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“Palestinian Child Rammed by settler's car Bleeds to Death while Israeli Police & Civilians Watch, Shouting Insults” (imemc.org)

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[–]Striker115syndicalist 3ポイント4ポイント  (23子コメント)

Wow, that's just depressing...make me want to think that there's no hope for humanity and that it's better to just off myself.

But seriously, fuck Israel, fuck the police, fuck anyone who think the kid deserves to die.

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[–]NotToiletPaper -1ポイント0ポイント  (15子コメント)

I don't disagree with you comrade but that kid did stab 2 people before he died. It's important to get all the information first from different sources, I think.

[–]Rein3 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

First: since when do we trust cops, specially in a case like this?

Second, even if he stabbed 2 people, you think what happen is justifiable?

Third, fucking human decency. You don't kick someone who's fucking bleeding to dead in the floor.

[–]NotToiletPaper 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I literally said nothing that justified anything that happened.

[–]EgotisticallamaPost Leftist[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea... You kinda tried to... Twice.

[–]SaneDunk 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trust cops? Loads of civilians saw this happening in front of their eyes, the victims themselves.

If a crazed person is running around the street looking to stab and kill as many people as possible, going for a fucking 13 year old boy riding his bike, I think you're justified in trying to neutralize the kid or whoever did it.

The kid wasn't kicked, he was just shouted at. You want to talk about human decency in a situation like that? With the tense situation currently happening in Israel? It's an intense moment, and that guy couldn't contain himself, is it really that hard to fathom? Yes it's fucking shitty to walk up to an injured person and shout shit at him, but it's not unimaginable in this situation. At least he didn't touch him or try to finish him off.

[–]punkswcleankitchensfungi 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

neutralize the kid

murder* the kid

[–]EgotisticallamaPost Leftist[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (9子コメント)

I don't disagree with you comrade but that kid did stab 2 people before he died. It's important to get all the information first from different sources, I think.

Before he was *murdered.... ? Are you a Zionist? A colonialist? All the Israeli sources in the world wouldn't get me to believe that two settlers on stolen Palestinian land didn't get what was coming to them.

[–]SaneDunk 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

What you're saying is despicable. All Israeli civilians deserve death for living in Israel? Even if they didn't choose to be born there?

I'm an Israeli, and I'm currently working to save up money to leave this place, and if I was stabbed in the street, I'd certainly fucking object to people saying that I deserved it because I'm an Israeli civilian.

How you can justify the killing/attempted killing of innocent civilians is beyond me. You probably crucify Israel any time some Palestinian gets killed. They probably didn't deserve anything, right? Only innocent Israelis deserve to die, is that your view?

[–]commutebybike -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

What you're saying is despicable. All Israeli civilians deserve death for living in Israel? Even if they didn't choose to be born there?

This is what your comrades believe.

[–]EgotisticallamaPost Leftist[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Living in Israel

ITS NOT ISRAEL! HOW DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT?

[–]SaneDunk 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't understand.

I mean I know that there are people who believe that the entirety of Israel is illegally occupied and that it somehow makes the entirety of Israel's population criminal and makes it open-season on every civilian to get killed. I just didn't understand who you mean by comrades.

[–]commutebybike -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm saying a lot of the people you associate with ideologically have toxic and oppressive beliefs, and are basically just about the worst type of internet tough guys. I don't think you should be surprised by seeing stuff like that posted here on this reddit, which routinely features people fantasizing about murdering civilians.

[–]SaneDunk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ohhh, well yeah. I noticed. Some people here are pretty.. hardcore with their beliefs.

[–]The_Other_One_71 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

He wasn't murdered, he is alive. I think that this whole situation is terribly sad. This situation has children trying to kill children. How can you not feel empathy for that? It's so fucked up and I just can't see how people can celebrate children carrying out attacks against other children.

[–]punkswcleankitchensfungi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He wasn't murdered, he is alive.

The article says that Hasan Khaled Manasra is dead

[–]EgotisticallamaPost Leftist[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Celebrate? You think me stating he has a right to defend his land is me celebrating? Fuck the implication, I'm not a nationalist. I believe this boy has a fucking right and is not at fault in any way shape or form and I will continue to condemn anyone that believes otherwise.

[–]SaneDunk 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

The kid's not dead. He was taken to a hospital to be treated. Is it that hard to comprehend why that guy was shouting at him? This kid and another one just stabbed two people, one grown man and another 13 year old kid, injured them seriously.

In the current state of affairs in Israel, it's really not surprising that people are fed up with this kind of crap, and the guy in the video just shouted stuff at him. It's not like he started kicking him or trying to finish him off.

You said fuck to a lot of things here, but not to random stabbings of innocent people, didn't say fuck to random terrorist acts that don't help the Palestinian cause in no way whatsoever. Shit like this will only make things worse for them and for their image worldwide. (Unless of course the camera only starts playing after the terrorists get neutralized, showing them injured or killed and completely omitting the fact that they just stabbed innocent people, trying to kill them)

So yeah, fuck you dude.

[–]punkswcleankitchensfungi 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

The kid's not dead ... It's not like he started kicking him or trying to finish him off.

Yes, he is and yes he did

While the child was bleeding to death

the police officers kicked him back down until he bled to death.

The slain Palestinian child has been identified as Hasan Khaled Manasra, 15 years of age

...

In the current state of affairs in Israel, it's really not surprising that people are fed up with this kind of crap, and the guy in the video just shouted stuff at him.

Are you for real? I really don't think the Palestinian people have done anything to the Israelis that would justify murdering a child with your car and cheering on his death, even if he stabbed someone. Lots of kids stab people, it's a fucked up world, do I think they deserve to be run down and denied medical attention until they die for it? No.

[–]SaneDunk -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Strange, last I heard he was in a hospital. My mistake if he's dead. In the video I can't see any cops kicking the kid down, it's just some guy shouting at him, and then some cops arrive and push the man away.

This 13 year old boy was confirmed to stab 2 people, he was run over as he was trying to run away by some civilian. Now if he was justified in stopping the child from escaping like that is up for debate, he could've been on his way to try to stab anyone else that looked like a good opportunity.

I don't have anything to say about him being denied medical attention. I just don't think it happened that way. There are loads of terrorists that get treated in Israeli hospitals if they're subdued and get taken into custody. And a lot of people here are mad about that. I don't know where you got that info about the kid being denied medical attention.

[–]punkswcleankitchensfungi 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

The officers did not shoot him, but left him bleeding with head injuries, broken legs and other serious injuries on the ground. The boy was able to raise his head a few times, but the police officers kicked him back down until he bled to death.

Did you read the article? Doesn't seem like it.

Now if he was justified in stopping the child from escaping like that is up for debate

Is murdering an 8th grader with your car justified? Seriously that's up for debate? The dehumanizing of Palestinians is the catalyst to Israel's genocide.

[–]SaneDunk -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read other articles about it. In the reports I read it was just stated that the 17 year old was shot to death as he was running with his knife at some cops, and the 13 year old got hit by a car and then taken away (פונה in hebrew usually means the person got "evacuated" to a hospital). None of the articles I read specified about the 13 year old boy's injuries.

I said it's debatable because I didn't automatically attribute the driver of the car with clear intent of murder. As I said, the way I understood it, he either accidently hit him as the kid was running away, or he deliberately hit him to stop him from running away. It's also debatable because at the time of the incident the kid was running away after stabbing and severely injuring two people, he was an active menace and threat. You'd want to stop the two attackers from hurting any more people.

If he hit him to stop him from running away, it's not necessarily to straight up murder him. What the man who shouted at him did was wrong and despicable and it dehumanized the child.

As a side note it feels like we're not really paying attention to the fact that this boy and his friend/cousin stabbed two people. It should matter.

[–]EgotisticallamaPost Leftist[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dehumanization is the catalyst to genocide, always.