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The Left's scare tactics... (imgur.com)

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[–]JustWanderfulLibertarian Conservative 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

World savers have always had an unspoken motive.

H.L. Mencken saw the self-appointed saviors for what they were almost a century ago, when he said:

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."

[–]TitFuckJoe 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm in my 40's. When I was a kid, I remember them saying there would no gas left by the year 2000. Lying is just part of liberals' every day lexicon.

[–]optionhome 23ポイント24ポイント  (23子コメント)

If the lying liberal media would report even 10% of the global warming nonsense predictions everyone would be laughing at them.

The fact that they still get away with their blatant lies is really a testament to how incredibly stupidity the majority of our fellow citizens are.

[–]phondeuxLibertarian Conservative 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's not that they're lying, it's that they're lazy and operate under a pecking order of 'authority of knowledge'.

What I'm saying is that the media really don't have time (or possibly the ability or inclination) to investigate any of these claims. As long as the person claiming them has an advanced academic degree the news outlets will just regurgitate them without a critical eye or glance.

[–]under_armpit 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

As well as most of Reddit.

[–]TheEarlOfBaconfield 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Without media support Hillary would be a zero.

[–]pensky_material 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree and think the same of the Hillary candidacy.

[–]Greg-2012 0ポイント1ポイント  (17子コメント)

I'm not a climatologist and I'm no fan of Al Gore but IMO releasing CO2 that was sequestered over billions of years can not possibly be good.

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (15子コメント)

Why?

[–]Greg-2012 4ポイント5ポイント  (12子コメント)

My guess would be it causes a global imbalance. How would releasing that much CO2 in a short time period be good?

[–]Jice151 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

It could help trees?

[–]Greg-2012 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Trees and plants can only absorb so much. What happens to the rest?

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You write a check to Obama.

[–]murmsModerate -1ポイント0ポイント  (23子コメント)

I'll just leave this here.

[–]JustWanderfulLibertarian Conservative 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dan Rather, is that you?

[–]jeraggie 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

And I'll leave this one

[–]WhoWatchesTheWatcher 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

The extent has increased, but the volume has decreased.

Why? Because the antarctic is not like the arctic. It is built on land, and the ice is a higher percentage of fresh water ice. This melts and freezes at a different temp. The salt water is still liquid, but cold enough to refreeze the melting "pure" ice when they collide.

This means the fresh water ice melts, some is lost (overall volume goes down) but as it spreads out it refreezes on the edges.

Even if you ignore that though and just look at area increase (not volume) the Arctic's losses are much greater than the Antarctic's gains.

[–]kriegson 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'll just leave this here

Also carbon vs global sea ice for an interesting correlation (or lack thereof).

[–]murmsModerate -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

What are you trying to point out? That ice coverage gets smaller in the summer and larger in the winter?

Or are you showing the year-on-year decline of ice coverage over a 5 year period? Because if that's the case I felt like my graphic provides a clearer picture of that.

[–]kriegson 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

First of all it should be fairly obvious what I'm pointing out considering both graphs come from the same source. Though I doubt you're even aware of what it entails considering you probably plucked it from some blog or another.

Starting the record at the end of a cold period (70's) is quite disingenuous. Why not start from the 40's or 30's? Secondly, as you can see global sea ice has remained relatively consistent. Why is that?
Record levels of ice in the antarctic.

Cherry picking a year and region just to try and push your point of scare tactics with a snide "I'll just leave this here."? Tsk tsk. Also worth noting sea level has remained relatively consistent in a rise of about 3.3mm per century IE whatever melts off the arctic isn't changing much.

So then, what was your point with your scary "I'll just leave this here" graph?

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] -5ポイント-4ポイント  (16子コメント)

Arctic ice 'grew by a third' after cool summer in 2013

[–]chloboe 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

It seems as though you only read the title. The article, as well as the figure above disprove the point you're trying to make. This is from your article: "The long-term trend of the ice volume is downwards and the long-term trend of the temperatures in the Arctic is upwards and this finding doesn't give us any reason to disbelieve that - as far as we can tell it's just one anomalous year."

[–]murmsModerate -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

"...But they say 2013 was a one-off and that climate change will continue to shrink the ice in the decades ahead."

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

"They" say a lot of things.

[–]MacheteSanta 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Libtard magnet alert

[–]chabanaisStronger than derp.[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's like lemmings running off a cliff!

[–]graham0025 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

When I was I grade school they had speakers come to tell us all garbage dumps would be full by the year 2000