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[–]Dazzyreil 967ポイント968ポイント  (110子コメント)

Turkey 'downs aircraft on Syria border'

Turkey 'downs drone on Syria border'

Turkey 'downs toy plane on Syria border'

Well, that de-escalated quickly.

[–]Shirinator 173ポイント174ポイント  (58子コメント)

Turkey 'downs toy plane on Syria border'

Plot twist: toy plane with camera and bombs strapped on it.

[–]Anthoron 107ポイント108ポイント  (44子コメント)

maybe they realised 72 virgins weren't quite as good as one slutty broad.

[–]BigClifty [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

When toy planes martyr themselves they receive 72 unopened boxes of Microsoft Flight Simulator X upon teaching Plane Heaven.

[–]alflup [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Man now you're going to make go and install that again and waste away a weekend aren't you?

[–]Shirinator 19ポイント20ポイント  (12子コメント)

can I choose 72 non-virgin kinky ladies?

[–]PancakeZombie [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Don't. They would just be jealous of each other half the time. And the orgies would be filled with passive-agressive commentaries.

[–]Northman9000 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I happen to have a fetish for orgies filled with passive aggressive commentary. Sounds like heaven.

[–]Biotot [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well what a coincidence!

Just bring this backpack into that building over there.

[–]officialbum [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"Well I guess you could suck dick like that, bitch let me show you how it's done."

Actually that conundrum doesn't sound half bad.

[–]Anthoron 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

i have no idea, ask the big guy on the door when you arrive.

[–]dIoIIoIb [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

all the 72 virgins are male dude, didn't you read the note at the end? nobody ever reads that

[–]Vertraggg [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Here's my question about this whole 72 virgins thing - what happens once they aren't virgins anymore? Cause only being able to have sex 72 times for the rest of eternity would suck

[–]Frozen_Esper [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

My question has always been "where do they come from?" Like, if a chick dies a virgin, does she get thrown into the virgin pool? Does Allah just create virgin souls for them to bang in death? What if I got 72 virgins that aren't even attractive?

The entire concept is weird.

[–]muaddeej 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

Once you get to the point of having enough power to carry heavy things like bombs, you are well out of "toy" territory.

[–]D0D 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Turkey 'promises to buy the nerd a new toy plane'

[–]Callahandy 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's like a "Get Smart" routine.

[–]Billysgruffgoat 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would you believe...a crumpled up receipt from Kmart?

[–]firebathero 23ポイント24ポイント  (12子コメント)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlan-10 same drone as one shot down in ukraine in 2014

[–]Lurker-kun [スコア非表示]  (9子コメント)

Orlan-10 and the one shot down in ukraine in 2014 Compare the tails. The propellers and noses are different too: Orlan-10, unknown UAV.
That thing is not Orlan-10.

[–]SteveJEO [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Yeah. It turned out the one brought down in Ukraine had German components too so everyone figured it was probably some kind of custom solo build.

[–]iRunPreMix [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

One look at the parts and I can tell that shit is hobby grade. Maybe "higher-quality" hobby grade. For sure.

[–]mahaanus 14ポイント15ポイント  (6子コメント)

For which I am very, very, very happy. First though I had when I saw that title was "Please don't be a Russian plane, please don't be a Russian plane..."

[–]neuroSplicer 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

That would have been BAD. Not because it couldn't be solved diplomatically but because it adds tension at a time that is basically the worst in decades.

[–]phoxymoron [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

"lets all agree it was a toy and move on."

[–]holocauster-ride 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Look at this tweet and tell me if you can see any similarities between this drone and Russian ones.

https://twitter.com/ReggaeMortis1/status/654990273521520640

Here's a VICE news article about the drone shot down in Ukraine.

https://news.vice.com/article/untitled-post-1401465662

[–]mahaanus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Probably true, but there's no way in hell Russia is admitting that, they'll just pretend it didn't happen.

[–]pastis51 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

It just shows that turkeys have grown too big. Bring back natural turkeys.

[–]aykcak [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You have to see the local government oriented coverage. It sounds as if we downed an entire Russian squad, preventing a surprise invasion.

[–]Omegastar19 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

WTF, the OP's title is extremely misleading.

[–]jziegle1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Turkey.

Turkey sandwich.

Roasted turkey sandwich.

Mmmmmm.

That got delicious quickly.

[–]ShadowRam [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was gonna say, it's probably just someone's DJI Phantom,

(RC Multicopter)

[–]OldMcFart [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

"Nice passanger airliner you've got there Turkey. Going to fly close to Syria, you say? Would be a shame if something happened to it, what with all the rebels having BUK surface to air missiles these days."

[–]Reddisaurusrekts [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

At this rate, someone should just buy a couple of dozen RC planes and go kick off WWIII in earnest, instead of all this pussyfooting around it.

[–]gimanswirve [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Sounds like they need to remake 99 Luftballons.

I don't know German, but how about 99 Drohnen?

[–]Yosarian2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The key point is that they shot down an aircraft before they kew what it was. It's a very clear warning to Russia and Assad to stay out of their airspace.

[–]dr_rentschler [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

First thing i heard was "turkish plane downed on Syria border".

[–]XXLpeanuts [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

How exactly does one warn a "drone" before firing?

[–]mAsukaaa 194ポイント195ポイント  (52子コメント)

Reuters are reporting that it was a drone.

[–]hlycia 54ポイント55ポイント  (12子コメント)

This article is now reporting it as a drone.

[–]feyrband 94ポイント95ポイント  (10子コメント)

And a "small non-military model plane" at that.

[–]sgnmarcus 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

With a war plane? Talk about using a cannon to swat a fly...

[–]InadequateUsername 11ポイント12ポイント  (5子コメント)

Paper air plane.

[–]notfromkentohio [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Old wind-blown receipt.

[–]Elon_Musk_is_God [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Figment of their imagination.

[–]CarLucSteeve [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm always wondering why we never re-esclate these comment chains. Like 5 or 6 comment further would be like Atomic stealth bomber.

[–]Nowin[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Top comment is now reporting it as a drone.

[–]Maanx 24ポイント25ポイント  (31子コメント)

From the BBC article "Images of the downed drone appear to show a small non-military model plane, Turkish media say."

[–]LtRapman 31ポイント32ポイント  (30子コメント)

Here is a good picture of the "non-military" model plane.

[–]Maanx 12ポイント13ポイント  (15子コメント)

Pretty impressive they could pick up something that small. Not much damage though, considering it was "shot down" by fighter jets.

[–]dolmakalem 10ポイント11ポイント  (12子コメント)

Missiles explodes near the target.

[–]lil_hulkster 8ポイント9ポイント  (10子コメント)

Plus I'm confident that due to the expense of modern military equipment and in fact the cost of implementing the procedures required to launch a missile, the Turkish government did not unleash there most potent armaments on the drone.

Again, plus the fact it was a small drone, far removed from a highly manoeuvrable fighter, likely means they were able to scale back the equipment used. Its unlikely cutting edge guidance systems would have been employed for instance...

[–]InadequateUsername 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably shot it from the plane window with a pistol.

[–]organicjavelin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

While smoking a cigarette, drinking tea, talking on the phone, and honking the horn that İ am sure is in every Turkish jet. Bonus points for dancing Horon.

[–]RobotApocalypse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Hell, at that point you're better of with a Cessna combat caravan over any other warplane.

[–]wheelyjoe 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're way more likely to use radar tracking on a tiny object that's going to be particularly hard to see.

The radar will literally draw a box around it on the hud, it's the perfect situation to use radar.

[–]dolmakalem [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

I'm not sure, i mean you don't know what it is before shooting it, so probably we wasted at least $100k with AIM 9 or AIM 120.

[–]lil_hulkster [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I'm of the opinion that they likely new it was a small unarmed drone. You'd be surprised how adept we, and indeed other nations such as Turkey, are at identifying threats.

Whether they believed it to be fitted with sensory equipment such as a camera or otherwise, that's not clear.

[–]dolmakalem [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

If it doesn't give you any info about itself, you don't know what it is. You only know something is flying. You can't tell the size of it either. I mean F-22 has a pretty small signature, maybe smaller than this drone.

Important thing is, it would've been a big, manned, Russian aircraft. That would be bad.

[–]lil_hulkster [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Not looking to get into a detailed argument however I feel that flight path and velocities would have been monitored, which would probably have eliminated a lot of potential candidates. Plus at the altitudes the thing was flying at if there had been a Russian bomber there would have been sightings etc. For all we know they identified the thing through some eye-witness reports anyhow.

 

I do appreciate your opinion and points. I admit there a possibility, however I'm speculating that they weren't the case & providing details of my logic... :)

 

and yes, I'm very relieved of the outcome. Especially after those reports early last week of the Turks downing a Russian aircraft.

[–]neuroSplicer 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

As similarly seen in the recent animation about the BUK hitting MH17.

[–]JohnnyMnemo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who ever was flying this may been testing the response time and intensity of turkey.

[–]MightyH20 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

Here is also a good picture of a model plane.

[–]Drewlicious 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here is also a good picture of the very model of a modern major general.

[–]SimyK 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Add some turrets and it would look like something from Iron Sky

[–]AintGotNaLegsLtDAN [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Looks kinda like a Puma. I'd probably misidentify it too if I got it in a pair of binoculars.

[–]a_ninja_mouse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Non "military-model" plane is what I think they meant.

[–]kastamonu34 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wareplanes? Didn't know the full moon was out.

[–]PubicWildlife 299ポイント300ポイント  (5子コメント)

Meanwhile Ahmed is still waiting on his delivery of FIFA 16 via Amazon Prime Air....

[–]berx- 71ポイント72ポイント  (19子コメント)

[–]zetarn 46ポイント47ポイント  (7子コメント)

Look like a Russian's drone. See a lot of this thing on Ukraine Front field by DPR many month ago.

[–]Metal_LinksV2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It looks similar enough that it could be a revision. Heres a video of its launch, tear down and truck;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYh3wfU8TOc

What is the range on these things? Could of it been flown out of Latakia by Russian forces? Or if it was out of range of the Airbase, was it being operated by Russian GRU or Syrian forces?

[–]almoorn 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

[–]Kandierter_Holzapfel 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

No, the Orlan has a circular crossection

http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/massive-russian-military-movement.58902/page-186

Note that the drone from the ukraine seem to be the same type from the form of the fuselage

[–]MatsZuccarello [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Looks similar, but the propeller isnt in the same place either

[–]Kandierter_Holzapfel [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Huh? Both the one from the Ukraine and the one from Turkey have the propeller under the opening, while the orlan 10 has it over it.

[–]MatsZuccarello [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I'm trying to say that the drone on pictures in this thread looks similar, but isn't the orlan 10, might have come off as confusing though...

[–]theblackimpala 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

It looks like it was purchased from Toyz R US.

[–]almoorn 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

[–]RiP___ 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

https://twitter.com/airlivenet/status/654984632048447488

it looks very similar but the propeller nose on the one you linked is placed at the top and a bit smaller, while the shot down one has the propeller nose on the bottom.

Also look at the overall shape, the orlan has a smoother shape than the one that was shot down

[–]FernwehHermit [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

How did they down it? It isn't riddled with bullet holes or blown apart as if it hit by a missile.

[–]EPATII 42ポイント43ポイント  (6子コメント)

Haha guys its just a toy because it's small :DD

I don't know how you people can stay that ignorant, even you are using internet better than an average person.

Size doesn't matter when its a drone.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4674548,00.html

[–]i_just_want_downvote 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, it's not the size it is the motion of the propulsion.

[–]Slayers_Boners [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Except that size does matter since it can carry a bigger payload. And you could easily rig a toy with explosive so that doesn't rule anything out either.

[–]EPATII [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

My point was, a drone being small doesn't mean it's not dangerous or its something unimportant. 6kgs of payload is more than enough to create a shitstorm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYKmVEWzkxo

[–]areels 22ポイント23ポイント  (31子コメント)

[–]Baralt1830 16ポイント17ポイント  (30子コメント)

What are they confirming? I can't read

[–]EPATII 36ポイント37ポイント  (27子コメント)

Shortly: An unidentified aircraft was violating our airspace, we warned it 3 times, it didn't change it's movement so we shot since it was violating our rules of engagement.

[–]tilman2015 31ポイント32ポイント  (18子コメント)

How do you warn a drone?

Even more so, how do you warn a drone 3 times?!

[–]Ashihna 25ポイント26ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm not a military expert, but maybe they didn't know it was a drone when they had detected it on the radar, warned the aircraft, the aircraft didn't/couldn't respond (because it's a drone), and so the Turkish Military decided to shoot it down.

I don't know if you can detect on a radar what kind of an aircraft it is.

[–]ur1336 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Hold your fire. There are no life forms. It must have been short- circuited.

[–]andrewdok 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

You can get an estimated size, unless it's using stealth technology (which is designed to make it look smaller) and can determine it's speed by observing how far it moves between pings, those things help determine the type of aircraft.

[–]Bickson 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

You can also get speed by doppler shift of the reflected signal.

If the radar is rather advanced and has an array of receivers and if the motion of the aircraft is going across the field of view then you can even reconstruct the shape of the aircraft.

[–]Snokus 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thats a lot of ifs

[–]dukck [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

We don't have the doppler thingy. We spent all the money on tear gas.

[–]timelyparadox 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well the drone just relays the radio messages to wherever it is controlled from. That is if it's a military drone.

[–]tilman2015 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

So the drone has standard ATC radio on board - frequency controllable from wherever the drone is being controlled from so they can talk to ATC / monitor guard as appropriate?

It would then surely need to somehow relay that information up to the control satellite, and then over to the pilot - and the reverse to speak back.

Pretty cool but complicated stuff.

I wonder if it also has a much wider frequency range for eavesdropping on battlefield comms?

[–]Scout1Treia [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You send out a broadcast on common frequencies and if it doesn't hear, well fuck it.

[–]baowahrangers [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Many combat drones have radios that allow you to communicate with the operator. It's standard ROE most likely to warn the unidentified aircraft three times, so they're going to do that anyways no matter if the other plane can respond or not.

[–]skratch [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The guy says he can't read and you just write out more words? How insensitive!

[–]Enverex [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Not sure you're replying, he said he can't read!

[–]shiivan 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

How do you warn a drone?

[–]flurreeh 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Drones have the same radio equipment as usual miltary planes, so you can communicate with the controllers just like you would with normal pilots. However, this was a toy drone. They can't do that.

[–]JTsyo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

it was violating our rules of engagement.

I would think it's more like "it was within our rules of engagement".

[–]JayhawkRacer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you can't read, how will you read our responses explaining it to you?

[–]Freudian_Victim 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

It appears to be a modified Russian Orlan 10 UAV. This is a similar model that crashed in Ukraine last year.

Link to the article about the drone in Ukraine.

[–]dolmakalem 18ポイント19ポイント  (10子コメント)

[–]SteveJEO 8ポイント9ポイント  (7子コメント)

There's a thing.

How the balls are you supposed to 'warn' a drone?

Wave at it?

[–]bjorngylling 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

When they first reported it was a drone I figured it was a military drone. Those things most likely have radio just like any other aircraft and would be able to respond to calls.

If it was that small "toy" in the picture I don't know how they even saw it on radar or how they shot it down. It doesn't even looks smashed up?

[–]SteveJEO 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seen from the ground and reported maybe?

From that pic it looks just about big enough for a gopro.

[–]nickfury27 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Miniature UAV's are a thing.

[–]bjorngylling [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

True! And on the close up pictures it sure looks like something military. It didn't look like much to me on the first picture where it was tiny and obscured by people!

[–]DetlefKroeze 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just for your information: Drones have radios to talk with ATC. Hence they can be contacted/warned on standard U/VHF emergency frequencies.

https://twitter.com/TheAviationist/status/654974096619536384

[–]ajac09 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Another dead drone. Skynet you will never win!

[–]Aedeus 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Even if it is just a drone, Turkey isn't fucking around with it's airspace it seems.

[–]Dracomarine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Can you blame them? there is an active warzone just across their borders with 2 superpower involved and one of the nastiest terrorist groups we've seen in the last 30 years. They cant afford to be lax on security.

[–]rollthedice92 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They've previously shot down Syrian aircraft

[–]Pacman1500 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Turkey is letting people know not to fuck with their airspace by shooting it down even if it's only a toy.

[–]NSA_ActiveMonitor [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Putin laughs and sends more. Turkey burns through its military budget chasing the toy planes.

[–]werdlyfe [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The article states it was a NON-MILITARY UNMANNED DRONE! The post title is very misleading.

My best guess is that this was planned exercise by Turkey, or NATO to serve as a warning to Russia in response to recent activities in Turkish airspace.

This is clearly, and simply a line in the sand.

[–]murphys_inlaw [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Completely misleading and blatant propaganda makes it to the front page and the mods here do not so much as lift a finger to correct it.

[–]TypicalCricket [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Did it get sucked into the turbine? How did it manage to get up that high?

[–]TheHouseofOne 3ポイント4ポイント  (10子コメント)

The Syrian government is known to be operating drones

Who the fuck gave Syria drones?

[–]CondorAvenue 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

and why was it that far north? Are they attacking the Kurds now too? (if it was in fact Syria's)

[–]Reihanne [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why would Syria attack enemies of their enemies? Moreover, a drone this small cannot carry any bombs or anything. I guess technically it could fly with an AK taped onto its hull and try to shoot with an exquisite actuation device.

A simple recon drone just powerful enough to carry a camera.

[–]nickfury27 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Iran

[–]slojourner [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That was my first thought. It could also be Iranian right? How do we know it is Russian?

[–]SteveJEO [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

We don't.

It appears to be the same model that turned up in ukraine a while back but whilst everyone was running around screaming about evil russia it turned out the downed drone was made with german components.

[–]rock_callahan [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You do realize drones aren't a big thing anymore, right?

The very fact you can watch people play with these on the streets should be a great indication that drones aren't a big deal. If Syria can buy modern military aircraft from Russia (and it does) then why are you surprised it has drones too?

[–]Donello 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

So basically the Russians or someone else is checking how committed the Turks are to their recently announced combat Rules.

[–]Eispeis 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

as do the US-led coalition against Islamic State and Russia.

That's an unfortunate sentence structure you have there.

[–]saosinfangirl 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hmm "shot down". No 20mm impact and burnt traces.

I guess Turkish patrol found it in special mushroom hunting operation.

[–]Toromak [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

More likely a missle detonated close to it. Direct hits are rarely used to shoot down small aircraft at range.

[–]Xbitz 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Russia says all it drones are accounted for.

[–]cjpellicci [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Not saying that this is the case, but Russia would likely say this even if it was their drone...

[–]Jack-Jewell [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Maybe they sold some? I don't know personally but it does seem like a bit of a cover up.

[–]cjpellicci [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In the pictures the drone appears to be similar to an Orlan-10. Possibly a newer version. The Orlan-10 was developed for the Russian Government. It could very well be Russian, Iranian, or Syrian.

[–]ANGLVD3TH [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That must have been one determined bird.

[–]gentlyfailing [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At first I read the title to mean that a Turkey was flying through the air and maybe got stuck in the engine, somehow bringing the plane down.

Edit by ninja, looks like I'm not the first

[–]mosespeach [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And it's not even Thanksgiving, yet!

[–]zjaws88 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Am I the only one that thought that a Turkey took down the plane... you know.. like the bird...

[–]mintysoul [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why are they allowed to violate Syria's border?

[–]PropsNPowder [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

At first I thought this was about a bird strike and had no idea there were turkeys in Syria.

[–]welsman13 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Laughingly clicked this link to read how a turkey took out a fighter jet. Now I feel dumb.

[–]BigSmashy [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Took me a moment to realize they were talking about the country Turkey and not the bird Turkey.

[–]Mr2hands [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Ahem. I just spent a good 30 seconds laughing at the event of a turkey, as in a chicken turkey, taking down an aircraft. I don't know how I feel right now.

[–]max1mise [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bird strike can be a big issue for aircraft. I didn't think a Turkey could really fly very high though??