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OFF-TOPICStarter's Guide to /ggrevolt/ (the less strict alternative to /gamergatehq/ for 8chan Gamergate supporters) (self.KotakuInAction)

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https://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/28.html#28 (NSFW, of course, since it's 8chan)

Hi all, I know KIA has gotten some more users, so I thought this would be a good time to shill, as we've been losing numbers recently and could use some more support (I suspect because early on we were too focused on drama with GGHQ, driving people away due to a lack of interest in that drama, but now we're putting out more and more topics relevant to GamerGate, alongside the GGHQ drama threads, because anything relevant to GamerGate is allowed here, including developer boycott threads).

Why /ggrevolt/? What's wrong with /gamergatehq/? Acid Man's overbearing moderation style has alienated many from /gamergatehq/ and forced us to create a new board outside his control. At /ggrevolt/ we hope to have less strict moderation and give power back to each individual GamerGate leader to decide what gets posted on the board.

We would also like to welcome old friends and newcomers who don't necessarily care about /gamergatehq/ or Acid Man drama. Feel free to post on either board. If you'd like more explanation as to why /ggrevolt/ dislikes the moderation of /gamergatehq/,https://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/28.html#28 is a good place to start.

What /ggrevolt/ aims to provide is a platform for you to discuss these issues related to GamerGate and plan solutions, without the overbearing moderation from /gamergatehq/. We are only as good as you are.

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[–]BrimshaeSun Tzu VII:35\Survived GGinDC 2015\Dined GGinNC 2015\GGinRVA 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I find it interesting that /ggrevolt/ is trying to recruit on a subreddit some or most of you consider to be your enemies.

Unless I'm misreading the following quote:

ID: 000000 - Which means KiA is now the first sub redditors run to when censorship issues come up.

ID: ec137e - We couldn't ask for better allies than our enemies.

And then there's further down...

ID: ca869e - Let's work on getting KiA banned. Just include something racist and/or transaphobic in every comment.

ID: b4486e - we should report all the e-celeb drama on KiA as harassment.

ID: c122fd - KIA is more cancerous than anything.

ID: 0a553a - They can ban kia because it's mods are leaders and cancer, like all the other leaders gg now has.

Maybe some of the /ggrevolt/ people should should get their house in order, and maybe listen to HotWheels when he says

Secret club mentality will literally kill this place [8chan]. Not just metaphorically. It will consistently lose users and one day just not be here and I will have an email in my mailbox telling me they [2ch] pulled the plug.

[–]BasediCloud 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You are misreading the first quote. The enemies are SJWs which results in massive numbers on users finding kotakuinaction.

Maybe some of the /ggrevolt/ people should should get their house in order,

What are you suggesting here? Banning those people for saying stupid shit?

and maybe listen to HotWheels when he says

That makes no sense. ggrevolt is not the board with the secret club mentality. It's the board where you can post stupid shit and not worry about getting banned. The reactions will be i) ignored ii) laughed at iii) flamed iv) argued against

You won't beat ideas by banning them, "cleaning house".

The secret club is gghq who threw ggrevolt out cause they weren't pure enough and posted ideas they can't refute. That drives users away on a chan. You need to treat ideas differently on a chan than on reddit. On reddit you can downvote people to hell to "show them" (you might remember trolls who did just that and enjoyed the attention of getting their accounts to thousands of negative karma). On a chan you need to control yourself and stop taking the bait. Give them attention by banning them is taking the bait, they are back seconds later with a new proxy.

Take that for example

ID: b4486e - we should report all the e-celeb drama on KiA as harassment.

Nothing will happen. Anons will not take the bait. As you can see, no replies to that. Such a post will not result in anons storming to do something. It's not convincing. It doesn't make a good case.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first two are praising KIA or at least recognising it's power. and the foolishness of people driving them into your arms,

The rest will be criticism of how you deal with that, like making one megathread which is frankly idiotic under the circumstances.

As for getting the house in order, GGHQ, /v/ and /pol/ have destroyed 8chan for Hotwheels due to their moderation, that's why he backed /ggrevolt/

Hotwheels WANTED Reddit defectors because these boards are so shit and stagnant rule wise. And the attitude of people shitting on new boards pissed him off.

So you've pretty much got all of it somewhat twisted.

[–]Vallorn_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

I have 1 question. Do you have a fuckton of useless stickies like GGHQ?

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, three at the moment, but I'd prefer one at all times and two if there needs to be a sticky.

[–]Netscape9Founded /r/AskGamerGate \ Ask me about #GGinArchon! 3 Oct 2015 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That annoyed the hell out of me when visiting GGHQ.

[–]Vallorn_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mmhmm, out of all the issues with GGHQ it's the fact that two thirds of page 1 is just various stickies (Many of them just useless tat) was the thing I hated most.

[–]its_never_lupus 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not convinced by this. Maybe I don't spend enough time on 8ch but I've not seen any good arguments that Acid Man is harmful, and the complaints against him usually seem to come from shitposters or ayyteam types. The /ggrevolt/ board is always a messy place that would benefit from a cleanup. Maybe /gamergatehq/ is a bit too serious or slow moving for some but I like the fact actual discussion and digging goes on there.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Link is a list of bans and reasons why. Remember this is Anon gg, not KIA, people did not leave 4chan to be told what direction the bus must go. https://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/28.html

Also the reason given for the death of the HQ board was not 'enough moderation'. This is absolutely delusional, even after the Fattening they still hover around the same numbers. We have lost almost 2500 people, /ggrevolt/ was an attempt to roll the clock back to before the /v/ takeover.

The mods got a lot wrong, after the strife here spilled over, it did more damage on 8chan than KIA, because of the difference in user base and the way they think.

When the whole 'Ethics only' shit happened, the mods became paranoid and mistook people on the board arguing genuinely but at cross purposes as shills.

It went downhill from there.

[–]BasediCloud 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I like the fact actual discussion and digging goes on there.

Well unless the poster is not pure enough. Then the opinion gets nuked like the Mirror's Edge thread http://8ch.net/ggrevolt/src/1433899217780.png - ~30 UIDs in this thread. Nuked. That whole "shill" "shitposter" "ayyteam" othering to justify hard moderator action is a tactic you should be very aware of given what "safe space" happenings are upon us.

Or "factual discussion" when someone has an idea they do not deem worth discussing. You may think of "drop the hashtag" - which pretty much is in line with Sargon saying "we need a new hashtag" is stupid. But the reaction gghq has to it is a disgrace.

PIcture version http://8ch.net/ggrevolt/src/1433878435365.png

archive version gamergatehq: https://archive.is/bDbUc
ggrevolt: https://archive.is/gQuXF

all links NFSW (8ch)

[–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also when I called out Acid Man with proof that he violated his own rules by telling someone to fuck off for being a ggrevolt poster, NOBODY, and I mean LITERALLY NOBODY offered ANY defense to that. They all either just deflected by restorting to insults and identity politics, and when Acid Man finally did respond, he only justified it by saying "telling shitposters to go back to a shitposting board is not breaking that rule", using a blatant double standard to go out of being caught being a fucking hypocrite.

Just look at this fucking embarrassment and tell me you're okay with this:

http://i.imgur.com/Rn9EmCO.png https://archive.is/ecqkN

http://i.imgur.com/RC00h37.jpg

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 6ポイント7ポイント  (23子コメント)

At /ggrevolt/ we hope to have less strict moderation

Yeah, I noticed. A post with an image calling for "Gas The Kikes - Race War Now" was left up for days. So trolls can ruin our reputation all day, thanks to ggrevolt's negligence. I'm really glad that the mods here finally decided to remove that crap Ayyteam-board from the sidebar.

Frankly, I was buying into the anti-Acid Man narrative, until I saw some actual posts by him. Of all the GG-'leaders', he seems to have the most amount of strategic insight. He's interested in getting things done.

If people want shitposting and banter, that's fine, but ggrevolt is not the sub for that. Make a new one that has the moderation to prevent doxxing and open racism, and then you can chat.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Hi, I'm the anon who set up /ggrevolt/. Firstly, it's a reaction to narrative building by cliques, which I think we can all agree has happened whether here or on HQ, whether you agree with the direction of these cliques different matter.

Secondly, that thread was bumplocked immediately, otherwise it would be top of the catalogue. The way the board was shitposted and flooded by hq and /v/ was a tactic, then to screencap it and tell KIA or Twitter, or anons on HQ, the board was just for shitposting. I can see their post history, they come on shilling for Acid Man, then post three threads of Zoe Quinn nudes, the go to twitter.

Thirdly, this board has no backers but anons who couldn't deal with HQ anymore, it isn't why we came to 8chan. KIA is a different matter, but an anon GG board turning into a clique board and banning genuine gg who have been there from the start over rule differences, is absurd.

So it has to deal with /v/ against it, hq against it, twitter against it, and KIA it seems against it, all while not banning people but letting the board try and find it's feet.

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

While I support Acid Man, I have no problem with others setting up boards. But can you ban racism, doxx, Ayyteam and GNAA? Don't let trolls co-opt your board.

[–]BasediCloud 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also, remember when you posted that

I'm not so sure. Look at how false accusations of racism and rape delegitimize actual instances of these phenomena. It's become impossible to call out real racism without people pointing out that everything is called racist these days.

And now you are the one who is trying to pull the racism card as legitimate and want it banned on a chan. It is very much still working.

[–]BasediCloud 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

But can you ban racism, doxx, Ayyteam and GNAA?

no, yes, no no

You can't ban "racism" in a board with a big /pol/ influence. And GamerGate on 8ch was created by both /v/ and /pol/. Add to that the ridiculously wide definition of what racism is nowadays and you have a moderation nightmare.

Doxxing, well you probably can. The diggers hate such a rule though since it severely impacts their digging if they are not allowed to name names.

Ayyteam and GNNA and shill and other accusation which boil down to identity politics are cancer as a moderator. There is a reason why ghazi or suspected ghazi posters are not banned here.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Banning racism is ridiculous, the whole ethos of the board is to promote what you want and ignore what triggers you.

Nobody has been banned, the whole reason AyyTeam became a problem from such a small group is in the first week of HQ, Acid Man starting banning people for talking about it, a full on Streisand, and they have been trying to fuck with him ever since.

I know of zero of these people, because like a lot of people we wanted to ignore them, it's internet 101. Unfortunately HQ painted a big target on ourselves.

So no, they won't be banned, shit threads get saged, and then deleted later on to clean out the catalogue.

[–]derram_2 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Uh-oh, Mr. /ggrevolt/ said the "N" word!

Bzzzt! Downvote!

[–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah early on there was an influx of HQ posters shitting on the board, and I do suspect they were responsible for some the threads posted there to make us look bad. Certain twitter posters would then use these as proof that we're all bad, which as I said, is the exact same tactics we've ALL seen used against us all as GamerGate supporters by the SJW's. So if that was bad then, why support it being done to anyone? Especially against your fellow GG supporters.

The mass attacks on revolt that use the same SJW tactics used against GG supporters as a whole should be a massive red-flag that something is seriously wrong.

[–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (14子コメント)

He bans people he disagrees with, he'll label them as shills or shitposters, regardless of whether or not either accusations are accurate. Boycott threads and discussions are banned as well, I was banned for merely making a civil boycott discussion thread, accusing me of "purposeful shitstirring". Check out that thread I linked where people have posted their bans and the hilariously absurd justifications given.

Where is your proof that this is an Aytteam board? What bothers us is that so many people in GamerGate are using the exact same tactics against us that SJW's have against GamerGate as a whole this entire time, guilt-by-association, baseless accusations. And I still wonder why that is.

Do you see that thread now, tho? I have yet to see any doxx posted, but racist should not be banned, we shouldn't be worried about our image because it doesn't matter what we do, we'll be labelled as the devil. Look at the charities we've funded, did any of those help alleviate the accusations that we're a terrorist hate group? What matters in the end is that we're right, that the facts our on our side, not who we are.

As long as nothing illegal is done, it's fine, and if people post anything illegal I can assure you that it will be removed. Stop using the SJW tactics against your own allies, this is the type of exclusionary mentality that created ggrevolt to begin with.

If we want to win this, we need to stop pushing people away. If you want a board where people are allowed to say, discuss, and do what they want, without fear of being excluded or banned for wrong-think, well as long as you keep discussion relevant to GamerGate in any way, and avoid posting illegal content, than /ggrevolt/ offers you that. But if you'd rather allow yourselves to be under the control of Acid Man, to be forced to agree with him and never post anything he doesn't like (even if there's no real justification for it), than I obviously can't do anything about that.

[–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

Also they removed links to both gghq and revolt here, the new message is to visit all the GamerGate boards on 8chan, so I don't know why you're implying that revolt is being specifically excluded here.

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

There are tons of GG-boards on 8chan. I'm just glad this sub is no longer endorsing GGrevolt. That was a disaster in the making, because anything done by trolls there would immediately be pinned on us.

/u/feroslav, can you post that image regarding GGrevolt and the Ayyteam?

[–]feroslav 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/bJqxzHW.png

Here is full post.

http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/38yqeo/megathread_gamergatehq_and_ggrevolt/crywghu

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks man.

[–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hi, I made the board nearly two weeks ago now, and have been doing the Janitor work since then, first the board was supposed to be Swami, then Ayy Team, it's bullshit.

Zan himself is not even sticking around. And keep in mind Hotwheels knows BOTH Zan and Acid Man, and has backed /ggrevolt/, and personally assure me Zan would be fine.

Even if he isn't I could delete him tommorow and find somebody else, or continue as the board owner.

[–]derram_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're still going with the Swami thing.

They also got that guy shadowbanned, so I really hope it was swami.

[–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're speaking of Zan, yes, but he is currently looking for mods so he can step down:

https://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/14242.html

[–]BrimshaeSun Tzu VII:35\Survived GGinDC 2015\Dined GGinNC 2015\GGinRVA 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wonder if I could get mod status there.

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

He bans people he disagrees with, he'll label them as shills or shitposters, regardless of whether or not either accusations are accurate.

There were tons of shitposters and shills on GGHQ for a long time. I'm glad Acid Man got rid of them. There may have been some false positives in the ban list. Doesn't make him a bad guy.

I was banned for merely making a civil boycott discussion thread,

Well, you knew discussion of boycotts are banned. While I don't agree with that, it's certainly understandable, as posts are deleted by 8chan when they are buried - so there is a huge incentive to keep shitposting to a minimum.

but racist should not be banned

Not racists, advocacy for racism. It has nothing to do with GG and only harms our image. There is zero benefit to GG when you have a post with "Gas the Kikes - Race War Now" on our board.

As long as nothing illegal is done, it's fine, and if people post anything illegal I can assure you that it will be removed.

Doxx are not illegal. Yet they should be removed. "As long as it's not illegal" is a ridiculous standard.

If we want to win this, we need to stop pushing people away.

Agreed. Seeing a GG-board with "Gas the Kikes - Race War Now" pushes people away in a big way.

[–]BasediCloud 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

There may have been some false positives in the ban list.

Listen to yourself. Do you know where I read that the last time "some false positives, meh" it was Ezra Klein defending yes means yes.

[–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah some false positives, like how I was not only banned for making a civil boycott discussion thread, but after my ban was appealed and I saw a mod outright lying by saying boycott discussion was banned and showed how I was banned for making a boycott discussion thread, I was banned AGAIN, and told to "go back to your own board", as seen in the "post your ban thread" I linked.

[–]Free__Radical 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well, you knew discussion of boycotts are banned. While I don't agree with that, it's certainly understandable

Then I'm sure you'll understand why we left that place and why we're never coming back. If a consumer revolt can't discuss voting with their wallet they might as well move to collecting stamps. Not to mention that those policies are enforced by an unelected janitor (their true "leader").

[–]derram_2 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

I mean, when a dev calls his customers "worthless" why shouldn't we make our distaste known?

https://archive.is/aNeI2

http://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/12398.html

[–]Free__Radical 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Funnily enough, that thread was lifted from KIA: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/396uwi/history_puppygames_one_of_two_indie_devs_raising/

So both KIA and /ggrevolt/ had a healthy discussion on the subject while /gamergatehq/ forbids this kind of talk. Case closed.

[–]bluelandwailcisquisitor 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

trolls can ruin our reputation all day, thanks to ggrevolt's negligence

Muh PR.

It's a /pol/ in-joke. 8chan has never been about PR. Used to be that you got mobbed with >she for calling Brianna a she. The only thing that the 8chan gg boards have always been against has been doxing - and if you could point me to a doxing thread on ggrevolt, I'd be grateful.

Either way, anonymous Internet boards aren't nice. By trying make them appeal to PR, you remove the essence of what they are. Might as well make it another subreddit.

[–]Lurking_Faceless 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

The concerns on both sides about board owners and their behaviors are fair enough, though I can offer little here to clarify.

What I can say, is that the decision for HQ to "purge shitposters" was backward. Heavy-handed moderation is incompatible with chan culture and all but guaranteed a backlash. A backlash which would be portrayed as vile much as a decision to "purge misogyny" from 4chan, neogaf or so forth would inherently vilify any group that came out of it.

I don't fault users for finding comfort in a curated space, but I do ask them to appreciate the dangers which stem from having a small number of underappreciated people hold remarkable power over that space. I think it is highly important that GG have at least one significant locus featuring a generous interpretation of free speech and minimum risk of filtration of 'problematic' ideas. Revolt is the only hub I see marketing itself as such, so if you value such things, I suggest giving them a chance. Whether they ultimately destroy themselves remains to be seen.

[–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you, genuinely nobody who has been here from the start wanted to split a dwindling gg board or cause havoc.

I do have to ask if new rules alienate so people to the point they cannot post their on principle, how can the new rules be seen as 'good', when mods should be doing as little harm as possible.

Here's a thought experiment, if HQ dies tommorow, those people could easily come and shape revolt the way the wanted to, just without having Mods enforcing it.

If revolt dies, gg is over for nearly everybody on that board, and the people who have yet to see it and may have come back, out of the 2800 odd people who left under gghq's time.

[–]bluelandwailcisquisitor -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Upboat.

I would appreciate it if the BO remove the pretty obvious shit posters trying to "prove a point."

[–]monkhouse 4ポイント5ポイント  (54子コメント)

You've been losing numbers because the proxy shitposters got bored and stopped. Honestly it worked better than i thought it would, there are obviously some sincere posters in the among the angsty teens and ayytist goons, so gj there i guess.

Over the hump now, though. I fear it's only a matter of time until it slows down to the point where someone gets bored and pulls the pin and wrecks the place, then they all pile in here going 'lolol we trol u so salty ayylmao' and so on. I do hope it never happens tho, gghq is much more readable these days.

[–]derram_2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Actually, the /v/ and /pol/ shitposters got bored and stopped. They flooded the board for the first couple days.

[–]BasediCloud 0ポイント1ポイント  (52子コメント)

ggrevolt posters won't go back.

Or will you go back to reading Gawker when GamerGate fails?

The board owner of gghq purged them, basically told them they are not allowed to post there, to share their opinion there and banned them. If ggrevolt dies off those poster will never come back. But at least GamerGate is purer, maybe we should other more people as angsty teens and ayytist goons and purge more groups out of GamerGate as a whole to "make it more readable".

[–]monkhouse 5ポイント6ポイント  (48子コメント)

What happened to you, man? You used to be cool.

[–]BasediCloud 2ポイント3ポイント  (46子コメント)

I'm anti-authoritarian. As long as I have been in GamerGate I have been anti-authoritarian. What Acid is doing to gghq is an absolute disgrace.

[–]monkhouse 2ポイント3ポイント  (45子コメント)

Well, fair enough I guess, gotta stand by your principles.

I have to ask tho, are you sure you're anti-authoritarian and not just anti-authority? Because I'm with you all the way on the first, but the second tends to be the exclusive provenance of the young and naive - those who've never held enough responsibility to appreciate how fucking difficult it can be to keep things together, and those who've not spent enough time examining their habitat to appreciate that almost everything they take for granted is being held together for them by some luckless authority somewhere.

I was there in the purge thread, I saw what people were getting banned for, I had no problem with it, and I still consider myself anti-authoritarian. My thinking goes like this:

'You are banned, because your constant whining and antagonizing and shitposting is clogging up every thread and rendering the board non-functional' -> authority

'You are banned, because I'm the leader and I can ban whoever I want' -> authoritarian

Anyway, I guess we'll see how things shake out. I do hope revolt sticks around, once the outrage dies down and the board slips to its natural position and the people therein start to realize how little they are missed (sorry, but it's true). And not just for selfish reasons, tho I've got plenty of those - if you and yours really find opposition to tireless, tedious shitposting so disgraceful, you shouldn't have to stick around and put up with it.

[–]BasediCloud 0ポイント1ポイント  (44子コメント)

I'm not anti-authority. But authority is something you have to earn.

One of the first lines in the purge thread was (paraphrased) "all tor posters are banned while the purge is taking place". And then using the posting history of IPs against the posters by the moderators and the board owner. It wasn't about the arguments anymore it was about the people. That is authoritarian, that has to be done if the person has no authority.

In a real world example. If you have authority you look at a misbehaving child with glaring eye and the child will avoid eye contact and apologize. If you do not have authority you behave authoritarian and scream at the child and beat the child.

If you need to shout down and beat down opposing voices, be it via a ban button or via screaming shill or sage-bombing you do not show authority, you show incompetence. Incompetence to beat the arguments, so all you have left is to attack the person speaking the argument.

[–]monkhouse 3ポイント4ポイント  (14子コメント)

Sure, I agree with most of that in the abstract - and it would have to be in the abstract, since it's a description of a world I've never been to, one where everyone does what they're supposed to and nobody's in it just to fuck around and piss people off.

What if, for instance, when you look at the misbehaving child with your glaring eye, they don't break eye contact and apologize like they ought to, but instead scream 'cuck, cuck, you're a fucking cuck, fuck you you cuck, fuck shit cunt nigger cuck cuck fuck you' and on and on and fucking on and on? What do you do then? Accept that it's the child's right to express themselves and ask everyone else in the supermarket to just put up with this shrieking shit, because to do anything else would be authoritarian?

I suppose it does hinge on these arguments you speak of, these invincible arguments which presumably preceded the spamming and the wailing and the cuck-cuck-cuck. I'll have a whack at that competent rebuttal, if you'll allow - I don't think I need the know the details to refute them. Ready?

They are bad ideas because they didn't happen. Every op that GG has ever done has been, by necessity, entirely voluntary. If enough people agree with the proposal, it happens. Simple as that. If you keep posting the same ideas month after month and they never catch on, it's not because acid man and the mod nazis are out to get you, it's because the ideas are no good.

And if you keep on posting the same ideas, getting a little nastier and a little more shrill each time, people get bored and start dismissing you out of hand, saging and calling you a shill. Then if you keep posting, but now sans any idea at all, just raging and wailing about how nobody takes you seriously, people get irritated and tell you to fuck off. If you then aim all your frustration at the board owner, thinking that somehow if you can pressure him into endorsing you all the thousands of other people who think your idea is shit will change their minds, he's eventually going to have enough of it and ban you. All this has come to pass.

Time will tell, in the end. Perhaps once you've all finished venting your spleens into 'fuck acid cuck' threads, and once you've spent enough time shilling the board to boost your numbers (that'll teach that cuck!), perhaps you'll calm down and collect yourselves and put these awesome irrefutable ideas into action. Or perhaps there can be no freedom for GG while acid cuck still reigns, and the first stage of winning is to dismantle his board and then any other community that thinks ill of you, and then you can get onto the important tasks of... whatever those plans were that people would've totally gone for if only they hadn't. Boycotting devs, I guess? I'm sure there are more.

Hand on my heart mate, I don't think you're a shill, but I'm pretty sure you let shills into your head, and I'm pretty sure that this whole pitchfork party began as a plan to weaken GG as a whole - either to hasten its demise outright or to create an opening for those self-infatuated ayyteam cunts to grab the helm and make everyone recognize how clever and special they are. So yeah, do whatever you want to do, but I implore you to keep half a mind on the big picture. Every sulky post you make about this mod or that drama is a post you didn't make about actually furthering the putative goals we're all supposed to be fighting for.

[–]derram_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm having a lot of trouble reading your post due to all the condescending and all around general assholishness.

You could'a dropped most of that and only had about a paragraph instead of this wall of text.

[–]monkhouse 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sorry :( It just comes out that way.

TLDR - no u

[–]derram_2 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

There's the comparison with children, the constant mischaracterization of their behavior and their arguments, the dishonest history lesson, ignoring the work the board is doing while focusing on the shitposts, the shaming language, questioning the mental state of your opposition, and then you end it by completely ignoring the fact that acidman started this with his purge and blame ayyteam as if they had the ability to ban people and change the rules of the board.

What I don't see is any type of actual fucking argument.

[–]BasediCloud 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

You are looking at it terribly one sided and paint it with a brush so you can rationalize throwing people out of the gghq board. They are all just useless and shrill and punishing useless and shrill people is just.

then aim all your frustration at the board owner, thinking that somehow if you can pressure him into endorsing you all the thousands of other people who think your idea is shit will change their minds, he's eventually going to have enough of it and ban you. All this has come to pass.

See that mindset is extremely flawed. No one on ggrevolt wants that type of board owner who endorses ideas and has the power to endorse ideas. No one wants a board owner either who has the power to "have enough of it and ban you". There is no justification for a janitor losing his mind like that. Acid said it himself

Why should we trust you, you fucking faggot?

Because I don't have an ego. I'm just a faggot on an imageboard. I don't Skype, I don't IRC, I don't own a website, I don't get in shitflinging matches, and I don't get butthurt over dumb shit. I don't want to be a leader and I don't want to be sucked up to.

Does that look even remotely like the type of person who constantly uses his trip on the board to enact board owner authority, to give his opinion more weight? Does someone who doesn't want to be a leader decide to just "ban them all"? He has lost it. He is not the person who wrote that anymore.

Will you go full retard and screw us over like the last board owner did?

Absolutely not. And just in case, there is a contingency plan where the 8chan site administrator has my permission to seize the board and take care of it in my stead if I am somehow driven off the deep end.

He went there. He is off the deep end. And he has too much of an ego to see it.

Hand on my heart mate, I don't think you're a shill, but I'm pretty sure you let shills into your head

I'm not the one who sees the shills boogeyman. Look how you write about "the shills" and think again in whose head they are.

The big picture is a big umbrella where many people can join to fight. By limiting the big picture to the small vision of GamerGate the gghq has they have driven away people en masse. They divided and conquered hundreds of users with the purge. The big picture is that just taking that and begging a board owner to be allowed to post there is not tolerable.

A community where users post that line is not healthy.

P.S> Mods I have no idea if this post violates rules, I offer it freely to the purge gods if necessary.

[–]monkhouse 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

Right, but what you've done there is post his promise from back when, and then claimed that he's totally lost it because he banned a bunch of people. You haven't quoted anything he posted in the purge thread, you haven't posted the obvious 'go on I dare you' posts that actually got people banned, and you've not mentioned at all the part where for a good week or two every thread on the board regardless of topic got cacked up with people raging and counter-raging about ethics cucks and ayytists and acid fag and plebbitors and all the rest.

It honestly doesn't matter which side of the arguments you were on, the board was fucked, people were just drawing lines and winding each other up and productive ideas were getting lost in the melee. Something had to give, and it turned out to be the board staff's patience. So be it - gghq works now, where it didn't before. Nobody died, no fortunes were lost, no churches were burned. The only casualties were feelings, and their owners will survive, inshaallah.

(that 'offering to the purge gods' line is some serious bootlicking though, no argument here)

Oh, and shills - come off it man, they're about. Overdiagnosed, sure, and the definition's spread to mean any sort of dumb or trollish sentiment, but they're about. They just got a bit smarter than 'Hey guys, why don't we change the hashtag?'

[–]BasediCloud 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

He has broken that promise. Why you don't care about that is beyond me.

[–]Free__Radical -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

What if, for instance, when you look at the misbehaving child with your glaring eye, they don't break eye contact and apologize like they ought to, but instead scream 'cuck, cuck, you're a fucking cuck, fuck you you cuck, fuck shit cunt nigger cuck cuck fuck you' and on and on and fucking on and on? What do you do then?

Then you probably need to reexamine your grasp of reality. Thinking that you're an adult and your detractors are children is a dangerous illusion. If you own a board and 2/3 of your "children" have left you're a failure.

If you then aim all your frustration at the board owner, thinking that somehow if you can pressure him into endorsing you all the thousands of other people who think your idea is shit will change their minds,

That's the problem. GG has no leaders. We don't need an 8chan janitor to endorse our right to free speech. You're forgetting where we came from.

but I implore you to keep half a mind on the big picture. Every sulky post you make about this mod or that drama is a post you didn't make about actually furthering the putative goals we're all supposed to be fighting for.

What we're fighting for is our right to free speech first. Without that we can't organise and we can't act. Again, you're missing the part where we're inspiring anons to join us instead of suppressing others from doing what inspires them. Think about it.

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 2ポイント3ポイント  (28子コメント)

I'm not anti-authority.

Could have fooled me. You dislike Acid Man, dislike KIA-moderators, dislike anything that gets in the way of anyone saying anything that would make us look bad.

[–]BasediCloud 0ポイント1ポイント  (27子コメント)

I'm anti-authoritarian.

It's in the same comment tree...

[–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 1ポイント2ポイント  (26子コメント)

In my view, you're more than that.

[–]BasediCloud 0ポイント1ポイント  (25子コメント)

Oh I'm sure you can't understand me.

Prof. Haidt and his colleagues have set up a website, YourMorals.org, where they get people to fill in questionnaires about their moral foundations, and have discovered something else: Conservatives understand the morals of liberals, but liberals do not understand those of conservatives. When conservatives are asked to answer questionnaires as if they were liberals, they generally get the motives right. When liberals pretend to be conservatives, they attribute incorrect, evil motives. This is not surprising; liberals think conservatives are not just wrong; they are moral inferiors.

[–]Tohsakas_Anus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's been trying to angle himself as some kind of leader of KiA for a while now.

[–]derram_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Dude, did you read the part where he said:

then they all pile in here going 'lolol we trol u so salty ayylmao' and so on.

See, acidman purged them from his board, so now they're not a part of GG anymore.

/ggrevolt/ is "them" or "they" now.

GG went from a community that spanned multiple websites whose members warned "beware divide and conquer tactics" to "If you're worried about karma you should go somewhere else" and as for /gghq/ it was just "GTFO"

[–]BasediCloud -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It really saddens me how effective the divide and conquer was this time with screams of "karma whore" "shill" "goon" "ayyteam" "purge" "containment board" "honeypot".

The most ridiculous part is that the gghq side calls ggrevolt the divide and conquer board after gghq banned them.

[–]Free__Radical -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

ggrevolt posters won't go back.

Yes. Personally, I will never go back to a board where janitors are actively "managing" the discourse. You can't run a GG platform like a chicken farm. KIA has a much softer moderation than /gamergatehq/ believe it or not.

[–]slickbomb 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

We would also like to welcome old friends and newcomers who don't necessarily care about /gamergatehq/ or Acid Man drama.

This is the important part, for whatever reason /gamergatehq/ has been pushing users away and it's good to try and get them back interested in GG even if it's on another board.

[–]Inuma -1ポイント0ポイント  (12子コメント)

I got banned from gghq for someone being pissed at me using a damn avatar. I can never post there again, nor was I on the public ban list, nor did anyone respond to me when I appealed.

So when I'm done with my second video in the Inafune Report and talking about Dina silencing people that made her buttmad, expect me to show how Acidman's policies do the exact thing.

I'm still salty about that and I'll be sure to let you all know that I call bullshit on him banning people when he excommunicates people on a whim and a small first offense by being a rulescuck.

[–][削除されました]  (11子コメント)

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    [–]derram_2 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Acidman is pretty bad about the avatarfagging himself.

    [–]Inuma 3ポイント4ポイント  (9子コメント)

    That fucker deleted their comment...

    I agree with banning you, avatarfags are cancer. The problem is that GGHQ allow namefaging, because Acid can't live without it. They should ban both, they would have a lot less drama. So the only problem here is inconsistency, and you are fool if you think that anyone will care about some ban for attention whoring.

    So let me get this straight, the main thing Acid Man gets away with is the very thing he bans people forever for doing? He decides a person's worth to the community and if you don't follow his example, bye bye with no answer whatsoever of the stunning hypocrisy of an asshole mod who claims to be for the community he's turning into his personal hugbox?

    That's a stunning moral plea of ignorance and doublethink and I'm glad they deleted this because then I'd really have to go off...

    [–]feroslav 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Well, I deleted it because I changed my mind and didn't want to start a pointless argument. I thought I deleted it fast enough, nevermind. I stand by my words, if you are avatarfaging, you are just annoying attention whore, but as I said, it's hypocritical from Acid to ban only you, when he is the same kind of attention whore wtih his namefaging.

    Your complain is basicaly "I'm the same idiot like Acid, but he can get away with it." Well, yeah, you are right, but what about not being an idiot in the first place? This is such a nonissue that I'm looking forward to your video whining. I'm sure that the whole board will turn against Acid because he banned one annoying avatarfag, lol. Calling it "deciding a person's worth to the community" is hilarious. If you can't take a ban for somthing that anons have been always annoyed by, you probably shouldn't go there.

    [–]Inuma 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    No, it's stupid to think that a damn avatar makes you an unwelcome part of a community when you do far more then one thing with an anonymous message board to express yourself. Not like I did it all the time, in every thread, or for attention, that's merely your own ignorance coming out.

    When the premise of your own argument is "yeah, but," you may want to think far more about how it comes off. This is just trying to justify a dumb rule which the BO regularly breaks, exposing his own agenda.

    [–]feroslav 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If your feefees are so hurt by that ban, you can write to Acid. I'm pretty sure he will unban you, I've unfortunately seen it with some other avatarfag.

    [–]Inuma 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If I gave a damn other than pointing out the hypocrisy, I'll be sure you're the first to know.

    [–]derram_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    No, the problem is you don't ban someone for something you do yourself.

    http://i.imgur.com/anmYolW.png

    http://i.imgur.com/VDdZJsl.png

    [–]feroslav -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yep, I said that Acid is hypocrite in this regard. For me is namefaging and avatarfaging the same, so it doesn't really matter if he does both, he is hypocrite either way. And ´yet it's still nonissue, I'm glad he bans at least (other) avaterfags, better than nothing, lol.

    [–]Free__Radical 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm glad he bans at least (other) avaterfags, better than nothing, lol.

    That's weird. I would assume that a board owner who bans others for something he does himself is... somewhat detached from reality, no?

    [–]derram_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Really just depends on what mood he's in. Sometimes it's an hour long ban, sometimes it's a couple days, sometimes it's forever.

    On the positive side, the ban lists reset every 90 days, so it's not really forever!

    As someone who spent so much time on reddit, I can't really fault him for trying to "clean up the off-topic stuff" on his own board, but I still disagree with it. I mean, there's now a rule on /gghq/ to prevent shit talking people from reddit.

    What I really don't like is his behavior towards /ggrevolt/ after he drove them out.

    [–]Inuma 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I didn't even care about the board split. I just do a lot of digging on corporations and kept to my own little corner. This just pushed me away from the bullshit of gghq. When you are banned for something so small and it's so punitive, don't expect me to endorse your board for my own findings in terms of corruption.

    [–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We had also caught Acid Man violating his own rules, by telling someone to fuck off just because they posted on another board

    (which, as you can see in the rules, is not allowed : https://archive.is/a0tBc 3: Inter-board drama is not allowed. No picking fights with someone based on where they are from or using their home board as an insult. Everyone is welcome to contribute here, including /pol/ and KiA. Making baseless complaints about the poster ("GO BACK TO /pol/-REDDIT WITH YOUR SHIT FAGGOT!") will result in a warning and post deletion.)

    https://archive.is/sTX3I https://8ch.net/gamergatehq/res/188277.html#q196779

    [–]feroslav 2ポイント3ポイント  (16子コメント)

    It's funny how desperately /ggrevolt/ tries to get some people from KiA while constatly hating on KiA.. I mean hating on redditors is not something special on 8chan, but /ggrevolt/ is extra dedicated. And while it happens obviously on GGHQ as well, I have yet to see them to post a thread trying to get more kia users on their board. Meanwhile, this is like 5th thread shilling for /ggrevolt/.

    Hint - no one will go on a board run by someone afilated with ayytists.

    [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    KIA constantly hates on itself, you are not an identity or a hobby board, the basic thrust of gg is here now. You MUST be open to criticism, and prior to any of this HQ shat all over you, as was their right.

    You must always be aware that moderators should never be given more authority to shape the path, because they are one person or one clique, and if you haven't been paying attention, gg is a broad church of people.

    However they are being squeezed to a consensus. Do not take criticism of this board personally

    [–]derram_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As someone who's been browsing /ggrevolt/ for the past 6 days or so, I'd love to see these threads where they are constantly hating on KiA.

    I mean, I've seen them talk shit about reddit and the mods of this sub, but I've never seen them "hate" on another part of GG.

    [–]Free__Radical 0ポイント1ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Not surprised to see you again in a /ggrevolt/ related thread trying to smear us. You've managed to catch 5 out of 7 threads so far despite the fact that they only appear briefly in the "new" tab. Is this accidental?

    www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/38ap6h/ggrevolt_new_board_on_8chan_gamergatehq_is_shit/

    https://archive.is/QsjdP

    www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/38fmxc/a_possible_new_board_on_8chnet_and_no_i_am_not/

    https://archive.is/kPCNI

    www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/38vr09/metaoff_topic_even_hotwheels_agrees_ggrevolt/

    https://archive.is/AAcO0

    http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/38yqeo/megathread_gamergatehq_and_ggrevolt/

    https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/39kwiv/starters_guide_to_ggrevolt_the_less_strict/

    [–]feroslav 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

    ILUMINATI!!!

    Or I just know how to reddit and I have changed my settings so I can see all threads no matter how much they are downvoted. MAGIC!!! And because of that and also because I think /ggrevolt/ is cancer, I usually let people know.

    And funnily enough, I would have most likely missed this one if /u/AntonioOfVenice didn't mention me in this comment.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/39kwiv/starters_guide_to_ggrevolt_the_less_strict/

    If I was you, I would do a background check of /u/AntonioOfVenice. It can't be an accident that he summoned me! I have a suspicion that he is paid by Bill Gates to disrupt GG activities, specificaly /ggrevolt/ activities.

    [–]derram_2 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What is with you guys and the mocking?

    Do you think more people will agree with you if you just make fun of the other person?

    [–]feroslav 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Not really, if you didn't notice, this thread is burried in loads of spam that is KiA full of right now and only people watching it here are those from this thread http://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/14537.html.

    I usually mock people when they are saying something really stupid, and I do it solely for my own amusment. This is I think the second or third time when this guy accused me of some sort of conspiracy. The ggrevolt thread is also funny.

    [–]derram_2 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This I think second or third time when this guy accused me of some sort of conspiracy.

    No, see, that's the problem. You are saying he thinks it's a conspiracy. He asked you why you show up in every thread about /ggrevolt/ to smear the board.

    You answered when you said you think they're "cancer." You don't say why, but hey, if they won't sit in /gghq/ then they don't deserve to be in GG anymore.

    The rest of the comment is just you springboarding off your own insults into more.

    [–]Free__Radical 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

    Your explanation is unconvincing. Those threads disappeared from the the sight of 99% of KIA members yet you (and your group) managed to catch most of them. Most Redditors spend their time reading and commenting - Not refreshing the "New" tab and browsing chan boards they dislike. It's statistically impossible that this was an accident.

    I would invite KIA mods to check the voting patterns on all seven threads. I'm sure that can be obtained from admins if you have the same group of people somehow catching that 1% chance.

    Didn't your "side" complain about brigading? Well - Let's see the evidence.

    [–]feroslav 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Ok, you got me. I can't hide it anymore, I confess, I'm guilty. I'm a leader of a group consisting of 3 jews - the fourth being me. We watch KiA new tab 24/7, we change our duty after 6 hours so we can sleep and also do something else. Our goal is to keep goyims on KiA in ignorance, and we try to suppress any and all information about /ggrevolt/.

    [–]Free__Radical 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Glad to hear it.

    Since you've complained about our brigading here: http://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/38fmxc/a_possible_new_board_on_8chnet_and_no_i_am_not/

    With:

    This is also widely supported by users of your board. Organizing attacks on our mod team and brigading.

    ...we should probably ask KIA mods to examine the voting patterns for /ggrevolt/ related posts. I've already messaged the mods to do it. Feel free to join me so we can resolve this issue.

    [–]feroslav 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Mods can't examine shit. They can only see upvote/downvote ratio, which is something you can see to some extent too, nothing else. So I really don't know what you expect. The only people who can tell whether there was any brigading are admins. And if I was you, I wouldn't contact them. Your retarded friends on /ggrevolt/ posted a direct link to this thread, i.e. anyone who clicked on that link and voted in this thread would be shadowbanned for brigading.

    [–]Free__Radical -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    KIA mods can contact the admins for raw data or analysis. That's the point. It's been done before. You've complained about our brigading and I believe that your side is brigading this topic. Again, feel free to join me and message the mods so we can resolve this issue.

    [–]porygonzguyWriter for SuperNerdLand[M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Odd, we never got any modmail from you.

    In fact, we never got any modmail about voting patterns in the timeframe that someone on ggrevolt claimed to have contacted us.

    [–]Free__Radical 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I've sent it to Logan_Mac. What's odd is that you've been appointed a KIA mod so I don't expect you to fairly investigate yourself. :)

    [–]porygonzguyWriter for SuperNerdLand[M] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Ah, I see. Then your claims are inaccurate and you're just looking to cause problems and stir things up against the mods.

    In the future, please message all the mods before running off to whine to /ggrevolt/ about not hearing back from us. Makes you look like you have an agenda, rather than actual being concerned with thread visibility.

    [–]Ghost5410 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

    as we've been losing numbers recently and could use some more support (I suspect because early on we were too focused on drama with GGHQ, driving people away due to a lack of interest in that drama

    I would like to tell new people here that /ggrevolt/ has also attacked KiA's moderators and all public figures that support GG for only being active of GG for publicity or antis in disguise as well as /gghq/ and saying that anyone that supports KiA, Sargon, or Acid Man can fuck right off.

    Hit the road.

    [–][deleted] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    /ggrevolt/ hasn't attacked anyone. /ggrevolt/ is just a tool to allow people discuss freely what they want from gg, and how to advance it.

    Those e-celebs you are talking about, one was a thread on how that person bullied a Japanese Artist on twitter and thought it was hilarious, the rest were just threads about two others shitting on the board non-stop.

    I'd like to point out the SJW tactic of saying 'You are all this because one person said it' or outright lying, has been used on the board, and people do not like hypocrisy, particularly from people that should know better.

    For example, '/ggrevolt/ supports a blocklist'. Rogue or someone imitating him made a thread about a blocklist, every post shit on the idea, and yet twitter was telling everyone /ggrevolt/ wants a blocklist.

    That shit is pathetic.

    [–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Rogue or someone imitating him made a thread about a blocklist, every post shit on the idea, and yet twitter was telling everyone /ggrevolt/ wants a blocklist.

    I can't find the blocklist thread, but when I was there I saw basically everyone telling the OP to fuck off, because using a blocklist against people who we dislike is not only pathetic, but it's the same crap used against us by when Randi created her GGautoblocker.

    [–]derram_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    http://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/4650.html

    [–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes there's the thread, as you can see, basically everyone told the person to fuck off.

    [–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It's because the majority of the posters on ggrevolt have legitimate grievances with those people, and are allowed to speak them. No one should be above criticism, you'd be best to remember that, lest you create another Sarkeesian.

    [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Please ask any me any questions you have as the person who set the board up.

    [–]Jack-Browser/r/TheCommentGraveyard 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Kay, here goes: who's the current owner?

    [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I have full control of the board, I do all the janitor work. The other person is the owner of gg2, Zan.

    When we were organising the new board on /pol/ as the only place to do so freely, it was suggested get two board owners to set it up together so we started brainstorming names, and went to GG2 to ask him, the owner of /burgersandfries/.

    He didn't want to run the board as he thinks Gamergate should be left and move into a broader area.

    So I set up the board, and waited for Zan to get back on Land for two days, when he came back the board was already up and running, but a massive workload on me, he then did a lot of the work asking people what they wanted etc.

    [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I also freely admit that 8chan as a gg front is now almost useless, compared to what it was, and in the face of KIA's growth.

    Look at the recent gawker intern op, it was a total failure. Whereas KIA can literally fuck up anything with it's internal strife and still come strong.

    However anons were at least a check on KIA, which is so vulnerable to have nearly the whole thing in the hands of so few.

    The people on 8chan who left are not going to go back to HQ on principle, these are not the same principles as people have over here it seems. But if there isn't ONE board that acts as a check on all that power, then there is no place for these people to go, and they will just leave, as it isn't the same principles as when they came over.

    [–]WuflgarVonHeltzer[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also remember everyone here, ggrevolt is only as good as you make it, if you want better content, you can make it yourselves, find topics you want to talk about and make threads there. Whether or not they'll get replies and how many replies they get will depend on the other users interest in them.

    [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Also, this board or the off topic part has some of the best posts on cultural aspect, SJW's etc. If you have posted on KIA please chuck it up on /ggrevolt/, they are allowed to be discussed freely, whatever angle you want.

    [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (18子コメント)

    I see the thread has been brigaded to shit.

    [–]AntonioOfVeniceRuns /r/polygon \ Karma King of late April 2015 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Yes, by GGR's supporters.

    [–][deleted] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Downvoting our own thread?

    [–]cha0stat tvam asi 1ポイント2ポイント  (15子コメント)

    Have you been bleeding users because of brigading too?

    [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (14子コメント)

    I know that's meant to be a funny little comment, but the truth is yes, If you go against the mod team /v/ has chosen, and Twitter and KIA try and shut you down, it's very difficult to get critical mass.

    I mean this thread won't even be seen by a tiny percentage of KIA users, why would anyone fear it?

    [–]cha0stat tvam asi 2ポイント3ポイント  (13子コメント)

    I don't think it's fear so much as thinking you guys are pretty shit for everything that board has pulled over the last little while in terms of brigading KiA. Not to mention all the shilling.

    [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (12子コメント)

    This is the only thread that got a response I believe, and I only signed up to clarify the bullshit,

    Now tell me what happened in the other threads that made you angry, they were nuked by /v/, how could you possibly be angry over it,

    And why on earth would people not come here and expect a fair shake, knowing the exact same bullshit happened to this sub?

    [–][削除されました]  (11子コメント)

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      [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

      Link? The threads on revolt were complaining about the same five or six users on here shutting it down, and /v/ brigading.]

      We don't even have enough people on here to get one upvote ffs,

      [–]cha0stat tvam asi 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

      https://archive.is/hVrUM#selection-1407.0-1463.5

      [–][deleted] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

      What the hell, ten days old and obviously a KIA person talking about KIA internal mess. That was the third thread ever made on the board.

      We do not have the reddit accounts or numbers to brigade anything here, this thread and all the others are the proof of that.

      [–]Tohsakas_Anus -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I like how you blame absolutely everything wrong with your board on other people.

      Man up and take responsibility for your shit.

      [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

      https://8ch.net/ggrevolt/res/14537.html

      Here's the thread on this one, note, no brigading, somebody is asking your mods to check the stats.

      [–]Free__Radical -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

      when there are multiple threads there talking about brigading the sub?

      Screencapped and served to you by the same group that's downvoting anything /ggrevolt/ related. We have all those threads sitting at 0 points. Ask the admins to give you a real view of voting patterns. Don't rely on a screenshot from a board where anyone can post anything. You can go now to /ggrevolt/ and post anything you like and screencap it. Are you unaware of this?

      [–][削除されました]  (2子コメント)

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        [–]derram_2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        No, the post cha0s linked is talking shit about the mods of this sub, not KiA.

        I don't see why that's a problem, this really feels like you're saying they're wrong because they talk about unapproved topics in unapproved locations,

        Now, what really bothers me is, you're using one post as evidence against this board. But when it was LW, we said one post wasn't enough.

        I guess it just depends on who their talking about, huh?

        [–]Free__Radical -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Well, I can't help you if you're not willing to look at hard evidence of vote manipulation and prefer to look at something you laughed about while venturing into the "wild".

        [–]DarwinShillington 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

        Who owns the board? As in right now.

        [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Or above, this is all so triggering.

        [–][deleted] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Me, See post below.