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[–]Ontrevant -10ポイント-9ポイント-8ポイント 8時間前 (19子コメント)
What is with everyone needing to know what the community (most likely under 5% of players) thinks is 'best'?
What happened to people actually playing and learning what works for them?
[–]BookMeNot 11ポイント12ポイント13ポイント 7時間前 (3子コメント)
He wants others' opinions, nothing wrong with that. Some characters and builds for said characters are harder to figure out than most.
[+]Ontrevant スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16ポイント-15ポイント-14ポイント 7時間前 (2子コメント)
Everything has to have 'meta' now. Let's face it. Gamers have gotten lazy.
"Someone else figure out what works for you, then tell me what it is. I'll then go ahead an act like this setup is law or else."
[–]Sylverski 7ポイント8ポイント9ポイント 6時間前 (1子コメント)
"Are there any common, really good strategies I may have overlooked for Horror?"
"Hey I usually pick Ultra A\B but what is usually considered the stronger option?"
"Are there any intricacies I've probably completely looked over for this specific character?"
Hey look I can put words in people's mouths too!
Also if you think there wasn't a meta a couple of years ago you're deluding yourself. All a meta is, is the concept of what is more or less powerful.
[–]Ch4lie 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 6時間前 (0子コメント)
Well said my friend
[–]iamanidiotbitch 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間前 (10子コメント)
youre absolutely right, in fact we would all appreciate it a lot if you played the game yourself rather than coming here to discuss it on the world wide web ever again
[+]Ontrevant スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8ポイント-7ポイント-6ポイント 5時間前 (9子コメント)
Aww. I'm sorry if I hurt your widdle feewings by poking at the paper thin skin you have. Want a trophy for participating?
Sorry I don't need 'current meta' and 'tier lists' to define how to play anything. I still know how to think for myself. <3
[–]foxesOSGN 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 4時間前 (8子コメント)
you're right, comparing solid metrics and opinions from widespread communities is so droll. I prefer to think not only FOR myself, but BY myself, because the input and thought processes from anyone else--ESPECIALLY when brought together to form one more-well-informed whole which I can use to better not only my understanding but the understanding of others--is fucking stupid, and reserved for sheeple.
[–]Ontrevant -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 3時間前 (7子コメント)
What you're describing 'meta' (who coined such a goofy buzzword btw?) When it started. What it means now is: What do a bunch of popular youtubers/popular forum posters say is good and what's bad?
[–]foxesOSGN 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間前 (6子コメント)
no actually, what I am describing is meta--short for metagame, which is not a buzzword, but actually the correct way to discuss such a matter considering the way "meta" is used as a prefix in english--and what you are describing is Meta, As Explained By A Judgemental Man Who Thinks Very Little Of Many Other People. Seriously dude, calm down a bit. You're just being really inciteful with no productivity.
[–]Ontrevant -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 3時間前 (3子コメント)
Glad to see you busted out a thesaurus to type out a Yale class response, lol. Who's worked up? It seems to me you don't pay attention to the current trend of - ahem - metagaming. Because it's still a rather new term that is completely skewed from its original intention.
Seems like what you're describing is called strategies.
[–]foxesOSGN 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (2子コメント)
hahahaha, nice one, spite me for having a good vocabulary, sweet. Whatever man, if you wanna stay mad, that's on you. I just think it'd be a little exhausting.
[–]Ontrevant 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (1子コメント)
Oh yes. I'm just seething with animosity towards your position in this vocabulary-based altercation.
Huh. I know fancy words too! Yay! I do however find it rather humorous you keep stating how I'm angry. I'm actually in a rather jovial mood and had forgot about this conversation until just now. :P
[–]foxesOSGN 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Sure, I'd believe you aren't angry, but you're responding like you are. Every one of your responses is just oozing with condescension, and it gives off the vibe that you're mad about something. But alright, if you're not you're not, but there's really no reason for your constant animosity. And that, I don't think you can deny. You're saying everything in a really conflict-bent way. If you wanna just talk, I'm happy to have a calm talk about metagame, just stop yelling about it, lol
[–]Ontrevant -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 3時間前 (1子コメント)
I'll reply to this one with the actual discussion--uh, strategies are like, individual things that can stem up from how the game works. Like, you can have a strategy of making sure you focus more on dodging than shooting, and looking for particular weapons because you like them better. For one, I like bullet weapons on Fish, and then I like to get Recycle Gland, just because I feel having a spray weapon and a roll is nice for me, personally. That's a strategy. The metagame would be more to say that, like, many Fishes take bullet weapons because his active and passive are particularly good with high-shots per second weapons that consume a lot of ammo, particularly bullet weapons with recycle gland, especially after you get Gun Warrant and can shoot even more and regain ammo without spending any. It helps him stay very well topped off. So, the metagame is sort of the reasoning around a strategy, and the combination-whole of what you get when you combine alllllll the strategies of the game and how they compare to one another. That's what a metagame is, it's the comparative whole of all of the parts of theory that surround the game.
[–]TheLonelyPotato666 -2ポイント-1ポイント0ポイント 5時間前* (3子コメント)
I agree. Tier lists are complete bullshit too.
EDIT: I should have worded that differently. I don't like tier lists and I feel like people rely to much on them.
[–]foxesOSGN 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 4時間前 (2子コメント)
Dude, yes! I DEFINITELY agree. Ranking things such as characters, abilities or upgrades in a videogame in terms of the community's understanding of which is better or worse is sooooo retarded. I hate when devs look at that shit and are like "Oh, some of these characters are completely overpowered and beat all the rest of them? God, maybe we should balance our game based on what the playerbase thinks!" Ugh, am I right? Who even wants to give game developers and newer players even the slightest of ideas that one mutation is better, or more consistently reliable, or less situational, than another mutation. Even thinking about it myself gives me the heeby jeebies. The other day I was like, "Huh, I really don't take Extra Feet that often. Maybe the more actively noticable mutations tend to give me more consistently improved results, either because of some objective comparability, or because of my own personal bias." God, when I realized what I was doing, I almost puked!
[–]TheLonelyPotato666 -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間前 (1子コメント)
You're completely exagerating. I think it's stupid when I see a post about someone saying 'Weapon X is actually good. I never tried it because people said it was bad'. Just try it. And tier lists are also affected by what other people say. For example, a lot of people never try Confiscate and only ever take Gun Warrant. They don't know how good Confiscate is, but they like GW, so they say it's the better Ultra. Devs see what is OP by the daily scores and by watching people like DevilAzite play.
I just think tier lists and meta are not always right and they make people not try certain weapons or mutations. I don't like that.
[–]foxesOSGN 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 1時間前 (0子コメント)
Tier lists are not always right. "Meta" is always right because it is an aggregate of relevant facts and so, too, are legitimate tier lists. Most tier lists for most games are composed entirely of statistics and not one bit from opinions. People should try everything whether they are in meta or high on the tier list or not, and I agree with you. My response to what you meant may have been exaggerated, but my response to what you said was not. You not only agreed with what Ontrevant originally said, which was condescending, spiteful and entirely statistical hyperbole, but you went on to say that Tier lists are "complete bullshit." Complete bullshit being that they are entirely bullshitted by people, that they are composed not at all of facts, that they are not helpful to anyone whatsoever, etc. "Complete" Bullshit. To that, I like to think, I did not exaggerate.
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