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Famous Berkeley Astronomer Violated Sexual Harassment Policies Over Many Years, University Investigation Finds (buzzfeed.com)

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[–]CapWasRight 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hi guys! I'm not at Berkeley but I am in the astronomy community. We've been circulating this document and I think that anyone involved with your institution should probably feel free to participate even in you're not explicitly involved in astronomy. You can express your support for the victims -- and your distaste for how horribly Berkeley is handling the whole situation -- by signing your name here.

[–]heavymetaljew 43ポイント44ポイント  (5子コメント)

Pretty much nobody in Berkeley's astronomy department is surprised by this.

Also, from his apology letter:

Through hard work, I have changed in major ways for the better.

How the fuck is it hard to not sexually harass people?

[–]CapnCheezburgerButt Touching '18 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

It sounds like he means that he's trying to change his impulses, which is, without question, a difficult thing to do.

[–]fhinewine[S] 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

If your "impulse" is to grab someone's crotch in public without their consent, then you've got bigger issues to deal with. This isn't like "oh I have the impulse to pull my hair out when I get nervous" or "I have the impulse to check my phone all the time." It's violating people, on the regular, and getting away with it even when you've been told to check yourself.

I have no sympathy whatsoever for sexual harassers, even if it is something they've gotten away with their whole lives. It's a very fine line between harassment and more violent/overt forms of abuse.

[–]CapnCheezburgerButt Touching '18 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nothing you just said means that it isn't an impulse, nor that it's not difficult to change.

EDIT: what I was trying to do was interpret his statement. I'm not apologizing for him.

[–]fhinewine[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh no worries, I can tell you're not trying to apologize for him, haha. And I agree that impulses are often so innate that they're damn near impossible to change -- but this isn't an "impulse" that I have any sympathy for. People aren't born wanting to take sexual advantage of those they have power over. It's something you actively learn and practice ... and it makes you an asshole.

[–]Commentariot 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seems like people are born that way.

[–]chechcal 59ポイント60ポイント  (9子コメント)

Was worried at first that it was Filippenko

[–]fhinewine[S] 24ポイント25ポイント  (6子コメント)

Right?! I opened this up and was like "please not my freshman year professor, not him, he seemed so nice ... oh thank god"

[–]ARayofLightUrsa Major: History '14 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

As someone who had Marcy as a freshman in C10- he seemed really nice and hippy-like in comparison to our other professor, Militzer, who had the German rocket-scientist stereotype going for him.

[–]ucbEntilZha 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Militzer is a pretty cool guy, had him for an upper div class on simulations. He does have the german "stereotype" for what its worth though

[–]caug37 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

trust me he's not the nicest

[–]wilshere105 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Were you in his research lab? Curious why you would say that, seemed nice enough when i took his class a couple semesters back

[–]caug37 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

nay but have some friends who are who say so

[–]password1966 43ポイント44ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fillippenko has better, cooler things to do than mess about with things like uranus.

[–]LordCiderಠ_ಠ in asshole mode ಠ_ಠ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

First thought when i saw the thing on Twitter too

[–]Sluisifer 29ポイント30ポイント  (1子コメント)

It is difficult to express how painful it is for me to realize that I was a source of distress for any of my women colleagues, however unintentional.

What a bad non-apology. Poor guy, it's painful for him that he was causing all this hurt. Oh, and just remember that it was totally unintentional, I'm just as much a victim here as anyone.

Jesus christ, didn't he have anyone look it over before sending it?

According to her account to Berkeley’s Office for the Prevention of Harassment and Discrimination, she was at a post-colloquium dinner with her graduate department at the University of Hawaii when Marcy placed his hand on her leg, slid his hand up her thigh, and grabbed her crotch.

Sigh, it's always at dept. events when that shit happens.

Women discouraged other women from working with him as a research advisor

This is depressingly common. Basically every medium-large department has that guy you warn new grads about. At least at this point it's more and more common that they're emeritus.

[–]heavymetaljew 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus christ, didn't he have anyone look it over before sending it?

It's hosted on the astro web servers, so there's no review needed for him to put it there. For someone who claims to have "worked hard to change he ways," that "apology" shows that he's pretty oblivious to why he's clearly in the wrong...

[–]CapnCheezburgerButt Touching '18 35ポイント36ポイント  (6子コメント)

You know, for once, I have to hand it to Buzzfeed for writing an actual substantiative article.

[–]reaiy𝗘𝗘𝗖𝗦 𝕸𝖆𝖘𝖙𝖊𝖗 𝕽𝖆𝖈𝖊 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

Buzzfeed hired a bunch of new journalists the past summer. They're doing a large internal rebrand. You'll see a lot more content like this in the months to come.

[–]fhinewine[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, word. People give Buzzfeed a lot of shit for the listicle clickbait part of it, but they've been doing some pretty solid and sound reporting the past year or so. Their current events/politics section has a lot of long-form, well-researched thinkpieces sometimes!

[–]nametheoccupationsmoke eecs every day 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

The clickbait is what gives them money to actually hire reporters and do good journalism.

[–]iloveneoliberalism 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

They have plenty of good articles. I especially enjoyed the one about MRA Paul Elam.

[–]LordCiderಠ_ಠ in asshole mode ಠ_ಠ 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Honestly, if I had to choose between buzzfeed and gawker, I'd pick buzzfeed any day

[–]nathan12343 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you check now, you'll notice that they changed the headline to be more clickbaity. And bonus: now it implies it's the victim's fault.

[–]mohishunder 32ポイント33ポイント  (9子コメント)

As a Cal grad, I'm disappointed that he still has a job at Berkeley. What message does this send to aspiring women scientists?

[–]so-cal_kid 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's truly gross what the university's "punishment" is. It's a total joke. At the very least this dude should be suspended if not fired outright. The comment above me may have been meant as a joke, but Cosby received the same protection because of the money he generated and networks wanting to protect him. This dude is probably receiving the same thanks to his academic work.

[–]password1966 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

'Stars' - whether they be in entertainment or academia - always seem to get off lightly.

[–]Sluisifer 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

In my dept we had a well known harasser (and mild to moderate racist - the term mongoloid was spoken) who only recently retired. It's just too much of a pain in the ass for anyone to do anything about it. It's not right, but there it is.

He was married to various women that were in his lab. He always somehow had an entourage of young asian undergrads. There were pretty concrete examples of unsavory behavior, and I'm sure plenty that I never heard about.

We just let incoming grads know what was up. He was never left alone at events, and did get banned from them after a while.

TL;DR: tenure and lack of will.

[–]Malshandir 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was married to various women that were in his lab.

BYU?

[–]iloveneoliberalism 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

What department?

[–]Sluisifer 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'd be happy to say, but not from this account.

[–]busylilbear 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Unfortunately this isn't the first time Cal has been really shitty re: allegations of sexual harassment/rape.

[–]angrymathbear 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Meanwhile Professor Coward is getting fired...

[–]Chigginators 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it's a good call to let him go if he's acted this horribly, but it also makes me a bit sad. I don't think I had a professor who was more enthusiastic about the subject material in an intro and general class. Why did he have to fuck up that happy memory? Damn.

[–]password1966 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmm. Pretty sure that UC's sexual harassment policy would have already clued him in a while ago as to "clear expectations concerning (his future) interactions with students,”.

But hey, what more could the administration have done to him other than tell him he's been a bad boy and ask him not to do it again? That's equivalent to crucifixion at the university admin level.

[–]password1966 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

The Bill Cosby of Astronomy?

[–]Krayde 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

quasars not quaaludes?

[–]Krayde 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

tl;dr: He did more than drop lines about wanting to 'observe your celestial body' and 'taking a look at Uranus'.

[–]Alkibiades415 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

  1. harassment isn't funny, mister
  2. that comment was really fucking funny
  3. un-conflicted upvote

[–]JackDragon 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sadly, Marcy was one of the best lecturers I've had a class under during my 4 years at Cal. His lectures were never boring, he had terrific charisma, and he was funny and interactive.

Disappointing to see someone that lectured so well and was so prominent in his field do this.

[–]nathan12343 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This blog post, written by one of Marcy's former grad students (now a member of the Harvard Astronomy faculty) might give you some insight about what's going on here.

http://mahalonottrash.blogspot.com/2015/10/the-long-con.html