain, envious, and despicable group of attention-wh0res. It starts to draw away from the harmonious co-op gameplay so you can merely stare are each other's "skinned" arsenal while a horde of cloakers drop-kick you and your team in the face in their attempts to take you back to reality. It happened in TF2, it happened in CS:GO, and it will most certainly happen in Pay2Da-I mean Payday 2.

Just my two cents on the matter...

[–]BlackMastodon 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain...

GG OVK, you lost all sense of originality and dignity (thanks for lying to us, by the way) by caving into micro-transactions. I was thinking about getting the GOTY edition during Crimefest, but after the immense amount of disgust I've had with skin and cosmetics in the TF2 universe in their attempts to rip off of the CS:GO model, you can pretty much forget about that.

OVK Pay2Day confirmed

[–]tfgo_thrwway 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel like playing Payday 2, but I had not downloaded the new update yet for fear of the rebalances and crates fucking up the Payday 2 I was promised by Overkill. Is there a way to continue playing the game without downloading the new update at all?

It sucks to play the game in Steam offline mode and not have any stats tracked/pubbing with randoms on Hoxton Breakout attempt #53594, and I'm wondering if there are any alternative methods. Having spent $5 on this game in a offer, I have every right to demand a quality experience and this bullshit works against it.

Granted, skins aren't a bad idea, and I wouldn't mind that IF IT DIDN'T GIVE A FUCKING ADVANTAGE BECAUSE SOMEONE PAID MORE MONEY THAN ME. One thing I admired pre-Crimefest 2015 is that how one can beat the game without all the DLC guns/character packs' weapons and perk decks/heist-introduced weapons, albeit with high difficulty. But then again, bullshit like the Mod Courier job/grenades from weapon pack #01/LMGs from weapon pack #02(hell, there is a fucking LMG in The Heist without a paywall in place, dafuq?) are things that should have been shipped with the game.

Granted, I'm a new player at 33 hours clocked in, so I probably shouldn't have a say on DLCs and most of my words wouldn't have any impact to the guys at Overkill. (Hell, where the fuck are they? Almost a day in and no word from Almir or Andreas at all - Chains was the only one to do damage control and he isn't Overkill's PR in anyway [am i right to say that? no?]), but seeing that I've paid for the game I feel i have every right to say this. A forced implementation on skins that affect gameplay and a microtransaction system to go along with it is not providing quality content to your customers. I'm pretty sure some of us feel cheated that this is the 'free content' we worked our asses off grinding Hoxton Revenge/Rats/Meltdown or playing a part in the Road together. And the saddest thing? 2 years ago, even the devs laughed at the ridiculous idea that Payday 2 needed microtransactions. And today, this is statement is such a fucking joke it made the Alesso heist look like it is actually worth something compared to 10 million more pixels slapped on a fucking revolver shotgun that's already great enough on it's own.

I'm sorry for the sudden off-topic rant, I just got pissed thinking about the undownloaded update I purposely refused to install.

[–]doctorsawbones 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is there a way to continue playing the game without downloading the new update at all?

put steam in offline mode and just play with the ai assuming you didnt download the update

[–]fishsing7713 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This ain't rebalance.... It's a freaking META shifting level right there. and all guns got overall accuracy nerf too, what the hell?

[–]dr_zex 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is just the best troll ever.

[–]Crabjock 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

What makes this such a calamity is that it's just day one of a 10 day "event". Who knows how much of the same (or worse) they have planned down the line. If they plan on backtracking, and making this right (assuming they have the sense to do this), imagine all of the unseen they need to rework.

There's no fixing it though. You don't lead in with something like this and expect the rest to go smoothly. It's like ordering an appetizer, and it being baby possum heads in a bowl. There's no exceitment to be had for the rack of lamb once it hits the table.

That being said, the only reason these things happen, and wil continue to happen is because they can get rid of it if too many people hate it. More than not will stick around. That's the key. Call me a pessimist, but it's why I think we are destined for this as the norm. They keep pushing it, and pushing it. Some get away with it, some don't. Time goes on, more and more get away with it. Then boom, like dlc, it'll feel like it's always been like this.

[–]Dr_EastmanInfamous I 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

God fucking forbid you take a break from this game. I want to come back but look at all the fucking DLC I will need to buy just to keep up. I know the DLC isn't mandatory but goddamn...

[–]Ozzytudor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

what the fuck overkill?

[–]gren_Sonny 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hey, Almir, Overkill, my friends. Do you still remember your interview of this brand new game called Payday 2 and how you never wanted to go for microtransactions?

In a 2013 interview with gamespot Overkill software stated "No. No. God, I hope not. Never. No."

I remember, I backed your game since death wish and all that wonderful content weren't a thing. And I gotta say that this is the biggest middle finger I have ever gotten from a game developer I actually trusted. I know, I know :salt:. But to be honest, now you deserve whatever shit-storm you have stirred up in your community.

I for one, just can't believe you created all this hype around Crimefest and then slapped your d!ck across our faces and proudly shamelessly presented "You know how we already have milked you for low effort DLC-spam, and promised "no microtransactions?" WELL! Dear heisters, we give you microtransactions!"

TL;DR: Fuck it, I'm out. The only real payday here is the heisters of Overkill software.

[–]prrgWeeaboo-san 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You do know Overkill is not in charge of the brand anymore.

Starbreeze took full control.

[–]gren_Sonny 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well that explains everything in that case. Well, rip.

[–]NomNomTrainsInfamous V 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

/u/overkill_almir Hey Almir , Lets do this ;)

[–]Agandeth 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can someone help me understand one thing. I know the skins are pay 2 win but as I was reading the annoucement I noticed the skins also come with mods and its the mods that give the stat boost. Am I correct? So it would be buying weapon mods with money, and for the looks of it, weapon mods that we might not want.

[–]AkaiKuroiCrook 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Correct, but there's also wording that implies extra stats on top of forced mods.

Aside from looking awesome, a skin offers more than cosmetics. Skins can improve the stats of the weapon, perhaps making it more stable or affecting concealment. Some skins come with associated mods, capable of further improving the stats. Finally, a rare Stat Boost modifier might come with the skin, giving you that extra edge.

That said, I haven't tried anything skin related myself yet.

[–]gripgetterHYPE Train -4ポイント-3ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm really the only fucking person that still likes Payday 2, am i?!

[–]Geoffles 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm in your boat. I'm legitimately excited about the weapon rebalance (The M308 finally gets some love!) and have no interest in any of the skins (I think they're ugly as sin).

I also hope that we get a fucking doge mask. That would make my day.

[–]gripgetterHYPE Train 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Return of the meme masks.

[–]StrategiaSE 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I still like the game as the game, and chances are I'll still play it occasionally in the future (unless they manage to fuck even that up, which is actually a possibility considering some of the bullshit rebalancing). It's Overkill that lost its standing in my eyes. They built up a massive amount of goodwill over the Road to Crimefest, and then they just pissed it all away in one fell swoop. Hell, even if this all turns out to be a joke, and all the money people paid is gonna get refunded into their Steam wallets (which is unlikely), they lost so much goodwill that they're never going to recover.

[–]adelante1981 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

Nope, you're not alone. The sky isn't falling, it's just dark as fuck because all of a sudden sunlight costs money.

[–]lewbo93 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

/u/overkill_almir, all you need to do is talk to us. Tell us what's going on. Also, to sort the Shit with microtransactions out, make the drills cost less, remove the stat boosts and allow us to get drills from daily/weekly jobs.

[–]Slayer706 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also, to sort the Shit with microtransactions out, make the drills cost less, remove the stat boosts and allow us to get drills from daily/weekly jobs.

But that would result in less money...

[–]QWE0071TOAST 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

K€€p this up and ov€rkill will $urely hire ¥ou $$$$

[–]badwolf74 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is legitimately a sad experience for me. I dedicated so much time and money to his game between console and PC. Even if things get reverted, I won't be able to bring myself back to this game. Mods are dead and for some there's no recovering them. I've lost all faith in OVK. They can apologize, give refunds, or come out and say it was all an elaborate prank, this game is dead for me. It's shit because this is a legitimately fun game and community.

[–]Piker10 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

im right there with you, i got all the dlc and whatnot, and put loads of hours with friends into the game because its fun, but this is fucked. I just uninstalled it from my PC, don't think ill be playing it anymore.

[–]Bewareofbears 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

If I ever reinstall will I have the things I used to have?

[–]samplebitch 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The files that track your info (level, inventory, essentially everything that is 'you' in the game) are all on your hard drive. I know that when people have a hard drive crash/get a new pc, they start off fresh as if they've never played the game before.I'm not sure if uninstalling the game will wipe them, but you might want to back them up before you do, in case this is all some big joke. (There was a "u mad bro" icon as one of the rewards during the challenge, after all.)

[–]aabicus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I switched computers and I still had all my levels/mods/etc. There's definitely something stored online.

[–]MysteryNarwhal 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was actually not that hurt in terms of crates. The terrible thing that got me salty is that some of the gun skins are for DLC guns, like the Clarion.

[–]TF2Captain 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

They're also kinda ugly.

[–]Geoffles 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the main reason I'm not really buying into the skins circlejerk. I just don't want them. OVKL can throw as many safes at me as they want, I'll stick with my non-retarded guns.

[–]StrategiaSE 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kinda really ugly. Also the "Sad Almir" skin just takes the piss out of the community uproar over the Twitter challenges, which seems so petty and childish.

[–]pweeed 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Overkill just put the opposite of what it pledged to the players; SH*T that'll devalue all the veteran player's much supportive purchases of DLCs. Everything we did in Crimefest for you, and you throw this at our face?

A big SCREW YOU the US justice system people in Overkill.

[–]Sanius -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Now we get all your Schekels!

http://imgur.com/6DwGepQ

[–]DramikenHoxton 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get on after school. 5.3 gigabyte update. "OH YEAH, CRIMEFEST CHALLENGES HAVE BEEN COMPLETED" Takes the whole afternoon to install (~4 hours). I watch the trailer/introductory video. See coloured guns on the ground "Please...god, no OVERKILL, don't do this. It can't be..." To my horror, there is a 'Steam Inventory' tab. I try a quick rush of Jewellery Store, HoxHUD does not work. I get a Safe #2 from the card. I check the Community Market. I go into a corner and cry.

[–]JovialFeline 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Greets from /r/GlobalOffensive. In light of the recent changes, can I double as moderator here, /u/AMV? :D

Kidding, of course. Good luck with the poop storm, mods. I wouldn't consider myself a hardcore PD2 player but I do hang around and I'm interested to see how this plays out.

[–]AMV[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'll cut you a deal - a mod position for a mod position! ;)

I'm not making any judgements until the entirity of Crimefest is over. While I do not like the actual decision made, it'll be a matter of time to see the event to the end and reponses.

That also being said, I don't have any plans to buy anything that I don't need to, and I still have fun with the core game. So while I'm not uninstalling, we'll see how everything plays out.

And thanks for you kind words. <3 Hit me up on Steam sometime. My ID: amvx

[–]Lonesome_LlamaMastermind Enforcer 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

You guys are lying fucks. After I buy almost every DLC and the game at full price you drop this shit on me. The game has gotten worse since the captain winter update.

[–]prati616 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

Wasn't Captain Winter like...the previous update?

[–]Lonesome_LlamaMastermind Enforcer 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

Idk I stopped following for a few of months and come back to some stupid fucking boss and a shitty inventory system, a week later this happens.

[–]DECLXN 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

stupid fucking boss

Winters is decent.

[–]Lonesome_LlamaMastermind Enforcer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes the game seem too much like a grindy P2W MMO. I thought he was just gonna be like a dozer with an impenatrable shield, which although would be shitty, is far better then the what he is now.

[–]prati616 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

3k health shield clone with 6 or more "body guards" seems very lame

[–]DECLXN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Adds a new element to assaults though, provides a genuine problem for players to solve albeit in a grindy way

[–]SuicidalImpulseDallas 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

More since Goldfarb left, really.

[–]dunno123987 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is sad. Here's my 2 cents:

After all those DLCs they're trying to rip us off even more? Drills should be card drops like safes. Skins should not give stats. There's no need for special lobby standing animations when you have a skin equipped, looks childish. Period.

Gun rebalance, more like total fuck up. Why did they mess it up this much? They should've just given some guns some extra damage and/or total ammo and that's it. No need to ruin the whole game. The removal of speed decrease on LMGs is fine though.

The new gun customization menu is terrible, it's annoying to navigate. The old one was fine.

They changed the gun icons ingame as well, they look retarded now, the old ones were A LOT better.

The only good thing I've found in this update is the new weapon butt animation of the Bernetti.

While I'm at it, why do some animations look retarded? Like the sprinting with the Crosskill, just what the fuck is that? That totally killed the gun for me, many guns suffer from this. (I was too lazy to make a reddit acc just to say this back then, but what they've done now is some serious fuck up that could cost them the game.)

BTW it's sad that the game is becoming MemeDay, they're trying to push in a joke into every sentence nowadays.

[–]Zian64 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the actual fuck.

[–]DaftSpeed 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Crimefest? More like Shitfest!

[–]sauron2403 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

great right as i fucking download the game to try it this shit happens

[–]PokeknMastermind 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

The AO is a shitstorm!

[–]Stefen_007 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

My suggestion to make this better: make the crates have the "exclusive overkill rare item" exclusive, but let the weekly job drop a random skin. Like the contracts form Tf2, you get random skins by playing, but you get the top notch stuff by spending money.

And also bring back the none double barrel shotguns back to there old dmg.

[–]AprilChicken 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm sure it won't be hard to get the cosmetic skins using mod_overrides and use some form of lua script to boost stats in order to essentially get the skins for free. I don't usually condone stuff like this but in this case I have no problem with it.

[–]Vladibear 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

mod_overrides and lua is not working anymore. Just for skins not to be unlocked.

[–]AkaiKuroiCrook 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Mod_overrides is working just fine. Lua is to be reenabled post Crimefest.

[–]monkeylizard99 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Citation needed. Not being argumentative, I really hope this isn't speculation because I miss HoxHud.

[–]AkaiKuroiCrook 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was partially wrong. Lua is just broken because Ovk changed engine a lot. As it has been said, modders work on BLT hook already. As for overrides, it still works to my knowledge.

[–]monkeylizard99 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

So what does HoxHUD run on? Will they be able to get that back up?

[–]AkaiKuroiCrook 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

BLT:CSE and maybe some older hook, I'm not sure. My best bet would be to wait till the end of Crimefest. If they fix it before that, there definitely would be an announcement everywhere.

[–]samcuu 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

How is /r/pd2trade a month old?

[–]AMV[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because this was something (steam workshop intergration and trading) that has been mentioned in the past, so one user took the chance to pre-empt and jump on the subreddit.

[–]Kaillys 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have enough faith in this company that they will set things right, but I don't think they'll do it without our prodding.

[–]GoblinFiveFugitive 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hypetrain stalling was quickly fixed by counting in Hotline Miami 2 preorders.

And as another example, Skyrims paid usermade mods was quickly swept under the rug.

[–]MysticalPiplupVeteran 52ポイント53ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was only 17 years old

I loved PAYDAY 2©®™ so much, I had all the DLC and achievements

I pray to Almir and Bo every night before bed, thanking them for the game I've been given

"OVERKILL is love" I say; "OVERKILL is life"

Killing Floor players hear me and call me a faggot

I know they are just jealous of my devotion for OVERKILL and PAYDAY 2©®™

I called them a cunt

They slap me and send me to sign out of Steam©®™

I'm crying now, and my account is logged out

I lay in bed and it's really cold

Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me

It's Almir and Bo

I am so happy

They whisper into my ear "Microtransactions"

They grab me with their powerful greedy hands and put me down onto my hands and knees

I'm ready

I spread my ass-cheeks for Almir and Bo

They penetrate my butt-hole

It hurts so much but I do it for OVERKILL

I can feel my mods breaking as skins and drills litter the market place

I push against their force

I want to please OVERKILL

They roar a mighty roar as they fills my game with microtransactions

The Killing Floor players walk in

OVERKILL looks them straight in the eyes and says "Shame on you!"

Almir and Bo leave through my window

OVERKILL is love. OVERKILL is life.

[–]LongXa 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is worse than the csgo update.. You can't even get free skin, they are all behind a paywall. In csgo skin do nothing, in here you have to pay for skin and they all come with stat boost. That is some P2W right there..

[–]Mafia_of_Oranges 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's ironic actually.

Skins saved CS:GO, and they've killed Payday 2

[–]BoboTheTalkingClownTechnician Enforcer 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ RIOT ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

[–]ChervenkoChains is in a pickle! 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, I don't think League of Legends has anything to do with this.

[–]BoboTheTalkingClownTechnician Enforcer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

ayy lmao

[–]Mnoxis 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

About this crate thing, you can drop crates, but can't drop keys ?

Can you drop the weapon skins ? Or are these skins behind a paywall ?

[–]LiquidBeans 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Also what the fuck did they do to melee weapons? Pretty much all of them do 30 damage now. Why does stabbing someone do the same damage as punching them?