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[–]TorinoCobra070 262ポイント263ポイント  (150子コメント)

Okay, not to be distasteful or crude, but I am moderately curious what price they put on a human life.

[–]HopelessRomance4Life 331ポイント332ポイント  (21子コメント)

I know. I hate it when there aren't prices in the ad.

[–]MegaSwampbert 151ポイント152ポイント  (18子コメント)

I think humans are one of those things where if you have to ask, then you can't afford it.

[–]Rooonaldooo99 146ポイント147ポイント  (10子コメント)

For everything else, there's Masters Card.

[–]abcdthc 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

slaves were pretty expensive. I mean not only the initial cost up front, but you had too feed and house them as well.

Only the rich elite really owned slaves like this. Others had indentured servants. If you were going to buy slaves at an auction, you had money. (usually 250-400 a head depending on quality, adjusted for inflation thats roughly 15-20K.)

Buying a slave is like buying a car, you dont own many unless you are reallllyyyy rich.

Source: I time travel.

[–]TheBeardedMarxist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah...slaves were very expensive.

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    [–]PolarDorsai 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But they hook you with that pre-order bonus. Half down in cash or produce...GOD DAMN!

    [–]FekketCantenel 99ポイント100ポイント  (75子コメント)

    Did some googling and found this in-depth essay.

    As we will explain below, at the time the South seceded from the Union, the purchase of a single slave represented as much as $130,000 and more in today's prices.

    [–]agrajagthemighty 95ポイント96ポイント  (68子コメント)

    Til buying one slave is about the same as paying someone minimum wage for 8hr/day every day for about 6 years

    [–]probablyredundantant 157ポイント158ポイント  (59子コメント)

    *Except paying the wage to a third party instead of the person that did the work.

    [–]seenoeval 112ポイント113ポイント  (57子コメント)

    Some people believe slavery was successfully "ended" because people in power figured out it was much easier to pay slaves a pittance and have them house and feed themselves with the illusion of freedom.

    Not only would you pay $130,000 in today's money for a slave, you must house, feed and provide medical care to them just like a farmer does with his flock.

    Today slavery is even cheaper when you factor in migrant farm workers and illegals at only a few dollars an hour for their slave labor.

    [–]Pao_Did_NothingWrong 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Was-Mart gets four slaves for the price of one these days, and has the government subsidize their housing and feeding and watering!

    [–]Qweniden 77ポイント78ポイント  (38子コメント)

    Some people believe slavery was successfully "ended" because people in power figured out it was much easier to pay slaves a pittance and have them house and feed themselves with the illusion of freedom.

    I think there may have been some sort of war too

    [–]vervurax 23ポイント24ポイント  (5子コメント)

    source?

    [–]lightcloud5 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812

    [–]Not_An_Ambulance 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Read "Empire of Cotton" by Sven Beckert a while ago. It's a conclusion one could reach from reading that book. Slavery only makes sense when you have consistent labor needs. As the economy speeds up you have more dynamic needs.

    Btw, the book was really interesting as the history of cotton is really a story of the industrial revolution and international trade. Also, gave me some insights on the culture of India I had not realized before.

    [–]Fozee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's some people, source checks out.

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      [–]3kindsofsalt 41ポイント42ポイント  (17子コメント)

      Most other developed nations abolished slavery without a war.

      [–]BellyFullOfSwans 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

      And most of those nations fought a hundred wars before the US was even a twinkle in Baby Jesus' bright blue eyes, for causes far more trivial.

      [–]Chucctastic 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

      Good for them, I heard that's the sort of achievement they can get trophies for.

      [–]Qweniden 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yeah. And?

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        [–]senbei616 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

        Didn't you know? The war of northern aggression was about states rights not slavery.

        [–]THERES_A_MAN_HERE 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

        There is a free lecture about this on The Great Courses I recently listened to. Pretty interesting!

        By this, I mean the influence slavery had on the start of the Civil War.

        [–]mongo_lloyd 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

        The state's right to own slaves

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            [–]Arclite83 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

            Sad but true. And it's not an absolute: I have a buddy who runs a small company and we were discussing things like that: he's hired a nice girl to do some of the side work and it's very good because "I can make her week's pay in just a few hours". It sucks but it's a reality of how these things grow and evolve.

            And it's not like what he does is easy. People get fixated on the crazy salaries for CEOs, but running a company successfully is extremely hard to do right, big or small.

            [–]cdk_aegir 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

            he's hired a nice girl to do some of the side work

            I bet he has. A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat!

            [–]thin_blue_line_ww 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            I was sitting at a coffee shop working when a couple of sales people came in and were discussing tactics. Their best idea was to offer and "internship" the prettiest college-aged woman they could find. They would have her go into the office first and start a little conversation, and a few minutes later these parasites would walk in and "seal the deal." When one of them asked how much they would pay the person for the internship the other responded it would be non-paying because he didn't want to share any commission.

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              [–]_Dans_ 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Yup. To keep the illusion of the $3 hamburger, we have indentured servitude - except this time with no pesky 7 year maximum.

              Slaughterhouses in the midwest, tomato farms in Florida, migrant pickers everywhere; sheetrock hangers, tilers, and framers in the sunbelt.

              They are shadow people, and the Chamber of Commerce loves the resulting dirt wages - for the pickers themselves, and the slightly-higher-than-dirt-wages that are depressed for lower class citizens.

              [–]Nobody_is_on_reddit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Well that's not the exact reason it was ended. But it was in fact one way the South was placated after losing their slaves after the civil war. They did everything they could to institute economic or "wage slavery" on black workers who had no choice but to continue working in their fields. Even if you were free your life could still be extremely shitty.

              [–]randyofthenorth 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Any source on that first claim?

              [–]MBArceus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              /r/LateStageCapitalism

              [–]Walking_billboard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I don't know the economics of owning a plantation (although that would be interesting) this math doesn't include the fact that the slave children also became property for "free" essentially.

              [–]_beast__ 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Except those people were slaves for life? $130,000 plus bed and breakfast for labor for 20+ years isn't that bad. Plus you owned any offspring.

              Don't get me wrong, wages are abysmal in America and most less-developed areas but it's not as cheap to the employer as straight slavery.

              [–]seenoeval 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Incorrect, the average life expectancy of slaves in that time was late twenties to early thirties.

              Children are pretty useless for a number of years when it comes to labor.

              I'm not at all saying this was some perfect conspiracy, a lot of the South wanted to keep slavery the way it was, people are misunderstanding my point, but it was discovered that there was a far better system for cheap labor and we have that system today.

              [–]metakek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Slaves in Rome made money and could eventually buy their freedom, so I mean... you can be paid and still be a slave.

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                [–]agrajagthemighty 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Also yes.

                [–]FekketCantenel 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                You could buy three brand-new tractors for that much! Or more specialized equipment. And maintenance is way cheaper than room/board/security. Man, we moan about mechanization stealing jobs, but on the bright side, it's made human slavery look downright absurd from a cost perspective.

                [–]Monstertruck_Gnar 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

                they were the brand new tractors.

                [–]agrajagthemighty 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Exactly. Why make tractors cheaper if you have a system in place already? I mean, long-term, tractors are a better investment, but who thinks long term?

                [–]Monstertruck_Gnar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Well not to be crude, but slaves usually had multiple children which were the property of the owner. I think this has been unwritten law since the Egyptian times. Your tractor doesn't make little tractors.

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                  [–]Asddsa76 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  And then you have to provide them with food and shelter.

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                    [–]SirChumpton 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Cheaper to spawn offspring and raise them to slavery if you can plan ahead and have time to wait. It's not like you'd have to pay for education or such. Still, It's all now now now, hence the premium.

                    [–]StressOverStrain 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    The South seceded in 1861, 80 years after the date of this ad. I'm betting prices had risen quite a bit since the slave trade stopped and the only trade was between slaves already in America.

                    [–]ShadowChief3 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    This is shockingly more then I expected. I expected like 25-30k max.

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                      [–]Nizzler 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

                      The ad is 230 years old, I'm pretty sure they'd be sold out by now anyway

                      [–]HopelessRomance4Life 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Probably expired too.

                      [–]SomeVelvetWarning 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Shit... and I had just come across a coupon, too.

                      [–]sindustrial777 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Gives black friday a whole new meaning

                      [–]UlyssesSKrunk 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I'll stay optimistic. Maybe there are a few left and they'd let them go for cheap just to clear out the inventory.

                      [–]bannedfromphotograph 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      'bout $7 an hour

                      [–]I_Dont_Own_A_Cat 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      US slave markets were typically auctions. That is likely the case here, since the ad described a sale "opening" at 10 a.m.

                      [–]aggieboy12 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I mean, they were generally sold at auction, so prices were vastly dependant on certain factors

                      [–]Ternial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      2/3rds of a white slave.

                      [–]carl2k1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I think they bid on them and the slaves go to the highest bidder

                      [–]recalcitrantJester 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      what price they put on a human life

                      I think you're approaching this the wrong way. What the slavers would consider "the price of a human life" and the price of some "fine, stout negroes" would've probably been different.

                      [–]An_Image_Of_Mohammed 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      This wasn't a price "on a human life".

                      This was a price for servants slaves. They regarded these people as objects and property. Valuable only for the services they could perform while relatively healthy.

                      [–]dysangel 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I think there's a key difference between servants and slaves, in that servants are employed rather than owned.

                      [–]HoneyBucketsOfOats 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Something something tree fiddy

                      [–]PinguruLee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Obviously not 13.50 dollars.

                      [–]TiberiCorneli 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Prices varied, of course, based on condition, age, what year it was, etc. but slaves basically went for the equivalent of a car today. In 1850, a field slave in his prime went for around $1200 on average (about $35.5k in 2015). I don't know of pricing prior to the 1840s, but it would've been similarly expensive when you remember to account for inflation. In fact, if we keep the 2015 value the same, the inflation calculator I'm using tells me it would've been more expensive in 1784 dollars (relative to the 1850 price), at $1,591.

                      [–]mtrebor 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I'll put my thought under this possibly distasteful or crude section, but I promise it's of pure curiosity: I'm curious what a "typical" life of a slave was like. We've all seen movies, are they accurate and overall representative? Aside from the obvious lack of freedom, was physical abuse the norm?

                      [–]HalfKneegrow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      There are many books on the subject.

                      Start with the autobiography of Frederick Douglass. It's a short read, only about 100 pages.

                      [–]methamp 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      what price they put on a human life

                      Adjusted for inflation.

                      [–]MetalsDeadAndSoAmI 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Probably too high, I mean, one of them is smoking, that's terrible for labor.

                      [–]PhilBlumburtt 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Not sure about prices then, but current price is about $10,000,000

                      [–]reddelicious77 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      IIRC, it was generally an auction style of sale...

                      ie- in-person E-Bay of the 18th century

                      [–]LightGallons 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      I did some research a while back and after adjusting for inflation based on what could be purchased at the time I found that people were expensive between 50,000 and 100,000 dollars today. So I'm always suprised at how poorly people claim slaves were treated it doesn't make sense to beat a 75,000 dollar asset

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                        [–]RSX1327 179ポイント180ポイント  (50子コメント)

                        So those weird looking 'f's are actually known as long s. Just read them as an 's' because that is what they actually are.

                        I had to transcribe some merchant ledgers from about 25 years before this in conjunction with a project done up at Mount Vernon. I remember being lectured about the Roman sources of the long s.

                        [–]_aex 51ポイント52ポイント  (20子コメント)

                        This letter is still used to represent the ∫ integral (from ſumma in Latin).

                        [–]ham236 22ポイント23ポイント  (10子コメント)

                        ahhh so it's an "S" like a sum.

                        [–]_aex 24ポイント25ポイント  (4子コメント)

                        Yeah because intuitively it's the sum of infinitesimal summands

                        [–]Alejandro_Last_Name 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Yes, exactly. And the other cool thing is that if you take the Riemann sum (approximation of the area), it contains a sigma for the sum, and you are summing the function values times the widths, delta x. After the limit is taken both of the Greek letters go to their Latin counterparts Sigma to S and Delta to d.

                        [–]Chris2112 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        Which is interesting because we also have summation which are represented with a capital sigma, the Greek letter for S (not E like too many people mistake it for)

                        [–]concurrentMonkeys 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        And dx is an infinitely small quantity, so ∫f(x)dx is just the sum of f(x)*dx. I still can't understand why anyone that tried to teach me calculus didn't explain this! For more years than I'm willing to admit I was just blindly copying what I thought were arbitrary symbols.

                        [–]choccula 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I was going to state the exact same fact: In the old days, ∫ was used as an "elongated S" to abbreviate the word "summa" (latin for sum) when referring to integrals, because integrals are just a sum over an area. After a while ∫ became the notation for "Integral".

                        [–]RSX1327 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        Thanks, I'm not an expert! I was just trying to pass along what little knowledge I had on the subject in case anyone was confused.

                        [–]_aex 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I think it looks really cool. I wish it was still in use.

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                          [–]MikeWeber1 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          What I find interesting is those s' are used except for capitalizing, possession, and pluralizing. Sale, Mr. Bourdeaux's, and Conditions, respectively.

                          [–]bastardinit 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Bite my fhiny metal aff.

                          [–]OmnipotentEntity 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Double s would have been written as ſs

                          Which is why it's ß in German.

                          [–]TheManOTheHour 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          ƒhiny*

                          [–]QuackNate 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          ...firft of January...

                          [–]not_an_evil_overlord 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I tried, ftill read it af an F.

                          [–]grubas 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Some with the infamous "ye" actually being the. Basically our alphabet was still slightly screwy.

                          [–]TheManOTheHour 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Yup, because Y was actually the letter "thorn" and pronounced "th"

                          [–]Choekaas 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          The biggest newspaper in Norway, Aftenposten, still uses them. I remember being confused by that when I was little.

                          [–]bardhoiledegg 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          It seems as though capital S, and lowercase s at the end of a word look like the versions we use today. Any reason for s having three cases?

                          [–]TheEmoSpeeds666 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It was a holdover from older English, when long s and s were two separate things. Also bear in mind that English had not yet been standardised in dictionaries, so printers could theoretically write how they thought words should sound.

                          [–]Arviay 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          And the "er" should be pronounced like "oi" for authenticity

                          [–]wildnonstopetherea 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          The word "sneeze" used to be "fneeze," but with the advent of typesetting and ligatures, people started misreading it as "∫neeze." Thanks for subscribing to Sneeze Facts.

                          [–]CaptAngusMacHaggis 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          it's ſ not f.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_s

                          [–]lonb 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Discussion in my head: "we were so dumb to use one shape to represent s & f" Then I responded to myself: "unlike today when we use the same shape to represent I & l"

                          [–]b-rye-an 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          If you read the f's as is, then it sounds quite lispy

                          [–]AngeloUMD 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          We still use that s today, it's the integral sign. Similar to the Greek Sigma for summation of series, you're taking the sum of the area between x1 and x2.

                          [–]breatherevenge 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          They look remarkably similar to the f's

                          [–]Nikotiiniko 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          How about this?

                          Even a lot of Finns think it's Gifu even though Sisu is so popular. Even the store wrote it wrong on the price.

                          [–]TheManOTheHour 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          My question is, why do they sometimes use the long s, and other times use the regular s?

                          [–]momoAmahzing 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Even though I've known this for many years, I still tend to read it with an 'f' instead of an 's.' It foundf fo filly in my head.

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                            [–]justarndredditor 24ポイント25ポイント  (5子コメント)

                            Negroes for Sale.

                            A Cargo of very fine stout Men and Women, in good order and fit for immediate service, just imported from the Windward Coast of Africa, in the Ship Two Brothers.

                            Conditions are one half Cash or Produce, the other half payable the first of January next, giving Bond and Security if required.

                            The Sale to be opened at 10 o'Clock each Day, in Mr. Bourdeaux's Yard, at No, 48, at the Bay.

                            May 19, 1784. JOHN MITCHELL.

                            [–]Hawksby 95ポイント96ポイント  (7子コメント)

                            A ship called "TWO BROTHERS"?! I guess you could say that's when the slavery trade got knocked into 12th Gear!

                            I'm finding /r/rickandmorty Refrences everywhere!

                            One Hundred Years.... Rick and Morty

                            [–]RealLeftWinger 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            THIS SUMMER...TWO BROTHERS. It's...it's just called Two Brothers!

                            [–]WaterDrum 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Huh. It seems like the ads here seem to have a l-looser feel to it.

                            [–]GetGraped 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I had to stop when I read that. I can't be laughing while reading about slavery at work.

                            [–]Turdferguson313 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Give me an old lady and we'll take on that Mexican armada.

                            [–]stokleplinger 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Alien.. Invasion.. Tomato Monster.. Mexican Armada.. Brothers, who are just regular brothers, running, in a van from an Asteroid and all sorts of things - The Movie.

                            [–]M-Mor-BLURGH-ty 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Ctrl+F'd my way down here. Was not disappointed.

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                              [–]RadioactiveWalrus 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              Is this from that little museum near the aquarium in Charleston? I remember seeing something similar there.

                              [–]OPisactuallydog[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Sorry From a history book in my uni's library.

                              [–]KindtoEveryone 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Did it list the city where the sale was taking place?

                              [–]niamhellen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I work at the aquarium! It's from Fort Sumter next door, you're right. :)

                              [–]Pvt_Lee_Fapping 20ポイント21ポイント  (5子コメント)

                              What's even more fucked about this is that they even refer to the slaves as men and women; it's not like an ad for kittens in the declassifieds - "kittens for sale: three males and two females" - they literally recognize these people as human beings enough to put out the ad as "Men and Women for sale."

                              [–]ratlicker3000 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              That's exactly what I was thinking. I had always been taught that early settlers didn't view african slaves as human. That is why they felt it was okay to use them like oxen. I had realized by high school it was not true. They always knew they were people. They just didn't care.

                              [–]tttruckit 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Not sure it's so simple. After the Enlightenment, science tried as hard as it could to prove there was a hierarchy to humanity, with Africans of course at the very bottom. So while they may use the terms "man" and "woman" that doesn't mean they viewed them as equals.

                              [–]ratlicker3000 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              That's a good point I hadn't considered.

                              [–]_wutdafuc 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Racism is a helluva drug.

                              [–]dysangel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I find that preferable to pretending that they're not human. Slavery and racism are separate things, even if they are related in some ways, especially in recent history.

                              [–]NoNormals 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              TWO BROTHERS

                              [–]yesdamnit 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Two just regular brothers.

                              [–]thick_as_pig_shit 36ポイント37ポイント  (10子コメント)

                              I hate ads like this, completely off putting when the price is unknown.

                              [–]limasxgoesto0 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Okay I hate to be making this comparison at all, but:

                              When you advertise a car dealership, they don't tell you how much you pay for "a car". You go in, look at models, condition, etc, and sometimes even bargain.

                              [–]urbjhawk21 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              It was probably an auction which is why there's no price listed.

                              [–]Unsharted4 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              I saw a video once (probably on reddit) where this guy brings a coupon he found in an old video game for a discounted frozen pizza to the super market and it was still good! What I'm saying is so you think they will still honour this ad?

                              [–]22Seven 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Lazy Game Reviews - The Red Baron II Pizza Coupon Adventure! His other stuff is worth a watch too, especially if you like old PC gaming.

                              [–]taytermuffin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              They probably charged different prices depending on the age, gender, and physical ability of each slave would be my guess

                              [–]RatchetBro 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              This man knows his slavecraft.

                              [–]MinnesotaFTW 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              Seriously, what does it take to buy a slave nowadays?

                              [–]MegaSwampbert 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              A plane ticket to Thailand.

                              [–]ImightbeAmish 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              An anonymous email, scary aquantances, a burner phone, private ship or plane, and a lotta cash

                              [–]I_Dont_Own_A_Cat 21ポイント22ポイント  (6子コメント)

                              Mildly horrifying.

                              [–]WorkFlow308 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              That waf interefting.

                              [–]surrealcookie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              It's just called two brothers

                              [–]Troub313 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              This was actually an ad for negro frijoles. They just didn't have the money for the second word. So they tried to make it cool and hip and just call them negroes. Oh boy was it ever a miscommunication.

                              [–]handhygiene 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I read this in Mike Tyson's voice because of the long Ss

                              [–]TheElderMoles 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I'll take three negroes, please

                              [–]matthewr87 5ポイント6ポイント  (11子コメント)

                              Amazing that this was not that long ago.

                              [–]jadartse 33ポイント34ポイント  (10子コメント)

                              Dude, it was 231 years ago...

                              [–]HopelessRomance4Life 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Literally remember it like yesterday.

                              [–]Barnder 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              What where you drinking yesterday?

                              [–]Jalien85 6ポイント7ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              When you think of it in generations it doesn't seem like as much though. That's 4 sets of people living to 60 ago. And the 1860s, the tail end of slavery in America, that was only a few generations ago as well. Maybe that's a weird way to put it but it makes it seem like not that much to me. Especially as I get older and realize how fast time is going by.

                              [–]ilbavirgin4yu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              It's not that long ago. My great grandmother died when I was in 9th grade. She was born 1914. I wish I was old/smart enough to ask questions about her mom and even grandmother.

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                                [–]MrBogard 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                And you think that's a long time?

                                [–]jadartse 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Dude, I think an 8 hour work shift is a long time.

                                [–]randdomusername 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Yes of course it is. It's around double the longest we can live

                                [–]MrBogard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Do you happen to believe the Earth is 4000 years old? A few generations is not a long time. We're still dealing with the social impact of human slavery today.

                                [–]jadartse 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I'd have to read some reviews first. And check the seller feedback. Power seller or no?

                                [–]ghostangel771 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                I feel dirty upvoting this.

                                [–]gedwolfe 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                On the ship TWO BROTHERS

                                [–]FuriousDark 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Those were the days

                                [–]ginelectonica 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Nah this is just an ad for the NBA draft

                                [–]myholstashslike8niks -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                The sad thing is there are actually people in our country who would willingly and with much gusto, go back to this immediately.

                                [–]jeff26554 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                So if you bought 2 slaves, could you get an additional slave of equal or lesser value for free?

                                [–]reddexx 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                Serious question: What do the terms mean?

                                "Conditions are one half Cash or Produce, the other half payable the first of January next, giving Bond and Security if required."

                                What is the Produce? What is the Bond and Security?

                                [–]Hrulj 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                It means you can pay with goods for them, ie sheep, gold, furniture, food etc.. Bond of security is a promise that you will pay in full by next of January or you will be taken to court and punished

                                [–]reddexx 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I think the term Produce probably has the narrower definition of farm produce i.e. cotton for which there is a known market price. I doubt they would want to take used furniture.

                                [–]mongo_lloyd 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Produce would be goods probably. Food or resources

                                [–]BrucePee 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                /r/historyporn would love this

                                [–]TheMightyPathos 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I wonder how many people are reading that but can't understand it because of all the f's.

                                [–]tttruckit 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                often times these ads would include the region or ethnic group for slaves straight from Africa, as it would indicate a certain knowledge or trade that the enslaved already had upon being captured/sold. like so

                                [–]tb-talex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Fuck. I've never studied or looked into slavery and stuff, and I wasn't expecting the ad to treat them just like any other cargo. Really shocking.

                                [–]savor_today 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Disgusting. Thanks for the share. Makes me happier in our society it is not in the open anymore. But I hope we can shed light on the dark webs that still exist today, disgusting.

                                [–]TheDunkMasterFlex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I think I recognize this, is this at Ellis Island?

                                [–]noothrowaway69 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I predict Quentin Tarantino's next movie will be "Killing John Mitchell"

                                [–]Carrabus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                John Mitchell is an asshole of the greatest proportions

                                [–]blastoff117 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Minus the fact that slavery was horrible and a detriment to society, I kind of found it interesting from an economic sense. I had this economic history class and we analyzed the "efficiency" of slavery and whether or not it was as successful at creating wealth in the same way textile industries and like did in the North. Anddd, pretty surprising results...

                                If I remember correctly, purchasing a slave around 1860 had a higher rate of return than buying stock in a textile mill, which might be expected. The other thing was that the South was considered to be in economic decline at the time of Civil War, but instead it had the third largest economy in world behind Great Britain and the North.

                                So yeah, slavery is "good" when considering economic efficiency, but very very bad when considering basically everything else.

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                                [–]justjoe1987 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I read this ad in a smooth Georgian southern dialect.

                                [–]aSadStateOfAffairs 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Serious question, were there any rules for owning a slave? Or could you literally do anything at all to them without any legal repercussions?

                                [–]JHTSeattle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I've looked at this from both sides now, from up and down, and still somehow, it's slavery's illusions I recall. I really don't understand people at all.

                                [–]-Introversy- -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                If i upvote this, does it mean I support black slavery?

                                [–]sfldg 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                i kept reading the S as a F

                                [–]colin8696908 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                It's sad that this guy has better handwriting then me.

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