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[–]aNonSapient 6ポイント7ポイント  (13子コメント)

Context?

[–]monkey-see-doggy-do[S] 14ポイント15ポイント  (9子コメント)

Two generations of people who collectively had to choose whether to be Nazi victims or victim Nazis. Apparently there is not other way.

[–]aNonSapient 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

Oh no, I mean, why were so many armed men focused on a single woman like that, and obviously terrified.

It can't be just a squad of soldiers deciding to kill here for no reason ( real or imagined). The Palestine situation is disgusting, but the soldiers/police wouldn't be acting that way if something off hadn't happened.

I'm wondering what happened in the few minutes leading up to this.

[–]SweatyBollocks 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It can't be just a squad of soldiers deciding to kill here for no reason ( real or imagined). The Palestine situation is disgusting, but the soldiers/police wouldn't be acting that way if something off hadn't happened.

Didn't Israel bomb some kids playing on a beach last year?

[–]blankslatetheory 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's assuming that the IDF is rational. Which it is not.

[–]aNonSapient 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's assuming that the IDF is rational.

No, no, see it isn't.

Watch the lady closest to the camera.

They're scared.

Why?

[–]PrivilegeCheckmate 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Because it could be anyone. They've pushed their enemies so hard that they're all pretty close to snapping. And they themselves are trained into fear, paranoia and hyper-vigilance.

[–]aNonSapient 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dont disagree on any of that. just saying that a trigger would have had to happen. Something more (if only slightly more) than being Palestinian.

[–]Thementalrapist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Did the lady have a bomb or something? Why didn't she comply? What the hell is going on?

[–]Goonia 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Only context I could imagine is she was a suspected suicide bomber perhaps?

[–]ono_lol 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

I doubt you would stand so close to a suspected suicide bomber..

[–]CUNTRY 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

that's the only scenario where this shooting would be justified (from what I saw in that video).

[–]The_Free_Marketeer 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seeing as how they train a lot of American police this seems like an instruction video. "how to publicly execute your enemy and look fearful while doing it for maximum ambiguity and minimal persecution"

[–]iamnotfromtexas90 6ポイント7ポイント  (18子コメント)

Context is missing, she tried stabbing a soldier in the neck and wouldn't drop the knife. WTF do you want to cops to do? They shot her and took her to the hospital where she was treated. Are you kidding with this inflammatory headline? She's a live for god's sake.

[–]Velcrom_the_Clingy 6ポイント7ポイント  (14子コメント)

Allegedly tried stabbing a soldier. Other allegations said she might have been holding a phone. The Jerusalem Post is calling her a "terrorist", saying she's one of many this month? It's almost laughable, but it's more scary. This is the way they justify shooting Palestinians. They turn it around to make it seem as though they are victims in self-defense. It's horrific. I would like to see any evidence that she's a terrorist, because it sure isn't in ANY of the videos.

[–]Velcrom_the_Clingy 2ポイント3ポイント  (13子コメント)

As reported in RT news, there is no context here, just allegations, and the fact that she may have been holding a knife warrents no justification with so many large men able to easily disarm her if they wanted to. Especially after her hands were up.

[–]elwombat 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

Trying to disarm someone that has a knife will get you stabbed literally 100% of the time. Not Figuratively. Literally.

[–]IronMeltsinmyHands 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Eat a dick. Not figuratively. Literally.

[–]Velcrom_the_Clingy 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're trying to argue that if a woman is wielding a knife, even if she is surrounded by a dozen soldiers armed with automatic rifles, they have NO CHOICE but to gun her down. How well do you think that would fly in any western democracy?

[–]elwombat 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

How do the guns help them disarm her?

[–]Velcrom_the_Clingy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When a person is surrounded by people pointing loaded guns at them, they tend to cooperate quite well. Just as this woman did, based on evidence in all the videos.

[–]juloxx 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

not if you have a gun

[–]ThePedanticCynic 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

Guns aren't shields, they're threats of violence. In order to physically disarm someone of a knife, without shooting them, you need to put your gun down.

But you're right. If you have a gun you can get someone to drop a knife by shooting them.

[–]elwombat -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

You have to shoot them execution style or it wont work.

[–]ThePedanticCynic 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

By 'them' i assume you mean anyone who doesn't tow the company line.

You're in the wrong sub for people who believe obeying authority, and thus those who control the guns, is the correct course of action.

[–]elwombat 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What? What company? Who said anything about obeying? Gun Control? WHAT? It was a joke.

You might actually be crazy.

[–]lateral_us 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Tried stabbing is far and away from actual assault until there's evidence she had a knife and lunged at an officer. From the video it appears a woman was surrounded by multiple armed men and then shot. There is no indication their lives were even in danger

[–]Hazel-Rah 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know what you are trying to say, but assault =/= battery. Holding a knife in a threatening way without moving or attacking is legally assault, battery is when you make physical contact

[–]ParanoidPete 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

taser? anyone?

[–]BirdSkull 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

If this was ISIS farting in the general direction of a white person it'd be on the front page and all over the news with people crying over the injustice.

[–]BillionaireBob -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, yes. Because ISIS kills white people all the time over there.

[–]Heartless_level -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

And where is the conspiracy here?

[–]Goonia -3ポイント-2ポイント  (5子コメント)

I agree, this sub is slowly turning into r/anti-israel. As much as I disagree with the treatment of the Palestinians, continually posting anti-israeli links with little or no conspiracy, just makes the sub appear less credible.

[–]lateral_us 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Except that there is plenty of connections/conspiracy material. But no, its all just a bunch of skinhead neo Nazis and their racist bullshit. Couldn't have any shred of truth to it. Israel, as always is a victim we must protect. If anyone disagrees they are antisemitic

[–]Outofmany 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

The conspiracy is the continued US support for Israel. Duh. Actually you can safely drop the victim status because we really don't care about Israel. We want our government to merely reflect our wishes. Go back to Israel and stop fucking with us.

[–]HulaguKan -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Slowly turning"?

This place has been ant-Israel and anti-Jew for as long as I can remember.

[–]lateral_us 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, everyone is picking on the Jews. No Jewish/Zionist person has ever committed any inhuman act or war crime. We should all praise Israel for showing us the light. Amen

[–]HulaguKan 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

"False equivalence"

Google it.

[–]alexmtl -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

So she's holding a knife and they ask her to drop it repeatedly, she does not, they shoot her in the leg and take her to the hospital... Why is this a conspiracy?

[–]deadendsidestreet -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

What in the fuck is a matter with these people..every day the public is starting to realize the Israeli state is the problem I refuse to spell their name correctly because they are a inhumane state...they really are...they steal land from people and kill for no reason and then cry like babies when someone throws a rock.At them....FUCK ISREAL

[–]tamirvs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Kill for no reason? Do you even try to learn more facts other than reading the headlines in this subreddit? So stabbing Israeli people is fine, they have a reason, but shooting the terrorist (or peace activist in your imaginary world) is wrong?

[–]deadendsidestreet -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I really wish Iran bombs the fuck out of the Jews...

[–]shodanx -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

One of them dropped his mag like

Ah.. silly humans, I can't wait until they go extinct.