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[–]mikeshinobi 83ポイント84ポイント  (34子コメント)

An online posting from six years ago said that she used to read aloud from Donald Trump's The Art of the Deal.

What a very interesting, totally relevant, and completely innocent factoid that definitely isn't intended to subtly smear Trump and conservatives as a whole!

Jokes aside, I think it's so sad that instead of trying to take a look at the true root of the problem, such as why these emasculated, disenfranchised beta males are committing all these mass shootings (and golly gee it's a fucking mystery!), all they can talk about is banning guns.

But of course taking the focus away from the real problem and turning it to disarming the population is no accident.

[–]mugatucrazypills 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm sure it was the trump reading that threw him over the edge, not the incompetent single mom most responsible teenager in the house.

Even Obama went to live with his grandparents.

[–]Endorsed Contributorcocaine_face 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Having had to live in a tiny shithole (literally, there was dog and cat shit on the floor) with my incompetent single mom growing up makes me understand these sorts of situations.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 20ポイント21ポイント  (0子コメント)

What a very interesting, totally relevant, and completely innocent factoid that definitely isn't intended to subtly smear Trump and conservatives as a whole!

I immediately thought the very same thing. This literally has fuck-all to do with anything related to the incident. This is nothing more than a cheap media attempt to tie Trump to a horrific event.

Here, let's play some more irrelevant facts:

"We also have discovered that Mercer also watched Fraggle Rock when he was a boy and was really good at basketball free throws!"

[–]unpluggedoasis 41ポイント42ポイント  (9子コメント)

Sadly I think that it is only going to get worse before it gets better. We will see a lot more of these shootings. When BP conditioning works you end up with a beta bux who is suffering but thinks "at least I have a wife and children" so he wont commit these horrible acts. When things go very wrong three things can happen:

  • suicide (most common)
  • these shooting sprees
  • men completely drop out of society and live lonely lives without providing anything meaningful to the world.

RP saves lives. Places like this are like the underground railroad for betas. It gives them (us ... Im a reforming beta) a fighting chance in a world that hates us.

[–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

The culture's continued, willful ignorance and self-deception about the true problem will ultimately lead to the culture's own demise. The media blames this shit on everything but the real problem.

  • White beta boy shoots up a movie theater or school? Blame the guns. Then when the NRA lobby tells the media to go fuck itself, they blame the vague concept of "mental illness"

  • Black guy shoots people? Blame "institutional racism". Then when that dies down...."mental illness".

The difference today from 20 years ago is the internet. It used to be betas wallowed in their own rage; now they can share their rage with other self-pitying betas. And unless they find TRP, it only leads to bad things.

Learning game and how to be a man can literally save lives.

[–]mugatucrazypills -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

or the "family destroyers" that's a Beta Bux version of a schoolyard shooter

[–]anangryterrorist 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

sadly, I think it'll get worse before it gets better

It is getting worse. Went on /r9k/ the day of the oregon shooting, saw people also talking about an AU shooting, and I think there was another over in Europe the next day as well. It's the end times, mates.

[–]Cr3X1eUZ 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

If everyone was RedPill would things really be better? I mean, would it still work if everyone was doing it?

Or would it be like after all the farmers started using fertilizer, and they were no better off than before when no-one was using fertilizer?

[–]Brian_Official 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think it'd be better as a whole if society wouldn't goad these fragile men into these kind of situation in the first place. The world couldn't handle everyone being alpha, the hierarchy stays in place. But I don't think the betas need to be this beta.

[–]2Marsupian 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

At least they would have a working system for hoe to get laid and know that they themselves are to blame and focus on becoming successful in some area. They would vent their anger in a constructive way like in the gym.

[–]moosevice_dot_com 51ポイント52ポイント  (14子コメント)

I'm not pissed about women's true nature. I'm pissed about being lied to for so many years and wasting time chasing and pedestaling females. So much drama could have been avoided in my life due to this lie. Banging my head on the wall thinking what's wrong with me.

I don't condone public killing sprees but I UNDERSTAND.

[–]rtron36 48ポイント49ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't condone public killing sprees but I UNDERSTAND.

Ha, reminds me of Chris Rock talking about OJ Simpson killing his wife:

So you gotta look at OJ's situation. He's paying $25,000 a month in alimony, got another man driving around in his car and fucking his wife in a house he's still paying the mortgage on. Now I'm not saying he should have killed her... but I understand.

[–]mugatucrazypills 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

thought about this right away

[–]Enjoyitbeforeitsover 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know what, I know about this OJ thing, but never even bothered to look up wth the whole murder thing was about. TIL

[–]Smooovies 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm going back to my school's reunion in a week, and looking at the website and the culture, it literally looks like a schoolyard after TRP. I went to a very good school, and if you're familiar with the culture, it's very Alpha-centric. Imagine being a slightly overweight simp beta going to a school like that. It was literally hell. In one year, after TRP, everything in life is a joke now. Yeah, that time sucked, but damn if swallowing the pill doesn't fix it.

[–]anangryterrorist 10ポイント11ポイント  (8子コメント)

but damn if swallowing the pill doesn't fix it

For me, the problems are still there; I still hate myself, life still kinda sucks, and I'm still not getting laid, but at least I'm okay with it all.

[–]CumForJesus 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

Getting laid doesn't change it. To me at least. I still find everything empty and meaningless. It's hard to self improve as advised here when you think it's pointless

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    [–]anangryterrorist 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Because we actually want to find a loyal woman, but if AWALT, that means no loyal woman exists, not without a ridiculous amount of time, effort, and/or money, and even then there is still the chance that she will go and fuck some horny fuck on the side.

    [–]grubek -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Listen to your basuc instincs. Life is meaningless otherwise.

    [–]CumForJesus 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Basic instinct = FUCK WOMEN CUMFORJESUS fuck fuck fuck more

    That's all there is to it. I live to fuck, that's the only thing that I want

    [–]grubek 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Then start working for it. Once you have it your desires will change. But you need to go through it to see more clearly. Always listen to your gut.

    [–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 28ポイント29ポイント  (13子コメント)

    There is one common thread that is so painfully and deafeningly common among all of these beta male mass shooters:

    They all grew up with absentee fathers.

    Yes, Elliot Rodger's parents were still married, but one of the first things to come out of that story was that his father was almost never involved in Elliot's upbringing and spent most of his time wrapped up in his Hollywood career.

    [–]Endorsed Contributortheultmatecad 19ポイント20ポイント  (12子コメント)

    Did not know this because the press would never make the connection that boys need a strong father in their life.

    [–]The_Titleist 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Its not that they can't make those connections, its because they won't. Strong male leadership is currently taboo and would never fit their narratives.

    [–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 10ポイント11ポイント  (9子コメント)

    I started looking into this shit starting with the Virginia Tech shooting. Even that little Asian Omega had a father who toiled broke in a self-owned bookstore all day and gave his kid almost no attention, left to be raised by his "most mature teenager in the house" mother.

    And this trend continues through every American school shooting, and if you want to take it internationally, I'm willing to bet this trend is what's really behind all of the guys flocking to join ISIS from all over the world.

    I know it sounds ridiculous at first, but when you think about it, it isn't the captain of the lacrosse team who's drowning in pussy on a full ride athletic scholarship who would be attracted to leaving his lifestyle to go shoot haajis in the desert in the Middle East.

    No, it's gonna be the dispossessed, the beta boys of the world who get lured in with promises of glory, wealth, and Arab sex slaves.

    [–]Endorsed Contributortheultmatecad 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Im gonna read my boy a story tonight after dinner. Might even have a catch with him in the yard if there is time

    [–]cdtCPTret 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Teach him how to shoot, too

    [–]trpfieldreport 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Disenfranchised, unwanted, invisible betas can and will resort to crazy shit just to feel like they've made an impact.

    The Oregon shooter wrote a blog about the Roanoke shooter talking about how a man who nobody knew was now on the lips of everybody.

    It's no wonder he decided to go out in a similar way. Nobody knew him, cared about him and certainly no woman loved him.

    So he decided fuck the world and everyone who denied me, I'm going to get the last laugh.

    [–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I just posted a dissertation discussing this in detail, and my thoughts on how these boys are manufactured.

    [–]exponent7 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There is a reason why so many young kids join gangs. The fathers are absent or in the gangs, sometimes its even the mothers who are absent and or in the gang. Imagine being a young boy or girl without your mother or father and your only parent is in a gang?

    [–]GATF 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I'm writing my thesis on radicalisation and I advocate that the reason you don't see school shootings in my nation, compared to the USA, is partly because of strict gun control and partly because we don't have a culture that promotes the cult of celebrity, elevating fame as a possibility for every child adolescent. Unfortunately the latter is becoming more invasive in our lives. But we don't have school shootings... We have teenagers and young adults joining conflicts in Iraq and Syria.

    [–]TRP VanguardJP_Whoregan 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I don't think strict gun control will solve the problem. People who wanna kill a bunch of people will find a way. Shootings are only common in America because guns are common, but take the guns away, and people will just switch to making homemade bombs out of household items. Al Queda is pretty good at it.

    [–]GATF 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's exactly my point. It takes someone to pull the trigger of an inanimate object. Take away the inanimate object. Someone will pull the trigger in a different way... maybe a flight to Turkey so they can smuggle their way into Syria to join ISIL. People always find a way. We don't have school murderers, we have junior jihadists.

    [–]Endorsed ContributorRS73 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    and if you want to take it internationally, I'm willing to bet this trend is what's really behind all of the guys flocking to join ISIS from all over the world.

    Years ago, just after 9/11, I knew an Indian guy who had known or gone to school with a few Al Qaeda recruits. That is EXACTLY what he said at the time about those guys and this was 13 to 14 years ago. He said the guys getting all excited about Al Qaeda rule and sharia law and killing "infidels" were warped, inept, pussy-starved losers. Society's rejects.

    Now, I don't think everyone having trouble with women or everyone who's not rich and musclebound is a potential maniac on a hair trigger to start mass murdering people. If that were true, the US and many other nations would be in total chaos. But the frustrated chumps who turn their rage on the public are a real thing.

    By the way, it's interesting that some a-holes were saying after 9/11 that we have to understand "why they hate us" but they would never ask that question about these mass shooting wackos.

    [–]1AfterC 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Great point. You'll never hear it because Women and Gays are Wonderful.(TM)

    Nuclear family > Two parent family, same sex > Single Father > Single Mother

    [–]BlackPhoenix01 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Quite unfortunately, the Politically Correct elite is going to find a link between the killer and this subreddit. Just as they did Elliot Rodger.

    But you know what? It's just like the OP says, TRP actually prevents things like this from happening. I do recall reading Neil Strauss' 'The Game' and mentioned that he and his pick-up coaches are doing the world a service by lowering the crime rate by guiding rAFCs down the straight path.

    But it just seems that no one is interested in actually solving the problem. When people mentioned Isla Vista, they only said 'nerdy male virgins are terrible, and they're entitled as fuck' and there is an element of truth to that. But all the commentators just have no credible solution to the problem.

    This is what frustrated me about the mainstream media and perhaps the feminised commentary. People just talk around the issue and keep talking, but nothing comes up to solve the issue. There's no accountability, no responsibility, no action. Just people waxing political just to make themselves feel better

    Also, the guy specifically targeted Christians, but why is nobody talking about that?

    [–]1AfterC 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Our half black shooter friend had Islamic leanings, looks into social media profiles revealed.

    No surprise that's not mentioned. The common American cannot criticize Islam without being called Islamophobic, despite the fact their government is bombing the most fervent of Muslims to smithereens.

    [–]holytrpbatman 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    We live in an age where talking trumps action. As long as people get to hear their own voices, solutions are never presented. Only more talking.

    [–]tquotient 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah, he killed Christians. That should be brought to the spotlight.

    Seriously though, anyone who thinks that executing Christians will scare them away from their faith clearly doesn't understand why the cross is their symbol.

    [–]Playboy_Manbaby 9ポイント10ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Good post but i wouldn't call the shooting anything close to an expression of masculine power, terrible or otherwise. The kid was a complete coward, beta or not. Proof of this was the fact that he panicked and couldn't kill the vet who charged him. The veterans actions however- were the epitome of masculinity.

    [–]xxmindtrickxx 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

    A decent amount of RP circlejerk in this thread, but this is more on the head. This guy was less than a BP he was a narcissistic piece of garbage. Whose problems extend far beyond the BP world.

    [–]Playboy_Manbaby 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    My thoughts exactly, i agree with the post in everything else though. This kid IS a bi-product of society, and the way people raise their children. Maybe this kid would have been a narcissist either way, but a childhood with his family certainly pushed him deeper into narcissism, he was probably told all his life how he was special and that the world owed him. And then his father came out trying to say guns were responsible - his way of shifting blame from his own parenting.

    [–]Enjoyitbeforeitsover 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well then what's up with this "mental health" bullshit. I think you guys are probably right. That fucker was just not able to cope about not being able to get women. His reaction was also based on not having a good grip about how to deal with shit life throws at you. So in other words he did the most beta thing ever, he took it out on others rather than worked to fix himself. Coward indeed but I blame whomever raised him. Whoever I could be fucking wrong about all of this but this whole thread really points to this likelihood. Comment and provide some constructive criticism if you please. (Someone also mentioned the narcisstic pussy loser thing and I would also consider that option too)

    [–]Playboy_Manbaby 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Well, i think mental health was one of the key problems, he was a weak willed narcissist. Likely largely due to his parenting but i reclon he must have been a predisposed to it from birth. Anyway, my point is, there is a vast range of contributing factors to cases like this, and gun control is a non issue with regards to this situation.

    [–]identifiedlogo 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think that is the point of OP. There is no mention of masculine power, this was a revenge for everything the shooter thinks society has done to him, no gf, no love from family/friends, the perceived hate from girls etc. Instead of learning game and focusing on and improving himself, he decided to kill. Masculinity has no place in anything that happened.

    [–]H42 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What can we do?

    We can google news for "roseburg girlfriend" and add our input to the news articles' comments sections. Just don't use an account that doxxs you. Something like this is good:

    Why did this young man not have a girlfriend? The reason why is: the "girlfriend" skill is not taught to young men by their single-mother-parent, or anyone else. Who should teach young men what they need to know to successfully acquire girlfriends? Should these teachers be women, or even feminists? No. Young men need to be taught this skill by men who know how to be successful with women. Would you ask a fish how to catch fish? No, you ask a fisherman.

    Guys, Google "The Red Pill" if you really want to learn how to get a girlfriend. The 1st result is a reddit forum. That is what you need to do, instead of shooting up classrooms with your frustrations

    [–]justtookit 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    want to learn how to get a girlfriend

    Remember your bluepill days. Such a sentence doesn't even make sense to these boys.

    They don't know that you can learn 'how to get a girlfriend'. What's more, that smacks remotely of predatory language, and will be rejected by their indoctrination. Can't be aggressive towards women!

    No, that information couldn't possibly exist, and if it did, perish the thought, they certainly wouldn't want to learn it!

    No one but us is really making the connection between the masculinity crisis and the shootings. These boys might not even tie any of their problems to what they are feeling, as they have been taught to repress and ignore their sexuality.

    No, there needs to be a different way to describe the red pill in this context. Perhaps something about becoming the person you want to be, a person you look up to. But they're missing that archetype, too.

    [–]H42 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You raise some good points. The indoctrination and propaganda CAN BE broken. All that is needed is a hundred guys posting links to TRP info. Posting consistantly in response to relevant news articles in those comments sections.

    Soon doubts will form, cracks in the wall will develop, and a social revelation will emerge.

    This will happen solely because truth cannot be denied and our TRP brothers deal in truths.

    [–]Piroko 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What can we do? Vote.

    "NAY! Further in, we'll cut across the faster waters!"

    We do not have the societal deltaV available to completely reverse the damage progressivism has done to society. We only have enough to maybe speed it up, bring the collapse about sooner and then move on. Attempting to fix it working within the system, as mensrights does, simply draws out the inevitable.

    The whole thing will have to collapse and be remade.

    [–]tquotient 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Accelerationism. Communists talk about engaging in capitalism so it advances to the point of its own natural crisis. Your strategy sounds similar and already has an apt name.

    [–]cdtCPTret 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Reminds me of how Karl Marx opposed improving working conditions and wages because it would appease the workers and quell revolution. Easy to make fun of. Revolution always sounds great until you realize that instead of ending up with a fun post-apocalypse adventure you live in the equivalent of Mexico or Yemen.

    [–]relationshipdownvote 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

    This isn't a new thing. It's actually a refreshing change from the sadistic psychosexual serial killers we saw in past decades.

    [–]mugatucrazypills 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    again I'm going to Plug a book here:

    check out Peter Vronsky's books on "Female Serial Killers"

    a great read

    [–]cdtCPTret 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sounds interesting. You should post a little about it. Don't think anyone's gonna pick it up just because a stranger on reddit thought it was interesting and marginally relevant. Seriously, let's hear your thoughts.

    [–]permashred -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Female Serial Killers

    I think you mean wives... they make men dead to the world

    [–]tquotient 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Only if you keep up that defeatist attitude.

    [–]nixon007 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I used to fantasize about mass killings up until 19 years of age when i discovered the mystery method and the way of the superior man. Before i used to dream about ar-15 and blasting all students and teachers. Looking back, it was riduculous, i now have my own business and do boxing. I have a son and i have had dozens of girls to fuck. Redpill saved my life!

    [–]bl33dingr3d 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    If you take a look through other recent mass murderers, especially ones at colleges and workplaces, they are typically caused by male sexual angst clashing against blue pill conditioning.

    I think saying these are significant contributing factors would be more accurate. Otherwise there'd be wayyyy more mass shootings because you can't throw a rock without hitting an emasculated, sexually frustrated beta in his 20s. It seems like this collision of BP values, no father figure, and sexual frustration with reality could be the catalyst for an unstable omega to go postal but not the direct causation.

    [–]2FatStig 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No kidding. All the younger guys I work with creep me out. They make me uncomfortable because they are all so afraid of everything (probably me too). I can see why they don't get laid.

    [–]bl33dingr3d 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Office environment? Yeah man, it's ridiculous how emasculation has become the norm. Alpha behavior is shamed as "douchey", when it is just called being comfortable with masculinity. I'm assuming office environment because they are the worse. I can't do offices anymore, I'm trying to get the hell out and into a career where I can not censor my language and behavior out of fear of HR.

    [–]Davidkpa 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I didn't fit in, in college. Was something of a social outcast. But I still got laid regularly. I built a carpet cleaning business, got my insurance license, got into competitive billards, learned to play cards, got into competitive shooting, went to the gym like an animal, played rugby and did a bunch else.

    If the fact that people don't welcome you with open arms into their circle is stopping you. That makes you a pussy. Tech Startups are my latest break into. I go to the meetups and social events. I demonstrate my superior intelligence and skill. And am now building tech teams to launch products with and get investors. Took me two months of showing up, showing I was better and smarter than the dweeb developers, and now I'm something of a king maker and I'm expanding my grasp one city at a time.

    Betas can't see beyond the linear or grasp that which is not right in front of them. Life being unfair is an insurmountable hurdle for them and it's pathetic. I encounter an obstacle I either tunnel under it, walk around the side, or break out the figurative dynamite.

    This pathetic shit wanted to whine like a little bitch and blame everyone but himself. He needed to hit the gym, take up a sport, join a hobbyist group, and do charity to meet people. I loved donating my time at pet rescue shelters. I slay a lot of pussy showing women pics of me and the cats and dogs and talking about how I was training them.

    [–]Keninishna 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Instead of the normal circumcision they will start clipping the balls off too. No testosterone no more male rage.

    [–]beachbloke[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sadly it wouldn't even surprise me if they started doing that to ADHD boys in high school as some kind of BS anxiety treatment.

    [–]StonedJaguar 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    That is my theory for a lot of guys that kill. If they were getting some, they probably would not kill people.

    [–]xxmindtrickxx 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    No they'd just kill their GFs after they get broken up with for being so spineless or freakishly controlling.

    [–]StonedJaguar 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Would they though? Maybe a girl could normalize a radical guy, or be a light that changes him. I mean these guys are already weird,so if a girl is into him chances are her expectations are going to stay the same. But who really knows.

    [–]1popthatpill 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    In history, the lowest value men have always been the ones murdering people senselessly. ... He was raised by a single mom, a textbook modern woman's omega son.

    If you take a look through other recent mass murderers, especially ones at colleges and workplaces, they are typically caused by male sexual angst clashing against blue pill conditioning. In those cases, the decision to commit the atrocity of murder is the boil over of bottled-up masculine energy. For the men who commit these crimes, years of repressing true emotions, including anger, explode into a terrible expression of masculine power.

    ♫ I got an angry soul / I got a broken home / I got no self-control ... ♪

    Sadly, society's answer to the increase in mass murders will be to lock down things even further with security and emasculation in our learning facilities and workplaces.

    Exactly, because they're not getting the problem. The problem is very simple: male sexual inequality. Until this problem is solved, the killings will continue. I say this because I keep reading this bullshit that beats around the bush, you know those articles that go something like "we need to stop persecuting masculinity" or some BS like that? Let's just cut the crap: 80/20 is the problem.

    RP isn't a solution, either: it's a coping mechanism or adaptive counter-strategy.

    The solution is to un-tilt the playing field. Women already have the playing field tilted in their direction because of the combination of male other-group preference (men prefer women) and female own-group preference (women prefer women), which combine to form the women-are-wonderful effect. And yet on top of that, society keeps tilting the field further and further toward females.

    The reason why of course is because of the combined numbers of "team woman" (ie. women voting/supporting their own interests and voting against/opposing men's interests), plus "team daughter" (men who support their daughter's interests, no matter what the effect on men), plus "team mangina" (brownnosing betas and omegas who support women's interests over their own).

    Fuck, we'd be lucky to have 15% of the population (say, 30% of men) on our side after you take team woman/daughter/mangina out.

    [–]GRL_PM_ME_UR_FANTASY 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Let's just cut the crap: 80/20 is the problem.

    You sound like a feminist when you say this. Like the fat women who complain that guys want hot girls with a good waist to hip ratio.

    How can something inherently natural be the problem? As we move further towards a surplus economy, there's no going back to a time when most men can lock up a girl just by economically providing.

    There is no way to "fix" this, nor do I think it should be fixed. You can't fix female nature, and it's bitter and pathetic for you to think that's the solution, just like it's bitter and pathetic for a fat woman to complain about "society" rather than admitting she's unfuckable.

    [–]blackhawks93 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Guys with no sexual outlet can be a danger to society. That's why St. Augustine of all people said that prostitution is a social need. There is no legal way to get sex if your game is shit and you don't look good or are mental because of other reasons. I think sexual frustration was his biggest problem.

    [–]beachbloke[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You know what, that's a great idea. I had some ideas about what to do, but this is a much more succinct way of putting a damper on these killings. Legalized prostitution...

    However, even the people who would benefit from it most would largely be against it. These omegas probably wouldn't go to a prostitute even if it were legal.

    [–]blackhawks93 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What people say in public is not what they would do if they are desperate 20+ virgins. I think Freud said it best that sex is a human NEED and without it you can become psychologically messed up. It's sad that our society is so puritanical and acts like sex isn't necessary and makes fun of people who complain that they don't have a sex life.

    [–]ARedSchoolofThought 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    When this story broke I thought the same thing, but no one cares about the disposable male, nothing will change to give help to those who need it. Instead they use this to tragedy to push a gun control narrative and internet censorship. Exploiting tragedy to restrict freedoms and replace them with safety is becoming quite the norm since 9/11.

    [–]RPthrowaway123 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I can understand the anxiety that a lot of people have about guns, but banning them is treating the symptom and not the actual problem. We have created a society that grinds men underfoot, giving them no way (that they can see) to be accepted. In light of this, is it even a shock that such men would lash out at those around them? Sadly, their predicament isn't even being caused by the people they lash out at - the victims are just as bound by this crushing social system as their angry attacker, but they are in a better position in it.

    I think some things should probably be done with guns - background checks, no current mental health issues, ect - but what really must be done is to treat the source of the problem. Why do these young men feel so hurt, helpless, and betrayed? When people start asking that question, then we might finally see things get better. Until then I fear that situations like this will only continue to occur as frustrated, helpless individuals unleash their anger at the system that binds them.

    [–]beachbloke[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I am against gun control for one succinct reason: guns are power that is in the hands of the individual.

    We as a citizens have the ability to vote to exercise our power, but voting once per year is not liquid enough to deal with issues that happen on a daily basis. Military and police are liquid proxies of our power to vote, but they place our individual power in the hands of others. As the founding fathers argued, guns have no proxy; there is no dilution of an individual's will. Because of this, they are the only tool the many can use to overcome the few.

    I do not believe the US government is oppressive, but I believe gun control leads towards that.

    Source: licensed concealed carry NRA member

    [–]enkae7317 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    RSD Tyler puts it best: all your problems can be solved by getting laid.

    Don't take it literally but it does make sense after a while.

    [–]TX_Man_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It certainly doesn't help that these guys are constantly being told about their "male privilege", that their problems are invalid and that their human desires don't matter.

    The SJWs and their philosophy is one of the most damaging philosophies that has ever existed.

    [–]tio1w 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    80% of men will always be in the bottom 80th percentile.

    Only the top 20% (if that) matter and even that is tremendously volatile. Something out of their control and bam, all value lost. Instantly and without a second chance.

    Unlike women men hold no intrinsic value and society denies them even the most basic dignity needed to just keep them quiet and playing along.

    There is no solution.

    Guns are just an equalizer, without guns it will be knifes. This is what already happens in China with a huge number of male surpluses, they just lash out "randomly" and butcher shit up. Curiously these news almost never reach the west.

    [–]ShitfacedBatman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think the most unstable guys on the planet are cuckold fetish types. (Gross.) I always think of that guy in the Wolf of Wallstreet movie who killed himself after marrying his "favorite slut." I agree, blue pill men are head cases. As pro-gun as most of us here would like to be, giving guns to blue pillers isn't a good idea. Most blue pill types are anti-gun, which is probably good for them on a personal level. But now and again, some omega who can't pay a woman to give him attention is going to go off the deep end, acquire a shit-ton of guns and go nuts.

    I don't think there's jack shit we can do except preach the good word to guys you know and shame "gender studies" classes and things that institutionalize backwards thinking, feminism, and misandry.

    Also, look around and get good at reading people. You should be able to tell who's blue pill and red pill at a bar. It's in the eyes and in their posture. If some guy doesn't look right to you, you're not obligated to stick around to see what happens.

    If you're in Southern California, "bros" are more likely to have their head screwed on straight compared to "hipsters." Though results may vary.

    [–]EnterPseudonym 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Women are a side issue for this crazy. The showed a portion of one of his dating profiles, where he stated that he was against organized religions. It also showed, but was never pointed out that he was a "member" of The Left Handed Path. A quick google search will show you that it's related to Satanism. When have you ever met a well adjusted person who was also a Satanist?

    He was just batshit insane and you can't blame women for that. At the end of the day he is responsible for his actions and choices just like you are. He chose to let women get to him like that if it was indeed women that drove him off the deep end.

    [–]beachbloke[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes he is responsible for his actions, but what is the underlying trend between all these killers? Single moms, narcissism, and no social skills. Red pill is the cure to that

    [–]BRENDORVEGAS 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    That kid single-handedly brought down the Pepe market.

    [–]anangryterrorist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Good, we might get him back.

    [–]yaardi 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Too bad I invested all my savings into Pepe stocks the day before.

    [–]watch_ping 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nah, he took him away from tumbler and the like.

    [–]stepoutothecarplzsir 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    terrible expression of masculine power.

    This phrasing is a perfect example of the problem. It wasn't a terrible expression of masculine power...it was a narcissistic nerd with a gun. He thought what he was doing was a terrible expression of masculine power as well, and that's why he did it. If he had seen himself for what he really was, a fucking loser, he might have made some changes. The problem here isn't women or bluepill or asbent fathers, its narcissistic pussies who are isolated enough to build a fantasy world where its them versus all the mean oppressive women.

    Rather than trying to push women down and lift men up, become strong enough to confront things as they are. Changing the world to make it easier on themselves is what women and pussies do, not men. Don't ask for lighter loads, ask for stronger backs.

    [–]2FatStig 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Almost all were raised without a father. Most women, and especially single mothers are more narcissistic than men.

    [–]stepoutothecarplzsir 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No, single mothers aren't narcissistic. They just make it easier for narcissism to grow in their sons, because they don't have the capacity to be mean enough to the kid to expose him to reality. For example, if a kid comes home whining because the girls at school were mean again, instead of telling the kid he needs to stop playing video games and jerking off and get a life, she will console him by agreeing that the girls are mean, and reassuring him that he is perfect in every way. This is the role of a mother, and how women relate to one another.

    So, he gets told he's special and perfect, and everyone else is wrong, and he has no dad to counterbalance this. The solution isn't to blame the mom, or complain about not having dads. The solution is to man the fuck up and come to terms with reality. If you want to help these dude's, they need to hear the truth. They need to know they suck and they need to improve. They don't need a fucking single mom or absent dad scapegoat to blame shit on. What does that accomplish?

    [–]fullhalf 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ok dumbass, here's the rub. they did it because of anti depressants that made them homicidal. it's not because they were beta. it just so happens that depressed guys are also beta. being depressed is like the reciprocal of alpha to begin with. redpill should be smarter than this.

    [–]1Mikesapien -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Your analysis is pretty on point, but missing some details.

    male sexual angst clashing against blue pill conditioning

    This is part of the problem. Mass shootings are caused by a wide range of factors, which undoubtedly include this, but let's not also overlook obvious deficiencies in mental health, total social isolation (even from male friends), lax gun laws, substance abuse, religious zealotry, the gradual realization that the American dream is a fantasy and that upwards mobility is almost mythical, and –most importantly– an impulse for Herostratic fame.

    Anyone who has cause to lash out against society can commit mass shootings, and has. It's not just pathetic omegas and frustrated betas who can't get laid.

    [–]hasen9 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Gun control is an issue. You can never create a society where guns are easily available but no one will be crazy enough to use them to shoot random people in a bout of anger.

    If these guys were in Japan, the worse they could do is commit suicide, or maybe join a Yakuza group and start shooting porn movies or working at a hostess club.