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Zazen instructions. (self.zen)

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As the title says I want to practice zazen and when I searched on YouTube different techniques were given. What is the right technique for zazen?

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[–]typondale 5ポイント6ポイント  (5子コメント)

There isn't a right technique.Don't get caught up on this. I remember when I used to do zazen I was so worried I was doing it wrong.

If you're interested in this path, just sit down. You know about using a cushion and facing the wall right? Put your hands in your lap, tuck your chin to your chest, and follow you breath.

Some days are going to be better than others. Once in a while your mind will quiet completely and you'll feel euphoric. Most of the time it'll be a struggle.

But to be honest, a lot of people here don't believe that zazen is the right way to see your true nature. That's why you'll get some responses you weren't expecting. Make up your own mind tho.

[–]anotherjunkie 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Here's something I've wondered: you mention sitting toward the wall, so I assume you meditate with your eyes open. Why is that? Is there a reason in the doctrine? Is it just generally agreed upon? I've read many times to sit with your eyes open, but my mind is much more tranquil with my eyes closed.

[–]sirwolfThe observer 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can meditate with your eyes open or closed, whichever works for you. Yoiu can look toward a wall, the ocean, or a forest.

Sit comfortably, in the most stable position you can achieve.

Follow your breath.

When you have a thought, hear something of feel something, note it.

The point is NOT to stop feeling hearing, thinking, the point is to bring the mind back to the focus object.

If you are wondering if you are doing it right, you are.

Here is a very new book that I recommend to anyone starting ut meditating The Mindful Geek.

It will give you a buttload of info without all the religious stuff. You can fill in the religion later if you like.

[–]typondale 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not sure. So you dont fall asleep i guess.

[–]dooj88 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

exactly. i've got my own dirt to have fun with. why should i worry about what's going on with yours and try to copy it?

[–]DaarioNuharisindependent 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Order pizza. Wait. Zazen.

[–]songhill 6ポイント7ポイント  (48子コメント)

Zazen or a form of it is taught in virtually all Buddhism tranditions. In Zen this is one of the specific instructions:

While still alive, be therefore assiduous in practising Dhyana. The practice consists in abandonments. ‘The abandonment of what?’ you may ask. Abandon your four elements (bhuta), abandon your five aggregates (skandha), abandon all the workings of your relative consciousness (karmavijnana), which you have been cherishing since eternity; retire within your inner being and see into the reason of it. As your self-reflection grows deeper and deeper, the moment will surely come upon you when the spiritual flower will suddenly burst into bloom, illuminating the entire universe. The experience is incommunicable, though you yourselves know perfectly well what it is. ~ Sixin Wuxin 死心悟新 (1044–1115)

[–]AbbieSage 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sit and do nothing and become comfortable with doing nothing. You can't really do some elaborate and choreographed procedure with meditation. It's sitting quietly doing nothing.

[–]MaxNanasy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

IDK about zazen, but some forms of meditation are more elaborate (e.g. the 16-step Anapanasati, which Buddha said could lead to liberation as a sole practice)

[–]yoga_throw 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sit on a cushion with your legs crossed. Rest your hands in your lap or on your knees. Rest your gaze at the floor a meter in front of you. Observe your breath. When thoughts arise let them go and return to observing the breath.

If new to meditation do this for 10 minutes twice a day. Every month, add ten more minutes to each sit until you're sitting for two hours per day. At that point you can add a third hour when you feel ready and desirous for it.

[–]cooye8Aed 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have found vipassana meditation to be good preparation for zazen. The important thing is the emphasis on learning to observe (not control or suppress) thoughts and sensations.

[–]ewk -3ポイント-2ポイント  (18子コメント)

Since Zazzen is a religious practice for Soto Buddhism, you should find a church to go to and ask there.

Zen Masters don't recommend practices generally and while several Zen Masters make fun of sitting meditation there remains a large Buddhist evangelical movement in the US that teaches primarily Zazen prayer-mediation and calls itself "Zen" in order to promote the religion to people who don't know any better.

[–]yoga_throw 2ポイント3ポイント  (17子コメント)

Zen masters teach zazen. Read Zen: Tradition and Transition edited by Kenneth Graft. Most of the essays in the book address the importance of zazen in ancient and present day zen practice.

[–]ewk -2ポイント-1ポイント  (16子コメント)

You mean read books by people who aren't Zen Masters to find out what Zen Masters teach?

Awkward. It's like you are from a church and got no edu-cation.

Here: http://www.reddit.com/r/zen/wiki/lineagetexts

Try to keep your faith while studying the people that you claim to have faith in.

Zen Masters don't offer Zazen instructions.

Read a book.

[–]yoga_throw 1ポイント2ポイント  (13子コメント)

I don't respond to copypasta.

[–]zen_timezpress -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

get a job

[–]ewk -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who's afraid of a paperback book?

[–]vastlytiny 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are all good. Pick the one you like.