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[–]farmguy68-1 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

Remember...he is an attorney. That should explain a lot of things.

[–]OrangeLlamaSpencer 63ポイント64ポイント  (1子コメント)

Welcome to /r/survivor! You'll fit right in.

[–]FrancesquaKass[S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you orange <3

[–]treple13Jenn 28ポイント29ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally I think the "perfection" storyline Savage is getting is so over-the-top it is hilarious.

[–]lindaseton 42ポイント43ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a pompous ass. ( in Sandra voice)

[–]lbblurKeith 33ポイント34ポイント  (3子コメント)

I like him, he seems like a dad

[–]PM_ME_ZETTAI_RYOUIKIKass 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

Heh, get a load of this guy, not having daddy issues in the 21st century.

[–]dalith911Tyson 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

nice username, does it work?

[–]PM_ME_ZETTAI_RYOUIKIKass 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not really, but you can change that. ;*

[–]spokentribes19Wiglesworth 55ポイント56ポイント  (7子コメント)

Unpopular opinion, but I agreed with Savage about Stephen in a very fundamental way. I think he went typical Savage and went a little overboard, but I too get irritated when people make everything about the game and can't appreciate a genuine human moment. It feels so slimy.

[–]nakothenachoFishbach 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keep in mind it is pretty easy to be paranoid out there especially when you're on the bottom

[–]nyancat23Peih-Gee 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah thats honestly my opinion although he didnt talk about it in the best way, I do agree

[–]conundrumbombsAbi-Maria 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

Maybe that's just the edit?

We have definitely seen Fishbach hanging out in the hammock and stuff, too. I highly doubt that he's constantly in game-mode. They probably cherry pick those moments to frame Savage's narrative of their camp life.

Edit: can someone please explain to me why I am being downvoted for suggesting that the edit does not allow us to see all of the information? I thought that was a very common opinion in these parts.

[–]KidniftyKeith 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here's the problem. Stephen in all of his years on Know it Alls has said that the edit is cannon and that we shouldn't take what people say in the post interviews as what really happened.

I don't know why you're getting downvoted because you're probably right, I just think it's funny how the guy who always says what we see is what happened, is now the subject of selective editing.

[–]KidniftyKeith 11ポイント12ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fan Fiiiictioooonnnnnnn 🎶

[–]Murray41Penner 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a story teller it's what I do

[–]Agent-000Savage 51ポイント52ポイント  (27子コメント)

He is very much like a football coach or a man's man, and I can understand that people don't mesh with that kind of personality, but I have a feeling that most of the distaste for Savage stems from the fact that he didn't speak highly of Stephen.

[–]TheGreatMoistOneVarner 30ポイント31ポイント  (3子コメント)

He's not at all, Keith is a man's man, that dude is basically the stereotype of a veteran civilian, he's lived off coffee and 5am work starts for 30 years. Savage is that smug office worker who the vast majority of everyday people find to be arrogant, self centered and pushy. The only above average manly qualities the guy has is that he's clearly able to diet right and keep a healthy workout, he's not very big in muscle factors so its very doubtful he hits the weights hard. I dont hate savage, he's just not the type of guy i can relate to.

[–]PsyduckisnotaduckWiglesworth 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Keith is a perfect model of decent masculinity. <3

[–]Agent-000Savage 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's not really the definition at all. It's about being very popular and at ease, more with men than with women. Perhaps you thought I meant an everyman?

[–]bigbigbrotherfanKeith 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He seems like he would be Ted Mosby's boss at the architecture firm. A smug and very brash guy. Actually, he sort of looks like Bryan Cranston now that I think about it...

[–]TomBombomb 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

I dunno. I actually really disliked Andrew in Pearl Islands as well. I've liked my fair share of "alpha male man's man" players. I liked Jeremy in San Juan del Sur and I like him a lot in Cambodia as well. I like Malcolm. I have nothing against dominate physical players. I also have no problem with him targeting Stephen. Everyone is fair game.

I just think he behaves like an asshole and sometimes has no idea that he's being an asshole.

[–]Agent-000Savage 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ok, from the viewer's standpoint, I see none of that. I see nothing but members of former Bayon appreciating his company and saying he's a good person. The only upset about this guy is on the internet, where there are lots of Fishbach fans.

[–]TomBombomb 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, I think Bayon is buying it and good for him. I'm saying from my perspective some of his comments rub me the wrong way. The last episode he was targeting Jeff, who I like and is my winner pick, but it was the first time I actually felt comfortable with him.

I think he's hard headed and makes decisions that are quick and permanent, a style of play that got him booted the first time he played.

[–]Agent-000Savage 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

That is undoubtedly how he plays. However, that kind of confidence seemed to be the final push to divide an alliance of 4.

[–]TomBombomb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I give more credit to Tasha for that than Andrew. I mean, editing is everything, but what we saw was Savage feeling pretty insecure with the twist and Tasha deciding she wasn't dead in the water. Don't get me wrong, they both played well. They were, however, buoyed by erratic game play from Abi-Maria, Jeff, and to an extent Peih-Gee.

[–]Reinhart3Fishbach 6ポイント7ポイント  (7子コメント)

but I have a feeling that most of the distaste for Savage stems from the fact that he didn't speak highly of Stephen.

No, I don't think this is true at all. A lot of people here disliked Savage before Second Chances happened. People say they dislike Savage, and give reasons, and it just happens that he acted the EXACT same way in Pearl Islands. He was a dickhead in PI and he's a dickhead in Second Chances. Who would have thought?

[–]Agent-000Savage 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Being a dickhead because of what? Ryan Shoulders? The game is about eliminating people. Eliminating a weak person is not being a dickhead, it's the game.

[–]Slicer37Kimmi 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

lol you clearly don't get it. It's the smugness and the self-righteousness and his attitude.

[–]Agent-000Savage -2ポイント-1ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's a pretty lame way to isolate my opinion. We're both watching the same show, there's really nothing to "get" that I'm failing to pick up on.

[–]Slicer37Kimmi 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

you're failing to understand the reasoning toward why people dislike savage, and instead attributing it to something not related (eliminating ryan shoulders)

[–]Agent-000Savage -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I was looking for a reason for Savage being a dickhead. All you've provided is "lol you don't get it."

[–]Slicer37Kimmi 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

people have listed many pieces of evidence in this thread alone regarding savage being a dickhead.

If you have said "Savage isn't a dickhead because x y z" I wouldn't have commented. but you're just attributing it to a reasoning no one has used

[–]Agent-000Savage 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And simply I just find it as nitpicking to disguise the fact that the majority doesn't like him because he disliked Stephen and voted out PG. But to each their own.

[–]BeepImaJeep2015 19ポイント20ポイント  (7子コメント)

No. An example of a man's man is Tom Westman. I think the word you are looking for to describe Savage is douchewaffle.

[–]Agent-000Savage 24ポイント25ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alright big guy

[–]DocCyane 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know what I'm having for breakfast.

[–]ghostlywillacatherKimmi 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, he came across as a bit of a sanctimonious prick on his first season, too.

[–]DantheManFoleySavage -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

not only his dislike of stephen, but people don't like to see others do well (basic human psychology) in addition to him just being an honest person who gives others his truth bluntly.

[–]mygoodnessjoshua 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

He is all these things and more. I am surprised how immediate my dislike toward him returned since PI.

The thing with Savage that is probably what shows his weaknesses and immaturity is his incessant need to have his loyal group of friends or peers, but to always have an enemy or an inferior person in his life to belittle. It was Lil and Skinny Ryan in PI and its Stephen in SC so far. Living your life always needing to have an enemy is such a foolhardy and draining technique, and in Survivor it makes for bad gameplay (for the most part).

He is the most self entitled player I've seen aside from Ozzy.

IM SORRY.

[–]UtopianComplexKass 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the edit is not trying to hide this side of him at all. I think it is giving you enough to like him if you are that kind of person, but I think the editors think he is kind of a D-Bag as well. He is over the top

[–]Reset108Wiglesworth 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

I liked him in Pearl Islands and was excited to see him back again, but so far at least he's pretty low on the list of people I'm rooting for.

[–]Ser-Jorah-MormontSavage 24ポイント25ポイント  (12子コメント)

I really like him. I can see how some people could be rubbed the wrong way by his attitude at times, but IMO he's a pretty stand up guy.

[–]SirGallantLionheartAbi-Maria 27ポイント28ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think most people here hate him because he's against stephen (in the game) who they see as a fellow nerd. But he has a good reason to be against him. Stephen put himself on the outs and was even silly enough to ruin Jeremy crying over his family by trying to raise suspicion.

[–]At_the_RoundhouseWentworth 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't hate him because of the Stephen thing. Savage just rubs me the wrong way because he reminds me of smug, douchey guys I've encountered in the NYC dating scene. There's a sense of entitlement there that's pretty obnoxious. OP nailed it with "The fact he lost a gameshow 15 years ago is the ONLY demon that's tormented his existence? And I'm meant to feel empathy for this twonk??"

[–]GottaGetToItKelly 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

And here I was hoping you two would duel

[–]Reinhart3Fishbach 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think most people here hate him because he's against stephen (in the game) who they see as a fellow nerd.

People disliked Savage in PI as well for the exact same reasons.

[–]for_death_and_ruinSavage 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

There are dozens of us

[–]deshendeSpencer 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Upvote for all of the Savage fans!

[–]TheDarkShepardTasha 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've hated him since Pearl Islands. He's a complete douche to those who aren't good enough for him. Stephen, Skinny Ryan, Lil etc.

[–]jazzcoderFishbach 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

He actually just talks smack to the camera, not in person. Stephen tweeted that Savage was nothing but nice to him in person.

[–]fffireyWoo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He seems like he's chilled out a bit since PI. I haaaated him the first time around, and didnt vote for him once, but I'm enjoying him so far this season.

[–]ThatGuyfromthepartyColby Donaldson 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same, loved him in PI and still love him here.

[–]survivorfanbilf 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cause he is unpleasant

[–]DieJerksSavage 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally i am a huge fan of Big Steve. Also i did not like Savage during Pearl Islands. However when i listened to the RHAP second chance interview with Savage i was turned around on him, he came off as nice guy. While watching this season i find that both Savage and Big Steve have moments where they come off as really likable and they both have moments where they come off as unlikable. So basically what i am trying to say is judging somebody purely by the edit they are given on a reality TV show is pointless. Judge the character you see on TV but don't bother judging the person.

[–]GhostBustor 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like Savage, he's got a charm and he wants to play, and play hard. After seeing a lot of recruits come and go in the past 10 seasons... hes fresh. He's an attorney and knows what to say. He's already said hes a lucky man with his job and family, maybe Survivor is his dream. After seeing so many people get on the show twice, thrice and four times, I can see why he would be so anxious to get a second chance. I would have wanted him back for All-Stars 1.

[–]KidniftyKeith 13ポイント14ポイント  (6子コメント)

Savage>>>>>Stephen

[–]Agent-000Savage 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

I support the shit out of that

[–]for_death_and_ruinSavage -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't get why people like Stephen. I didn't watch Tocantins but was he different? Because so far he's just weird.

[–]Reinhart3Fishbach 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't get why people like Stephen.

I didn't watch Tocantins

nice my man

[–]philerdKeith 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because people that listen to RHAP that have been listening to him and Rob for a long time are endeared to him. If you don't listen to KIA then you probably don't share the same love for the Fish as some of us do.

[–]TylerPerryComoMonica 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He wasn't as "on" in Tocantins. I think he's taken some lessons from Cochran.

[–]Zenith_and_QuasarSavage[🍰] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like both. This is such a great cast that there's always been at least one person I like on each side of any alliance.

[–]ronscotKass 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree. I hope he is booted soon. I want to see him cry about that.

[–]ChipSkylarkDudeSavage 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well maybe I find you unpleasant. What you think about that!?!? HUH! Come at me bro. Come. At. Me. Sis!

[–]shutupnobullmanAbi-Maria 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

What Savage said was not in a foul manner, it was standard survivor confessional talk. People complaining and maligning Savage for that comment are just whiny Fishbach fans who can't take it.

[–]Nenny77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Someones mad peigh gee is gone lol

[–]niqqaswaqTerry 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Savage is there as a part of my favourite four (was five just until yesterday, PG)

[–]MissSurvivorVarner 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eliza said it best- Fuck Andrew Savage!

[–]Raz0rzEdgePeih-Gee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't really have strong feelings about the guy either way. He does seem to take himself a bit too seriously, though.

[–]chiaestevezKeith 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Also don't forget, his top vote-getting tactic was putting ads on the voting pages themselves. He's a real cool guy.

[–]diemunkiesdieKelley 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think I missed it, what did Savage say about Stephen?

Also have we seen pictures of this wife?

[–]GottaGetToItKelly 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

He said that everyone else was sad and crying about Andrews love for his wife. And Jeremy walked away to cry. Stephen assumed he was leaving to look for an idol. Andrew said something implying Stephen was soulless.

[–]as1992Monica -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a massive prick. He's the kind of person that thinks he's entitled to having everything go his way in life, and when it doesn't (like pearl islands) he whinges and bitches about it for years and years whereas most normal people just get over it.

The worst thing is that he's getting a good edit, which means he'll probably go far. Don't know if I can stand having him on my tv beyond the merge.