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[–]pumpyourstillskin -7ポイント-6ポイント  (22子コメント)

You're not a conservative. Or even a Republican.

[–]CherryCokeNixon 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's nothing conservative about Donald Trump. His outrageous rhetoric is the liberal fantasy version of how conservatives sound, but that's about it.

[–]pumpyourstillskin -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you'd vote against the guy who says he's a conservative but is actually a moderate, and you would instead support the open Socialist.

[–]flyingburritoman 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

And for the record I'm conservative leaning but proud to not be a republican.

[–]RammingIntoChicks 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Trump isn't a Conservative or a Republican. You might be a Democrat if you support him

[–]pumpyourstillskin 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you would prefer a Socialist over a guy who is pretending to be a conservative but is actually moderate on some issues.

Holy shit. Good thinking.

[–]flyingburritoman 0ポイント1ポイント  (15子コメント)

To be fair Trump is one of the least conservative people running. The only conservative policy he talks about is illegal immigration. And he's a a shitty businessman and self proclaimed genius with a high IQ, think I'll pass on that moron. If he wins the presidency it will destroy the Republican Party probably forever. Although i have said this before and I'll say it again, as much as it pains me I will be completely flabbergasted if we ever manage to elect another republican president in the next 15 years. They've done too much damage to themselves with their social platforms and that's the only thing most people care about or are capable of understanding.

[–]pumpyourstillskin 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

He's a shitty businessman

lmao

Ok, your head is up your ass. I get it. You don't need to go any further.

[–]flyingburritoman -3ポイント-2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Okay we'll just sweep those multiple filings for bankruptcy under the rug then

[–]pumpyourstillskin 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

If making ten billion fucking dollars by knowing bankruptcy law inside and out makes him a shitty businessman, I'd love to meet someone who is actually successful.

[–]MoreGBsPlease 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Donald Trump is not worth $10 billion. Donald Trump says he is worth $10 billion. Forbes gives him a generous estimate at $4 billion, others a bit lower. There have always been discrepancies with what others say and what Trump says he's worth, it's been like that for decades.

He is a very successful businessman who is worth an insane amount - far more than any of us probably ever will be, but he attributes a lot of his wealth to his "brand name" which he values himself.

[–]pumpyourstillskin -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

So you think the couple research analysts who use regular internet resources and SEC financial filings for a few weeks a year investigating Trump have a better grasp on Trump's finances than Trump's entire full-time, top notch accounting department.

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

And he's a a shitty businessman

Tell me about your billions.

[–]flyingburritoman 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Y'all can downvote me all you want but if y'all think he's conservative you're dumber than hell.

[–]Damn_Croissant 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

he's a a shitty businessman

ok

[–]flyingburritoman -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

He inherited money and then made a shit ton on a reality show. That's like Kim Kardashian

[–]Damn_Croissant 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, that's like, oversimplification. He may have made a lot on The Apprentice, but not billions. You don't build a preeminent commercial real estate business, let alone graduate Wharton by luck.

I know what this sounds like, I'm not backing Trump as a politician. I'm backing him saying he is not a "shitty businessman."

[–]Knary50 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. The reality shows were maybe worth a few hundred million in actual cash and promoting his brand like clothing, hotels, casinos, golf courses, etc and. It was a smart choice as it placed him back as a household name like he was in the 80's and early 90's and showed his charitable side.

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

As if he couldn't have lost that money.

[–]Knary50 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He didn't make billions on a reality show. Maybe a few million, but it was about feeding his ego and continuing his brand.
The Trump brand was well know before, but he was able to use the show to promote himself and his new ventures like clothing and perfume from himself, his wife and kids etc. It also helped us to know his sons because before the show Ivanka was the only child everyone was familiar with. Even still that wasn't worth billions maybe a few hundred million.