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[–]cyclopath 362ポイント363ポイント  (83子コメント)

Schools in my town have mostly done away with it as well, but the reason they give is that it's a huge distraction and a waste of time. While that excuse makes more sense to me, you gotta keep the kids excited about going to school. Doesn't help to take away all the fun stuff.

[–]Skelthy 303ポイント304ポイント  (64子コメント)

Dedicating one day to Halloween isn't gonna kill anyone. It was the one day everyone looked forward to back when I was a kid.

[–]The_Parsee_Man 114ポイント115ポイント  (8子コメント)

Dedicating one day to Halloween isn't gonna kill anyone

Tell that to Jamie Lee Curtis

[–]cmshazam 26ポイント27ポイント  (1子コメント)

Umm she always made it through... Take that Segourney Weaver!

[–]Weedity 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not in Resurrection ;)

[–]Apoplectic1 15ポイント16ポイント  (2子コメント)

It nearly killed all the bacteria cultures in her gut, but Activia saved the day and makes her poop on the regular now.

[–]GenuinelyGinger 41ポイント42ポイント  (21子コメント)

Hell, we didn't even get a whole day! We started our classroom parties after lunch, so we still got lots of school work in during the morning and mid day. We put on our costumes around 1:30 and had a blast. I feel so sad for my kids knowing they might not get to enjoy some of those things that I looked so forward to as a child. I even looked forward to going to my kids' classroom and helping out with the parties!

[–]Mistymtnreverie 33ポイント34ポイント  (18子コメント)

Same with my kids, except two years ago the candy disappeared. They get fruit, pretzels and dollar store plastic junk.

These kids can't even get salt, ketchup or butter at lunch anymore. How do you eat a baked potato with out butter? This year he said the ketchup is back only for hotdogs. Yet they still have junky cereal & sugar filled yogurt for breakfast and chocolate milk. Makes no sense

[–]demoux 19ポイント20ポイント  (10子コメント)

These kids can't even get salt, ketchup or butter at lunch anymore.

What?

As you said, how do you eat a baked potato without butter? I doubt they're providing the kids with sour cream.

School lunches are bad enough. Being barred from masking the "taste" of the "food" they serve is nearly criminal.

I worked in a school recently and thought that my prejudice against school lunches might have been that I was a kid at the time. Nope, they were still awful.

[–]Mistymtnreverie 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

Needless to say he gets a mom lunch now. He's really tall and skinny and needs the calories. His typical lunch is a pepperoni and cheese sandwich, cherry tomatoes, mango fruit cup, pickle, goldfish & a pudding cup. Cheese n crackers +a juice box for snack and he comes home & eats 3 bowls of cereal before dinner. Don't know where he puts it lol. He did grow an inch from May to September :-)

The issue is the new federal guidelines. The ketchup, salt, butter, etc puts the entire lunch over the limits. Also no more cake for the monthly birthday lunches. Used to be, once a month the kids would celebrate the birthdays and get a fun lunch and cake. Thanksgiving luncheon, no pie. Most of our area, the kids qualify for free/reduced lunch and they can't deviate from the menu.

[–]boost2525 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

Don't know where he puts it lol

Pro tip from a former kid: he puts it in the trash, specifically the cherry tomatoes/fruit cup/pickle.... because he knows he can have cereal when he gets home.

[–]Mistymtnreverie 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, actually he doesn't. He eats cherry tomatoes like candy and would eat the whole jar if pickles if I let him. My kid loves vegetables and fruit. I see him pig out on them at home. He raids the garden when he wants snacks. Only veggies he wont eat are beets, brussel sprouts and hot peppers. It's meat that he avoids. Plus he picks his lunch stuff. I home schooled him last year and trust me the kid is a bottomless pit lol

[–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I was a kid (1980s), we got to wear costumes, but it was a totally normal school day otherwise.

[–]Iam_Whysenhymer 47ポイント48ポイント  (21子コメント)

it might not kill them but it will damn their eternal souls, so there's that to worry about.

[–]Mcklintock 45ポイント46ポイント  (18子コメント)

I know, right? I'm a Christian but never understood this thought process. It's like if you died and you see God looking at the book of life.

God- "Sorry, you're not in here."

You- "But was I not a good Christian? Did I not feed the poor enough, volunteer enough, give enough? Did I not worship you enough? What did I do wrong?"

God- "You dressed up as a Power Ranger on Halloween back in 2000."

I mean, I can understand a Christian not watching certain horror movies or dressing up a certain way or not playing with Ouija boards. But if little Timmy dresses like a Power Ranger he's going to Hell.

[–]SP_57 31ポイント32ポイント  (8子コメント)

not playing with Ouija boards

This drives me crazy. My cousin refuses to be around them, and she's not even religious, just a nut.

Ouija boards are toys. No more, no less. Hasbro owns the copyright. You might as well swear off playing Trivial Pursuit.

[–]Giveitatrytwice 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

Right!? I've had far more success piercing the veil with Trivial Persuit than I ever did with a ouija board.

[–]Fred4106 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

To be fair, I am not a religious nut, but watched a horror movie as a kid and I don't think I could bring myself to touch a Ouija board. I know its irrational, but still.

[–]Mcklintock 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally if they say they don't mess with it because of their beliefs then I'm fine with it, it's their personal choice.

[–]Voodoo1285 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

You dressed up as a Power Ranger on Halloween back in 2000.

Are Power Rangers Satanic?

God - No, the correct costume for 2000 was Yu Gi Oh.

[–]CookedBlackBird 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because Jesus would never forgive them of course.

[–]ThisOpenFist 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

John 3:16, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, and everyone else is going straight to Hell."

[–]gabrielle1106 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Plus you can totally make it a learning experience.

Like do math learning with pieces of candy.

Or have kids dress up as real characters from history and they have to do a report on that person. I remember I did that as a kid, I'm from Florida and we got to dress up as a famous Floridian and do a report about that person and it was super fun!

Another activity could be learning about Halloween and other holiday traditions from around the world.

And in art class you can learn about an art technique and use it to make cool decorations.

In science you could have the teacher dress up as as a crazy scientist and demonstrate cool chemical reactions.

Seriously this is pissing me off cause halloween could be a great way to get kids excited about learning.

[–]MyroIII 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Now kids can dress up as Florida man! :P

[–]Fred4106 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Bag of meth in one hand, shotgun in the other. Great costume idea.

[–]TossingBalls 39ポイント40ポイント  (6子コメント)

They did this at my daughter's high school, including ban on dressing up for Halloween. Actually unleashed a surge of creativity as the kids figured out how to dress up without falling foul of the rules. I heard great stories!

Creativity and fun in teens cannot be quashed no matter how hard schools try. Thank goodness!

[–]Mooskitt 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

They did the same thing at my high school because Halloween quickly went from "dress up scary" to "dress up in a mini skirt and high heels"

[–]TossingBalls 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

If so that seems like overkill. They could simply say the costumes need comply with dress code.

[–]Higher_Primate 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or just let sluts be sluts

[–]bigdogblast 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

While that excuse makes more sense to me, you gotta keep the kids excited about going to school. Doesn't help to take away all the fun stuff.

There are ways to do this. My school didn't allow costumes in school, but did have a Halloween party after school. It allowed the school day to be focused on learning, and gave the kids excitement for after-school.

[–]Ben_Carson_is_a_Cuck 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was banned in my grade school in the 90s officially for safety reasons. There was some religious groups that disapproved of the celebrations but it was never a big issue.

[–]AssHatsR-Us 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They at least did a little better where I'm at. They call it fall fest, which is cool because the kids that want to dress up do and the kids that can't or don't want to can still have fun. Way lot better solution than canceling it.

[–]alderthorn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They say the same thing about recess but studies show children perform much better with recess. Children need structured play time.

[–]doctorish 239ポイント240ポイント  (68子コメント)

A lot of halloween traditions have really transcended religion though. It is much more of a cultural holiday than a religious one.

[–]BigDickRichie 233ポイント234ポイント  (39子コメント)

Halloween is not religious at all.

It's purely secular now. It's costumes for kids and adults and candy.

[–]WhiskeyCup 81ポイント82ポイント  (24子コメント)

What kinds of costumes does your candy wear?

[–]RogueEyebrow 59ポイント60ポイント  (17子コメント)

Candy corn seems to always masquerade as something tasty.

[–]mandym347 36ポイント37ポイント  (15子コメント)

I actually like candy corn, and it makes me feel so alone.

Edit: I'm not alone! This brings me great joy.

[–]emdeemcd 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

The really good candy corn has a slight honey taste which is nice. The cheap stuff just tastes like high fructose corn syrup.

[–]BestLittleWhorehouse 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Cheap plastic ones that are obviously designed to only be used once before falling apart. Same as the kids.

[–]lunartree 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I for one am still reverent to the spooky values our nation's founding fathers fought to protect.

[–]honestchippy 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

Kind of like how to many people Christmas just means family, seasonal food, and gift giving.

[–]blixon 43ポイント44ポイント  (19子コメント)

Probably referring to the exclusion of very fundamental Christian kids who think the evil Halloween stuff is super offensive. I'm guessing those kids have to stay home to not be exposed to the costumes. I saw a guy freaking out once in Costco because there was a giant Frankenstein and he didn't want his kid looking at it because it was evil.

[–]vbnm678 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

Albeit a small number, there is an "uprising" around some Christian circles getting their Jesus-panties in a bunch about things like Harry Potter.

[–]Grammaton485 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I wish you were wrong, but you're not. My school was sorta in that circle. They were torn between preventing kids reading, yet allowing them to read about magic. They thought the witchcraft was literally the Satanic kind with pentagrams and rooster blood.

[–]Samurai_Shoehorse 10ポイント11ポイント  (13子コメント)

I've never seen any Christians that shun Halloween (unless you count Jehova's Witnesses). Where have you seen this? Is it specific to particular denominations?

[–]darthjoey91 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

There's a surprising amount of Evangelical Christians out there who are afraid that celebrating Halloween, and especially with decorations of spirits and undead monsters, because of association with the occult.

Usually, it also coincides with these Christians not taking their kids Trick or Treating, but to Harvest or Hallelujah Nights, in which their kids get candy, but are just walking around the church sanctuary, not the neighborhood.

[–]ctphillips 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can confirm. Grew up in one of those families and churches. I'm an atheist now, thanks. My kid celebrates Halloween like a non-crazy American.

[–]AssHatsR-Us 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Just about any in the south I'm afraid. When I was a kid (late 70's early 80's) some churches would have haunted houses and sell cakes and pies or have cake walks to raise money and get new people interested in coming there. Such a complete U turn now. It's a shame

[–]Voodoo1285 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I went to an Episcopalean (sp?) grade school and we didn't do Halloween, per say, but it was an "out of uniform" day.

My Catholic high school let you dress up for Halloween if it was within reason, and the cafeteria served pumpkin cookies. As far as the administration was concerned we were all going to hell anyways, so why not let us have a little fun.

[–]Fourier864 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I asked a coworker last year what his kids dressed up as, and he said he doesn't celebrate Halloween since it originated as a satanic holiday. Apparently he just uses the night as a "family night", where they turn off all the lights in the house and watch a movie.

I'm not sure what denomination he was, but he was extremely religious. He had Jesus pictures/quotes hanging by his desk, and he took me out to lunch once and asked me a lot about my "faith". He seemed like a nice/sane guy otherwise.

[–]leanik 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was raised in a Pentecostal church for a few years. Halloween was not allowed.

[–]darthqueeg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

A woman I work with grew up not celebrating Halloween because Satan.

She now extends that to her kids.

[–]prettyprincess90 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

My grandparents have completely shunned it and won't even discuss it.

[–]Kaios26 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Halloween is just about as religious as St. Patrick's Day...

[–]cyberfinger 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Try telling that to an uber religious parent who is looking for an opportunity to make a statement about how uber religious their family is.

[–]absolutspacegirl 129ポイント130ポイント  (19子コメント)

The first Mr. Hankey South Park episode is coming true.

[–]sporealy606 34ポイント35ポイント  (3子コメント)

Weeeeeeeeelllll, Kyle's Mom's a bitch she's a big fat bitch she's the biggest bitch in the whole wide world

[–]UnstableMonkey 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

She's a stupid bitch and a bitch to all the boys and girls. On Mondays she's a bitch and Tuesdays Saturday she's a bitch. And just to be different on Sunday is she a super king Kong myeaha bitch. Comon you all know the words

[–]Half_Past_Five 79ポイント80ポイント  (14子コメント)

The older I get, the more South Park makes sense to me.

[–]scuzzlebutt07 50ポイント51ポイント  (10子コメント)

That's because the more time passes, the more people start using it as an instruction manual. This is ridiculous. If I were these parents, I'd tell the school to fuck themselves and put on my own Halloween parade and make it all badass and cool. Halloween is offensive? I find being PC offensive. I am seriously offended and am going to bitch and complain directly to the school district over how being pc offends my nonreligious straight white male sensibilities and is making me feel marginalized. Halloween is my culture and it's being repressed.

[–]Riveris 16ポイント17ポイント  (7子コメント)

I read an article yesterday that mentioned a group of parents pulling their kids out of school and hosting their own parade or something.

[–]scuzzlebutt07 15ポイント16ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's exactly what I'd do. It's 1 day of class that we blew off when I was a kid so we could have the Halloween party. Wtf happened to this country since the 90s. Like seriously what the actual fuck. If you said let's ban Halloween back then you would be crucified and made the laughing stock of the city. Now when someone said it they take it seriously and actually ban Halloween. Whoever made this idiotic call and the district imbicile who made it official need to be run out of town.

[–]eshemuta 84ポイント85ポイント  (13子コメント)

When I was in school the only people that complained about Halloween were Christian extremists.

[–]BigDickRichie 65ポイント66ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is probably the exact same thing here. People assumed it's immigrants or liberals but I bet it's good old fashioned evangelical Christians who don't want kids celebrating the devil.

They were always the ones trying to get Halloween cancelled when I was growing up decades ago.

[–]viceroynutegunray 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

When I was in elementary school we read the first harry potter book and this poor girl had to read in the corner all alone because her fucking Christian Extremist parents thought those books were of the devil.

[–]peensandrice [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

A story about an outcast kid who finds out he has magical powers and goes on to save the world....

Probably didn't want a cooler story than theirs competing.

[–]ModularPersona 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

The letter stated the controversial change "arose out of numerous incidents of children being excluded from activities due to religion, cultural beliefs, etc."

I am really curious about the specifics of this. It seems like a lot of people here have made up their minds about what happened but we've really been given no info on it, whatsoever.

I don't really see how anyone gets excluded from anything for Halloween due to religion or culture, but who knows what's going on in that area?

[–]hipechik 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am really curious about the specifics of this. It seems like a lot of people here have made up their minds about what happened but we've really been given no info on it, whatsoever.

Exactly. The article is being very vague/coy about what really happened. Remember the golden rules of journalism--who, what, when, where, why? This article fails on all accounts. When it says children are "being excluded," it doesn't say who is excluding them or why. It just vaguely mentions that they're being excluded and point blank mentions "political correctness." How do we know that?

[–]returnofthrowaway 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

They mention a letter being sent home detailing the reasoning, but they can't get an image of a letter? I'm thinking bullshit.

[–]BigDickRichie 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I bet it's evangelical Christians. They don't want their kids worshipping the devil (that's what they think Halloween is) but they don't want them left out of the fun activities.

So they pressure the school to cancel it so they don't have to explain to their kids why they can't dress up like a superhero and eat candy like all the other kids.

[–]dezboi 109ポイント110ポイント  (15子コメント)

Most schools just call it a 'harvest festival' or 'fall festival' to placate the idiots.

[–]Voxel_Sigma 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

Most schools just call it a 'harvest festival' or 'fall festival' to placate the idiots. Jehovahs witnesses.

[–]saliczar 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

Of all people, you'd think Jehovas Witnesses would celebrate a holiday that centers around knocking on strangers' doors.

[–]GenuinelyGinger 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone is SO afraid of offending someone because there are dicks out there who would.

[–]Bennyboy1337 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I for one think the name change is pretty cool, very medieval tone to in. Most holidays are based off the seasonal importance's anyways anyways: Winter Solstice (Christmas), Spring Equinox (Easter), Dominion day (CA) and Independence day (US)( Summer Solstice), Fall Harvest aka Fall Equinox (Halloween, day of the dead, Thanksgiving).

[–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 53ポイント54ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is a perfect example of a small group of assholes ruining a good thing for everybody.

When my cousin Erin was a kid, her stepfather banned her from participating in Halloween. It's Satan's Holiday, you see. After a couple of years, her mom allowed her to just stay home from school that day, which made it a little easier to bear. Fast-forward several years and suddenly my cousin's little brother Mark is allowed to participate in Halloween. So it was only Erin who wasn't allowed to participate in Halloween. The day my aunt divorced her dickhead, hypocrite husband was a very good day.

[–]vonmonologue 38ポイント39ポイント  (15子コメント)

Halloween is not a religious holiday.

If anyone is being excluded due to religion, it's their religion that's holding them back.

[–]savemyheavydirtysoul 19ポイント20ポイント  (11子コメント)

It is a religious holiday for us Pagans. We call it Samhain.

[–]KairoPlays 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Halloween is no longer a religious holiday. It has its roots in Pagan and Christian ideas, but has since been completely changed. I agree it's ridiculous, but these people, they'll do anything to have a politically correct society. Even overly politically correct.

[–]mojofrog 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

In SC it's considered devil worship. Not kidding at all. Extremely superstitious people. But they're the same ones who want prayer in school and Jesus in the school Christmas play.

[–]HardcaseKid 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

SC lowcountry resident. In the 1980s we had a Halloween festival in the damn Parish Hall, costumes and candy, Adult run haunted house, and trick or treating as a group through the local neighborhood, the whole bit. Then in the 1990's a bunch of evangelical uber-bitches took over the planning committees and put the kibosh on the whole thing.

[–]The_Withheld_Name 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think I'll just read this article and AT FINANCIAL BLAH BLAH WE'RE COMMITTED TO SERVING YOU THE aaaand no, no I'm not reading the article.

[–]IxWoodstockxI 487ポイント488ポイント  (178子コメント)

Thank god I'm not a kid anymore fucking political correctness is killing our country making everybody into a pussy

[–]Ghostalker474 201ポイント202ポイント  (115子コメント)

I think we saw that coming when they started eliminating recess time, certain sports in gym, and canceling field trips.

[–]TLH3 80ポイント81ポイント  (99子コメント)

I heard kids don't play Dodgeball anymore, is this true?

[–]Wixjrnnfks 107ポイント108ポイント  (8子コメント)

Not with wrenches

[–]Mc_Robit 37ポイント38ポイント  (5子コメント)

But if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball. How else are they supposed to learn?

[–]An_Image_Of_Mohammed 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ahhhh, those were the good ol'days when we were able to throw pieces of tools at our dodge ball opponents....

Trips to the infirmary, ambulances, stitches, gouged eyeballs, loose teeth and blood on the gym floor...

Good times. Good times....

[–]Just_Call_Me_Cactus 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

And then off to Coach's for a celebratory sleepover!! He had the best N64 games but no one else showed up and then I ate this tuna sandwich he gave me and now I feel weird.

[–]CaptMorgan74 56ポイント57ポイント  (26子コメント)

In my state it is true. We have OEPA (Office of Educational Performance Audits). They are like the Nazi SS of the state department of education. They come into a school and then critique them on everything they are doing wrong down to the smallest detail. Back when I was a teacher (high school science), they had in our report that the PE class was playing dodge ball which is a big no no because it alienates students. Also, we used real jump ropes. The only approved jump ropes in my state are ones without ropes. Students are supposed to hold the handles and pretend there are ropes because some students are not able to jump a real rope and we don't want them to be embarrassed.

[–]VikingBoatTruckBoat 21ポイント22ポイント  (10子コメント)

What the hell state do you live in?

[–]CaptMorgan74 15ポイント16ポイント  (9子コメント)

[–]Asiatic_Static 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

What the hell is the point of a cordless jump rope? Like what?

[–]Princess_Cherry 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hell I'm fat now and was when I was in school, but learning how to time myself using a jump rope was a good thing. Made my legs a bit stronger too. Fuck those people.

[–]Paladin327 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

What the hell is the point of a cordless jump rope?

you don't have to plug it into the wall so you can use it elsewhere

[–]Mnemniopsis 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

normalizing childhood obesity

[–]ThisOpenFist 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

I had forgotten about your state.

[–]CaptMorgan74 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Me too ... and I still live here. Need some coal? We've got tons of it that nobody wants to buy anymore. We'll sell it cheap.

[–]coporate 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Could you imagine if we treated the rest of a school curriculum the same way?

Oh no billy you don't have to learn this physical skill, don't bother practicing and trying to get better.

It's okay billy, don't worry about not understanding the math problem, and you didn't do your homework? Maybe you'll develop those skills another way.

Physical education needs far more attention than it gets, it needs to be treated on the same level as any other class.

[–]CaptMorgan74 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

The problem is we do treat education that way! All that Billy's parents need to do is take him to a doctor or psychologist and get an IEP (Individualized Education Program). Waaay back when I was a teacher, before leaving for a rewarding career, I taught high school science, and about 50% of my students had IEPs. When you have a student with an IEP you have to list each of the accommodations you make in your lesson plans, and you must accommodate them. IEPs are binding legal documents. For me that would turn a ten page lesson plan for one week into about 50 pages (multiplied by the 4 classes I taught). Here are some items I remember from the IEPs I had (remember these were students in grades 10-12):

  • Student cannot preform higher math problems. Please exclude higher math problems from their curriculum (fun when you're teaching chemistry and physics).

  • Student cannot be tested for reading comprehension (very common).

  • Student cannot have poor grammar corrected.

  • If student curses or screams during a class please call for an aid via intercom so they can take him to a quiet room to calm down.

  • Student must have access to his chew toy.

  • Test questions must be read to student. (This is a common one.)

  • Due to medication side effects, student must be allowed to sleep in class. (Yes. Really.)

  • Student must be allowed to walk around the classroom.

  • Student must have unrestricted access to the restroom.

Basically, if a student has any sort of problem, it can be wiped away with an IEP. Little Timmy can't sit still and listen? He has ADHD! Does Timmy have a problem with authority? He has ODD (Oppositional Defiant Disorder). Also, according to the DSM (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, which is the foundation of the entire diagnosis system) "above-average creativity" is now classified as a mental illness.

Edit: From my perspective now working for a company in the real world and dealing with applicants. IEPs don't follow these kids into the real world. When I see an application that looks like it was filled out by an elementary student, it goes straight to the shredder. I don't give a crap if Billy can't be tested on reading comprehension. If he can't read and comprehend simple instructions, he could hurt himself or others. Also, if Billy can't be tested on math skills, do I really want him running a cash register? Am I supposed to take Billy back to my office when he cusses and screams at a customer of fellow employee? Poor Billy. I hope he likes living in his parent's basement, or on welfare ... or being homeless.

[–]saliczar 8ポイント9ポイント  (5子コメント)

That is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I'm so glad I don't have kids, because I'd never put up with bullshit like this. That generation is going to be royally fucked once they hit the real world.

[–]downneck 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

if a jump rope has no rope, in what sense is it a rope? i despair for humanity

[–]XmurphdogX31 14ポイント15ポイント  (17子コメント)

Partly true. I've never played actual dodgeball in school only slight variations of it, but now they're starting to get rid of it all.

[–]impediment 23ポイント24ポイント  (15子コメント)

I graduated in 2001. Dodge ball was played at least once a week if not several times a week for my entire childhood up through sophomore year. I imagine it continued but I didn't have P.E. after that. This makes me very sad. I was the picked last kid who couldn't palm, throw, or even dodge the ball, but I still enjoyed the game.

[–]vonmonologue 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

'04. We played it maybe once a month in middle school, very rarely in HS.

[–]AnUnchartedIsland 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

'11 here. I played dodgeball like twice in middle school gym. In elementary school, we weren't even allowed to play dodgeball on our own if we wanted to because we weren't allowed to throw anything at anyone else, not even balls.

[–]reed17 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

They banned it at my old elementary school because kids who sat out or got out early weren't getting enough physical activity. My little brother attended post-dodgeball and they literally ran almost every day for the entirety of the class.

[–]Mooskitt 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

True when I graduated. They got rid of it because some pansy ass kids felt "purposely targeted" more than others.

[–]ItsMinnieYall 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I worked at an elementary school in 2012 and they still played dodgeball.

[–]Chevleon_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

last time I played dodge ball it was with foam balls that caught so much air resistance that people could just stand at opposite ends of the gym and not get hit. It was pathetic. I could throw very well with a basket ball. but those foam balls are absolute shit. it got to the point that no one wanted to play. took the fun out of the game.

[–]whatsinthesocks 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dodgeball with basketballs seems a little much to me. Those don't give and can do some damage. Kick balls were the best.

[–]Ghostalker474 9ポイント10ポイント  (16子コメント)

I've heard the same, but of course, it'll vary from school to school.

You'd think with all the concern over childhood obesity, we'd be wanting kids to run around as much as possible while they're young. Even as someone who was (and still is) physically fit, I'd work up a sweat and be out of breath after 45min of dodgeball.

[–]mandym347 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

You'd think with all the concern over childhood obesity, we'd be wanting kids to run around as much as possible while they're young.

Running doesn't help kids pass standardized tests.

[–]teadrinks 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's a very high correlation with sports and academic achievement.

[–]Khourieat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe there's the same with music classes, but we've cut those out, too.

[–]impediment 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

Back around 1990 they were so adamant about kids running around that my teacher ran me into an asthma attack after I argued that I couldn't breathe and needed my nebulizer (inhalers either weren't around much or we couldn't afford them?). There's some lines here that make this a very difficult topic but I agree things are getting seriously stupid lately.

[–]demoux 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

A school I worked played dodgeball, but with those stupid soft little foam balls.

We basically used the same balls for dodgeball that we did for kickball.

I'm here today, alive and well, and psychologically scarred from my experiences in gym class from the 1990s.

[–]MrKrazybones 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I caught the beginning of it when I went through HS. Any dangerous sports such as football or dodgeball during PT was 100% optional. you still get credit for the day if you want to just sit off to the side. Which was actually better because I didnt want people who didnt want/know how to play on my team anyways

[–]ScubaSte7e 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't think your comment is related to the first one at all. One is about being politically correct. Yours has more to do with funding than anything else.

[–]vanishplusxzone 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

My elementary school 20 years ago didn't allow us to wear costumes to school because they cause distractions and we were at school to learn. We'd have a "festival" with games and candy for the last hour of the last Friday before Halloween, but that was it.

[–]GenuinelyGinger 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, that's similar to what we did. We didn't wear our costumes to school. School went on as a normal day up until after lunch. Then about 130 or so, we would put on our costumes, and the classroom moms would come in and we'd have a little party. I think we walked around the block in a parade in our costumes and even did like a cake walk.

[–]Big_Baby_Jesus_ 99ポイント100ポイント  (22子コメント)

Typically, it's the evangelical Christians that oppose celebrating Halloween. They're not known for political correctness.

[–]arjun10 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I was growing up, it was precisely conservative Christians who were seen as killjoys and who complained about being persecuted and how holidays like Halloween were bad.

[–]plus1zero 10ポイント11ポイント  (3子コメント)

I live in the heart of the Bible Belt...no idea where you've seen that but almost everywhere celebrates Halloween here. Churches even have Halloween events at their church with candy, games, food etc. for the whole community for parents who don't want their kid out by themselves.

[–]jack_broni 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Who was it in this case?

[–]western_red 42ポイント43ポイント  (6子コメント)

None of the articles say. Given that the school said their decision was based on "numerous" incidents where children were excluded, and the fact that Milford CT is 95% white, I'd guess /u/Big_Baby_Jesus_ is right.

[–]vonmonologue 17ポイント18ポイント  (2子コメント)

Is Milford, CT heavily Jehovah's Witness?

Because I know they're not allowed to do halloween.

[–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not just JWs, it's Christian fundamentalists. My cousin's stepfather refused to let her participate in Halloween when she was a kid because Jesus. And it wasn't just that she didn't get to participate, she had to watch her classmates participate. Imagine if you were the only kid not allowed to participate in Christmas, but you still had to sit around and watch the other kids eat candy, sing carols, and open presents. Her mom eventually let her just stay home from school on those days.

And then fast forward a half a dozen years, and her stepfather absolutely allowed her little brother to participate in Halloween. It was just Erin who wasn't allowed, because her stepfather is a huge asshole. Fortunately, her mom divorced the stepfather, so only Erin's childhood was ruined and not also her adulthood.

Edit: I should add, they lived in NJ at the time, so it was extra hard on her because she was the weirdo in that regard. She was the only one not allowed to participate.

[–]blixon 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm guessing it's not the PC crowd but the fundamental Christians objecting. They get super offended by Halloween stuff.

[–]scithion 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not political correctness, it's laziness and "parent's rights". I'm all for not traumatizing kids with social exclusion, but the at some point the school has to distance itself from parents who want to control its curriculum.

[–]bigdogblast 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

making everybody into a pussy

You are the only non-Pussy left in America. A true badass.

[–]Damn_Dog_Inappropes 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's actually the opposite of political correctness. It's because so many dick parents don't let their kids dress up and participate because Satan that the school district felt that it was unfair to those kids to continue. It's an example of one small group ruining a good thing for everyone.

[–]baloneycologne 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then there are the PC religious fanatics who still actually believe that Hallowe'en is a DEMON POSSESSED holiday, and that evil spirits actually exist.

They are turning our country into a nation of superstitious fucking morons.

[–]DDBB4LYF 14ポイント15ポイント  (12子コメント)

Not having a halloween party in school is killing our country?

[–]CHAINMAILLEKID 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Halloween is the only thing keeping the demons at bay.

[–]Kamaria 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

It's a bit of a slippery slope. They start taking away things to make it nice and sterile for anyone that might be 'offended' at Halloween, next thing you know they're taking away other things too. It's kinda like when they started banning Christmas trees because they're not 'inclusive' enough.

[–]Im_not_truthful 16ポイント17ポイント  (2子コメント)

'Separation of church and state' then we ban things in public schools based on religious preference.

Makes perfect sense.

[–]rolledupdollabill 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

Um Santa Claus is pretty fucking pagan let's do that one next...and easter too.

[–]Dreamscarred 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

The entirety of Christmas has been stolen from other Pagan holidays. Yule, the Nordic festival. Odin was Santa, you left carrots for Sleipnir and his eight "tiny" feet, the druids had the damn evergreen they brought inside, and Krampus licked the shit out of bad kids.

Easter is a fertility festival... which knocks it a peg more disturbing than Krampus.

[–]fuckdirectv 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds to me like this school district is having trouble understanding the distinction between "exclusion" and "opting out", which is a rather sadly ironic if you are responsible for educating kids. Children who don't participate in Halloween activities because of religious or cultural beliefs are not "excluded" from anything. They are simply choosing not to take part in something that is inconsistent with their standards or beliefs. That is their prerogative, but certainly not an indication that they are being told they can't be a part of something. When you start cancelling/banning things because certain people won't take part in them, you are on a slippery slope. Once you start down that path, it usually doesn't end until you have banned everything fun. Sucks to be a kid in that district, I guess.

[–]BigDickRichie 69ポイント70ポイント  (12子コメント)

People are assuming it's being cancelled because of "Those damn foreigners not adapting" but it's just as likely because of Christians who don't want to support a holiday "celebrating the devil".

[–]RerollFFS 62ポイント63ポイント  (5子コメント)

Was anyone thinking thinking it was foreigners? Christians seem like the obvious culprit.

[–]BigDickRichie 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

A lot of the initial comments were about people not assimilating into the culture etc.

[–]snakebaconer 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

Don't forget the SJWs. The top comments are blaming them.

[–]therealterry 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Weren't they the dancing troupe that backed up Chuck-D, Flava-Flav and Terminator X on stage? I'm not sure why they should be getting any blame...

[–]CWRUW4 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

This right here. I am a Spanish teacher and around the same time I teach kids about dia de los muertos and plan a few fun activities for them and I always have one crazy parent call me to let me know their kid won't participate in devil worship and I always say okay great thanks and hang up. Then commence with the activities for the day and the kid would always be embarrassed about their parent. Especially when it would be like making tissue paper flowers, skeleton designs with q tips, papel picado, and coloring in cool skull designs. No devil worship. Oh, and pass out candy and show a cool video about the history of the celebration. I never got a complaint either.

[–]ivsciguy 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I always brought a couple extra cheap masks to school to give to the kids with fundie parents. It was hillarious watching them freak out when they saw them.

[–]original_4degrees 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

i never understood what exactly "the devil" has to do with it...

[–]SuggestAPhotoProject 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

The Christian Taliban strikes again.

[–]cockroachboy 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

how about teaching them the basics like reading and writing

[–]Colony-of-Slipperman 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

Consider religious freedom like like a venn diagram.

The left circle is the ability to practice your religion as freely as you wish. (Stone people to death for adultery, fasting, taking a razor to your daughter's clitoris, hating gay people, all the righteous stuff you can think of) The right circle is secular rules. Like no killing, no genital mutilation, no impeding other people's right to ignore your religion) The right side is the winning side. It consumes the overlap of the circles. Religious freedom exists only where it does not conflict with secular law.

Your kids go to a public school. A school run by the public (i.e secular). There is an activity going on at school that you do not want to partake in, you are not being forced and retain the right to exclude yourself. Being forced to make that choice however is your own fault, or your choice in it of itself, and you therefore do not have the right to make the school stop the activity. Remember the diagram.

[–]Leafstride 6ポイント7ポイント  (6子コメント)

"...where students go from car to car collecting candy." Are these people retarded?

[–]chasonreddit 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have to wonder how many windowless vans this will attract.

[–]cuchlann 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's actually a really common, widespread practice. In my area it happens in the parking lots of churches, mostly, but sometimes schools (so in the first instance it can be a "harvest" thing or whatever). The stated idea is that it's not safe going door-to-door. I think, if I remember correctly, it started because of the (ultimately false) stories of people poisoning candy. Supposedly better checks on who gives out stuff if everyone's in the same place.

Don't get me wrong, it's dumb. But actually, it's probably less likely someone would try to kidnap or abuse a kid because the parent's right there. More likely at a mall Chuck E. Cheese's.

[–]j-sap 12ポイント13ポイント  (4子コメント)

Next they're going to ban Harry Potter in the public library because it promotes witchcraft.

[–]BlatantConservative 13ポイント14ポイント  (8子コメント)

Why is Haloween at school? My schools never did Haloween stuff, I thought most of it happened at night?

[–]ivsciguy 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

We had a half hour little party at the end of the day. My first grade teacher did an epic job dressing up as a witch. Full green makeup and high end costume. She read us a couple kids books with witches in them and talked about the differences between Which and Witch. Then one of the parents made fruit punch and put a big chunk of dry ice in the bottom so it would bubble. That was one of my most memorable and fun days of school overall.

[–]daknapp0773 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Halloween isn't a Christian holiday or even a Pagan one anymore.

Halloween is a secular holiday where kids dress up and eat candy and adults dress up and drink booze.

Stop placating the religious minority and allow kids to have a day of fun.

[–]DrLemonPepper 16ポイント17ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm not entirely sure a school district can "cancel Halloween"... So they don't have a costume party at school. Big whoop, wanna fight about it?

[–]oohcarrots 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because the entire "article" is click bait to scare us about the horrors of PC culture. But it doesn't give any example of who might be offended here, or by what, so literally any response of outrage is unjustified, because thanks to this shitty news story we don't know exactly what we are outraged by. But that didn't stop Reddit from the anti PC circle jerk.

[–]returnofthrowaway 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

"They sent home a letter, detailing that reasoning!"

Image of letter unavailable.

[–]Colony-of-Slipperman 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yea I wanna fight about a bunch of religious brats trying to shove their stupidity down my throat.

Wanna fight about it?

[–]Rocklobster92 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to be able to wear my halloween costume to school. It was the most fun day of the year. I remember an R2D2 costume won a price one year, it looked really authentic. I doubt this is allowed anymore.

[–]idiotseparator 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guess they better update those Goosebumps stories for 2015. The boogeyman went Social.

[–]Frito67 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The more time goes by, the better my childhood looks. We celebrated stuff, had all kinds of freedom to roam and explore, weren't stuck in front of a device (except rainy day tv). Being a kid now must suck.

[–]igottashare [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They're not being excluded; their parents are choosing to have them not participate. There is nothing in any religion that prohibits a child from dressing up as a superhero or robot. Halloween is culturally significant in North America and should remain so.

[–]ABKB 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is US American thing, it is like thanks giving or super bowl sunday, leave it alone. We have are own cultural rights.

[–]BigDickRichie 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

The people opposed to this are probably good old fashioned conservative American Christians.

Probably don't want kids exposed to the evil holiday that celebrates the devil.

[–]Thisbymaster 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am fine with it. Just as long as they stop giving them time off for holidays as well.

[–]the_hokey_pokey 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why don't we just put a moratorium on all things fun and enjoyable for anyone, so everyone can be unhappy all the time, and no one is ever offended? We could probably celebrate Arbor Day or something.

[–]purenews88 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wait, are the asylum seekers christian extremists pressuring schools for placating Satan?

[–]GlitchHippy 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Grey and hideous clock like existence. This is the agenda of those running the child brainwash centers.

[–]shelfcleaner 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's been like that for years now in Texas.

[–]mitre991 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If your beliefs stop you doing something you're not being excluded from shit.

[–]StreetCalledHaight 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Stay tuned for Bill O'Reilly's 'War on Halloween' broadcast

[–]eyeoxe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really getting tired of the religious hypocrites trying to ruin everything for their ajendas.

They want to ban Halloween, while trying to preseve christmas as their exclusive club day, and it is getting old quick. .what? Christmas used to be a heathen holiday? Yuletide, solstace?lalalala cant hear you! More Jesus, praise!

[–]looking4mee 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

..so if our families "religion" was celebrating all themed holidays, wouldn't this policy place us into the "discriminated against" category?

[–]f1junkie 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

So glad my kids aren't in school anymore. Every story I hear about school pisses me off more than the last one.

[–]Quazijoe 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait, School districts have say over halloween?

Can they ban Thanksgiving for Exchange students?

[–]TakebackYuletide[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The more Christians freak out about Halloween, the more they give it power. MMm... blood moon, the time is almost nigh...or is it neigh? Horsemen of the apocalypse help me out here, are we going for puns or what? neigh? Was that a no? Freakin centaurs...

[–]Quazijoe 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Richetelli said there are seasonal activities this year. The PTA is hosting a Trunk or Treat where children can wear their costumes and go from car to car collecting candy if they would like to take part.

Let me get this straight. They have banned a recognized North American Tradition to protect the children from Exclusion. But the PTA is now teaching kids to go to Cars and Accept Candy from strangers instead.

Please tell me there will be a Rundown White Van Somewhere handing out the good candy. I really want the PTA to realize how screwed up this is last minute.