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[–]Ontrevant -10ポイント-9ポイント  (19子コメント)

What is with everyone needing to know what the community (most likely under 5% of players) thinks is 'best'?

What happened to people actually playing and learning what works for them?

[–]BookMeNot 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

He wants others' opinions, nothing wrong with that. Some characters and builds for said characters are harder to figure out than most.

[–]iamanidiotbitch 1ポイント2ポイント  (10子コメント)

youre absolutely right, in fact we would all appreciate it a lot if you played the game yourself rather than coming here to discuss it on the world wide web ever again

[–]TheLonelyPotato666 -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I agree. Tier lists are complete bullshit too.

EDIT: I should have worded that differently. I don't like tier lists and I feel like people rely to much on them.

[–]foxesOSGN 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Dude, yes! I DEFINITELY agree. Ranking things such as characters, abilities or upgrades in a videogame in terms of the community's understanding of which is better or worse is sooooo retarded. I hate when devs look at that shit and are like "Oh, some of these characters are completely overpowered and beat all the rest of them? God, maybe we should balance our game based on what the playerbase thinks!" Ugh, am I right? Who even wants to give game developers and newer players even the slightest of ideas that one mutation is better, or more consistently reliable, or less situational, than another mutation. Even thinking about it myself gives me the heeby jeebies. The other day I was like, "Huh, I really don't take Extra Feet that often. Maybe the more actively noticable mutations tend to give me more consistently improved results, either because of some objective comparability, or because of my own personal bias." God, when I realized what I was doing, I almost puked!

[–]TheLonelyPotato666 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're completely exagerating. I think it's stupid when I see a post about someone saying 'Weapon X is actually good. I never tried it because people said it was bad'. Just try it. And tier lists are also affected by what other people say. For example, a lot of people never try Confiscate and only ever take Gun Warrant. They don't know how good Confiscate is, but they like GW, so they say it's the better Ultra. Devs see what is OP by the daily scores and by watching people like DevilAzite play.

  I just think tier lists and meta are not always right and they make people not try certain weapons or mutations. I don't like that.

[–]foxesOSGN 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Tier lists are not always right. "Meta" is always right because it is an aggregate of relevant facts and so, too, are legitimate tier lists. Most tier lists for most games are composed entirely of statistics and not one bit from opinions. People should try everything whether they are in meta or high on the tier list or not, and I agree with you. My response to what you meant may have been exaggerated, but my response to what you said was not. You not only agreed with what Ontrevant originally said, which was condescending, spiteful and entirely statistical hyperbole, but you went on to say that Tier lists are "complete bullshit." Complete bullshit being that they are entirely bullshitted by people, that they are composed not at all of facts, that they are not helpful to anyone whatsoever, etc. "Complete" Bullshit. To that, I like to think, I did not exaggerate.