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Uncomfirmed transaction - 3 days and counting..... What could I do ? (self.Bitcoin)

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here's the hash.... e57f728649dc8641fdd318cc8f7b7bb7bd624c97564db7bbf13311990237bad2 I could find it on blockr, but it's not even displayed on blockchain.org... I'm not the sender, I'm waiting for it.... Thanks for helping

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[–]ArmedMilitia 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Heads up:

It's generally best practice to wait for a confirmation on a transaction that big before completing your transaction--especially because the fee is so low. I know, I know, hindsight is 20/20.

People who tell others its safe to accept zero-conf transactions are silly.

The best you can do now is contact the sender and ask them to resend with a higher fee. If they refuse, you are screwed. :(

[–]dellintelbitcoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Its safest in brick and mortar store, not so much in an internet store

[–]killerstorm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

In which way is it safe in brick and mortar store?

It is pointless in an internet store (as it's not a problem to wait for a confirmation), but it doesn't make brick & mortar stores safe.

[–]BobAlison 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

It looks like there could be some double spends against this one. For example:

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/e57f728649dc8641fdd318cc8f7b7bb7bd624c97564db7bbf13311990237bad2

https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/23da154fa16ae6e1d833568dbfedef700e992b687f81e29ee42593eab7914c31

[–]In4Coins[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

So this basically means they spent some of those coins already...so the coins they sent me went back to their wallet right ?

[–]coin_trader_LBC 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hello OP.

The transaction you are originally inquiring about will never be included in a block. The reason for this is entirely because of what /u/BobAlison said above. The pieces of your transaction that create its spendable coinage were already confirmed in other transactions. To be exact, 6 other transactions were created and confirmed using the same inputs as your transaction.

"The coins they sent me" is a bit of a misnomer, as no coins were ever sent to you - the same coins were used in other transactions. Coins can never be copy/pasted they can only be moved, so your transaction became invalid the moment one of those inputs got confirmed in a block before this one in question.

If you know the sender, you can ask them to investigate and re-send the same amount you were expecting. If they are honest and competent it will not be an issue; the blockchain does not ever lie.

If they are not......... then you are out of luck unfortunately

[–]In4Coins[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks a lot for clarifying ! it all makes a lot of sense now, hopefully sender will understand aswell....

[–]muyuu 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/e57f728649dc8641fdd318cc8f7b7bb7bd624c97564db7bbf13311990237bad2

Your fee is 0.00022966 BTC for 4.12526149 BTC in inputs and 1,995 bytes in tx size. That's 11.5 satoshis per byte, which should be just about enough but it's very low.

You can create a tx with the same inputs but sending a little less change and more fee instead. It will likely be included right away and this one will be discarded as a double spend.

[–]In4Coins[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hey thanks, looks like the solution ; I'm not the sender but I contacted him quoting your post, so hopefully he'll be able to create that new tx...

[–]Demotruk 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sorry, I think this is potentially a difficult situation. I assume that the transaction had quite a low fee relative to size in bytes, since I can't find it in a block explorer (says it has already been dropped), can you say if that's true?

Do you think you could get the sender to resend with a larger fee? The sender may need to ensure he uses the same coins though, to avoid this transaction somehow confirming again in the future.

[–]In4Coins[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hope I'll get sender to resend indeed, but so far they (it's a company) said they've send it already.... So now I'm left wondering at wich point will those coins be returned to their wallet ? Or maybe have that Tx be rebroadcasted would do the job ?

[–]kingscrown69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This coins never lft their wallet

[–]Zyklon87 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can't find that tx with that hash, has been droped from mempool ?

Searched on these blockexplorers: chain.so, smartbit.com.au, blockchain.info, blockexplorer.com

[–]dellintelbitcoin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

What wallet was used? Maybe it has an error... Im sure the balance is available to spend again