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Milo Yiannopoulos kicked out of LA "Slut Walk" (youtube.com)

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[–]ALDUINSBANE 82ポイント83ポイント  (12子コメント)

I like when girls started grinding on them. Because that's ok.

[–]DeltaForcePanda 52ポイント53ポイント  (2子コメント)

They are showing him how empowered they are!

[–]jb_trp 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Consent is sexy!

[–]inushomaru 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

hello fellow university student!

[–]Texas_sniper41 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ya isn't that technically sexual assault? They didn't ask to be grinded on, how ironic considering those girls are there to state that they're "not asking for it" when it comes to unwanted sexual attention.

[–]ALDUINSBANE 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's different because feminist.

[–]lsdforrabbits 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wearing short, tight fitting shorts and rubbing my ass on your crotch is NOT consent!!!

Wtf...

[–]UseYourInternetVoice 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're free do act and dress however you like.

I am free to judge you based on how you carry yourself. Those women are skanky and not worthy of respect. They have zero dignity and use rape as an excuse to whore out in public places.

Rape victims deserve better representation than that.

[–]OjosAzules 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

They were prolly gonna get him I'm trouble after they took back consent when they were done

[–]Trackpad94 104ポイント105ポイント  (15子コメント)

Obviously the actions of a few individuals isn't representative for a whole movement but that man was technically assaulted TWICE for holding a sign they disagreed with. You can't aggressively touch people or their property, it's as simple as that.

[–]Texas_sniper41 18ポイント19ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's a man though so women are allowed to hit him, he needs to man up and take the beating because that's how laws work! /s

[–]MANCREEP 7ポイント8ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm pretty sure this is one of those times where you can say, "I am 100% sure that everyone here is a complete moron".

[–]None-Of-You-Are-Real 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nah, I'm not much for false equivalencies. You might disagree with him but Milo is no moron.

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    [–]MsQcontinuum 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I happily call myself a feminist and I completely I agree with you. The extremist feminists do not respond well to criticism or being told that they may also embody privilege and that is problematic. Lauren Southern is an idiot, but that doesn't mean anyone has the right to touch her, verbally assault her, vandalize her property, or refuse her the right to speak in a public space. Radical feminists can act like assholes and it looks horrible for the whole movement.

    [–]inu51kza 25ポイント26ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Radical feminists

    They always get excused as the radical wing but I see this type of aggressive feminist tolerated and present at almost every single mainstream feminist event and cause.

    It seems like the rational majority of feminists do little to nothing to condemn this "radical" fringe until the mainstream puts scrutiny on them.

    It's just empty words. No major or even minor feminist group or event is going to screen for radical views, eject these radicals or even condemn the views/tactics of these people unless under immense mainstream scrutiny.

    Just feels like the majority is quite happy for them to exist and do your dirty work but knows when to play the PR game and say they're a radical minority to be ignored if anyone complains.

    [–]None-Of-You-Are-Real 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The idea that we live in a culture where rape is not only commonplace but accepted and encouraged is pretty radical and it's a central tenet of feminist theory.

    [–]maxamis21 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Why do you think Lauren Southern is an idiot?

    [–]MishedPotatoes -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Found the patriarchist. Get 'em girls!

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      [–]wewereddit 137ポイント138ポイント  (21子コメント)

      My god that place is full of a bunch of idiots

      [–]brotbeutel 55ポイント56ポイント  (3子コメント)

      On second thought, let's not go to the slut walk. 'Tis a silly place.

      [–]KeystrokeCowboy 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Free the Nipple walks are way better. Less talk and more walk

      [–]SpongeyStiffRat 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Free twerking tho....

      [–]ispeelmydrink 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I think these people came from Castle Anthrax.

      [–]MsQcontinuum 15ポイント16ポイント  (13子コメント)

      Including Lauren Southern and Milo Yiannopoulos. Lauren Southern did an AMA and everything was going relatively smoothly until she admitted she was a climate change denier. Shit got nasty after that.

      [–]None-Of-You-Are-Real 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Shit got nasty after that.

      Yeah, the good-hearted, open-minded liberals of reddit harangued her until she deleted the AMA and her account.

      What are your main reasons for being a climate change denier? EDIT: Just to clarify, I agree with her that there isn't a rape culture in the west. There are also people saying that I was trying to derail this AMA, in response, I would say that this is an ''ask me anything'' so I just asked her a question regarding her stance on climate change. I actually expected a debate from this but reddit just chased her off. So, I guess I would have to say i'm really sorry for ruining this.

      [–]EntrepreneurLife 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Milo elaborated on that subject actually.

      [–]TakenAway 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Yea, on the Joe Rogan podcast. He quit his job working with climate change because it was all sham and was always about politics.

      [–]Echelon64 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

      she admitted she was a climate change denier.

      Joe Rogan for a long time believed the moon landings were faked until he got his shit together.

      [–]unnoved 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

      I love his podcast but he is very impressionable.

      [–]ProxyReaper 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I wish he would call out obvious bullshit. A podcast can be going great and than the guest says some retarded shit and Rogan simply relies with "hmm thats interesting".

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        [–]imgonnacallyouretard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Technically you could say that about almost all gatherings of humans ever.

        Except maybe here, but those events are rare.

        [–]barcelonatimes -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Yeah, I think any group that goes that far into thinking they have been persecuted for so long is a bit touched. Sure, women haven't had a lot of rights historically, but for the most part they've been able to avoid going to war and working after married too.

        There are some causes I identify with very strongly, but anytime I've met people who actively participate in those groups, I think I may need to rethink my ideals.

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          [–]IscoAlcaron 162ポイント163ポイント  (27子コメント)

          That person was sexually harassing Milo by twerking on him without his consent! Why didn't the cops tackle her to the ground and send her to prison for her abusive actions! If it were a man doing it to a woman I'm sure there would've been some reaction.

          [–]satansheat 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Its just how society is. I took a sex class at my uni and we talked about how if you touch a female stripper you will be thrown out and sometimes roughed up. But yet women grab and even rip clothes off the male strippers. Granted as one of the 3 men in a class of 24 I thought what guy wouldn't like a bunch of ladies doing that to them. to which my professor discussed how some places cant show full dick. So the stripper gets fined 500 dollars if his package slips at. But if you have 10 to 15 women forcefully pulling your thong off you most likely will get that fine.

          [–]Kombat_Wombat -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

          That's ridiculous about the fines, but about the touching, that's a bit different. If there was common violence from a bunch of drunk women on the stripper, then men would be just as afraid of the ladies being under control or not.

          Edit: Right, got it. No dissenting voice allowed.

          [–]mopeyshadow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Right, got it. You're allowed to disagree, but no one is allowed to disagree with you.

          [–]ispeelmydrink 4ポイント5ポイント  (8子コメント)

          Twerks on a gay man

          Hahahaha! You have no power here!

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            [–]MiCK_GaSM 141ポイント142ポイント  (19子コメント)

            You're not allowed to think about me sexually, despite how sexually I am dressed and acting.

            Don't look at my pizza and feel hungry either.

            [–]None-Of-You-Are-Real 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

            If the claim is "Just because I'm dressed a certain way doesn't mean it's okay to sexually assault me", I'm all on board.

            If the claim is "I'm going to walk around naked and if you sexualize me in any way you're a misogynist shitlord", you're an idiot.

            [–]zaviex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            The claim is somewhere in between I think. I dont know its not well articulated

            [–]AndyAndrophile[S] 91ポイント92ポイント  (11子コメント)

            I accept the analogy, but...I don't think there were any steaming hot slices of pizza there. Maybe a week old plate of half-gone goulash or two - at best.

            [–]Balder666 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

            I'd still eat it.

            [–]Kombat_Wombat 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Any port in a storm.

            [–]GodOfThunder44 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            ...any puddle in a dry spell?

            [–]ChristoferRudd 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

            You're supposed to eat it when it's week old. Who wants fresh goulash?

            [–]ThatCuntOverThere 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

            Clam chowder?

            [–]AndyAndrophile[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Rancid fish tacos w/extra cheese.

            [–]Islandredbilly61 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            As my old friend would say. "It'll make a turd"

            [–]Carts27 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Well that goes against Darwin's theory of evolution.

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              [–]YouTwistedWords 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Ok, first of all if you interfere with any event like this, you're going to be asked to leave. If you go to bonaroo, set up a soap box and start proclaiming "Rock and Roll is the devil!", then you'll be asked to leave.

              That's not a freedom of speech issue. You're still totally allowed to say those opinions, but when people put in the effort to make a large event like this, you're going to be asked not to attend it.

              He went in there trying to get kicked out, and he was successful. This isn't the event operators being crazy, it's Milo trying to get a rise out of people and succeeding.

              But he's not a martyr. There was no crime committed against him.

              [–]BatmanBrah 31ポイント32ポイント  (7子コメント)

              'Questioning our baseless underlying philosophy? Can't have that!'

              ...and these people have the nerve to cry privilege when they have the power to deject a person from a publicly held event for saying things they don't like.

              [–]cellardoor1885 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Is this surprising though? If you go to any rally/event/pride thing and protest against the attendees you will be removed by the security, harassed by the attendees, or both. It could be a KKK rally or Gay Pride event or the People For Sugar-Free Syrup.

              [–]yursaman 38ポイント39ポイント  (35子コメント)

              Rape culture in America has always confused me. Rape culture is when a society essentially ignores or even accepts rape as a normal thing, right?

              My question is how does this apply to America? I feel like our culture constantly tells us that rape is bad, and our society accepts this; it's a no-brainer. Why are things like victim blaming and sexual objectification associated with rape culture when those things aren't necessarily related to rape? If I have a reasonable suspicion that a "victim" of a sexual assault could be lying due to lack of evidence of whatever, why does that mean I'm perpetuating rape culture? If I use or portray a person (or even myself) as a sexual object, without directly effecting anyone other than myself, why does that also mean I'm perpetuating rape culture?

              If a small % of the US decides to go and rape someone, how is that indicative of a culture indifferent towards rape? I feel like that just indicates that some people in the US are just fucked up...

              I'm genuinely confused about this, if someone could clear this up for me I'd appreciate it.

              [–]NopeSry4Work 38ポイント39ポイント  (1子コメント)

              The problem you have is that you're approaching the subject with logic, like a real person. For you to correctly feel victimized empowered by rape culture, you need to throw all of that out the window, and anyone who disagrees with you is a rapist, misogynistic, asshole.

              [–]GroovyBoomstick 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

              A real person considers both sides, and doesn't make up strawmen arguments about the opposing side.

              [–]Swineflew1 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I think the only U.S. example of rape culture I can remember and actually consider rape culture is the stubenville case, and even then it was what I'm assuming a minority of the people in the town that cared more about football.
              That being said, across the country there was an outrage about this because nearly everyone agrees that rape is bad and people saying "think about the boys and their future" were mercilissly bashed by the rest of the country.

              [–]brotbeutel 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It doesn't apply to America. Pretty simple.

              [–]Atheist101 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Rape culture and misogyny is just a buzzword meant to rile up peoples emotions, theres no meaning behind it. For example, in my Contracts law class today we were discussing if a marriage contract can be considered not enforceable and the professor brought up the hypothetical of a man and woman who had not wanted to get seriously married but after a night out, they drive by a judge's house and the man is like "lets get married lolz!" and the woman agrees, they go and wake up the judge and he marries them because hes nice. They get back in the car and the woman says well that was a funny joke that we pretended to get married and stuff! and then the man would reply "what joke? we are married now".

              We have 2 pretty stereotypical feminists in the class and literally the first word out of their mouths was "thats mysognistic!!!" They completely threw out the legal discussion and theory and went straight to an emotional buzzword. The professor, who was a well respected and educated lawyer got pretty annoyed at that and tried to steer the discussion back into the legal framework with logic but these 2 girls kept derailing the class and just stuck with "thats misogynistic and therefore that contract shouldnt be valid".

              All I could think of during the class was if the man is really misogynistic, why the fuck would he want to marry a woman! I mean, I hate quite a few things and getting married to something/someone I hate is probably the least logical fucking thing to do! From what the 2 girls were saying in class, it sounded like misogynistic to them meant something that vaguely negatively impacts a woman, rather than the real fuckin definition of the hatred of woman.

              [–]THE_CUNT_SHREDDER 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I would recommend asking your questions at /r/AskSocialScience

              [–]Peanaut 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

              Rape culture is when a society essentially ignores or even accepts rape as a normal thing, right?

              No. It's a lot more complicated than that but snake oil salesmen like Milo would like you to think that that's a valid definition.

              [–]MagicRocketAssault 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Rape is pervasive and normal? IIIIIIIIIIIIII don't think so.

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                [–]judgewooden 59ポイント60ポイント  (26子コメント)

                Heard him on Joe Rogan and must conclude that he is a pathological liar or an attention seeking troll at best. Starts every sentence with: "The reason I win is ....."

                Can recommend the podcast, will put you off Milo Yiannopoulos for life.

                [–]catpotle 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

                After listening to him on JR I came to the conclusion that Milo has no integrity on anything. He blatantly admits all he cares about is fame by trying to stir shit up. He admires sociopaths and either he is one or he tries to mirror his personality towards one. If he holds 1 position it immediately contradicts whatever position he holds in another argument. Dude is a total wreck of a person, needs therapy.

                [–]BlinkingZeroes 4ポイント5ポイント  (12子コメント)

                got the link?

                [–]Jrose152 11ポイント12ポイント  (11子コメント)

                Here is the link but don't let it put you off of the show. JRE is an awesome podcast, this was just a bad guest who talked too fast and said some dumb stuff. Joe questions him pretty much the entire time which is nice but the dude just talks too fast and it get's annoying quick.

                [–]wewereddit 16ポイント17ポイント  (4子コメント)

                i thought he was hilarious though

                [–]cjt11203 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                He has a supervillain vibe to him.

                [–]Jrose152 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                My personal opinion is all. Take it with a grain of salt. I'm a big JRE fan, this episode just didn't do it for me.

                [–]StoneWall99 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                yeah it sucked. the Redband episode is way better

                [–]BlinkingZeroes 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

                He doesn't really help himself by saying he thinks babies should be circumcized (against their will) because circumcized cocks look better, and I always find it weird how people argue about the power of social progressives - and then go on to talk about codes of conduct rules in some academic environments.

                ...There's a political party that gets elected, that wants to shut off women's access to healthcare... Because of their religious beliefs. Does no one recognize this difference in access to power? Why is this such a frequent blind spot in these arguments?

                Milo's not a good arguer. Anyone who tried to define an opponent as un-American by virtue of them having values that don't mirror their own, is not someone making an educated, logical or really honest argument. I don't think Joe buys a single thing he says. Ah well. Thanks for the link.

                [–]KoolBert 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                He doesn't really help himself by saying he thinks babies should be circumcized (against their will) because circumcized cocks look better

                That would actually be a brilliant counterpoint to Americans wanting to mutilate babies.

                "Don't you know that's exactly what the evil gays want? They want to have your dick cut because they want to suck it! Why would you mutilate your dick just to make it more attractive to gay people? It's ALWAYS guys saying it looks nice. Only people who like mutilated dicks are guys who like dicks."

                [–]Cybercommie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I would like to know how a baby can consent to circumcision, can anyone tell me?

                [–]Jrose152 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yeah that's pretty much how I felt. Dude has good facts stored up in his head to deliver but then when it comes to like actual conversation past people just listening to him and when they respond for some back and forth banter he just sounds dumb to me.

                [–]MattyMcD 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I had watched Sky News video of Milo before he was on JRE and he seemed like a pretty articulate person.

                Holy shit was he a lot different on JRE. It was like he turned it up to 11. It was exhausting to listen to but also very entertaining at the same time. I agree though definitely not his best guest. A lot of interrupting.

                [–]doctorlogical 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I don't agree with Milo on most of his rants... But that said, I had the pleasure of interviewing him back when the whole "Name and Shame" thing was going on.

                It was a very pleasant interview and he actually was much less snobbish than you see him in a lot of his videos.

                I gotta give him one thing, he has hustle - seems like I'm stumbling upon a Milo video once a week these days.

                [–]deathstrukk 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It's a pretty fair assumption to say that milos biggest fan is milo

                [–]UseYourInternetVoice 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                He was the victim of sexual abuse and lost his virginity in a gang bang at 14.

                He might have a reason for being fucked up.

                [–]Jazzremix 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yeah, him and Rogan pretty much yelling over each other made me hate him.

                Rogan's podcasts are usually pretty laid back and enjoyable to listen to even if people are saying dumb shit.

                [–]Anfernii 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Yea, but then he some decent points as well. Joe and milo both had their pro's and cons during that podcast.

                [–]Joten 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Same, he seems to be another version of Anne Coulter to me. Being negative for the sake of fame.

                He had some decent points, especially around the PC Culture that is popping up but then the discussion turned to other areas where he was clearly just being devils advocate.

                My favorite was (may not be exact quote) "I'm against gay marriage, I don't think it's natural" (he's gay) then Joe pointed out "well that's just because you don't want to get married" followed by "exactly".

                [–]HisMajestyWilliam1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                or "don@t sexualize kids, Rogan, by saying that kid is gay. InstEad agree with me that circumcising babies is best because their dicks would look better to suck".

                Dude is just plain gross. Disgusting character.

                [–]sugemchuge 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I disagreed with nearly everything he said but goddamn it if that was not the most entertaining 3 hours of audio I've heard in a long ass time! Highly recommended to anyone who like intellectual articulate debates. He's either crazy or a supertroll. I just can't figure him out.

                [–]Zoltrahn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I have seen a couple clips of Milo that I really agreed with, but the major red flag I saw in this video was that he works for Breitbart. The Onion has more journalistic integrity than Breitbart does.

                [–]HisMajestyWilliam1 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                yes, thank you.

                I hated the constant, "I'M SO INTELLIGENT BECAUSE THE STATS SAY GAYS ARE MORE INTELLIGENT" OR

                "I'M SO INTELLIGENT BECAUSE I HAVE SUCH RANDOM QuIRKS" OR

                "I LOVE BLACK DICKS (REPEAT 100000 TIMES)" OR

                "THE NHS IS SHIT, HAVE YOU EVeN BEEN TO A UK HOSPITAL, DUH" OR

                "OBVIOUSLY EVERYWHERE THAT ISN'T JUDEO-CHRISTAIN IS WORSE" OR

                "OBVIOUSLY EVERYWHERE BRITAIN HAS INVADED IS BETTER AS A RESULT" OR

                "I'M ROMAN CATHOLTIC EVEN THOUGH I'M POLAR OPPOSITE TO WHAT THAT MEANS BEING AND WOULD BE CONDEMNED TO INFINITE DAMNATION" OR

                "YH, I'M A REVENGE GAY, HAHA, TAKE THAT MUM"

                and ofcourse, "DON'T SEXUALIZE KIDS BY SAYING THAT KID ON YOUR STREET IS GAY, ROGAN. BUT CIRCUMCISE ALL BABIES BECAUSE THEIR COCKS LOOK BETTER FOR ME TO SUCK!!! xDxDxD"

                Dude, if you were smart, we would be able to tell after you talking for 3 hours.

                [–]TakenAway 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Wow. Look who took him seriously.

                [–]kaihau 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

                But the second a guy wears women's clothing, they'll be the first to judge and berate. Can't take these dumb cunts seriously.

                [–]bennihana123 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

                I don't like him, I don't like them, why am I watching this

                [–]Dilubio 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                the chick from rebel media looks alright though.

                which reminds me

                time for myfreecams

                [–]reyggg 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You sponsored by them or what?

                [–]gatekeepr 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

                I've got the feeling Amber Rose is using this slutwalk thing to increase her fame and fortune.

                [–]GeneticallyMorbid 17ポイント18ポイント  (1子コメント)

                What?? Noooo, who would do such a thing??

                [–]Ceramicrabbit 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Definitely not somebody who is a celebrity just because they are a celebrity and lacks any talent or ability to produce something of value?

                [–]Sydrek 21ポイント22ポイント  (19子コメント)

                It's quite astonishing that there's still this idea of rape culture in the US and that women are somehow underprivileged.

                And after reading a bit more on Slut Walk, it's sadly like a typical feminist gathering, really just another grandstanding of bored pathetic narcissistic women that gather to pat each other on the back telling how hard they're having it.

                In a weird sense, they are creating this illusion of having a problem just to be able to claim that they somehow changed things / finally having a voice ... so that they can feel as if they achieved something.

                Kinda like being a pyromaniac and firefighter at the same time.

                Yet in this case it's a imaginary fire that they create, while going around telling people of this huge fire spreading everywhere and when people finally cave in and tell em "fine, go ahead show me where this fire is", they turn around and say "we already extinguished it, we saved the day"

                [–]Galadron 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

                Wait a sec... I'm no expert on the slut walk by any means, but I sort of thought that it was created in response to community leaders an police actually stating that the way someone was dressed made them somewhat liable for being raped, and that if they don't want to be raped that they shouldn't wear provocative clothing. I mean, a quick google search turns up this: http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/02/18/cop_apologizes_for_sluts_remark_at_law_school.html

                So, it's not that they're fighting an imaginary issue, just that they've sort of become side-tracked from the original message and instead just seem to be obsessed with the idea that somehow rape is accepted, when really no one is pro-rape aside from a rapist, and instead focus on the message that regardless of how someone is dressed, you can't sex them unless they give you permission.

                [–]DrapeRape 18ポイント19ポイント  (10子コメント)

                and instead focus on the message that regardless of how someone is dressed, you can't sex them unless they give you permission.

                Yes, but guess what kind of people know this and don't give a fuck? Actual rapists. They are predators. It's not like they're extremely stupid and go "ohhhhh, I didn't know consent was a thing!"

                What the hell is the point of spreading that message?

                [–]GroovyBoomstick 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Except, people on Reddit (and in real life) are constantly questioning the victim's character/dress and whether what happened was really rape (I'm not even going to go into that fucking AMA). Also, there are A LOT of people who seem to think that women actually fantasize about rape, which again softens the perceived severity of the actual act. I'm not saying that you believe this, but this is absolutely not an uncommon thing.

                [–]DrapeRape 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Except, people on Reddit (and in real life) are constantly questioning the victim's character/dress and whether what happened was really rape

                • That is wholly necessary. In order to have a fair trial, the legitimacy of a claim must be scrutinized, and the defendant is innocent until proven guilty.

                • The character of the defendant comes into question, as well as the character of the person who made the claim. This is why rape is so hard to deal with. Half the time it's a "he said she said" thing, and things like character become relevant.

                • Not everyone that is raped realizes they have been raped. Conversely, people that haven't been raped might claim they have been for vindictive purposes (unfortunately yes, this does happen).

                Also, there are A LOT of people who seem to think that women actually fantasize about rape

                • That probably has to do with the popularity of things like 50 shades of grey.

                • There are some women that have rape fantasies, but not all women are into that. It's a fetish.

                [–]Galadron 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

                Yeah, it's not actually just rapists that think that. I provided a link to where a law enforcement official suggested that they can avoid being raped by dressing less like sluts, as if the impetus of not having someone rape you lies on the victim. Sadly, a lot of older people actually buy into the idea that if someone is dressed "inappropriately" that they deserve what they get. It's fucked, but it's out there. Though I do think you're right and that there's only a small percent of the population that actually thinks this way, and they're not likely to change their tune because of a slut walk.

                [–]DrapeRape 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

                Sadly, a lot of older people actually buy into the idea that if someone is dressed "inappropriately" that they deserve what they get.

                The people that I've heard use this argument don't so much feel like the victims "deserved it", but rather the way you dress and where you choose to go (and at what time) are factors that one has control over and should keep in mind because there do exist dangerous people in this world. They are predators, you are prey.

                That's what people always do when a tragedy occurs:

                • identify what we have control over
                • figure out how to keep it from happening again.

                If one of the things is dressing "slutty" and walking around a sketchy area while alone late at night is something a person can control, what is wrong with bringing it up? That's not "victim-blaming", that's pointing out something that people can change to prevent others from becoming victims as well.

                [–]RSQUAREDVALUE 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I think the point here is that those who dress "slutty" are not that likely to be raped. Most rapes happen in situations where the offender knows the victim. This idea of a scary guy in the street getting aroused by a woman and jumping out isn't statistically significant compared to the former. Its not a very good strategic messaging choice when there are much better ones out there that can also teach safety and meanwhile not being done in a shaming way.

                [–]je_kay24 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Being slutty doesn't determine your chances of getting raped is the point.

                However, location will probably have a much stronger correlation.

                [–]Whadios 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                a law enforcement official suggested that they can avoid being raped by dressing less like sluts, as if the impetus of not having someone rape you lies on the victim

                God forbid someone say something that sounds like common sense. That is in no way shape or form removing any amount of blame from the person committing the assault or rape. The reality, as that person sees it at least as there is some debate on whether it actually has any effect, is that there are people who commit rape and not dressing a certain way could lower your chances of being targeted. They aren't saying you deserve to be raped for dressing a certain way.

                If I walk through a bad neighborhood counting a stack of money at night and get robbed the person who robbed me is no less guilty, I have no less right to count my money openly but all the same it would be right to point out that maybe I could have acted differently to reduce my risk of a bad outcome.

                By going after people who say things like that you're going after the wrong people completely and nothing to do with any underlying problem. Nothing will be solved.

                [–]Ballersock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                A lot of radfems won't be happy until the world is a woman's utopia and all men are given the proverbial doghouse.

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                [–]zaviex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                ill park right here and wait for some fireworks above hopefully. Dont let me down.

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                  [–]horrificmedium 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Milo is infuriatingly misleading with pretty much everything he writes and produces. His twitter's like reading Daily Mail headlines without the homophobic undercurrent. Also, he's ever so slightly racist.

                  [–]Crjbsgwuehryj 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  He called out another "journalist" for lying about this same event.

                  [–]IxWoodstockxI 16ポイント17ポイント  (24子コメント)

                  Lol bitches be wilding. I love how the fat females are there. Lol nobody want to fuck yo fatass.

                  [–]HaberdasherA 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  My favorite part is when they demand any man who dates them must look like a calvin klein model. They say its because they have the right to "choose any man they want" and if you say anything otherwise then you're a misogynist.

                  But saying you don't want to date women over 250lbs? That makes you a misogynist too for contributing to the institutionalized oppression of fat ugly women by refusing to pretend they're as hot as supermodels.

                  [–]ConvertsToMetric 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

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                  [–]jmillerworks 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  they're still never gonna get it. I don't care how they put it. They think I'm going to work out 3 hours a day, eat raw vegan, crash diet eating nothing but protein shakes for a month to get to that magical 7% bodyfat that the best of us like Channing Tatum can only keep up for 10 days for Magic Mike, their going to saunter up smelling like Pizza & sausages arms flapping in the wind like flags, drinking a 700 calorie cup of pumpkin spice coffee & get THIS dick?!

                  no! Not unless they pay my $300 an hour massage fees plus tip. This dick is not for them! Milo has a much higher chance!

                  When I go to the club, with my boys to listen to dubstep or trap and dance in a circle that is NOT a license for you to grind on me! Not to Jump on me, or lift my shirt up or grab! When I'm out with my beautiful, thin white supermodel girlfriend, or take her to the mall that is not a license for big black women to throw shade! Or whisper to or about me! I'm starting my own damn walk! For good looking people!

                  My best advice for anyone that wants to date models of either gender is...look like a model. Or be rich. I'll fucks with rich kind of.

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                    [–]almostmicrochip 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    This is a really shitty way to get your point across. When you do this you look more like the Westboro Baptist Church than someone who disagrees. The argument against (extreme) feminists should be handled in a formal fact-based manner. If they want to have these slut walks who fucking cares. There is no doubt in my mind that this video is biased. I understand you shouldn't disagree with a video based solely upon its media outlet, but Breitbart is one of the worst and furthest right outlets in America. I get that Reddit seems to hate the SJW movement, but if you remove the extreme opinions from the movement it's actually reasonable. It's about equality between genders, you know, actual feminism.

                    [–]Ceramicrabbit 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    if you remove the extreme opinions

                    Isn't the core concept that American culture somehow accepts and perpetuates rape? That seems pretty extreme.

                    [–]bbybgs 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    I listened to this guy on the Joe Rogan podcast, he's a "gay conservative" and a huge piece of shit. Just another Anne Coulter style "journalist", he spent much of the time making sweeping generalizations he clearly knew were disingenuous, and the other portion sidestepping any challenging conversations via unfunny gay-based self-deprecating/sexual/drug jokes. Joe sympathized with him but didn't let him worm his way out or dodge most of the time, and it ended up pretty awkward for this guy on multiple occasions.

                    [–]IIIIllllIIIIlllll 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    You da man bby. I listened to that podcast too and it felt like Milo's whole thing was disingenuous like 15 minutes in. He was trying to be too funny about all of it. He did it to himself tho, joe was trying to help a bit and not just rip on him but no luck. I'm a grill btw.

                    [–]Texas_sniper41 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Attack the messenger because you disagree with the message, way to show how young you are.

                    [–]Fernao 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    It's a pretty classic SJW/feminist/liberal tactic. They know they can't argue on logic so they just attack whoever calls them out. Feels > reals.

                    [–]zaviex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Milo is an ass for sure but that doesn't make everything he says wrong. Similarly, not everything ann coulter says is wrong. You gotta listen to them. Milo is much less educated than Coulter though. He talks really fast with big words to sound smarter

                    [–]dripdroponmytiptop 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    this thread's comments are a shit show, get out now

                    [–]Idontwannaloseheart -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Seriously, it's like you HAVE to hate feminists.

                    [–]althaea 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Seems like the event was more of an excuse for a party rather than actually doing anything to benefit victims.

                    [–]TODO_getLife 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Haha, I worked with this guy for a short time over the summer, actually one of the most pleasant people I've met, but different environment I know when he wants to be provocative he can be.

                    [–]Cbird54 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    You know, before this I was like #Freethenipple is a horrible idea because of the chances of increased sexual assaults and now I'm against it because I don't want my penis to invert itself.

                    [–]turkeyinthecorn 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    He looks like Johnny Quest if Johnny Quest was the product of generations of incest and a popular bully at a country club.

                    [–]crazyredd88 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    They just can't get their agenda straight, it seems...

                    [–]deckchair 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    ITT: Left wing people bitch about bias right wing reporters/news sources and vice versa.

                    [–]VCUBNFO 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    On what grounds were they removed? Was that not public property?

                    [–]ReallySeriously78 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    what does a moderate feminist look like even?

                    [–]badboy_dodger 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    cringe cringe cringe. It's great to feel body empowerment, to be able to feel safe expressing your body the way you feel it. But what is this actually accomplishing for victims of rape? This slutwalk seems really unproductive/non-beneficial for actually starting a conversation about real issues. Maybe this video is biased, I'm not sure. Rape culture is real. Walking to and from work everyday has proven this to me. I have been followed by complete strangers. I have felt ashamed for "being too attractive" or "too nice", because you believe that you are entitled to my time and space. Obviously not all boys are being taught that its okay to rape women, but boys are being taught that it's okay to hold women to a different standard than men. Thankfully in this country it's not popular to teach this in a direct way but in a passive way. It's not taught with words but it's what is learned through not talking about the issue at all. Regret isn't rape, but being raped can involve a lot of regret, for things that you couldn't have even controlled. "Regret isn't rape" is a completely insensitive message to be portraying at an event that is being held as a safe space for survivors of rape. It's okay to disagree but don't be such a smug dick about it.

                    [–]magnificentwalrus 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I'm conflicted....while I despise the idiots that represent modern radical feminism, laugh at he notion of 'rape culture'....Milo is a fucking sociopath. On Joe Rogan last week he said some shit that you assumed had to be trolling, and then he articulated his points because he's so fucking full of himself he can't see how off the walls ridiculous he is.

                    [–]drugrug -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    so many bitter men here... chill out guys

                    [–]netengineer10 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    NSFW tag it.

                    [–]stopdammit -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    we're sharing breitbart content now?

                    [–]Zanarchy 12ポイント13ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    It's the content that's important, what does the source matter?

                    [–]jcurtiswood -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    Because it's a biased, unintelligible chaff.

                    [–]Zanarchy 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    What part does that play in the video linked here?

                    [–]jcurtiswood 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Because it's the same...

                    [–]elegantjihad -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Yeesh, that guy is cringeworthy.

                    [–]youngsaaron 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    First of all dudes name is 'milo.'

                    [–]Commander_Travis 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    He might have Greek heritage. I find out and get back with you on that.

                    [–]IndianCurryMunch 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    His last name is Yiannopoulos, so don't bother he is Greek.

                    [–]weywyrd0 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    When they were holding up the sign that girl grinded on him. How is that not sexual assault? Unwarranted and hypocritical.

                    [–]Wifihelpneeded -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Would like to see them do this in the middle east?

                    [–]GamerHaste 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    What... the... fuck...

                    [–]Fredvegas 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Who the fuck is Milo Yiannopoulos?

                    [–]zaviex 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    a gay guy from the UK that somehow got popular recently

                    [–]Noddleback 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    Milo is modern day mlk

                    [–]pixel4e 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Do you mean: modern, gay mlk?

                    [–]Hootietang 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Dear Lord what a bunch of tools. An entire city block worth of idiocy, you saw it here first folks.

                    [–]MF_Doomed -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Breitbart....of course

                    [–]Sazereak -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I can't wait until people get tired of hearing about these stupid sluts.

                    [–]MrPickles88 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Dummmmmmmb biitches

                    [–]ChemicallyBlind -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I'm kinda happy that they are all bunched together in one spot. One missile strike and the percentage of dribbling morons in the world goes down a tad.

                    But in all seriousness can someone please explain to me their line of reasoning? "I'll wear provacative clothing to show there is no link between clothing and response" thats like saying a person walking through a bad part of town, walking alone, with flashy items and wealth on display isn't at the very least concerned that they might get robbed. It's utter bollocks

                    [–]sienalock 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    This whole extreme feminism movement (along with the SJWs) is a giant mindfuck of a paradox.

                    [–]ku7j3n 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    This is the biggest collection of cunts I've ever seen.

                    [–]AndThusThereWasLight -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I would be 100% willing to toss some tear gas near the stage.

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