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A word on Professionalism (self.Augur)

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I appreciate all the work the Augur team is doing, and I look forward to launch! That being said, I have a decent chunk of $$ sunk into REP, and I'd like to defend my investment.

That being the case, I would appreciate the Augur team behaving in a professional manner. Let me cut to the chase- I'm referring to this video, which includes Jeremy openly smoking marijuana during an interview.

I don't give a fuck if you smoke MJ. I voted for legalization in my state's election. But like it or not, you guys are working with a lot of regulators, both domestically and internationally. Let me translate: Regulators= caucasian males with generally conservative political views. There is literally no advantage to you doing an interview while actively smoking marijuana. It does no good, and can hurt you a lot. It reinforces the stereotype of cryptocurrencies being linked to illicit drug use. I don't care if you were in a state where it was legal. It's the perception.

Compare it to getting a facial tattoo- the "everliving job-stopper." You might think it looks cool. It might actually look cool. Yet, for a majority of employers, it is a stumbling block. It can only do you harm.

Do what you want in your private life. Don't include marijuana use in your public representation. It only harms the cause.

Tangentially related. . . Joey is a wonderful public face for Augur. Jeremy exudes "Douchebag." I'm not saying this to try to be hurtful. I just have a good sense of people, and other people's reaction to people. Jeremy, contribute what you do behind the scenes. Let Joey be the public face. Augur will be better off for it.

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[–]MoreDecentral 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Professionalism becomes more and more important as Augur grows from a startup.

I urge Team Augur pay a bit more attention to it.

[–]PatrickOBTC 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Joey Krug is definitely the most likable voice for Augur and there's not even a close second.

Smoking a hookah during an interview for your start-up is unprofessional, smug and a douche move. It reminded me of Preston Byrne of Eris in this interview. https://youtu.be/zgkmQ-jQJHk

[–]Tony_Swish 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I definitely agree that Joey is the most likable! Whenever I would get the opportunity to do press, Joey was the person I reached out to and I felt bad many of those times because that man is insanely busy.

Truthfully I can't say enough positive things about Joey and I'm really happy others feel this way about his professionalism, honesty and likability. He's the real deal.

[–]xflatulentfox 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Joey is humble and likable. Jeremy on the other hand... smoking hookah during an interview is incredibly immature and unprofessional. Can't this guy wait an hour to smoke? Isn't Jeremy a marketing professional? Shouldn't jeremy know better?

This whole scenario reflects a lack of judgment. The Augur team are now fiduciaries of all our btc and eth, and stuff like this puts a bad first impression to anyone watching the interview.

[–]vancecook 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thats actually shisha or hookah.... its arab tobacco....you guys are either really old or havent been out much lately...you cannot smoke weed out of that contraption....well I mean you probably could but youd have to put like 200-400 dollars of weed in the bowl and get to smoke it for maybe 30 seconds before all the marijuana incinerates into useless burnt crisps lmao...

[–]IamBloctopus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or maybe we just don't smoke:P

[–]doubleaughtnine 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Augur is a strange project to me. I bought into the crowd sale, because I loved Truthcoin and Ethereum is its natural mate. But I saw the Augur team original pitch, or a form of it at Draper University as they came to pitch to our class. It was called something different then, and Gardener gave the presentation, which was a rather disjointed and strange effort (though they came in costume which was humorous.) It was then billed as an online gaming platform explicitly. Several people were present that are no longer part of the project as far as the website, and they had a non developer or ancillary piece pitching (Gardener) which was abnormal. In the private breakdown of the pitch afterwards Tim Draper compared Gardener to a "sleazy used car salesman" and said his persona was a large reason as to why he would not be funding the project which sounded technically strong. Looking at his CV, personality, and public image and my personal interactions with Gardener at couple bitcoin conferences his involvement with this project is entirely confusing. In interviews it is clear he lacks any sort of technical competence despite profuse verbosity and it would appear he is more suited for a frat party than any sort of leadership on such vast technical undertaking. It is a concern to me which I am surprised was not raised prior to crowdsale but unfortunately in this world it seems most are more concerned with the pump than the final product.

[–]JeremyGardner 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Hey hey sorry this wasn't brought to my attention sooner. I just came across this now. We've been focused more on the client-side of development than on marketing and the weekend got the best of me.

I apologize for smoking hookah (tobacco) during the interview. This isn't the 1950s and it wasn't appropriate. I am sorry about the impression that I gave and will work to be a more professional ambassador in the future.

Thank you for all of the thoughtful feedback (both from the defenders and critics.) We want to exude the sort of professionalism you would expect from a team that just raised $5.1mm and clearly my behavior was not reflective of that desire.

Please continue to keep us on our toes and help makes us be the best we can be! We truly appreciate it. -JG

[–]uninsp_translat[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

A very mature response. I'm sorry I assumed it was marijuana. I'm in the demographic that is slightly out of touch with your generation (and with various smoking apparati). Again, if it's worth anything, stupid assumptions that I made could be made by others.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply.

[–]JeremyGardner 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Totally understandable, man. Honestly, it was a lazy Saturday afternoon, the coal was already lit, and it didn't cross my mind that there would be any confusion. That being said, smoking on camera has been out of fashion since before I was born, so there was absolutely no excuse.

[–]brathouz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the great response. Keep up the incredible work that you and your teammates are doing. You guys have amassed an army of REP holders and market makers that are excited to help make this project into a runaway success soon as it's time, and are understandably anxious with any bumps in the road, however big or small.

[–]cryptonut 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree its a pretty stupid thing to do but first of all it aint drugs & we all make mistakes. Learn and move on.

[–]KBVMD 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

He's not smoking marijuana, he is vaping, which is perfectly legal in all jurisdictions. You know what exudes douchebage? A random guy on reddit making erroneous claims trying to create controversy where none legitimately exists. There is a word for guys like you: Troll.

Gardner has proven himself an effective ambassador for Augur and I have full confidence in his continued ability to do the job well.

[–]uninsp_translat[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm sorry, I disagree. Vaping? Look, if I interpret it as marijuana, these old white dudes who don't know fuck are also going to interpret it as marijuana. Give me a fucking break.

And I disagree that he is the most well spoken. He is indeed knowledgeable. But he has a certain smugness that rubs me wrong.

Why would I post this if it is simply my reaction? I'm telling you what I think, and my gut reaction to several interviews I've seen with him. Again, my intention is not to attack Jeremy. It's honest feedback. I want Augur to succeed. Recognizing weaknesses is key to this.

I'm sure Jeremy is a key part of the team. But from a PR standpoint, he is doing no favors.

[–]IamBloctopus -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

Btw...I watched the entire video. Looks like he's smoking a hookah to me, not Vape or marijuana. And if it was weed it was certainly shitty because he wasn't getting higher throughout the hangout. Of course there is something to be said/learned about professionalism here.

[–]uninsp_translat[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, yeah, it looked like a hookah. . . like you can't smoke weed out of a hookah? The attractive alternative being that Jeremy is so dependant on tobacco that he can't go the length of an interview without having a smoke? There is literally no attractive scenario here.

[–]germican 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pharmacist here... Hookah would be a horrible delivery device for smoking weed out of. It uses indirect heat and would more bake the weed leading to most of the THC being vaporized and leaving in between puffs on it.

Now from a professionalism stand point I could agree holding off on smoking would give a more professional appearance... But then again so would being in a suit in an office conference room.

This isn't a startup by seasoned veterans of starting companies. This is a few young guys busting their ass to produce a quality product. At the end of the day the question is can the deliver on that product?

So you made a lager investment into a very high risk crowdsale knowing (hopefully) fully what you are investing in and now feel you are entitled to something. Guess what you didn't buy shares in their company you bought a percentage of the rep that will become yours once (and if) the platform is released. You have zero authority to tell them how to do business. Speak your opinion by all means but your only hurting yourself when you do it in this manner.

Want to be constructive? Offer recommendations and rational for why it may be a better course of action. And FYI making erroneous claims that someone is smoking an illegal substance with no evidence and calling one of them a douche bag (fine you say he gives the image of douche bag) is not constructive.

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[–]germican -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Guys I found out why this guy is being overly upset it appears he's a follower of r/nofap all that pent up frustration appears to being taken out on the augur team

[–]eustan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not too late to divest. PM me if you want to sell your REP at the price you bought them so that you can focus on more important and pleasant activities.

[–]x_ETHeREAL_x -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

100% troll. Even if true (and clearly not), you know what'll hurt your investment? Your post. Professionalism? How about a PM or making the suggestion in a non-public forum.

Falsely accusing someone of a crime that is damaging to their reputation to hurt their livelihood in a written statement is actually actionable, it's called libel.

[–]uninsp_translat[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're a moron. What crime did I accuse anyone of? Smoking marijuana is legal in some places. I'm not talking about a legal infraction here. I'm talking about an infraction of common fucking sense.

[–]x_ETHeREAL_x -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, right... No of course you didn't mean to imply something illegal. Obviously. I mean that's why you referred the problem being "cryptocurrencies being linked to illicit drug use."

In any event, illegality is not actually required for libel. In nearly all jurisdictions it's just a false statement made in writing that hurts someone's reputation. You clearly made a false statement (he's not smoking MJ) and tied it to a lack of professionalism in order to hurt his and his company's reputation.

You're a troll. We get it. No one would think that the way to actually make such a recommendation is in a public forum. No one would think that libeling the people and company they invested in was a good way to improve the value of their investment.

[–]IamBloctopus -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

In Jeremy's defense, he is the most well spoken of the entire group. Everything else I agree with.

[–]IamBloctopus -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry Jeremy, guess I'm the only one who thinks so, lol.