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[–]animuseternalpure land/thiền 34ポイント35ポイント  (23子コメント)

I mean, spanking it all day isn't gonna be good for anyone, but most schools don't think there's anything inherently wrong with masturbation. It doesn't qualify as 'sexual misconduct' in most interpretations, so it's not 'sinful' like in Christianity.

But I'm reticent to say it's 'okay.' Anything can become addictive and a distraction from reality as it is. Masturbation certainly isn't going to help anything. But, for the most part, don't sweat it.

[–]bigndfan175 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Maybe some Christian religions shame and declare it sinful but applying that belief to all of Christianity is an incorrect generalization my friend

[–]throwaway92715 14ポイント15ポイント  (14子コメント)

Doesn't help with anything? It's healthy! Makes your organs function better and helps regulate testosterone.

[–]8arrows 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Helps prevent pregnancy and laundry!

[–]nowoclock 7ポイント8ポイント  (11子コメント)

It makes people addicted to quick dopamine releases. People overdo it and become sad due their brain being dopamine depleted. Our brains are wired to be rewarded by having real sexual experiences. Not watching strangers do it on a screen of pixels.

[–]Vellon221 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

>implying people didn't masturbate before porn

Have you ever been to the zoo to see the monkeys?

[–]m1s4nthr0p3 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is different. I suggest you watching the series of "Your Brain on Porn".

[–]nowoclock 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah they look depressed lol

[–]greldek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because clearly either you masturbate to excess every day, surrounded by porn; or not at all. There could be no middle ground.

[–]Agnostix 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It makes people addicted to quick dopamine releases.

Can we see a source for this?

[–]musclerunner -1ポイント0ポイント  (5子コメント)

You know how brains are wired? So much that you can tell someone else how their brain works. Gosh, do tell more. :|

[–]nowoclock 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

The Cambridge University neuropsychiatrist Dr Valerie Voon has recently shown that men who describe themselves as addicted to porn (and who lost relationships because of it) develop changes in the same brain area – the reward centre – that changes in drug addicts. The study, not yet published, is featured next week in the Channel 4 TV show Porn on the Brain. Neurosceptics may argue that pictures of the brain lighting up in addicts tell us nothing new – we already know they are addicted. But they do help: knowing the reward centre is changed explains some porn paradoxes. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/26/brain-scans-porn-addicts-sexual-tastes Joseph J. Plaud, a private, clinical forensic psychologist in Boston, Massachusetts, who has studied the effects of pornography.

When people look at sexual imagery, dopamine floods these brain regions, causing an intense feeling of pleasure. Over time, people come to associate those direct images (called reinforcers) with the pleasurable feelings. Anything associated with those images, including Playboy's trademark bunny image, could also prime people to seek out that positive rush. [6 (Other) Great Things Sex Can Do for You]

However, if that pleasure response gets triggered over and over — with frequent doses of Playboy or other sexually charged imagery — a person will need bigger hits to feel a response, Plaud said. "The more you do and the greater degree of access, the more explicit [it is], you seem to need more and more," Plaud told Live Science. http://livescience.com/52469-how-porn-affects-brains.html

[–]musclerunner 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is about addiction, not masturbation. Are you aware of the difference?

[–]nowoclock 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah I'm aware, thanks. I used to watch porn and masturabate everyday from my early teens to early 20's. A few profound trips on dmt and ayahuasca made me change my ways and I feel better that I don't indulge in it anymore.

[–]mrcos24 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very interesting. Could you please explain what your trips revealed to you that compelled you to stop? I am very curious, because you aren't the only person who has said that their psychedelic trips caused them to reevaluate their sex practices.

[–]veksoneMahayana? Theravada? I can haz both!? -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Apparently not

[–]sourc3original 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Makes your organs function better

lol no

[–]fucking_fucking 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anything is "allowed," what is important is whether pleasuring yourself hinders your progress. In this way i don't see it as any different than eating your favorite food every day. So tangos is for you to observe.

Anecdotal: I found the urge disappear at some point. Perhaps it's based on other factors in my life but it literally feels like a chore these days. I don't know whether this is a thing, but I guess it's possible that any attachment will naturally decline as you progress along the path.

if nothing else, perhaps look into using masturbation as a practice of mindfulness!

[–]Vellon221 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just wanted to chime in enforcing your first point. Buddhism is a path to walk, not a set of stringent rules. If you have not comitted to becoming a Monk, it is really up to you to decide how to live your life. Buddhism's "Rules" are honestly a set of common sense simple steps to take to improve your life.

Don't abuse other people. Don't abuse yourself. That sums it up. Is your masturbation a problem in your life OP? It's nothing to feel guilty for, there is nothing to feel guilty for. If you feel it is a problem, experiment with abstaining from it. It isn't much different than eating a pizza, drinking a six pack or spending a day playing video games. Only you can decide if those things are how you want to spend your time.

[–]jerk-o 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you "can't live without it" then it's probably a good idea to stop, or at least take a break for a week or two.

[–]dicetrain 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

In Buddhism you choose to take refuge in the dharma. It is an intention, a willful act, not a contract. If you don't follow the dharma completely, no one is coming after you. You just do what you do and bear the effects on yourself and gain wisdom or not and it is your choice and business. If you are following the dharma completely, or at least committed to trying that, you should be a monk if you aren't already. Monastic life does include enforced vows since they are to be an example of the way to everyone else. There is no God watching and making threats about his divine laws. Virtue is virtue.

[–]abhayakaramadhyamaka 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, you don't have to be a monk to follow the Dharma. This kind of attitude leads to people giving back their vows, which is a defeat. Better to take vows only when you are sure it's right for you, not because some guy on the Internet, or even some charismatic Lama, told you it was the best way.

[–]arktourossoto 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

It depends on where you are in your practice. Sexual desire is definitely something that is a strong emotion to overcome. But unless you know that it's something you're consciously working on, I don't think anyone really minds. A problem could arise with porn, but that's a different issue.

[–]visarga 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sexual desire is definitely something that is a strong emotion to overcome.

In tantric Buddhism it is a strong emotion to harness and redirect (sublimate, transmute).

[–]Obifourkenobi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Would love to read a bit more about that. Any reading suggestions?

[–]Rks1157pragmatic dharma 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's fine until it isn't fine.

[–]AlertTheMedia 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

What's the sound of one hand fapping?

[–]whereami47mahayana 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Monks are not allowed.

[–]only_a_name 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

What type of Buddhism are we talking? Some have more rules than others, especially for monks/nuns but possibly also for laypeople. I don't think anything is allowed or not allowed in any categorical way in Zen, for example.

[–]Logical_Seeker 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Desire is the cause of suffering. Trying to quit myself.

[–]rubyrtnot there yet 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trying to quit myself.

That is an interesting way to describe the Buddhist program. :-)

[–]Pongpianskulfree 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why do you ask? Are you shopping for a new belief system but don't want to accidently join a religion which forbids a favorite hobby?

[–]grantuman[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Um no I'm actually an atheist and would like to learn more about religions that aren't Christianity or Islam.

[–]RagaTanhathai forest 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. But there's a rule against it if you're a monk.

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[–]veksoneMahayana? Theravada? I can haz both!? -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everything is allowed in Buddhism because nothing is allowed in Buddhism...